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VS.NET 2008 beta testers: anyone else getting thousands of   strings on design view change?

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I am using VS.NET 2008 and like it a lot. One of the very few things I don't
like is a bug that seems to spawn literally thousands of   strings, one
after the other, on design view changes. Sometimes I will end up with as
many as 30,000 of them. I have to do a "Replace" which is slower than I'd
like. This is slowing down my work a lot.

This might be related to a commercial control I'm using, or it may just be
VS.NET's indentation getting mangled badly.

Is this happening to anyone else? Is there are workarounds (e.g. turning
off some aspect of automatic code formatting ?)

-KF

Aug 31 '07 #1
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Hello Ken,

Could you describe the sequence which reproduce this bug?
Btw, u can submit your bug there http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=82610&clcid=409
---
WBR,
Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
KFI am using VS.NET 2008 and like it a lot. One of the very few things
KFI don't like is a bug that seems to spawn literally thousands of
KF  strings, one after the other, on design view changes.
KFSometimes I will end up with as many as 30,000 of them. I have to do
KFa "Replace" which is slower than I'd like. This is slowing down my
KFwork a lot.
KF>
KFThis might be related to a commercial control I'm using, or it may
KFjust be VS.NET's indentation getting mangled badly.
KF>
KFIs this happening to anyone else? Is there are workarounds (e.g.
KFturning off some aspect of automatic code formatting ?)
KF>
KF-KF
KF>
Aug 31 '07 #2

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Hi KF,

First, I should thank you for using the Visual Studio 2008 beta product and
share your experience with us. Though it is still under beta, it's quite
important to get feedback from community and consumers, I'm also interested
in the problem you met, would you give some further info on this such as a
complete steps to repro it? I can also have a test in my local test
environment.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--------------------
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:56:51 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <3d*************************@msnews.microsoft.co m>
From: Michael Nemtsev, MVP <ne*****@msn.com>
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2008 beta testers: anyone else getting thousands of
  strings on design view change?
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Hello Ken,

Could you describe the sequence which reproduce this bug?
Btw, u can submit your bug there
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=82610&clcid=409
>

---
WBR,
Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
KFI am using VS.NET 2008 and like it a lot. One of the very few things
KFI don't like is a bug that seems to spawn literally thousands of
KF  strings, one after the other, on design view changes.
KFSometimes I will end up with as many as 30,000 of them. I have to do
KFa "Replace" which is slower than I'd like. This is slowing down my
KFwork a lot.
KF>
KFThis might be related to a commercial control I'm using, or it may
KFjust be VS.NET's indentation getting mangled badly.
KF>
KFIs this happening to anyone else? Is there are workarounds (e.g.
KFturning off some aspect of automatic code formatting ?)
KF>
KF-KF
KF>
>
Aug 31 '07 #3

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It is my pleasure to use VS.NET in beta and it is extremly helpful for my
work that MSFT has made it available now.

The steps are very easy to reproduce:
1) I'm utilizing this control: http://www.amarantin.se/. Note that it may
not be the control's fault; it may be VS.NET's fault or my fault.
2) I'm using a page with MultiView/Views, ListView, and DataPager. Also a
few Telerik controls
3) In the aspx/ascx file, switch between design view and script view.
Bazillions of   characters are spawned quite regularly in the
transition.

I tried switching off code outlining. That did not help.

If you give me a few days, I will be able to come up with a more specific
and isolated bug report by testing the components individually.

In the short term, if someone could suggest a way to set up a key binding or
a macro in VS.NET to clean up this stuff quickly, that would really help me
out. If there is a way to force a faster search-and-destroy for the bad
characters, that would help too.

