VB.NET Deployment - Checking for user-modified files

[Juggler]

Hi all

I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build quotes for installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've included a blank Access database. I've provided them with an interface where they can add their own clients to the database

When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't want the installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank one again. How can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been modified, and if so, not to overwrite it

Many thanks

Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) net

[SStory]

Well, I assume you are upgrading using a setup in vb.net 2003?

If so isn't there a property for the file whatever.mdb to not overwrite?

Of course from within VB.NET you have the system.io.fileinfo class to get
information on files... but that doesn't seem that it would do much good as
far as setup goes.

Check to see if you can't highlight the .MDB file in the setup and click
properties and set to not overwrite. don't have the IDE open at present but
that is where I would look.

HTH,

Shane

"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi all,

I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build quotes for installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've included a blank
Access database. I've provided them with an interface where they can add
their own clients to the database.
When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't want the installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank one again. How
can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been modified, and if so,
not to overwrite it?
Many thanks,

Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) net

[Juggler]

I'm using vb.net 2002

When I go to the File System Editor, highlight the file and select properties, I have the option to adjust

- Condition (seems to only check version/processor info on the computer being installed on
- Exclude (blanket exclude from installation
- Folder (where to install it
- Hidden (is it a hidden file
- PackageAs (not sure what this is for
- Permenent (whether or not to leave it during uninstallation
- ReadOnly (read only
- SharedLegacyFile (this might be it, but I don't really know what the help text is talking about
- SourcePath (file location
- System (is it a system file?
- TargetName (name of file
- Transitive (whether or not the installer should reevaluate the Condition property each installation
- Vital (whether a file is vital for installation or not

There must be an answer out there. It's like saving a user's preferences from version to version. Each time I release a new version of the program, I don't want the users to have to re-enter their info. I can work around the installation problem with preferences by using a text file for the user's preferences. When the program loads the splash screen, I check for the existance of the preferences text file. If it's not there, I can display a window to the user that asks for their preferences information (name, whether they want to print in color, etc.), and then write a text file

Thanks for any help that can be provided

Juggler (@)at sonic (.) ne

----- SStory wrote: ----

Well, I assume you are upgrading using a setup in vb.net 2003

If so isn't there a property for the file whatever.mdb to not overwrite

Of course from within VB.NET you have the system.io.fileinfo class to ge
information on files... but that doesn't seem that it would do much good a
far as setup goes

Check to see if you can't highlight the .MDB file in the setup and clic
properties and set to not overwrite. don't have the IDE open at present bu
that is where I would look

HTH

Shan

"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag
news:FE**********************************@microsof t.com..

Hi all

I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build quotes fo installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've included a blan
Access database. I've provided them with an interface where they can ad
their own clients to the database When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't want th installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank one again. Ho
can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been modified, and if so
not to overwrite it Many thanks
Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) ne

[Ot]

In a similar situation, I did not deliver the default data as part of the
application, but instead built it from the application itself when it did
not exist. That is, the application itself checks for data existing and
builds the default template that way. You could include the default data
as an embedded resource and create it where you want when you want.
"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4F**********************************@microsof t.com...

I'm using vb.net 2002.

When I go to the File System Editor, highlight the file and select properties, I have the option to adjust:
- Condition (seems to only check version/processor info on the computer being installed on) - Exclude (blanket exclude from installation)
- Folder (where to install it)
- Hidden (is it a hidden file)
- PackageAs (not sure what this is for)
- Permenent (whether or not to leave it during uninstallation)
- ReadOnly (read only)
- SharedLegacyFile (this might be it, but I don't really know what the help text is talking about) - SourcePath (file location)
- System (is it a system file?)
- TargetName (name of file)
- Transitive (whether or not the installer should reevaluate the Condition property each installation) - Vital (whether a file is vital for installation or not)

There must be an answer out there. It's like saving a user's preferences from version to version. Each time I release a new version of the program,
I don't want the users to have to re-enter their info. I can work around
the installation problem with preferences by using a text file for the
user's preferences. When the program loads the splash screen, I check for
the existance of the preferences text file. If it's not there, I can
display a window to the user that asks for their preferences information
(name, whether they want to print in color, etc.), and then write a text
file.
Thanks for any help that can be provided!

Juggler (@)at sonic (.) net

----- SStory wrote: -----

Well, I assume you are upgrading using a setup in vb.net 2003?

If so isn't there a property for the file whatever.mdb to not overwrite?
Of course from within VB.NET you have the system.io.fileinfo class to get information on files... but that doesn't seem that it would do much good as far as setup goes.

Check to see if you can't highlight the .MDB file in the setup and click properties and set to not overwrite. don't have the IDE open at present but that is where I would look.

HTH,

Shane

"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE**********************************@microsof t.com...

