whats the average age of programmers on here

[basecamp]

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[kiwikel]

45

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[John Spiegel]

35
"mnature" <mn*****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F8**********************************@microsof t.com...

Chronologically, will be 53 in a few days.
Emotionally, about 19 (according to my kids. Just because I'm addicted to
WoW)
Gender: female (I know, you didn't ask. Just letting some of you punks
know that there are a few women who got into computers before you were
born)

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[Still going]

67
Yes I am half way thru a programmers useful coding life.

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

Super Fan <ha***@win.next.year> wrote:

No, what I mean is that the average age of .net programmers is like
50.

I'm intrigued as to how you come to that conclusion, when only two
replies have suggested an age of over 50, and plenty have been
significantly under.

The average of the exact numbers given so far (i.e. not counting Cor
and JD, who haven't given actual ages) is just under 38, which I hardly
think is particularly old. It's only about half way through a normal
professional life.

I'm 28, btw, just to throw my hat into the ring.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[Mark]

43

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[Alok]

2^8 - 2^3 years young.
"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[Alok]

What was I thinking.. It should have been

2^6 - 2 ^3

Alok

"Alok" wrote:

2^8 - 2^3 years young.
"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[Okiesmokie]

I am only 17 years old, and just recently moved to .Net. I have about 5 or
6 years of C++ background :)

[hoilok]

25 here , just consider started among the pro , anyway dont seem to be much
gal on the reply

"Rachel" wrote:

42

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[Sam The Man]

16.

I am starting this hobby for programming applications for Nokia 9210
Communicator.
"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[John Spiegel]

I was wondering what your secret might be <g>
"Alok" <Al**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE**********************************@microsof t.com...

What was I thinking.. It should have been

2^6 - 2 ^3

Alok

"Alok" wrote:

2^8 - 2^3 years young.
"basecamp" wrote:

> just checking the average age of programmers using this group
> --
> thanks

[devKD1]

My theory is most Universities are teaching Java not .Net, but this may
start to change because of competition between schools. VB and ASP coders,
who may have been around for a while, feel the need to use more current
technology so they switch to .Net.

BTW I'm 40

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

Super Fan <ha***@win.next.year> wrote:

No, what I mean is that the average age of .net programmers is like
50.

I'm intrigued as to how you come to that conclusion, when only two
replies have suggested an age of over 50, and plenty have been
significantly under.

The average of the exact numbers given so far (i.e. not counting Cor
and JD, who haven't given actual ages) is just under 38, which I hardly
think is particularly old. It's only about half way through a normal
professional life.

I'm 28, btw, just to throw my hat into the ring.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[alejandro lapeyre]

AVG=34,4311927
25
33
50
33
23
39
37
42
40
28
62
57
17
15
17
52
18
15
15
67
17
40
30
24
19
19
43
23
25
14
22
18
19
31
19
48
17
55
42
28
32
47
33
43
44
33
41
46
22
35
40
26
31
47
24
45
66
17
27
36
26
16
64
41
25
18
51
50
15
19
45
23
48
57
59
70
53
18
39
64
15
35
51
42
32
23
29
57
47
20
14
48
23
39
20
53
35
36
43
16
15
42
25
27
32
45
43
56
16

[LloydSparkes]

16

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[hackman_3vilGuy]

14 and a half :)

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[hackman_3vilGuy]

You're not the youngest - I am 14 and a half :). At the moment I am using the
free beta of visual c#.
"Josh" wrote:

15 (turned it 1 month ago - I am therefore probably youngest :P)

I have a few questions which I would much appreciate being answered by you
experienced programmers.

1) Because I am young and don't have that much money I don't know what
software (e.g. compilers, graphics etc.) to buy. I want to work on computer
programming first then move onto game programming, so I was thinking of
learning c++. Do you think this is a good idea?

2) If I was to learn a certain language, what software should I get
(remember I am at a budget :P)?