-KF
"Steven Cheng[MSFT]" <st*****@online.microsoft.comwrote in message
news:Hz****************@TK2MSFTNGHUB02.phx.gbl...
Hi KF,

First, I should thank you for using the Visual Studio 2008 beta product
and
share your experience with us. Though it is still under beta, it's quite
important to get feedback from community and consumers, I'm also
interested
in the problem you met, would you give some further info on this such as a
complete steps to repro it? I can also have a test in my local test
environment.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
--------------------
>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 02:56:51 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <3d*************************@msnews.microsoft.co m>
From: Michael Nemtsev, MVP <ne*****@msn.com>
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2008 beta testers: anyone else getting thousands of
  strings on design view change?
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microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:40551
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Hello Ken,

Could you describe the sequence which reproduce this bug?
Btw, u can submit your bug there
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=82610&clcid=409
>>

---
WBR,
Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
KFI am using VS.NET 2008 and like it a lot. One of the very few things
KFI don't like is a bug that seems to spawn literally thousands of
KF  strings, one after the other, on design view changes.
KFSometimes I will end up with as many as 30,000 of them. I have to do
KFa "Replace" which is slower than I'd like. This is slowing down my
KFwork a lot.
KF>
KFThis might be related to a commercial control I'm using, or it may
KFjust be VS.NET's indentation getting mangled badly.
KF>
KFIs this happening to anyone else? Is there are workarounds (e.g.
KFturning off some aspect of automatic code formatting ?)
KF>
KF-KF
KF>
>>
Aug 31 '07 #4

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Hello Ken,

yep, if only we have these components :)

However, are u using the latest version of your components?

---
WBR,
Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog: http://spaces.live.com/laflour

"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo
KFIt is my pleasure to use VS.NET in beta and it is extremly helpful
KFfor my work that MSFT has made it available now.
KF>
KFThe steps are very easy to reproduce:
KF>
Aug 31 '07 #5

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Yes, using the latest version.

The control can be downloaded and is fully functional: the only limit is
that a watermark appears on the resultant images. If you're interested, you
can test. Or, I will test more carefully in a few days.

It does not sound like this problem is widespread, so this may indeed be a
case of my control interacting badly with VS.NET.

-KF

"Michael Nemtsev"; "MVP" <ne*****@msn.comwrote in message
news:3d*************************@msnews.microsoft. com...
Hello Ken,

yep, if only we have these components :)

However, are u using the latest version of your components?

---
WBR, Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog:
http://spaces.live.com/laflour
"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we
miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo

KFIt is my pleasure to use VS.NET in beta and it is extremly helpful
KFfor my work that MSFT has made it available now.
KFKFThe steps are very easy to reproduce:
KF>
Aug 31 '07 #6

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"Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospamwrote in message
news:DB**********************************@microsof t.com...
The control can be downloaded and is fully functional
What did the vendor of the control say when you contacted them...?
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

Aug 31 '07 #7

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Just generated 53,000+ instances of the nasty character string by switching
back and forth three times between views. Ugh.

My instinct is that maybe if I turn off the right "code reformatting" option
in VS.NET, this issue may go away, but I'm not sure where to start...

-KF
"Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospamwrote in message
news:DB**********************************@microsof t.com...
Yes, using the latest version.

The control can be downloaded and is fully functional: the only limit is
that a watermark appears on the resultant images. If you're interested,
you can test. Or, I will test more carefully in a few days.

It does not sound like this problem is widespread, so this may indeed be a
case of my control interacting badly with VS.NET.

-KF

"Michael Nemtsev"; "MVP" <ne*****@msn.comwrote in message
news:3d*************************@msnews.microsoft. com...
>Hello Ken,

yep, if only we have these components :)

However, are u using the latest version of your components?

---
WBR, Michael Nemtsev [.NET/C# MVP] :: blog:
http://spaces.live.com/laflour
"The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and
we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it" (c) Michelangelo

KFIt is my pleasure to use VS.NET in beta and it is extremly helpful
KFfor my work that MSFT has made it available now.
KFKFThe steps are very easy to reproduce:
KF>
Aug 31 '07 #8

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Until I ID the vendor as the clear and unambiguous cause of this problem,
I'm not going to hassle them. You'll notice in my first post I didn't even
ID them; I didn't want to seem to cast blame without being sure. Steven
asked for the conditions that led to the error so I went ahead and added
more detail.

I was wondering if people are generally running into this issue. It sounds
as though they are not.