> Hi all,

>> I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build

quotes for

installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've included a blank Access database. I've provided them with an interface where they can add their own clients to the database. >> When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't

want the

installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank one again. How can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been modified, and if so, not to overwrite it? >> Many thanks,
>> Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) net

[SStory]

I like this idea best.

Throw it on the CD... Require them to insert CD first time or whatever and
your program checks to see if it is there using
the fileinfo class and then if not copies it from CD to disk..

Seems the easiest although setup may have a way.. I don't know

Shane

"Ot" <ur***@tds.invalid (use net)> wrote in message
news:%2******************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

In a similar situation, I did not deliver the default data as part of the
application, but instead built it from the application itself when it did
not exist. That is, the application itself checks for data existing and
builds the default template that way. You could include the default data
as an embedded resource and create it where you want when you want.
"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4F**********************************@microsof t.com...

I'm using vb.net 2002.

When I go to the File System Editor, highlight the file and select properties, I have the option to adjust:

- Condition (seems to only check version/processor info on the computer

being installed on)

- Exclude (blanket exclude from installation)
- Folder (where to install it)
- Hidden (is it a hidden file)
- PackageAs (not sure what this is for)
- Permenent (whether or not to leave it during uninstallation)
- ReadOnly (read only)
- SharedLegacyFile (this might be it, but I don't really know what the

help text is talking about)

- SourcePath (file location)
- System (is it a system file?)
- TargetName (name of file)
- Transitive (whether or not the installer should reevaluate the

Condition property each installation)

- Vital (whether a file is vital for installation or not)

There must be an answer out there. It's like saving a user's preferences

from version to version. Each time I release a new version of the program,
I don't want the users to have to re-enter their info. I can work around
the installation problem with preferences by using a text file for the
user's preferences. When the program loads the splash screen, I check for
the existance of the preferences text file. If it's not there, I can
display a window to the user that asks for their preferences information
(name, whether they want to print in color, etc.), and then write a text
file.

Thanks for any help that can be provided!

Juggler (@)at sonic (.) net

----- SStory wrote: -----

Well, I assume you are upgrading using a setup in vb.net 2003?

If so isn't there a property for the file whatever.mdb to not

overwrite?

Of course from within VB.NET you have the system.io.fileinfo class

to get

information on files... but that doesn't seem that it would do much

good as

far as setup goes.

Check to see if you can't highlight the .MDB file in the setup and

click

properties and set to not overwrite. don't have the IDE open at

present but

that is where I would look.

HTH,

Shane

"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FE**********************************@microsof t.com...

> Hi all,
>> I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build

quotes for

installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've included

a blank

Access database. I've provided them with an interface where they

can add

their own clients to the database.

>> When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't

want the

installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank one

again. How

can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been modified,

and if so,

not to overwrite it?

>> Many thanks,
>> Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) net

[Juggler]

I think I'm going to try including the .mdb file with the program, but in a sub-folder. The program will check to see if the .mdb file exists where it should during normal operation, and if it isn't there (i.e. they just installed the program), it will copy the .mdb file from the sub-directory and put it in the proper place before it calls it for the first time

Hopefully, it will all work out. It still seems silly that there isn't a simple setting in vb.net that checks whether or not a file has been modified since the last version update, and to leave it alone if the user has modified it.

Juggle

----- SStory wrote: ----

I like this idea best

Throw it on the CD... Require them to insert CD first time or whatever an
your program checks to see if it is there usin
the fileinfo class and then if not copies it from CD to disk.

Seems the easiest although setup may have a way.. I don't kno

Shan

"Ot" <ur***@tds.invalid (use net)> wrote in messag
news:%2******************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl..

In a similar situation, I did not deliver the default data as part of th
application, but instead built it from the application itself when it di
not exist. That is, the application itself checks for data existing an
builds the default template that way. You could include the default dat
as an embedded resource and create it where you want when you want

"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag news:4F**********************************@microsof t.com..

I'm using vb.net 2002

When I go to the File System Editor, highlight the file and selec

properties, I have the option to adjust - Condition (seems to only check version/processor info on the compute being installed on

- Exclude (blanket exclude from installation
- Folder (where to install it
- Hidden (is it a hidden file
- PackageAs (not sure what this is for
- Permenent (whether or not to leave it during uninstallation
- ReadOnly (read only
- SharedLegacyFile (this might be it, but I don't really know what th

help text is talking about

- SourcePath (file location
- System (is it a system file?
- TargetName (name of file
- Transitive (whether or not the installer should reevaluate th

Condition property each installation

- Vital (whether a file is vital for installation or not

There must be an answer out there. It's like saving a user's preference

from version to version. Each time I release a new version of the program
I don't want the users to have to re-enter their info. I can work aroun
the installation problem with preferences by using a text file for th
user's preferences. When the program loads the splash screen, I check fo
the existance of the preferences text file. If it's not there, I ca
display a window to the user that asks for their preferences informatio
(name, whether they want to print in color, etc.), and then write a tex
file Thanks for any help that can be provided
Juggler (@)at sonic (.) ne
----- SStory wrote: ----
Well, I assume you are upgrading using a setup in vb.net 2003
If so isn't there a property for the file whatever.mdb to no overwrite Of course from within VB.NET you have the system.io.fileinfo clas

to ge

information on files... but that doesn't seem that it would do muc

good a

far as setup goes

Check to see if you can't highlight the .MDB file in the setup an

clic

properties and set to not overwrite. don't have the IDE open a

present bu

that is where I would look

HTH
Shan
"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in messag

news:FE**********************************@microsof t.com...

