I have now spent 5 hours on google/msdn looking for something useful in the
creation of user controls for asp.net. The VS 2003 has very limited support
for things such as absolute positioning of the control etc.
Nov 18 '05
13  1590 
Ok, I have a work around, (at least until VS2006). I can create the
variable and in the page load do a FindControl to populate it. To place the
control I can create a panel and use this panel to host the control.
Not exactly what you would expect from a "RAD" product.
Thanks to all for their ideas. An composite of all those ideas was the
parent of the solution.
Lloyd Sheen
Actually it does. The var must have exactly the same name as that in the
..ASPX/.ASCX html page and should be declared at least as protected or
higher. This works perfectly in C#, but I can't say for VB.
As for your gripes about the product, maybe you should seek some training so
as to reduce the learning curve a little. If you are a MSDN subscriber, be
sure to get the "Whidbey" CD released at October's PDC. The ASP.NET team is
making huge strides in the design-time experience, and I believe in the
user-control arena that you'll probably want to check out.
Jeffrey
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq************ *******@tostops pamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l0******** **********@news 01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.c om... Putting the reference does nothing other than creating a variable. It is
never set and cannot be used.
"Suresh" <an*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
news:12******** *************** ******@phx.gbl. ..A. No support for absolute positioning of the control.
You are right. VS.NET ide doesn't seem to support
absolute positioning for a user control. I'm not sure if
there's a setting that'll allow you to control that.
But a possible workaround is to place a control that does
absolute positioning such as a Label and place it in the
form where you want the control. Then take the Style
property text and place it inside your user control.
Hopefully someone here has a more elegant way.
B. No reference to the control in the VB codebehind page.
This is because the object doesn't get declared in the
codebehind automatically. You have to manually add it.
It should be like the following.
Protected <YourUserContro lClassName> <IDofyouUserCon trol>
That should create the reference in your codebehind.
HTH,
Suresh.
-----Original Message-----
Ok guys thank for the help. Let me explain what I have
tried.
1. Create a Web User Control within ASP project.
2. Add GridFlow panel and add controls within
3. Drag WUC to the asp page I want to have the control
on.
Now the problems commence.
A. No support for absolute positioning of the control.
B. No reference to the control in the VB codebehind page.
So that is useless for my purposes.
Next try.
1. Create Web Control Library
Now the problems commence (already). When I go to add
the web control I canonly add windows form controls. Now the help line on the
New Project dialogstates "A project for creating controls to use in Web
applications". Theproblem is that within this project there is no designer
support.
Now after some experimenting I see that if I just say add
new item then theselections change. MS please please fix VS. Now there
is still no designersupport. What good is an IDE if all you really need is
notepad.
All in all totally useless for RAD.
Lloyd Sheen
.
Jeffrey,
I have been using the MS visual tools since VB1. The biggest problem
with the new VS is that the docs are not up to the task. I have been
compiling of a list of problems with the release and the wait until the next
release is getting a little old.
There are way too many things in the IDE that just don't do the job. I
first set out to learn the .NET framework which has good docs and I was
pleased by the classes which took care of many of the needs that I have been
used to coding myself.
What level of MSDN is required to get the Whidbey "beta". I have
Enterprise and see nothing in any of the categories about it.
Lloyd
"Jeffrey Huntsman" <jhuntsman@__no spam__teletrack ing.com> wrote in message
news:uw******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... Actually it does. The var must have exactly the same name as that in the
.ASPX/.ASCX html page and should be declared at least as protected or
higher. This works perfectly in C#, but I can't say for VB.
As for your gripes about the product, maybe you should seek some training
so as to reduce the learning curve a little. If you are a MSDN subscriber, be
sure to get the "Whidbey" CD released at October's PDC. The ASP.NET team
is making huge strides in the design-time experience, and I believe in the
user-control arena that you'll probably want to check out.
Jeffrey
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq************ *******@tostops pamhotmail.com> wrote in
message news:l0******** **********@news 01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.c om... Putting the reference does nothing other than creating a variable. It
is never set and cannot be used.
"Suresh" <an*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
news:12******** *************** ******@phx.gbl. .. >A. No support for absolute positioning of the control.
