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Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?

If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?

Thanks!

magmike

Oct 12 '07 #1
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:34:26 -0000, magmike <ma******@yahoo .com>
wrote:

If you haven't done anything else with the db, a data recovery service
may still be able to get it back for you. Of course you can recover it
from last night's backup as well.

Sounds like you violated rule #1 of database design, and did not have
referential integrity enforcement selected in the table relationships.
That would have prevented the accidental delete. Fix that!

Yes, you can create an append query and specify the value of your ID
field.

-Tom.
>Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?

If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?

Thanks!

magmike
Oct 12 '07 #2
got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?

If I had referential integrity setup (i'll need to research that),
what would have happened when I selected Delete Record?

mike

On Oct 12, 10:01 am, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:34:26 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:

If you haven't done anything else with the db, a data recovery service
may still be able to get it back for you. Of course you can recover it
from last night's backup as well.

Sounds like you violated rule #1 of database design, and did not have
referential integrity enforcement selected in the table relationships.
That would have prevented the accidental delete. Fix that!

Yes, you can create an append query and specify the value of your ID
field.

-Tom.
Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?
If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?
Thanks!
magmike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?

Oct 12 '07 #3
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:55:24 -0000, magmike <ma******@yahoo .com>
wrote:

INSERT INTO SomeTable ( ID, SomeOtherField )
SELECT [Give ID:] AS Expr1, [Give SomeOtherField:] AS Expr2;

It would have said "Yo! Can't do that. There are related records in
other tables."
Just try it for yourself.

-Tom.
>got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?

If I had referential integrity setup (i'll need to research that),
what would have happened when I selected Delete Record?

mike

On Oct 12, 10:01 am, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:34:26 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:

If you haven't done anything else with the db, a data recovery service
may still be able to get it back for you. Of course you can recover it
from last night's backup as well.

Sounds like you violated rule #1 of database design, and did not have
referential integrity enforcement selected in the table relationships.
That would have prevented the accidental delete. Fix that!

Yes, you can create an append query and specify the value of your ID
field.

-Tom.
>Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?
>If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?
>Thanks!
>magmike- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?
Oct 13 '07 #4
On Oct 12, 9:27 pm, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:55:24 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:

INSERT INTO SomeTable ( ID, SomeOtherField )
SELECT [Give ID:] AS Expr1, [Give SomeOtherField:] AS Expr2;

It would have said "Yo! Can't do that. There are related records in
other tables."
Just try it for yourself.

-Tom.
got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?
If I had referential integrity setup (i'll need to research that),
what would have happened when I selected Delete Record?
mike
On Oct 12, 10:01 am, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:34:26 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:
If you haven't done anything else with the db, a data recovery service
may still be able to get it back for you. Of course you can recover it
from last night's backup as well.
Sounds like you violated rule #1 of database design, and did not have
referential integrity enforcement selected in the table relationships.
That would have prevented the accidental delete. Fix that!
Yes, you can create an append query and specify the value of your ID
field.
-Tom.
Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?
If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?
Thanks!
magmike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
How could I change the ID (autonumber) of a current record?
Oct 19 '07 #5
On Oct 12, 9:27 pm, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:55:24 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:

INSERT INTO SomeTable ( ID, SomeOtherField )
SELECT [Give ID:] AS Expr1, [Give SomeOtherField:] AS Expr2;

It would have said "Yo! Can't do that. There are related records in
other tables."
Just try it for yourself.

-Tom.
got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?
If I had referential integrity setup (i'll need to research that),
what would have happened when I selected Delete Record?
mike
On Oct 12, 10:01 am, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:34:26 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:
If you haven't done anything else with the db, a data recovery service
may still be able to get it back for you. Of course you can recover it
from last night's backup as well.
Sounds like you violated rule #1 of database design, and did not have
referential integrity enforcement selected in the table relationships.
That would have prevented the accidental delete. Fix that!
Yes, you can create an append query and specify the value of your ID
field.
-Tom.
Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?
If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?
Thanks!
magmike- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
What kind of WHERE statement could I use in the append query, to use a
current record, and change it's autonumber to a different (not already
existing) one?

