HttpModules - Webservices

[Bruce Hodge]

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservices, (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLower ().IndexOf(this .GetServiceName (newRequest).To Lower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpRequest request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.RequestHis tory.Requests.A ddRequestsRow(
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)
this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}
--
Regards

Bruce Hodge

[Scott Allen]

Bruce:

The Application.Loc k would make me nervous. It does look as if you
have an Unlock at the right places, but you might consider using a
finally clause. I'd

When the application blocks can you break in with the debugger and
look at call stacks for all the threads? That might show you how the
application became deadlocked.

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:57 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservices, (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLowe r().IndexOf(thi s.GetServiceNam e(newRequest).T oLower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpRequest request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.RequestHi story.Requests. AddRequestsRow(
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)
this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}

[Scott Allen]

Bruce:

Also wanted to point out you might consider a tool look Fiddler to
eyeball the request/response from a client machine and see if there
are obvious differences.

http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/

HTH,

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:57 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservices, (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLowe r().IndexOf(thi s.GetServiceNam e(newRequest).T oLower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpRequest request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.RequestHi story.Requests. AddRequestsRow(
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)
this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}

[Bruce Hodge]

Hi Scott,

When the service hangs I can't break in, but I do have some information from
before it hangs. Also when it does hang the aspnet_wp.exe goes to 95+ CPU
processor time, the memory usage remains static at 82,052K.

On the threads it appears that threads are left running not attached to a
piece of code, I don't know enough on threading to understand this (it
looks like a pool for the aspnet_wp.exe process), basically after a dozen or
so requests have been made the thread window has the following entries:

ID, Name, Location, Priority, Suspend
4740, <No Name>, , Normal, 0
3724, <No Name>, , Normal, 0
4608, <No Name>, , , 0
4264, <No Name>, , Mars.Utils.Http RequestViewer.O nBeginRequest, Normal, 0

The only way to clear the problem is to End the aspnet_wp.exe process.

To see whether there were thread issues on the Application object I tried
saving the Dataset on the Cache and to a Static variable, it made no
difference.

Regards Bruce H
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.o detocode.com> wrote in message
news:on******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

Bruce:

The Application.Loc k would make me nervous. It does look as if you
have an Unlock at the right places, but you might consider using a
finally clause. I'd

When the application blocks can you break in with the debugger and
look at call stacks for all the threads? That might show you how the
application became deadlocked.

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:57 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservices , (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to
provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if
the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but
after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLow er().IndexOf(th is.GetServiceNa me(newRequest). ToLower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpRequest request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process
fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.RequestH istory.Requests .AddRequestsRow (
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)

this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}

[Bruce Hodge]

Hi Scott,

Yes I've used fiddler for a while and it's very useful. It won't provide
the "total" solution we are looking for and I've not found a way to attach
it to the webservice request, is that possible?

Regards

Bruce H
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.o detocode.com> wrote in message
news:e9******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

Bruce:

Also wanted to point out you might consider a tool look Fiddler to
eyeball the request/response from a client machine and see if there
are obvious differences.

http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/

HTH,

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:57 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservices , (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to
provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if
the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but
after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLow er().IndexOf(th is.GetServiceNa me(newRequest). ToLower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpRequest request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process
fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.RequestH istory.Requests .AddRequestsRow (
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)

this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}

[Scott Allen]

For .NET clients calling web services you might try:

GlobalProxySele ction.Select = new WebProxy("127.0 .0.1", 8888);

and that should pump packets through Fiddler. To trace calls from PHP,
VFP - I don't know. I'd imagine there would be someway to specify a
proxy server for the calls but I don't know what that would be.

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:09:22 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi Scott,

Yes I've used fiddler for a while and it's very useful. It won't provide
the "total" solution we are looking for and I've not found a way to attach
it to the webservice request, is that possible?

Regards

Bruce H
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.o detocode.com> wrote in message
news:e9******* *************** **********@4ax. com...

Bruce:

Also wanted to point out you might consider a tool look Fiddler to
eyeball the request/response from a client machine and see if there
are obvious differences.

http://www.fiddlertool.com/fiddler/

HTH,

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:57 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservice s, (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to
provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if
the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but
after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLo wer().IndexOf(t his.GetServiceN ame(newRequest) .ToLower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpReques t request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process
fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.Request History.Request s.AddRequestsRo w(
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)

this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}

[Scott Allen]

Hi Buck:

These problems can be pretty tough to debug. One approach I've used is
the dump file approach with WinDbg [1], but this can be a steep
learning curve if you haven't used the tools or done any debugging
with a native debugger.

Just to make sure the problem isn't a thread deadlock, you could
replace Application.Loc k with Ian's TimedLock [2] and see if there are
error messages about locks timing out.

What is the HistorySize? Could the Delete operation on the DataTable
be sucking up lots of CPU?
[1]
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...html/dbgrm.asp
[2] http://www.interact-sw.co.uk/iangblo.../03/23/locking

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Thu, 12 May 2005 09:07:36 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi Scott,

When the service hangs I can't break in, but I do have some information from
before it hangs. Also when it does hang the aspnet_wp.exe goes to 95+ CPU
processor time, the memory usage remains static at 82,052K.

