CSS and IE7

[prec88]

why is it that Firefox adheres to CSS standards and works as expected when you program the proper CSS but IE7 still has problems? There were *html hacks for earlier versions of IE5 and 6 but there is non for IE7. I wish the CSS community could just simply kick browsers out that don't follow the rules. It's so frustrating dealing with greedy pigs like Gates who feel they can make up their own rules.

[harshmaul]

I do agree, however you have to look at the market. and its a fact 90-95 percent of those people who visit my site are IE users of some kind.

You have to adhere to standards and only choose designs which are compaitble with both browsers.

This is the vein of my life, but if everyone followed the same standard life would be boring ;)

gates created that certain excitement in the same way its exciting to stand in front of a speeding train.

[Death Slaught]

IE7 still has problems because it is 10 years behind web standards, and glitchy.

I'm not sure if it's just ignorance or stupidity. IE makes web developing extremely difficult if you don't have experience with working around IE's 'problems'. For some reason Microsoft just refuses to become standard complient. IE isn't just a non-standard browser when it comes to programming in HTML/CSS, it also is a pain when it comes to JavaScript for quite a few of the same reasons. I'm sure this also applies for other langauges as well.

I really wish that this would go through.

Bottom line IE sucks it's a horrible browser ingeneral compared to browsers like FF, Opera, or any browser.

Thanks, Death

PS - I can't wait to see drhowarddrfines reply this is his favorite subject... :)

[prec88]

You have got to be kidding??

I do agree, however you have to look at the market. and its a fact 90-95 percent of those people who visit my site are IE users of some kind.

You have to adhere to standards and only choose designs which are compaitble with both browsers.

This is the vein of my life, but if everyone followed the same standard life would be boring ;)

gates created that certain excitement in the same way its exciting to stand in front of a speeding train.

[prec88]

Is there somewhere on the net that we as designers can complain about Microsoft xxxxing things up for everyone? I would like to submit my name. I have been using Microsoft Office for years. I teach it. I hate it. It has more bugs, except for Excel, than the Amazon jungle.

IE7 still has problems because it is 10 years behind web standards, and glitchy.

I'm not sure if it's just ignorance or stupidity. IE makes web developing extremely difficult if you don't have experience with working around IE's 'problems'. For some reason Microsoft just refuses to become standard complient. IE isn't just a non-standard browser when it comes to programming in HTML/CSS, it also is a pain when it comes to JavaScript for quite a few of the same reasons. I'm sure this also applies for other langauges as well.

I really wish that this would go through.

Bottom line IE sucks it's a horrible browser ingeneral compared to browsers like FF, Opera, or any browser.

Thanks, Death

PS - I can't wait to see drhowarddrfines reply this is his favorite subject... :)

[drhowarddrfine]

Is there somewhere on the net that we as designers can complain about Microsoft xxxxing things up for everyone?

You could try the IEBlog but the IE Team only posts there and rarely reads it or responds to the posts. You could also try lead IE Architect Chris Wilson's blog where he sometimes responds. Just be wary of his posts because he does a good job with words of no substance.