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"Nigel Perry" <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:10******** ******@isc.org. ..
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.std.csharp

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
the worldwide unmoderated newsgroup comp.std.csharp . This is not
a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural
details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.std.csharp Discussions on the ECMA/ISO Common Language.

RATIONALE: comp.std.csharp

There are no newsgroups to discuss the ECMA/ISO Standards for C#.
There are multiple implementations of this standard; including the
Microsoft product, Mono, Rotor and DotGNU; and a forum for the
discussion of the Standard and possible future directions would be of
benefit to the community. The ECMA Technical Groups for C# and CLI
are proposing this newsgroup and will monitor the postings.

CHARTER: comp.std.csharp

The purpose of this newsgroup shall be to establish and maintain a
forum for the open discussion of issues related to the ECMA/ISO C#
Standard. Topics may include but are not limted to matters such as the
following:
- Meaning of the Standard
- Implementation of the Standard
- Possible errors/omissions in the Standard
- Possible future directions of the Standard

ECMA and ISO have formal procedures for input to, and reporting errors in,
Standards. This group will in no way replace those procedures. The group
is intended as a forum for the community. However the ECMA Technical
Group for the Standard will monitor and take note of discussions on the
newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.n ewgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.n ewgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.n ewgroups
news.groups

and the following mailing lists:

<do**********@d i.unipi.it>
Subcribe via: do************* *****@di.unipi. it
<do**********@d iscuss.develop. com>
<do*******@disc uss.develop.com >
<do********@dis cuss.develop.co m>

Proponent: Nigel Perry <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)
Proponent: Rex Jaeschke <re*@rexjaeschk e.com>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)

Nov 13 '05 #1
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:04:35 -0700, "Eric Gunnerson"
<er***********@ microsoft.nospa m.com> wrote:
If you would like to see this group created, please reply to this post,
making sure you leave news.groups on the newsgroups line.

"Nigel Perry" <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:10******* *******@isc.org ...
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.std.csharp

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
the worldwide unmoderated newsgroup comp.std.csharp . This is not
a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural
details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.std.csharp Discussions on the ECMA/ISO Common Language.

RATIONALE: comp.std.csharp

There are no newsgroups to discuss the ECMA/ISO Standards for C#.
There are multiple implementations of this standard; including the
Microsoft product, Mono, Rotor and DotGNU; and a forum for the
discussion of the Standard and possible future directions would be of
benefit to the community. The ECMA Technical Groups for C# and CLI
are proposing this newsgroup and will monitor the postings.

CHARTER: comp.std.csharp

The purpose of this newsgroup shall be to establish and maintain a
forum for the open discussion of issues related to the ECMA/ISO C#
Standard. Topics may include but are not limted to matters such as the
following:
- Meaning of the Standard
- Implementation of the Standard
- Possible errors/omissions in the Standard
- Possible future directions of the Standard

ECMA and ISO have formal procedures for input to, and reporting errors in,
Standards. This group will in no way replace those procedures. The group
is intended as a forum for the community. However the ECMA Technical
Group for the Standard will monitor and take note of discussions on the
newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.n ewgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.n ewgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.n ewgroups
news.groups

and the following mailing lists:

<do**********@d i.unipi.it>
Subcribe via: do************* *****@di.unipi. it
<do**********@d iscuss.develop. com>
<do*******@disc uss.develop.com >
<do********@dis cuss.develop.co m>

Proponent: Nigel Perry <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)
Proponent: Rex Jaeschke <re*@rexjaeschk e.com>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)


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Nov 13 '05 #2
Eric,

I think I would like to see that. =)

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"Eric Gunnerson" <er***********@ microsoft.nospa m.com> wrote in message
news:3f******** @news.microsoft .com...
If you would like to see this group created, please reply to this post,
making sure you leave news.groups on the newsgroups line.

"Nigel Perry" <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:10******** ******@isc.org. ..
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.std.csharp

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
the worldwide unmoderated newsgroup comp.std.csharp . This is not
a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural
details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.std.csharp Discussions on the ECMA/ISO Common Language.

RATIONALE: comp.std.csharp

There are no newsgroups to discuss the ECMA/ISO Standards for C#.
There are multiple implementations of this standard; including the
Microsoft product, Mono, Rotor and DotGNU; and a forum for the
discussion of the Standard and possible future directions would be of
benefit to the community. The ECMA Technical Groups for C# and CLI
are proposing this newsgroup and will monitor the postings.