On the threads it appears that threads are left running not attached to a
piece of code, I don't know enough on threading to understand this (it
looks like a pool for the aspnet_wp.exe process), basically after a dozen or
so requests have been made the thread window has the following entries:

ID, Name, Location, Priority, Suspend
4740, <No Name>, , Normal, 0
3724, <No Name>, , Normal, 0
4608, <No Name>, , , 0
4264, <No Name>, , Mars.Utils.Http RequestViewer.O nBeginRequest, Normal, 0

The only way to clear the problem is to End the aspnet_wp.exe process.

To see whether there were thread issues on the Application object I tried
saving the Dataset on the Cache and to a Static variable, it made no
difference.

Regards Bruce H
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.o detocode.com> wrote in message
news:on******* *************** **********@4ax. com...

Bruce:

The Application.Loc k would make me nervous. It does look as if you
have an Unlock at the right places, but you might consider using a
finally clause. I'd

When the application blocks can you break in with the debugger and
look at call stacks for all the threads? That might show you how the
application became deadlocked.

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
On Wed, 11 May 2005 20:30:57 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi,

We have a couple of clients who are having trouble connecting to .Net
webservice s, (they're coming from PHP and VFP). We were looking to
provide
a diagonostic tool that displayed the soap message submitted so that if
the
call failed they could compare their SoapMessage with the ones we generate
in .Net.

Thought the solution was an HttpModule hooked into begin request, but
after
approx 10 requests it hangs the webservice/aspnet service, any thoughts?
Code below.

(The HttpRequests are stored in Typed Dataset, stored on the Application
object so that they can be accessed from webpages.)
public void OnBeginRequest( Object s, EventArgs e)
{
try
{
// Cast the Object to the HttpApplication variable.
HttpApplication app = (HttpApplicatio n)s;

HttpRequest newRequest = app.Request;

string servers = this.ServicesTo Monitor();
int posn =
servers.ToLo wer().IndexOf(t his.GetServiceN ame(newRequest) .ToLower());

if (posn > -1)
this.AddFromHtt pRequest(this.R equestHistory, newRequest);

}

catch (Exception ex)
{
//Custom error logging code
}

}

private void AddFromHttpRequ est(Mars.Schema .HttpRequests history,
HttpReques t request)
{
try
{
HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.Lock();

byte [] byteArray = new byte[request.Content Length];

request.InputSt ream.Read(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length);

// Must reset the Input Stream position or the whole process
fails.
request.InputSt ream.Position = 0;

Mars.Schema.Htt pRequests.Reque stsRow row =
this.Request History.Request s.AddRequestsRo w(
request.RawUrl,
request.HttpMet hod,
request.Content Type,
request.Content Length,
Encoding.ASCII. GetString(byteA rray, 0, request.Content Length),
DateTime.Now,
this.GetService Name(request),
this.SOAPAction (request),
request.ServerV ariables["REMOTE_ADD R"]);

foreach (string s in request.Headers .AllKeys)

this.RequestHis tory.HttpHeader s.AddHttpHeader sRow(row.Reques tID,
s, request.Headers[s]);

while (this.RequestHi story.Requests. Count > this.HistorySiz e)
{
this.RequestHis tory.Requests[0].Delete();
}

this.RequestHis tory.AcceptChan ges();

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

catch (Exception ex)
{

#region Catch Block

#endregion

HttpContext.Cur rent.Applicatio n.UnLock();

}

}

[Bruce Hodge]

Hi Scott,

I'll work my way through that.

The history size just limites the record to the most recent 20 records and
the headers are in a seperate table, 2 tables in the XSD in all. So there
shouldn't be any problems there unless the DataSet object has threading
issues I'm not aware off?

Regards

Bruce H

[Scott Allen]

Sorry, that should have been "Bruce" not "Buck". Don't know where that
came from, apologies.

The DataSet shouldn't have problems with differrent threads adding /
removing rows - as long as it's not concurrent access, which it looks
like you've taken care of.

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/

On Thu, 12 May 2005 19:22:45 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi Scott,

I'll work my way through that.

The history size just limites the record to the most recent 20 records and
the headers are in a seperate table, 2 tables in the XSD in all. So there
shouldn't be any problems there unless the DataSet object has threading
issues I'm not aware off?

Regards

Bruce H

[Bruce Hodge]

Hi Scott,

through a process of trial an error I've narrowed the problem down to the
Dataset, the only issue now is whether to work around or find the problem,
anyway the weekend is here so a problem for Monday.

Regards

Bruce H

"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.o detocode.com> wrote in message
news:aq******** *************** *********@4ax.c om...

Sorry, that should have been "Bruce" not "Buck". Don't know where that
came from, apologies.

The DataSet shouldn't have problems with differrent threads adding /
removing rows - as long as it's not concurrent access, which it looks
like you've taken care of.

--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/

On Thu, 12 May 2005 19:22:45 +0100, "Bruce Hodge"
<su*****@machas sociates.com> wrote:

Hi Scott,

I'll work my way through that.

The history size just limites the record to the most recent 20 records and
the headers are in a seperate table, 2 tables in the XSD in all. So there
shouldn't be any problems there unless the DataSet object has threading
issues I'm not aware off?

Regards

Bruce H