How to cope up with .NET

[abcd]

I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++ 1.x and
VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM, ADO. Today its
called as old technologies. I have very novice++ expereince with .NET.
Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy just blasted me and FAILED me
.. He asked CAS, threading, App domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of
advanced .NET questions even I have not encountered reading those. I know I
am working on Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle
dot net too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in old
technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly excuse
me]

thanks

[Masudur]

On Jun 25, 11:48 pm, "abcd" <[e-mail] rote:

I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++ 1.x and
VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM, ADO. Today its
called as old technologies. I have very novice++ expereince with .NET.
Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy just blasted me and FAILED me
. He asked CAS, threading, App domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of
advanced .NET questions even I have not encountered reading those. I know I
am working on Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle
dot net too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in old
technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly excuse
me]

thanks

Hi...

no worry.... follow microsoft's current certification plan on .net
technology...
you will start running in .net platform soon...it easy ....

Masudur
http://munnacs.110mb.com

[Mike]

Sounds like he asked you some .NET questions that are on the MCTS test. app
domains, CAS, etc. I've been doing .NET for several years and never been
asked questions like that (so far).

All I can say is get a few books or do some reading online about .NET. You
can download C# Express or VB.NET Express for free and start learning it.
But overall just try and get an understanding of the .NET framework then go
to a language to learn and code in.

framework:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/net...k/default.aspx

C#:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vcsharp/default.aspx
VB:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vbasic/default.aspx
Visual Studio Express:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/
--
Mike
'IGotYourDotNet '
http://igotyourdotnet.blogspot.com/

"abcd" <ab**@abcd.comw rote in message
news:uN******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP04.phx.gbl...

>I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++ 1.x and
VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM, ADO. Today its
called as old technologies. I have very novice++ expereince with .NET.
Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy just blasted me and FAILED
me . He asked CAS, threading, App domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of
advanced .NET questions even I have not encountered reading those. I know I
am working on Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle
dot net too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in
old technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET
things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly excuse
me]

thanks

[Masudur]

On Jun 26, 12:18 am, "abcd" <[e-mail] rote:

I am already MCP in VB 6.0, VC++ 6.0
MCP in C# ASP.NET (exam 70-315)

Looks little odd to me that by having such expereince and Microsoft
certifications one could not believe on my abilities. I too take intvws for
candidates from my company but I check only capabilities and not the details
about one particular technology. There are lots of things in a product
development cycyle that one should be aware of.

I have definitely started reading abt .NET but there are lots of new things
which is making me slow to learn considering my daily work schedule.

I have worked in C++ MFC threading - CMutex, CSemaphore, CCriticalSectio n
and all that. Does this knowledge not sufficient for some one to work in
threading in .NET. Are the concepts really changed...? I dont think so....

Looks like companies becoming very aggressive and very picky.

Masudur wrote:

On Jun 25, 11:48 pm, "abcd" <[e-mail] rote:

I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++
1.x and VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM,
ADO. Today its called as old technologies. I have very novice++
expereince with .NET. Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy
just blasted me and FAILED me . He asked CAS, threading, App
domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of advanced .NET questions
even I have not encountered reading those. I know I am working on
Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle dot net
too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in old
technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET
things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly
excuse me]

thanks

Hi...

no worry.... follow microsoft's current certification plan on .net
technology...
you will start running in .net platform soon...it easy ....

Masudur
http://munnacs.110mb.com

hi...

"Looks like companies becoming very aggressive and very picky."
yap yap yap... you are right...
i did have a smiler experience ... i had to face question directly
from reflection and inside appdoman stuff

[Mark Rae]

"abcd" <ab**@abcd.comw rote in message
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>I am already MCP in VB 6.0, VC++ 6.0
MCP in C# ASP.NET (exam 70-315)

Looks little odd to me that by having such expereince and Microsoft
certifications one could not believe on my abilities.

Looks perfectly understandable to me - Microsoft "certifications " are
utterly worthless...

All you need to get one is download the entire set of questions from any
number of sites for a few dollars and learn them the evening before you sit
the "test".

