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Which prgram do I need to buy?

I am BY NO MEANS a developer or a programmer... I just do tech
purchases for a school system.

A teacher wants about 20 licensse for the following program (He said he
got this info from the 'About' screen info):

Microsoft Visual Basic.Net

Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1

Microsoft Development Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088

So, do I just walk up to my friendly software reseller and say "Hi, I
want you to sell me 20 licenses of Microsoft Visual Basic.Net,
Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1, Microsoft Development
Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088" ?

Im sure id get a befuddled look if I did this...

thanks all, sorry for the dumb question...
Jazz Mann

Nov 17 '05 #1
13 1297
You need 20 licenses for Visual Basic .NET 2003

Though you might wanna buy 20 licenses of Visual Basic .NET 2005 (if you can
wait till Nov 7th)

On a different note, it's a little sad that schools teach VB :-(

--
Regards,
Nish [VC++ MVP]
<jb****@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
I am BY NO MEANS a developer or a programmer... I just do tech
purchases for a school system.

A teacher wants about 20 licensse for the following program (He said he
got this info from the 'About' screen info):

Microsoft Visual Basic.Net

Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1

Microsoft Development Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088

So, do I just walk up to my friendly software reseller and say "Hi, I
want you to sell me 20 licenses of Microsoft Visual Basic.Net,
Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1, Microsoft Development
Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088" ?

Im sure id get a befuddled look if I did this...

thanks all, sorry for the dumb question...
Jazz Mann

Nov 17 '05 #2
I dont make up the cirriculum, so cant tell you why they teach it, nor
can I tell you why that would be considered 'sad'.

thank you for your information... someone on another newsgroup that
that product is "unpurchase-able" though... what say ye?

Nov 17 '05 #3
VB 2005 is not publicly released yet - the product launch is on Nov 7th
2005.

So, if you want to order it before that, go to
http://msdn.microsoft.com/howtobuy/vbasic/

--
Regards,
Nish [VC++ MVP]
<jb****@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
I dont make up the cirriculum, so cant tell you why they teach it, nor
can I tell you why that would be considered 'sad'.

thank you for your information... someone on another newsgroup that
that product is "unpurchase-able" though... what say ye?

Nov 17 '05 #4
For schools, consider Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition. It will be
available in 3 days.

Run this by your teacher: http://msdn.microsoft.com/VBasic/Express/

Brian
Nov 17 '05 #5
>> On a different note, it's a little sad that schools teach VB :-(

Actually, as a FIRST language, it's great for learning. As a professional
tool, it is more limited. My first language was Fortran followed by Basic
(no, not VB, nor even MS Basic, but earlier than that, think around 4K
Basic...hehe!), and I learned a lot by switching to Basic (not the least of
which was understanding the similarities in different languages). But that
was in 1969, your mileage may vary... : )

[==P==]

"Nishant Sivakumar" <ni**@nospam.asianetindia.com> wrote in message
news:u9*************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
You need 20 licenses for Visual Basic .NET 2003

Though you might wanna buy 20 licenses of Visual Basic .NET 2005 (if you
can wait till Nov 7th)

On a different note, it's a little sad that schools teach VB :-(

--
Regards,
Nish [VC++ MVP]
<jb****@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
I am BY NO MEANS a developer or a programmer... I just do tech
purchases for a school system.

A teacher wants about 20 licensse for the following program (He said he
got this info from the 'About' screen info):

Microsoft Visual Basic.Net

Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1

Microsoft Development Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088

So, do I just walk up to my friendly software reseller and say "Hi, I
want you to sell me 20 licenses of Microsoft Visual Basic.Net,
Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1, Microsoft Development
Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088" ?

Im sure id get a befuddled look if I did this...

thanks all, sorry for the dumb question...
Jazz Mann


Nov 17 '05 #6
http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/expres...c/default.aspx

http://www.ccvsoftware.com/c/index.html?s@2Q4QOlhGEDZeE

Tom

<jb****@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
I am BY NO MEANS a developer or a programmer... I just do tech
purchases for a school system.

A teacher wants about 20 licensse for the following program (He said he
got this info from the 'About' screen info):

Microsoft Visual Basic.Net

Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1

Microsoft Development Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088

So, do I just walk up to my friendly software reseller and say "Hi, I
want you to sell me 20 licenses of Microsoft Visual Basic.Net,
Microsoft. Net Framework 1.1.4322 SP1, Microsoft Development
Environment 2003 version 7.1.3088" ?