You are right. VS.NET ide doesn't seem to support
absolute positioning for a user control. I'm not sure if
there's a setting that'll allow you to control that.
But a possible workaround is to place a control that does
absolute positioning such as a Label and place it in the
form where you want the control. Then take the Style
property text and place it inside your user control.
Hopefully someone here has a more elegant way.
>B. No reference to the control in the VB codebehind page.
This is because the object doesn't get declared in the
codebehind automatically. You have to manually add it.
It should be like the following.
Protected <YourUserContro lClassName> <IDofyouUserCon trol>
That should create the reference in your codebehind.
HTH,
Suresh.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ok guys thank for the help. Let me explain what I have
tried.
>
>1. Create a Web User Control within ASP project.
>2. Add GridFlow panel and add controls within
>3. Drag WUC to the asp page I want to have the control
on.
>
>Now the problems commence.
>
>A. No support for absolute positioning of the control.
>B. No reference to the control in the VB codebehind page.
>
>So that is useless for my purposes.
>
>Next try.
>
>1. Create Web Control Library
>
>Now the problems commence (already). When I go to add
the web control I can
>only add windows form controls. Now the help line on the
New Project dialog
>states "A project for creating controls to use in Web
applications". The
>problem is that within this project there is no designer
support.
>
>Now after some experimenting I see that if I just say add
new item then the
>selections change. MS please please fix VS. Now there
is still no designer
>support. What good is an IDE if all you really need is
notepad.
>
>All in all totally useless for RAD.
>
>Lloyd Sheen
>
>
>.
>
PS. Thanks for the help. Setting the variable to the correct name fixed
the problem. Now if only that were documented. If it were not for the help
of the people on this newgroup I would have no hair left from all the
scratching.
Lloyd
"Jeffrey Huntsman" <jhuntsman@__no spam__teletrack ing.com> wrote in message
news:uw******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl... Actually it does. The var must have exactly the same name as that in the
.ASPX/.ASCX html page and should be declared at least as protected or
higher. This works perfectly in C#, but I can't say for VB.
As for your gripes about the product, maybe you should seek some training
so as to reduce the learning curve a little. If you are a MSDN subscriber, be
sure to get the "Whidbey" CD released at October's PDC. The ASP.NET team
is making huge strides in the design-time experience, and I believe in the
user-control arena that you'll probably want to check out.
Jeffrey
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq************ *******@tostops pamhotmail.com> wrote in
message news:l0******** **********@news 01.bloor.is.net .cable.rogers.c om... Putting the reference does nothing other than creating a variable. It
is never set and cannot be used.
"Suresh" <an*******@disc ussions.microso ft.com> wrote in message
news:12******** *************** ******@phx.gbl. .. >A. No support for absolute positioning of the control.
You are right. VS.NET ide doesn't seem to support
absolute positioning for a user control. I'm not sure if
there's a setting that'll allow you to control that.
But a possible workaround is to place a control that does
absolute positioning such as a Label and place it in the
form where you want the control. Then take the Style
property text and place it inside your user control.
Hopefully someone here has a more elegant way.
>B. No reference to the control in the VB codebehind page.
This is because the object doesn't get declared in the
codebehind automatically. You have to manually add it.
It should be like the following.
Protected <YourUserContro lClassName> <IDofyouUserCon trol>
That should create the reference in your codebehind.
HTH,
Suresh.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ok guys thank for the help. Let me explain what I have
tried.
>
>1. Create a Web User Control within ASP project.
>2. Add GridFlow panel and add controls within
>3. Drag WUC to the asp page I want to have the control
on.
>
>Now the problems commence.
>
>A. No support for absolute positioning of the control.
>B. No reference to the control in the VB codebehind page.
>
>So that is useless for my purposes.
>
>Next try.
>
>1. Create Web Control Library
>
>Now the problems commence (already). When I go to add
the web control I can
>only add windows form controls. Now the help line on the
New Project dialog
>states "A project for creating controls to use in Web
applications". The
>problem is that within this project there is no designer
support.
>
>Now after some experimenting I see that if I just say add
new item then the
>selections change. MS please please fix VS. Now there
is still no designer
>support. What good is an IDE if all you really need is
notepad.
>
>All in all totally useless for RAD.
>
>Lloyd Sheen
>
>
>.
>
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