Oct 19 '07 #6
On Oct 19, 12:18 pm, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .comwrote:
On Oct 12, 9:27 pm, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:


On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:55:24 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
wrote:
INSERT INTO SomeTable ( ID, SomeOtherField )
SELECT [Give ID:] AS Expr1, [Give SomeOtherField:] AS Expr2;
It would have said "Yo! Can't do that. There are related records in
other tables."
Just try it for yourself.
-Tom.
>got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?
>If I had referential integrity setup (i'll need to research that),
>what would have happened when I selected Delete Record?
>mike
>On Oct 12, 10:01 am, Tom van Stiphout <no.spam.tom7.. .@cox.netwrote:
>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:34:26 -0000, magmike <magmi...@yahoo .com>
>wrote:
>If you haven't done anything else with the db, a data recovery service
>may still be able to get it back for you. Of course you can recover it
>from last night's backup as well.
>Sounds like you violated rule #1 of database design, and did not have
>referential integrity enforcement selected in the table relationships.
>That would have prevented the accidental delete. Fix that!
>Yes, you can create an append query and specify the value of your ID
>field.
>-Tom.
>Accidentally deleted a record. Anyway to get it back?
>If not, I know the ID number - which is an autonumber field. Because
>of the related data from other tables, would I be able to create a new
>record and make its ID number, that of the deleted record?
>Thanks!
>magmike- Hide quoted text -
>- Show quoted text -
>got an example of the append query for changing the ID #?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

What kind of WHERE statement could I use in the append query, to use a
current record, and change it's autonumber to a different (not already
existing) one?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
If you are using an autonumber field for ANYTHING meaningful in your
data structure you are messing up BIG time. Autonumber is NOT
designed to be a 'record number' or ANY meaningful what so ever. It
is ONLY used as a way to INTERANLLY identify a unique record. You
should NOT use autonumber to be things such as Record Number, PO
Number, Item Number, etc. It sounds like you are doing something of
the sort.

Oct 19 '07 #7
On Oct 21, 1:10 am, "Larry Linson" <boun...@localh ost.notwrote:
Also, if you start to create a new
record and cancel it, that number will be "lost and gone forever like
Clementine of song and story"
Khalil Gibran wrote a poem about autonumbers.
I try to keep its theme in mind when working with them:

Your autonumbers are not your autonumbers.
They are the sons and daughters of Data's longing for uniqueness.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.

Oct 21 '07 #8
"lyle" <ly************ @gmail.comwrote
Khalil Gibran wrote a poem about autonumbers.
I try to keep its theme in mind when working with them:

Your autonumbers are not your autonumbers.
They are the sons and daughters of Data's longing for uniqueness.
They come through you but not from you,
And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you.
Very perceptive, that Khalil.
Oct 22 '07 #9
"DavidB" <je***@yahoo.co mwrote
EXACTLY the reason that I always use RANDOM
for my autonumebr fields rather than sequential. This
way I am rid of even the appearance that the numbers
'mean' anything.
Appearance to whom? Surely not to the users... the occasion would truly be
a rare one for me to expose an Autonumber field. They are for internal use,
surrogate keys, and linking and none of those functions requires the user to
see them.

It's not neccessarily, always true, but it is a reasonable assumption that
after paying my rate, a client will likely get a competent contractor to
follow me, and a competent Access contractor should know that Autonumber
fields have no intrinsic meaning.

And, I certainly don't need a reminder. My first encounter with a client's
high-tempered-green-eyeshade-and-sleeve-garter accounting/bookkeeping type
over missing numbers in a sequence of AutoNumbers was quite enough to
impress on my memory forever: even if you think the person is knowledgeable
and won't be misled, you can and should avoid showing them Autonumbers.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
Oct 23 '07 #10

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