CHARTER: comp.std.csharp

The purpose of this newsgroup shall be to establish and maintain a
forum for the open discussion of issues related to the ECMA/ISO C#
Standard. Topics may include but are not limted to matters such as the
following:
- Meaning of the Standard
- Implementation of the Standard
- Possible errors/omissions in the Standard
- Possible future directions of the Standard

ECMA and ISO have formal procedures for input to, and reporting errors in, Standards. This group will in no way replace those procedures. The group is intended as a forum for the community. However the ECMA Technical
Group for the Standard will monitor and take note of discussions on the
newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.n ewgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.n ewgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.n ewgroups
news.groups

and the following mailing lists:

<do**********@d i.unipi.it>
Subcribe via: do************* *****@di.unipi. it
<do**********@d iscuss.develop. com>
<do*******@disc uss.develop.com >
<do********@dis cuss.develop.co m>

Proponent: Nigel Perry <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)
Proponent: Rex Jaeschke <re*@rexjaeschk e.com>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)


Nov 13 '05 #3

"Eric Gunnerson" <er***********@ microsoft.nospa m.com> wrote in message
news:3f******** @news.microsoft .com...
If you would like to see this group created, please reply to this post,
making sure you leave news.groups on the newsgroups line.

"Nigel Perry" <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:10******** ******@isc.org. ..
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.std.csharp

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of
the worldwide unmoderated newsgroup comp.std.csharp . This is not
a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural
details are below.

Newsgroup line:
comp.std.csharp Discussions on the ECMA/ISO Common Language.

RATIONALE: comp.std.csharp

There are no newsgroups to discuss the ECMA/ISO Standards for C#.
There are multiple implementations of this standard; including the
Microsoft product, Mono, Rotor and DotGNU; and a forum for the
discussion of the Standard and possible future directions would be of
benefit to the community. The ECMA Technical Groups for C# and CLI
are proposing this newsgroup and will monitor the postings.

CHARTER: comp.std.csharp

The purpose of this newsgroup shall be to establish and maintain a
forum for the open discussion of issues related to the ECMA/ISO C#
Standard. Topics may include but are not limted to matters such as the
following:
- Meaning of the Standard
- Implementation of the Standard
- Possible errors/omissions in the Standard
- Possible future directions of the Standard

ECMA and ISO have formal procedures for input to, and reporting errors in, Standards. This group will in no way replace those procedures. The group is intended as a forum for the community. However the ECMA Technical
Group for the Standard will monitor and take note of discussions on the
newsgroup.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups
should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue
for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this
proposal is posted to news.announce.n ewgroups), after which a Call For
Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How
to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these
documents (available in news.announce.n ewgroups) if you have any
questions about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

news.announce.n ewgroups
news.groups

and the following mailing lists:

<do**********@d i.unipi.it>
Subcribe via: do************* *****@di.unipi. it
<do**********@d iscuss.develop. com>
<do*******@disc uss.develop.com >
<do********@dis cuss.develop.co m>

Proponent: Nigel Perry <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)
Proponent: Rex Jaeschke <re*@rexjaeschk e.com>
(on behalf of ECMA TC39 TG2&3)


Nov 13 '05 #4
er...no...this is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.

If you have something to SAY about it, please do so, but don't just respond
to it (with no text).

Oh, and be nice to news.groups and don't top post. They bottom post over
there, unlike here.

--
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"I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my
telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my
telephone."
- Bjarne Stroustrup (originator of C++) [quoted at the 2003
International Conference on Intelligent User Interfaces]

Eric Gunnerson wrote:
If you would like to see this group created, please reply to this
post, making sure you leave news.groups on the newsgroups line.

"Nigel Perry" <ni***@cosc.can terbury.ac.nz> wrote in message
news:10******** ******@isc.org. ..
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
unmoderated group comp.std.csharp

Nov 13 '05 #5
Eric Gunnerson <er***********@ microsoft.nospa m.com> wrote:
If you would like to see this group created, please reply to this post,
making sure you leave news.groups on the newsgroups line.


<snip>

Just to clarify (as we've already had one content-less post) - this is
*not* the vote. Please don't reply to this thread *just* because you
want the group. The vote comes later (and isn't conducted on the group
itself).

This thread is for *discussion* of the proposal, not for head-counting.

--
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http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too
Nov 13 '05 #6
Zane Thomas [.NET/C# MVP] wrote:

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:32:37 +0100, Jon Skeet <sk***@pobox.co m> wrote:
Just to clarify (as we've already had one content-less post) - this is
*not* the vote.


That was far from clear!


This is a dusccusion period, designed to improve the proposal (if any
are needed). A post saying this is a good idea means little, a formal
vote is/might be held later (at the proponent(s) choosen). Discusion
about why you consider the proposed group can be useful as well.
During the RFD period discussion certainly can include campaigning to
gather votes, dabates can be useful and indirectly also improve the
proposed group's charter, justification, chances of passing its vote.

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Nov 13 '05 #7
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:53:08 -0400, Dave <da******@hotma il.com> wrote:
Had you actually read the entire RFD it would have been as clear as crystal.


No doubt - what I read was the "please reply" bit. If it has "please reply if
you have something to say" then I might not have replied.
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Nov 13 '05 #8

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