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On the page http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python3%2e0Suggestions I noticed an interesting suggestion: "These operators ≤ ≥ â‰* should be added to the language having the following meaning: <= >= != this should improve readibility (and make language more accessible to beginners).

I'm just learning about Python now and it sounds interesting. But I just read (on the Wiki page) that mainstream Python was written in C. That's what I was searching for: Python was written in what other language? See, my concern was something like: OK, if Python is so hot, then, hopefully someone is writing it in assembly language for each...

Hi, after Guido's pronouncement yesterday, in one of the next versions of Python there will be a conditional expression with the following syntax: X if C else Y which is the same as today's (Y, X)

Here are some thoughts on reorganizing Python's documentation, with one big suggestion. The tutorial seems to be in pretty good shape because Raymond Hettinger has been keeping it up to date. It doesn't cover everything, but it's a solid introduction, and if people don't find it works for them, they have lots of alternative books. No...

Yes, silly question, but it keeps me up at night. :) I know it comes from the suffix -tuple, which makes me think it's pronounced as 'toople', but I've seen (at m-w.com) that the first pronunciation option is 'tuhple', so I wasn't sure. Maybe it's both, but which is most prevalent? Thanks! Now time to go back to reading the chapter on...

Criticism versus Constructive Criticism Xah Lee, 2003-01 A lot intelligent people are rather confused about criticism, especially in our “free-speech� free-for-all internet age. When they say “constructive criticisms are welcome� they mostly mean “bitching and complaints not welcome�. Rarely do people actually mean that...

I'd like to use multiple CPU cores for selected time consuming Python computations (incl. numpy/scipy) in a frictionless manner. Interprocess communication is tedious and out of question, so I thought about simply using a more Python interpreter instances (Py_NewInterpreter) with extra GIL in the same process. I expect to be able to directly...

This is part of a series examining the strengths and weaknesses of various scripting languages, with particular attention to enterprise (read: big company) use. You Used Python to Write WHAT? Python is a powerful, easy-to-use scripting language suitable for use in the enterprise, although it is not right for absolutely every use. Python...

Hi guys, I'm a little worried about the expected disappearance of lambda in python3000. I've had my brain badly broken by functional programming in the past, and I would hate to see things suddenly become harder than they need to be. An example of what I mean is a quick script I wrote for doing certain actions based on a regexp, which I...

Is it possible to write purely procedural code in Python, or the OO constructs in both language and supporting libraries have got so embedded that it's impossible to avoid them? Also, is anyone aware of any scripting language that could be considered as "Python minus OO stuff"? (As you can see I'm completely new to Python and initially...

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I know there's a request for a good IDE at least once a week on the ng, but hopefully this question is a little different. I'm looking for suggestions for a good cross-platform text editor (which the features for coding, such as syntax highlighting, etc.) but not a full IDE with all the fancy jazz (GUI developer, UML diagrams, etc.). ...

Coming from a C++ / C# background, the lack of emphasis on private data seems weird to me. I've often found wrapping private data useful to prevent bugs and enforce error checking.. It appears to me (perhaps wrongly) that Python prefers to leave class data public. What is the logic behind that choice? Thanks any insight.

hi can we hide a python code ? if i want to write a commercial software can i hide my source code from users access ? we can conver it to pyc but this file can decompiled ... so ...!! do you have any idea about this ...? --------------------------------------- First Iranian Open Source Community : www.python.ir

I have been reading a book about the evolution of the Basic programming language. The author states that Basic - particularly Microsoft's version is full of compromises which crept in along the language's 30+ year evolution. What to you think python largest compromises are? The three that come to my mind are significant whitespace,...

Ok, seems like we have @decorators. It's a nice tribute to Intercal. But I'd prefer #decorators. We have metaclasses for pleasure brain-melting. We have generators, new-style classes and old-style classes. Lambdas are wonderful. We do need real interfaces, not abused classes. Python still needs to have inlined functions, macros and...

Hi. I am interested in learning a new programming language, and have been debating whether to learn Ruby or Python. How do these compare and contrast with one another, and what advantages does one language provide over the other? I would like to consider as many opinions as I can on this matter before I start studying either language in depth....

I know that the standard idioms for clearing a list are: (1) mylist = (2) del mylist I guess I'm not in the "slicing frame of mind", as someone put it, but can someone explain what the difference is between these and: (3) mylist =

Hi: From what I've read of OOP, I don't get it. I have also found some articles profoundly critical of OOP. I tend to relate to these articles. However, those articles were no more objective than the descriptions of OOP I've read in making a case. Ie., what objective data/studies/research indicates that a particular problem can be...

> > Other surprises: Deprecating reload() >Reload doesn't work the way most people think >it does: if you've got any references to the old module, >they stay around. They aren't replaced. >It was a good idea, but the implementation simply >doesn't do what the idea promises. I agree that it does not really work as most people think it...

The J2 proposal is as complete as it will ever be. http://www.aminus.org/rbre/python/pydec.html The patch is nearly complete; only the __future__ declaration and some document tweaks remain. It should be updated on SourceForge today or tomorrow. This is a call for all who wish to sign the proposal, either for, against, or abstaining....

Hello, def test(data): i = ? This is the line I have trouble with if i==1: return data else: return data a,b,c,d = test()

It seems that the distinction between tuples and lists has slowly been fading away. What we call "tuple unpacking" works fine with lists on either side of the assignment, and iterators on the values side. IIRC, "apply" used to require that the second argument be a tuple; it now accepts sequences, and has been depreciated in favor of *args,...

Is there any specific reason for not using MinGW to build the official distribution of Python for Win32? A quick Google search did not reveal the answer to my question. If a link is available, please post it. Best Regards, Srijit

Probably just me. I've only been using Access and SQL Server for 12 years, so I'm sure my opinions don't count for anything. I was, nevertheless, looking forward to Sqlite3. And now that gmpy has been upgraded, I can go ahead and install Python 2.5. So I open the manual to Section 13.13 where I find the first example of how to use...