Im sure id get a befuddled look if I did this...

thanks all, sorry for the dumb question...
Jazz Mann

Nov 17 '05 #7
"Actually, as a FIRST language, it's great for learning"

then considering most of the kids are 14, 15, and 16 years old, I guess
it isn't so sad, eh?

Ill put in a suggestion to have them start out with Oracle SQL
programming in middle school for the 06 - 07 school year...

thanks for all ya'lls suggestions.

Nov 17 '05 #8
jb****@gmail.com wrote:
I am BY NO MEANS a developer or a programmer... I just do tech
purchases for a school system.

A teacher wants about 20 licensse for the following program (He said
he got this info from the 'About' screen info):

<snip>

To complete others answers, Microsoft offers specific licensing programs for
schools, academics, etc in many countries... You should contact the
Microsoft branch in your country to see what they can offer you.

Arnaud
MVP - VC
Nov 17 '05 #9
whats sad about Visual Basic? im 16 and took a VB.net course last year and
loved it, now im taking a C++ Class, teaching myself Java, soon to start C3,
and next year take J#...all this spawing from VB...so im asking u people who
kno more about it then i do...am i wasting my time with VB?
Nov 17 '05 #10
I guess the undermeaning was: better start with C#.
While VB.NET & C# have both approximatively the same capabilities, C# has
bit more...
And is leaner...
So why bother?
I guess it's because many Business have VB developer, which becames VB.NET
developer hence keep maintaining VB life.....

But try out C# you'll see why C# developer always wonder....

"iwdu15" <iw****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A3**********************************@microsof t.com...
whats sad about Visual Basic? im 16 and took a VB.net course last year and
loved it, now im taking a C++ Class, teaching myself Java, soon to start
C3,
and next year take J#...all this spawing from VB...so im asking u people
who
kno more about it then i do...am i wasting my time with VB?

Nov 17 '05 #11
Arnaud Debaene wrote:
jb****@gmail.com wrote:
I am BY NO MEANS a developer or a programmer... I just do tech
purchases for a school system.

A teacher wants about 20 licensse for the following program (He said
he got this info from the 'About' screen info):

<snip>

To complete others answers, Microsoft offers specific licensing
programs for schools, academics, etc in many countries... You should
contact the Microsoft branch in your country to see what they can
offer you.


In particular, you might want to visit

http://msdn.microsoft.com/academic/program/

to learn about joining one of Microsoft's academic programs.

-cd
Nov 17 '05 #12
> whats sad about Visual Basic? im 16 and took a VB.net course last year and
loved it, now im taking a C++ Class, teaching myself Java, soon to start C3, and next year take J#...all this spawing from VB...so im asking u people who kno more about it then i do...am i wasting my time with VB?

Historically, you could create programs much faster in VB than in any other
language.
But VB was slower, so they had to rely on components made in the other
languages.

Nowedays, VB.NET is almost the same as C# and the C++.NET managed language.
Creating a program in VB.NET or C# takes the same time to create, so there
is no more additional advance over C#.
The good news about .NET is that I can take a VB.NET assembly and use that
without problemn in C# and managed C++.
And I believe that VS 2005 even allows to have a mixture of C++,C# and VB
within the same assembly?
So creating a project where you need a lot of programmers work together
might be done each in his own prefered language.

Now in my opinion, C# comes the closest to real .NET way of programming. So
learning C# will automatically forces you to think in the new .NET
filosophy. C++ and VB programmers somehow keep stuck with the old way of
thinking, which is getting out of date very fast.

Knowing VB 6 is interesting from a carreer point of view, because one day
you will be out there and have to port VB 6 code to VB.NET or C#. But then
again, more than 50% of the (older) programers out there already know VB 6,
and not all of them are very adaptive to new technology, so you might have
to compete with a few hunderthousands of programmers that know VB better
than you will ever.

It is hard to predict what to concentrate on, just remember that evry 2-3
years you will get into a complete new software revolution and you have to
relearn the new ways and forget the old ways.
WINAPI->MFC->Winforms->XAML->??? Or DLL->COM->ActiveX->.NET
Look at ASP->ASP.NET. As a programmer if you don't evolve then you get
outdated in a 5 years or so. So be prepared to keep on learning things when
you come home from work. I still have to do this every day. But I love it.
:-)
Nov 17 '05 #13
> For schools, consider Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition. It will be
available in 3 days.

Run this by your teacher: http://msdn.microsoft.com/VBasic/Express/

And it is free and already available for download at the Microsoft MSDN site
Nov 17 '05 #14

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