3) What are the differences between the .net and standard versions of the
languages (e.g visual c++ and visual c++.net)?

Thanks guys

[Russ Howard]

Super Fan,
I can't believe someone is actually arrogant or stupid enough to make that
comment. I've been programming for 24 years. So you'd think I was late 40's,
early 50's, right? Wrong! Try 38. Started when I was 14. A lot like many of
the other people I've seen respond to this thread. .Net is the "evolution" of
MS's vision for C++, ASP, COM, etc. THAT is why you see a lot of "older"
programmers moving to it instead of Java. You're probably to young to know
this, but back in the 80's (that's 1980's, not 1880's), the industry had a
saying, which was "You don't get fired for buying Big Blue" - IBM to you
younguns.). In the 90's, the saying switched to "You don't get fired for
buying Microsoft". And that saying is still true today. You don't buck a
company that runs 85% of the world's computers and expect to stay employed
long. For many, it's simple economics. We like to eat and feed our families.
For others, it's the technology. MS is trying to do something noone else has
done before. Write it in any language, follow the transportable FCL rules,
and it will work. That's pretty neat stuff. And they're doing it a lot more
successfully than Sun did in the early days of Java with their "write once
run anywhere" philosophy. I've programmed in all the languages you mentioned
and the above reasons are why I chose .Net. Check your facts before you make
blanket statements!

Russ Howard

"Super Fan" wrote:

No, what I mean is that the average age of .net programmers is like 50.

Which makes me think that all the younger programmers use java, and .net
is just a way for old COM c++ programmers to do java.

alejandro lapeyre wrote:

so old?

I have not seen any entry above 80 yet!

Best regards,
Alejandro Lapeyre

"Super Fan" <ha***@win.next.year> escribió en el mensaje
news:8C*****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...

Why are .net programmers so /old/ anyway ?
José Joye wrote:

40

- José

"Bryan Martin" <sp**@myplaceinspace.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
Rz*******************@twister.southeast.rr.com. ..
>25
>
>"basecamp" <ba******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>news:18**********************************@micr osoft.com...
>
>
>>just checking the average age of programmers using this group
>>--
>>thanks
>
>

[Russ Howard]

Josh,
Welcome to your world! (However you want to create it) That is the beauty of
programming. You can make the computer do whatever you want and are only
limited by your imagination. Unless of course you have to work for a real
company with budgets and deadlines. then you pretty much create what your
boss tells you to or you don't stay employed long. I started programming in
1980, when I was 14,. So, I know a little of where you're coming from.
Programming has been a GREAT career for me. But, unfortunately, it's not
always as fun as it could be. However, if you keep your love of it at the
front of your mind at all times, there is far more good than bad in
programming. As for your questions, John was right on most things in his
response to you. C++ is a great way to start coding (been doing it 15 years).
Also, a lot of heavy duty hardware (video card processors and other game
hardware) are accessed through software libraries written in C++ (think
Direct X, and OpenGL). There is probably some assembler involved, too, but
there are very few programmers who do assembly programming. So, the video
library people wrapped those routines in C++ for the rest of us. As for the
differences from .net, I'm surprised noone mentioned the big one - garbage
collection. A source of many C++ bugs is either stomping on memory or trying
to use unallocated pointers (you'll understand those terms more as you get
into the language). In C++, the programmer is totally responsible for
allocating and deallocating memory. In .Net, except in the very largest of
applications, the .Net framework takes care of the majority of memory cleanup
for you. Hope this helps.

Russ Howard
"Josh" wrote:

15 (Just turned it 1 month ago)

I have a few questions which I would love to be answered by all you
experienced programmers if possible :)

1) I don't have that much money. I want to start learning computer
programming then move onto game programming. What languages and software
products do you suggest? (I was thinking of c++)

2) What are the main differences between the .net and standard languages?
(e.g. visual c++ and visual c++.net)

Thanks guys

[Nicolas Noakes]

Josh,

also, you won't find a c++.net as far as i am aware - try c# (c-sharp)

Nicolas
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!