Hi all,
I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build

quotes for

installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've included

a blank

Access database. I've provided them with an interface where they

can add

their own clients to the database.

When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't

want the

installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank one

again. How

can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been modified,

and if so,

not to overwrite it?

Many thanks,
Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) net
>>>>

[SStory]

There may be... I haven't been using it enough to do formal updates yet.
Simple updates are send them the new exe and they copy over the old one.
Pretty neat, but...

Maybe if there is a way someone at Microsoft or some other guru will respond
and tell us both.
Sorry I don't know more.

Shane

"Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:61**********************************@microsof t.com...

I think I'm going to try including the .mdb file with the program, but in a sub-folder. The program will check to see if the .mdb file exists where it
should during normal operation, and if it isn't there (i.e. they just
installed the program), it will copy the .mdb file from the sub-directory
and put it in the proper place before it calls it for the first time.
Hopefully, it will all work out. It still seems silly that there isn't a simple setting in vb.net that checks whether or not a file has been modified
since the last version update, and to leave it alone if the user has
modified it.
Juggler

----- SStory wrote: -----

I like this idea best.

Throw it on the CD... Require them to insert CD first time or whatever and your program checks to see if it is there using
the fileinfo class and then if not copies it from CD to disk..

Seems the easiest although setup may have a way.. I don't know

Shane

"Ot" <ur***@tds.invalid (use net)> wrote in message
news:%2******************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> In a similar situation, I did not deliver the default data as part of the > application, but instead built it from the application itself when it did > not exist. That is, the application itself checks for data existing and > builds the default template that way. You could include the default data > as an embedded resource and create it where you want when you want.

>>> "Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4F**********************************@microsof t.com...

>> I'm using vb.net 2002.
>>>> When I go to the File System Editor, highlight the file and select

> properties, I have the option to adjust:

>>>> - Condition (seems to only check version/processor info on the

computer > being installed on)

>> - Exclude (blanket exclude from installation)
>> - Folder (where to install it)
>> - Hidden (is it a hidden file)
>> - PackageAs (not sure what this is for)
>> - Permenent (whether or not to leave it during uninstallation)
>> - ReadOnly (read only)
>> - SharedLegacyFile (this might be it, but I don't really know what

the > help text is talking about)

>> - SourcePath (file location)
>> - System (is it a system file?)
>> - TargetName (name of file)
>> - Transitive (whether or not the installer should reevaluate the

> Condition property each installation)

>> - Vital (whether a file is vital for installation or not)
>>>> There must be an answer out there. It's like saving a user's

preferences > from version to version. Each time I release a new version of the program, > I don't want the users to have to re-enter their info. I can work around > the installation problem with preferences by using a text file for the > user's preferences. When the program loads the splash screen, I check for > the existance of the preferences text file. If it's not there, I can > display a window to the user that asks for their preferences information > (name, whether they want to print in color, etc.), and then write a text > file.

>>>> Thanks for any help that can be provided!
>>>> Juggler (@)at sonic (.) net
>>>> ----- SStory wrote: -----
>>>> Well, I assume you are upgrading using a setup in vb.net

2003? >>>> If so isn't there a property for the file whatever.mdb to not > overwrite?

>>>> Of course from within VB.NET you have the

system.io.fileinfo class > to get

>> information on files... but that doesn't seem that it would

do much > good as

>> far as setup goes.
>>>> Check to see if you can't highlight the .MDB file in the

setup and > click

>> properties and set to not overwrite. don't have the IDE open

at > present but

>> that is where I would look.
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Shane
>>>> "Juggler" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message >> news:FE**********************************@microsof t.com...
>>> Hi all,
>>>> I've written a program in VB.NET that allows the user to build

> quotes for

>> installing shower enclosures. As part of the program, I've

included > a blank

>> Access database. I've provided them with an interface where

they can

> add

>> their own clients to the database.
>>>> When the user upgrades to a newer version of my program, I don't > want the

>> installer to overwrite the Access database file with my blank

one > again. How

>> can I tell VB.NET to check to see if the file has been

modified, and

> if so,

>> not to overwrite it?
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Juggler at(@) sonic dot(.) net
>>>>>>>>