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Hi Folk

I looked at the Northwind Sample Database for the first time recently and I
was just wondering why they made it so ugly. If northwind is supposed to be
inspiring to young and hopeful access programmers then why does it look
straight out of an 1984 slapstick? MS Corp surely must have a couple of
capable designers to make things look pretty. Did I offend anyone? It is
just my opinion, i may be wrong so do not take it personally ... I live on a
windswept, God-forgotten island in the roaring fourties.

What is your opinion on this?

- Nicolaas
Nov 13 '05 #1
8 3694
Per xtra:
What is your opinion on this?


Can't comment on the beautiousness of it, but my overwhelming impression after
some years of commercial MS Access development is that it's not even remotely
"real-world".

Having said that, it does serve a useful role as a reference point for various
discussions/explainations/'How-To's of various techniques.
--
PeteCresswell
Nov 13 '05 #2
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 12:18:34 +1200, "xtra"
<wi**********@hottermail.com> wrote:

Take it as a challenge. When will you be posting your improved
version?
-Tom.
Hi Folk

I looked at the Northwind Sample Database for the first time recently and I
was just wondering why they made it so ugly. If northwind is supposed to be
inspiring to young and hopeful access programmers then why does it look
straight out of an 1984 slapstick? MS Corp surely must have a couple of
capable designers to make things look pretty. Did I offend anyone? It is
just my opinion, i may be wrong so do not take it personally ... I live on a
windswept, God-forgotten island in the roaring fourties.

What is your opinion on this?

- Nicolaas


Nov 13 '05 #3

"xtra" <wi**********@hottermail.com> wrote in message
news:41******************@news.xtra.co.nz...
Hi Folk

I looked at the Northwind Sample Database for the first time recently and
I
was just wondering why they made it so ugly. If northwind is supposed to
be
inspiring to young and hopeful access programmers then why does it look
straight out of an 1984 slapstick? MS Corp surely must have a couple of
capable designers to make things look pretty. Did I offend anyone? It is
just my opinion, i may be wrong so do not take it personally ... I live on
a
windswept, God-forgotten island in the roaring fourties.

What is your opinion on this?

- Nicolaas

Practically everything I know about Access I learned from studying the
Northwind demo. In my opinion it's one of the best examples of a
full-function Access database ever made, although I don't know about the
latest versions because I only use Access 97. Most of my databases begin as
a copy of the Northwind demo and then I modify the demo to suit my client's
needs.

Nov 13 '05 #4
Don's apparently got a lot of time on his hands, again, to bother
impersonating me. I was wondering where he'd been, lately. Creating
databases from scratch is 'way too much fun for me to follow his path.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
Nov 13 '05 #5

"Larry Linson" <no****@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:1118376102.e7092ebd6d3ca2173075fa427ae1fffa@t eranews...

"xtra" <wi**********@hottermail.com> wrote in message
news:41******************@news.xtra.co.nz...
Hi Folk

I looked at the Northwind Sample Database for the first time recently and I
was just wondering why they made it so ugly. If northwind is supposed to be
inspiring to young and hopeful access programmers then why does it look
straight out of an 1984 slapstick? MS Corp surely must have a couple of
capable designers to make things look pretty. Did I offend anyone? It is just my opinion, i may be wrong so do not take it personally ... I live on a
windswept, God-forgotten island in the roaring fourties.

What is your opinion on this?

- Nicolaas
Practically everything I know about Access I learned from studying the
Northwind demo. In my opinion it's one of the best examples of a
full-function Access database ever made, although I don't know about the
latest versions because I only use Access 97. Most of my databases begin

as a copy of the Northwind demo and then I modify the demo to suit my client's needs.

Ok, so you are saying that it is not really about the look and feel, but
about the concepts in northwind. Fair enough, but then I use MS Access
mainly because you can so super fast develop a front end and front-ends are
all about the look and feel.

I work with Access 2003, but it just looks like it was created in 83.
Should I conclude that MS does not really care about Access?

Nicolaas
Nov 13 '05 #6
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:01:36 -0600, "Larry Linson" <no****@nospam.net>
wrote:

Posted via teranews, a known anonymizer.
Donny's probably not taken his medication.

-Tom.


"xtra" <wi**********@hottermail.com> wrote in message
news:41******************@news.xtra.co.nz...
Hi Folk

I looked at the Northwind Sample Database for the first time recently and
I
was just wondering why they made it so ugly. If northwind is supposed to
be
inspiring to young and hopeful access programmers then why does it look
straight out of an 1984 slapstick? MS Corp surely must have a couple of
capable designers to make things look pretty. Did I offend anyone? It is
just my opinion, i may be wrong so do not take it personally ... I live on
a
windswept, God-forgotten island in the roaring fourties.

What is your opinion on this?

- Nicolaas

Practically everything I know about Access I learned from studying the
Northwind demo. In my opinion it's one of the best examples of a
full-function Access database ever made, although I don't know about the
latest versions because I only use Access 97. Most of my databases begin as
a copy of the Northwind demo and then I modify the demo to suit my client's
needs.


Nov 13 '05 #7
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in
news:Hc9qe.27263$KQ2.18669@trnddc08:
Don's apparently got a lot of time on his hands, again, to bother
impersonating me. I was wondering where he'd been, lately.
Creating databases from scratch is 'way too much fun for me to
follow his path.


I was assuming the OP was Don, too, so Don is talking to himself
again.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 13 '05 #8
Well, Larry, I have to say I'm relieved to hear this. My jaw was hanging
down. Glad it wasn't you! :-)

"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:Hc9qe.27263$KQ2.18669@trnddc08...
Don's apparently got a lot of time on his hands, again, to bother
impersonating me. I was wondering where he'd been, lately. Creating
databases from scratch is 'way too much fun for me to follow his path.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

Jan 28 '06 #9

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