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A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?
Paul
Dec 8 '06 #1
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"Paul H" <pa**@nospam.co mwrote in message
news:Jq******** *************** *******@eclipse .net.uk...
>A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you
go, it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?
Paul
I don't believe that it's possible unless you can demonstrate beyond
reasonable doubt that all of your code is original and that all of your
schema is too. Lots of developers use other people's code, from snippets to
huge chunks - well I do at any rate and it's all credited where possible.
I've used lots of suggestions and solutions posted here, haven't you? Also,
what would happen if you wanted to used some of your original code in
another application? Would you have to license it from your client? I
don't see how it could work.

Just my 2p worth.

Keith.
Dec 8 '06 #2
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:45:15 -0000, "Paul H" <pa**@nospam.co mwrote:

I like Allen's idea of just having a conversation with him about it.
In our company the transfer of all rights is a given: once the project
is done and the bills are paid, the source code becomes the client's.
They paid for custom software; they get the source code for that.
Next client will want a different piece of software to make his own.

-Tom.

>A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?
Paul
Dec 8 '06 #3
Paul H wrote:
A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?

Paul
"all intellectual property rights related to the database" !!!!!?????

Could you ask him for me, please, if I will still be able to use

"Dim strSomething as String"

freely?

and if not, what the charge or royalty is likely to be?

Dec 8 '06 #4
Lyle,
As the world copyright holder of ...
"Dim strSomething as String"

.... I can confirm that you have a royalty free licence to use it in your
code, of course...
"strSomethi ng = ..."

.... attracts our usual charge of 1000 UK pounds per character.

--

Terry Kreft
"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@ aim.comwrote in message
news:11******** **************@ 79g2000cws.goog legroups.com...
Paul H wrote:
A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue
to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property
rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you
go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a
"reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?

Paul

"all intellectual property rights related to the database" !!!!!?????

Could you ask him for me, please, if I will still be able to use

"Dim strSomething as String"

freely?

and if not, what the charge or royalty is likely to be?

Dec 8 '06 #5
Lyle Fairfield wrote:
Paul H wrote:
>A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?

Paul

"all intellectual property rights related to the database" !!!!!?????

Could you ask him for me, please, if I will still be able to use

"Dim strSomething as String"

freely?

and if not, what the charge or royalty is likely to be?
It would seem to me that such rights would have a large value. I
suggest you agree to sell them to him for $100,000.

ONce he gets up off the floor, you might ask him what he is trying to
accomplish and/or what he wants to restrict you from doing.

Bob
Dec 8 '06 #6
I would try to understand why he wants to do this. Odds are pretty
good that he's trying to "get a leg up" as they say, and cut you out of
the loop for a reason.

I would also try to convey the difference between owning the database
and owning the code, and that certain code is universally used and thus
can't be bought or sold. He can own the concept of how to get from A
to B and what happens once you get to B, but he can't necessarily own
the code used to get there.

My guess is that he just wants to be able to use his own guy to edit
the database without you pulling the plug on it because of rights
issues. It's sort of like a buy-out price for your services. But I
would ask him to be totally honest with you so you understand what's
going on. You don't want to end up like that guy at SCP who sold the
rights for DOS to Bill Gates...

Paul H wrote:
A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?
Paul
Dec 8 '06 #7

Paul H wrote:
A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you go,
it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?
Paul
-->Kill him and let Allah sort him out.

Dec 8 '06 #8
Thanks to everyone who replied.

As was suggested, I have asked the client exactly what they want and why. I
have a sneaky feeling I wont get an answer.

I see now why we sometimes need lawyers.

:O)

Paul
Dec 8 '06 #9
I wrote an access database for a client after having them sign an agreement
that the source MDB version would remain my property. They get the MDE
version and any enhancements have to be done by me.

Its possible that they want to do enhancements to it by using an inhouse
coder or contractor without having to ask you.
It depends how big your database is and how important it is to the clients
business. they may offer you a fee to release it to them..

If its a small application, then its probably better for your relationship,
and a lot less hassle to give it to them making sure you have no further
liability for it.

If its a core system for them, then hang onto it as they will likely offer
you some dosh.
"Paul H" <pa**@nospam.co mwrote in message
news:Jq******** *************** *******@eclipse .net.uk...
>A client that I developed a database for about 5 years ago and continue to
do annual updates for has just requested "all intellectual property rights
related to the database". I believe he just wnat me to say "OK, here you
go, it's yours"

I have never come across this particular situation. We have a "reasonably "
good relationship. What should I do?
Paul

Dec 8 '06 #10

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