E.g.
http://www.examcheets.com/
--
http://www.markrae.net

[Laurent Bugnion, MVP]

Hi,

abcd wrote:

I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++ 1.x and
VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM, ADO. Today its
called as old technologies. I have very novice++ expereince with .NET.
Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy just blasted me and FAILED me
. He asked CAS, threading, App domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of
advanced .NET questions even I have not encountered reading those. I know I
am working on Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle
dot net too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in old
technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly excuse
me]

thanks

Actually, you're in quite a nice position, because it has never been so
easy to learn technology independently, without going to follow an
expensive course. The web has so many resources allowing you to learn at
home.

Choose wisely which technologies you learn, though. Learning Windows
Forms (.NET Windows Applications) is not recommended, since this
technology will eventually disappear and be replaced by WPF. My
recommendations for learning are:

- WPF
- WCF
- ASP.NET
- Silverlight
- LINQ
- ADO.NET

That's a lot already, so take it one step at a time.

Courage,
Laurent
--
Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET]
Software engineering, Blog: http://www.galasoft.ch
PhotoAlbum: http://www.galasoft.ch/pictures
Support children in Calcutta: http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch

[Masudur]

On Jun 26, 12:30 am, "Laurent Bugnion, MVP" <galasoft...@bl uewin.ch>
wrote:

Hi,

abcd wrote:

I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++ 1.x and
VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM, ADO. Today its
called as old technologies. I have very novice++ expereince with .NET.
Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy just blasted me and FAILED me
. He asked CAS, threading, App domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of
advanced .NET questions even I have not encountered reading those. I know I
am working on Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle
dot net too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in old
technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly excuse
me]

thanks

Actually, you're in quite a nice position, because it has never been so
easy to learn technology independently, without going to follow an
expensive course. The web has so many resources allowing you to learn at
home.

Choose wisely which technologies you learn, though. Learning Windows
Forms (.NET Windows Applications) is not recommended, since this
technology will eventually disappear and be replaced by WPF. My
recommendations for learning are:

- WPF
- WCF
- ASP.NET
- Silverlight
- LINQ
- ADO.NET

That's a lot already, so take it one step at a time.

Courage,
Laurent
--
Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET]
Software engineering, Blog:http://www.galasoft.ch
PhotoAlbum:http://www.galasoft.ch/pictures
Support children in Calcutta:http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch

boy...

i am getting afraid now... of all these stuff...
i have to learn lot of things :)
new and new things are coming...

[abcd]

me too....

I thought Microsoft is going to take care of all the technologies and people
should concentrate more on their business logics...to me (as a developer /
designer) this looks more work...Learning lots of new things and spending so
many hours which one will be the best solution for longer run. Our products
still good with older technologies and customers are very happy we dont see
any desire to move to .NET. I bet there might be many such companies who are
happy with older investments. I can still expedia.com site still good on
classic ASP (thats what I can see in browser that its still pointing to
..asp).

I even dont have working expereince with Reflection, Generics, App Domain,
Threading, Code Access Security, Delegates. If I dont learn these things
asap then it will not take time to become obsolete in the market. My 13 yrs
expereince will go in vain within no time.

When I will learn these things the job I will get will not use these things
so again skills will be wasted and by the time new things will come up and I
will start leaning those. etc etc

Nowadays, I have a gut feeling that software development by introducing new
technologies is just another money making business. You come up with new
things...people buy books, expensive training materials..all these things
are connected...but ultimately customer suffers and again big IT budget...
Masudur wrote:

On Jun 26, 12:30 am, "Laurent Bugnion, MVP" <galasoft...@bl uewin.ch>
wrote:

>Hi,

abcd wrote:

>>I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++
1.x and VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM,
ADO. Today its called as old technologies. I have very novice++
expereince with .NET. Recently I appeared for one intvw and that
guy just blasted me and FAILED me . He asked CAS, threading, App
domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of advanced .NET questions
even I have not encountered reading those. I know I am working on
Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle dot net
too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in
old technologies and thats what I sped most of my day working in
those technologies and not getting enough practical exposure to new
.NET things...

>>How should I handle this issue.

