Cookie problem Sessionid get doubled

[Christoph Pieper]

Hi,

we've the following problem :

We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The cookie
will never be touched during user access. The user can work the whole day,
but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had the same
problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the client has
windows xp sp2.

Regards

Christoph

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

What are you storing in the cookie? I don't really understand what you're
saying here with the cookie getting 2-4 session IDs.

Ray at work

"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:61******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

we've the following problem :

We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The cookie will never be touched during user access. The user can work the whole day,
but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had the same
problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the client has windows xp sp2.

Regards

Christoph

[Kyle Peterson]

the way your explaining it does not make sense
"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:61******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

we've the following problem :

We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The
cookie
will never be touched during user access. The user can work the whole day,
but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had the same
problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the client
has
windows xp sp2.

Regards

Christoph

[Christoph Pieper]

Hi,

we store here the user login data , and other important data. this data will
be cleaned out if we get the 3 or 4 new sessionids (and we don't know how
they get there, 'cause we only read the data on a session timeout). so if we
get a session timeout, we could read the data from the cookie again and
restore the session.

Regards

Christoph

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" wrote:

What are you storing in the cookie? I don't really understand what you're
saying here with the cookie getting 2-4 session IDs.

Ray at work

"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:61******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

we've the following problem :

We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The

cookie

will never be touched during user access. The user can work the whole day,
but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had the same
problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the client

has

windows xp sp2.

Regards

Christoph

[Mark Schupp]

Do you mean ASP session ids (as in Session.Session ID). That ID will only
change if the browser fails to send the session cookie. IIS will then
generate a new one. It should have no effect on your cookie unless you reset
your cookie data when a new ASP session starts.

Is your cookie a disk cookie (has an expiration date) or a memory cookie (no
expiration date)?

--
--Mark Schupp
"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:B4******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

we store here the user login data , and other important data. this data
will
be cleaned out if we get the 3 or 4 new sessionids (and we don't know how
they get there, 'cause we only read the data on a session timeout). so if
we
get a session timeout, we could read the data from the cookie again and
restore the session.

Regards

Christoph

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" wrote:

What are you storing in the cookie? I don't really understand what
you're
saying here with the cookie getting 2-4 session IDs.

Ray at work

"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:61******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

> Hi,
>
> we've the following problem :
>
> We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The

cookie

> will never be touched during user access. The user can work the whole
> day,
> but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
> overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had the
> same
> problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the client

has

> windows xp sp2.
>
> Regards
>
> Christoph

[Christoph Pieper]

Hi Mark,

thx for your reply. Yes the sessionID (session.sessio nid) is changing and is
written in addition into the cookie. How can this happen since we do only
create in one time. the session does not terminate, and we do not access the
cookie again (tested). Why should the browser fail to send the session cookie
? the cookie has an expiration date of 24hours from login on.

regards

christoph

"Mark Schupp" wrote:

Do you mean ASP session ids (as in Session.Session ID). That ID will only
change if the browser fails to send the session cookie. IIS will then
generate a new one. It should have no effect on your cookie unless you reset
your cookie data when a new ASP session starts.

Is your cookie a disk cookie (has an expiration date) or a memory cookie (no
expiration date)?

--
--Mark Schupp
"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:B4******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi,

we store here the user login data , and other important data. this data
will
be cleaned out if we get the 3 or 4 new sessionids (and we don't know how
they get there, 'cause we only read the data on a session timeout). so if
we
get a session timeout, we could read the data from the cookie again and
restore the session.

Regards

Christoph

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" wrote:

What are you storing in the cookie? I don't really understand what
you're
saying here with the cookie getting 2-4 session IDs.

Ray at work

"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:61******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> we've the following problem :
>
> We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The
cookie
> will never be touched during user access. The user can work the whole
> day,
> but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
> overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had the
> same
> problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the client
has
> windows xp sp2.
>
> Regards
>
> Christoph

[Mark J. McGinty]

"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:40******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

Hi Mark,

thx for your reply. Yes the sessionID (session.sessio nid) is changing and
is
written in addition into the cookie. How can this happen since we do only
create in one time. the session does not terminate, and we do not access
the
cookie again (tested). Why should the browser fail to send the session
cookie
? the cookie has an expiration date of 24hours from login on.
You said you don't access the cookie until the session has timed out. At
that point the session ID is invalid to IIS, so it generates another ID for
the new session. The cookie doesn't expire for 24 hours, but the default
ASP session timeout is 20 minutes. So IE is sending all of the session ids
along with the rest of the cookie, it's just that all but one are no longer
meaningful to the server.

If you had a way to to tell which sessionid was older, you might be able to
set the expired one to zero length. Or, when you detect that you've
accumulated too much sessionid baggage, you could expire the cookie, post
the info back to yourself (like with a refresh pragma, or by emitting some
client script) and then create a new cookie out of the info you posted to
yourself.
-Mark

regards

christoph

"Mark Schupp" wrote:

Do you mean ASP session ids (as in Session.Session ID). That ID will only
change if the browser fails to send the session cookie. IIS will then
generate a new one. It should have no effect on your cookie unless you
reset
your cookie data when a new ASP session starts.

Is your cookie a disk cookie (has an expiration date) or a memory cookie
(no
expiration date)?

--
--Mark Schupp
"Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote in
message news:B4******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...

> Hi,
>
> we store here the user login data , and other important data. this data
> will
> be cleaned out if we get the 3 or 4 new sessionids (and we don't know
> how
> they get there, 'cause we only read the data on a session timeout). so
> if
> we
> get a session timeout, we could read the data from the cookie again and
> restore the session.
>
> Regards
>
> Christoph
>
> "Ray Costanzo [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> What are you storing in the cookie? I don't really understand what
>> you're
>> saying here with the cookie getting 2-4 session IDs.
>>
>> Ray at work
>>
>> "Christoph Pieper" <Ch************ *@discussions.m icrosoft.com> wrote
>> in
>> message news:61******** *************** ***********@mic rosoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > we've the following problem :
>> >
>> > We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login. The
>> cookie
>> > will never be touched during user access. The user can work the
>> > whole
>> > day,
>> > but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new asp-sessionid's thus
>> > overwriting the very first entries in the cookie. Does anyone had
>> > the
>> > same
>> > problem or has a solution. The server is a w2003 enterprise the
>> > client
>> has
>> > windows xp sp2.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Christoph
>>
>>
>>

[Dave Anderson]

"Christoph Pieper" wrote:

We have an asp-application which sets the cookie on first login.
The cookie will never be touched during user access. The user can
work the whole day, but after 6 to 7 hours, the cookie get 2-4 new
asp-sessionid's thus overwriting the very first entries in the
cookie. Does anyone had the same problem or has a solution. The
server is a w2003 enterprise the client has windows xp sp2.

There are numerous possibilities that your post does not address.

For starters, are you certain that the user has not closed (and reopened)
the browser all day?

Is there any chance the user is opening a second browser window?

Do you use frames (includes IFRAME) ?

Have you observed this problem in any browser other than Internet Explorer?

Do you have a privacy policy?

Those are only some of the questions whose answers have session
consequences.
Here's a decent list:
http://aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2157
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