-KF
"Mark Rae [MVP]" <ma**@markNOSPAMrae.netwrote in message
news:et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
"Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospamwrote in message
news:DB**********************************@microsof t.com...
>The control can be downloaded and is fully functional

What did the vendor of the control say when you contacted them...?
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net
Aug 31 '07 #9

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I have found a passable workaround, though I still would prefer a faster
fix.

The workaround is to open the file in Notepad and use search/replace in NP,
which is nearly instantaneous. VS.NET will note the modification of the file
and prompt for reload. Repeat as necessary.

I would prefer a VS.NET key binding or something like that that called an
external process if necessary to clean up my file. Don't know if that is
possible.

-KF
"Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospamwrote in message
news:70**********************************@microsof t.com...
>I am using VS.NET 2008 and like it a lot. One of the very few things I
don't like is a bug that seems to spawn literally thousands of  
strings, one after the other, on design view changes. Sometimes I will end
up with as many as 30,000 of them. I have to do a "Replace" which is slower
than I'd like. This is slowing down my work a lot.

This might be related to a commercial control I'm using, or it may just be
VS.NET's indentation getting mangled badly.

Is this happening to anyone else? Is there are workarounds (e.g. turning
off some aspect of automatic code formatting ?)

-KF
Aug 31 '07 #10

P: n/a

Hi Ken Fine,

It seems the problem not quite easy to repro without using that vendor's
component. Have you been able to repro the same behavior through some
standard built-in controls? If not, I'm afraid it would be a bit harder to
dig it further or the dev team will also be unable to track on this.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
>From: "Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospam>
References: <59**********************************@microsoft.co m>
<3d*************************@msnews.microsoft.co m>
<DB**********************************@microsoft.co m>
<et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>In-Reply-To: <et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2008 beta testers: anyone else getting thousands of
  strings on design view change?
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:16:02 -0700
>
Until I ID the vendor as the clear and unambiguous cause of this problem,
I'm not going to hassle them. You'll notice in my first post I didn't even
ID them; I didn't want to seem to cast blame without being sure. Steven
asked for the conditions that led to the error so I went ahead and added
more detail.

I was wondering if people are generally running into this issue. It sounds
as though they are not.

-KF
"Mark Rae [MVP]" <ma**@markNOSPAMrae.netwrote in message
news:et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>"Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospamwrote in message
news:DB**********************************@microso ft.com...
>>The control can be downloaded and is fully functional

What did the vendor of the control say when you contacted them...?
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

Sep 3 '07 #11

P: n/a
Hi Ken Fine,

How are you doing? Have you been able to repro the issue through some
standard controls or component in the VS 2008 IDE? If so, you can give me a
test page or send me a test project so that I can also perform some test on
my side.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
--------------------
>

Hi Ken Fine,

It seems the problem not quite easy to repro without using that vendor's
component. Have you been able to repro the same behavior through some
standard built-in controls? If not, I'm afraid it would be a bit harder to
dig it further or the dev team will also be unable to track on this.

Sincerely,

Steven Cheng

Microsoft MSDN Online Support Lead
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

--------------------
>>From: "Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospam>
References: <59**********************************@microsoft.co m>
<3d*************************@msnews.microsoft.com >
<DB**********************************@microsoft.c om>
<et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
>>In-Reply-To: <et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>
Subject: Re: VS.NET 2008 beta testers: anyone else getting thousands of
  strings on design view change?
>>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 00:16:02 -0700
>>
Until I ID the vendor as the clear and unambiguous cause of this problem,
I'm not going to hassle them. You'll notice in my first post I didn't
even
>>ID them; I didn't want to seem to cast blame without being sure. Steven
asked for the conditions that led to the error so I went ahead and added
more detail.

I was wondering if people are generally running into this issue. It
sounds
>>as though they are not.

-KF
"Mark Rae [MVP]" <ma**@markNOSPAMrae.netwrote in message
news:et**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>"Ken Fine" <ke*****@newsgroup.nospamwrote in message
news:DB**********************************@micros oft.com...

The control can be downloaded and is fully functional

What did the vendor of the control say when you contacted them...?
--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net


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