[Nicolas Noakes]

25 and only thinking of starting .net
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!

[Russ Howard]

Nicolas,
You can make legacy Visual C++ applications .Net Framework aware so that
they "play nice" with it. Also, included in the Visual Studio .Net IDE is
Visual C++.Net. If you have VS.Net or VS.Net 2003, check your documentation.
Either that or go to amazon and do a book search on "C++ .Net". It'll list
268 results.

Russ Howard

"Nicolas Noakes" wrote:

Josh,

also, you won't find a c++.net as far as i am aware - try c# (c-sharp)

Nicolas
*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!

[hackman_3vilGuy]

I am 14 and a half and programming in c# with the new beta

"basecamp" wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group
--
thanks

[Justin]

I go to college in Indiana and they teach Java to the computer science majors
and .Net to people that simply need a few science credits.
I'm 21
Justin

"devKD1" wrote:

My theory is most Universities are teaching Java not .Net, but this may
start to change because of competition between schools. VB and ASP coders,
who may have been around for a while, feel the need to use more current
technology so they switch to .Net.

BTW I'm 40

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

Super Fan <ha***@win.next.year> wrote:

No, what I mean is that the average age of .net programmers is like
50.

I'm intrigued as to how you come to that conclusion, when only two
replies have suggested an age of over 50, and plenty have been
significantly under.

The average of the exact numbers given so far (i.e. not counting Cor
and JD, who haven't given actual ages) is just under 38, which I hardly
think is particularly old. It's only about half way through a normal
professional life.

I'm 28, btw, just to throw my hat into the ring.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[D0tN3t C0d3r]

33 here, but in my own little reality I'm 21 and still thinking that I
know everything and I will never die! ;-)

(ok ok, fine, so I'm a little scared of my own mortality, what of it?! lol)

~d

basecamp wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group

[RE: Age...]

33

ooh, and Superfan etc.
yer comments so far sound like you still believe in SuperMan!
Wake up to yourself!

"D0tN3t C0d3r" wrote:

33 here, but in my own little reality I'm 21 and still thinking that I
know everything and I will never die! ;-)

(ok ok, fine, so I'm a little scared of my own mortality, what of it?! lol)

~d

basecamp wrote:

just checking the average age of programmers using this group

[dj]

55 year old

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

Super Fan <ha***@win.next.year> wrote:

No, what I mean is that the average age of .net programmers is like
50.

I'm intrigued as to how you come to that conclusion, when only two
replies have suggested an age of over 50, and plenty have been
significantly under.

The average of the exact numbers given so far (i.e. not counting Cor
and JD, who haven't given actual ages) is just under 38, which I hardly
think is particularly old. It's only about half way through a normal
professional life.

I'm 28, btw, just to throw my hat into the ring.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

[Michael Gray]

On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:22:03 -0700, "dj"
<[e-mail]> wrote:

55 year old

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

Super Fan <ha***@win.next.year> wrote:

> No, what I mean is that the average age of .net programmers is like
> 50.

I'm intrigued as to how you come to that conclusion, when only two
replies have suggested an age of over 50, and plenty have been
significantly under.

The average of the exact numbers given so far (i.e. not counting Cor
and JD, who haven't given actual ages) is just under 38, which I hardly
think is particularly old. It's only about half way through a normal
professional life.

I'm 28, btw, just to throw my hat into the ring.

--
Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com>
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet
If replying to the group, please do not mail me too

49 yrs for me, resting here in the geriatric ward!

Michael Gray, BSc MACS MRSA
South Australia

[Michael A. Covington]

"Michael Gray" <fl****@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:li********************************@4ax.com...

49 yrs for me, resting here in the geriatric ward!

47 for me. And I spend a remarkable amount of time telling people half my
age to use newer software tools! They all want to time-travel back to 1985
or so, when the social prestige of programmers was at an all-time high.