>>[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly
excuse me]

>>thanks

Actually, you're in quite a nice position, because it has never been
so easy to learn technology independently, without going to follow an
expensive course. The web has so many resources allowing you to
learn at home.

Choose wisely which technologies you learn, though. Learning Windows
Forms (.NET Windows Applications) is not recommended, since this
technology will eventually disappear and be replaced by WPF. My
recommendation s for learning are:

- WPF
- WCF
- ASP.NET
- Silverlight
- LINQ
- ADO.NET

That's a lot already, so take it one step at a time.

Courage,
Laurent
--
Laurent Bugnion [MVP ASP.NET]
Software engineering, Blog:http://www.galasoft.ch
PhotoAlbum:http://www.galasoft.ch/pictures
Support children in Calcutta:http://www.calcutta-espoir.ch

boy...

i am getting afraid now... of all these stuff...
i have to learn lot of things :)
new and new things are coming...

[Mike]

if your an MCP in C# ASP.NET (exam 70-315), then his questions should have
been a no brainer to you then. So I'm a little confused.

Companies aren't becoming picky, the mgrs are just noticing that anyone can
get Microsoft certified and yet, never actually worked with the technology.
I myself own a software consulting company and I had a resume come across my
deks. It looked incredible, C++, C#, .NET, VB.NET, SharePoint, Java,
Handheld, etc, then he listed Java Certified, Microfsoft Certified MCTS. So
I was like OK, now this guy knows what he's doing. WRONG! When I started
asking him about general .NET questions, he got a few not many, but when I
started asking some more advance .NET questions, security, architecture,
culture, etc. he was totally clueless, so I came down a notch and asked
about ADO.NET, ASP.NET, IIS permission, asp.net page flow, web.config file
information, again clueless. Come to find out he just took the test and
never worked in the technology.

So when I see a cert on a resume, it means absolutely nothing to me these
days.
Its just a piece of paper like a college degree. You will never know how the
real world works or what to expect until you experience it first hand. Yes
the degree is good, but do you want an recent college grad running your
fortune 500 company has his first job? Do you want an freshly new MCTS being
your tech lead on a million dollar project for a client and he has no idea
how to even get around the VS.NET ide or can't even write a line of code ?

I know I don't

"abcd" <ab**@abcd.comw rote in message
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>I am already MCP in VB 6.0, VC++ 6.0
MCP in C# ASP.NET (exam 70-315)

Looks little odd to me that by having such expereince and Microsoft
certifications one could not believe on my abilities. I too take intvws
for candidates from my company but I check only capabilities and not the
details about one particular technology. There are lots of things in a
product development cycyle that one should be aware of.

I have definitely started reading abt .NET but there are lots of new
things which is making me slow to learn considering my daily work
schedule.

I have worked in C++ MFC threading - CMutex, CSemaphore, CCriticalSectio n
and all that. Does this knowledge not sufficient for some one to work in
threading in .NET. Are the concepts really changed...? I dont think so....

Looks like companies becoming very aggressive and very picky.
Masudur wrote:

>On Jun 25, 11:48 pm, "abcd" <[e-mail] rote:

>>I am working on Vistual Studio since last 10 yrs. Working from VC++
1.x and VB 3.x. Currently I am working in VS 6.0, classic ASP, COM,
ADO. Today its called as old technologies. I have very novice++
expereince with .NET. Recently I appeared for one intvw and that guy
just blasted me and FAILED me . He asked CAS, threading, App
domains, concurrency ADO.NET, and lots of advanced .NET questions
even I have not encountered reading those. I know I am working on
Visual C++, MFC, ATL, VB 6.0 since many years. I can handle dot net
too once the responsbiliitie s come. My currently products are in old
technologie s and thats what I sped most of my day working in those
technologie s and not getting enough practical exposure to new .NET
things...

How should I handle this issue.

[if this is not the correct group to discuss this topic then kindly
excuse me]

thanks

Hi...

no worry.... follow microsoft's current certification plan on .net
technology.. .
you will start running in .net platform soon...it easy ....

Masudur
http://munnacs.110mb.com

[Mark Rae]

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yap yap yap...

What does that mean...?
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