mailto & display name issue

[mike_solomon]

Hi

I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

<button onClick="location.href='mailto:[e-mail]?subject=tes t subject'" >
Select</button>

Works fine

But I want to include a display name

Usually the syntax for a display name is

"display name" <[e-mail]>

But trying to use that in HTML doesnt work

Any ideas how I can do this?

Thanks

[Andreas Prilop]

On 21 Jul 2006 mi**********@lineone.net wrote:

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The innocents abroad.

I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

I don't believe that!

<button onClick="location.href='mailto:[e-mail]?subject=tes t subject'" >
Select</button>

Works fine

I don't believe that!

But I want to include a display name
"display name" <[e-mail]>

<a href="mailto:jo******@example.invalid%20(John%20Do e)">

[Dan]

mi**********@lineone.net wrote:

I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

Only for people with the bad taste to have made Outhouse their default
mail program. It may open up a different mail client, use a built-in
mailer in the user's browser, or do nothing at all for other people
depending on what programs they are using and how they have configured
them.

<button onClick="location.href='mailto:[e-mail]?subject=tes t subject'" >
Select</button>

That's poor syntax; spaces aren't officially allowed in URLs, though
some software is forgiving of this. You should encode the space as
%20. Also, it would be more widely accessible to use a normal
hyperlink instead of a button element requiring client scripting
support.

Works fine

For some users in some situations.

But I want to include a display name

Usually the syntax for a display name is

"display name" <[e-mail]>

The spaces, quotes, and angle brackets would have to be encoded as the
percent-sign equivalents (with hexadecimal character codes).

--
Dan

[Andy Mabbett]

In message <11**********************@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>, Dan
<da*@tobias.namewrites

>
mi**********@lineone.net wrote:

>I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

Only for people with the bad taste to have made Outhouse their default
mail program.

Outlook can also be installed by a person's employer - which can hardly
be said to be "bad taste" on the part of that individual.

Besides, Outlook isn't as bad as some mail clients - it's certainly
better than Outlook Express, for instance.
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[Jack]

Andy Mabbett wrote:

In message <11**********************@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups .com>,
Dan <da*@tobias.namewrites

>mi**********@lineone.net wrote:

>>I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

Only for people with the bad taste to have made Outhouse their
default mail program.

Outlook can also be installed by a person's employer - which can
hardly be said to be "bad taste" on the part of that individual.

Besides, Outlook isn't as bad as some mail clients - it's certainly
better than Outlook Express, for instance.

Major difference: Outlook isn't a real internet mail client. Outlook
Express is. So (for example) Outlook makes it impossible to get a
reliable copy of the source of an email message; it munges the headers
in the process of storing internet mail, and if you want to see them, it
has to reconstitute them.

Outlook is really groupware client, with internet mail included as an
afterthought.
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http://www.jackpot.uk.net/

[bill]

mi**********@lineone.net wrote:

Hi

I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

<button onClick="location.href='mailto:[e-mail]?subject=tes t subject'" >
Select</button>

Works fine

But I want to include a display name

Usually the syntax for a display name is

"display name" <[e-mail]>

But trying to use that in HTML doesnt work

Any ideas how I can do this?

Thanks

If I may take you off on an entirely different direction:
putting a plaintext email address on a web page is just begging
for spam. there are ways of cloaking your email addy so that
most bots will not recognize it as an email address.

If you want more, just ask.

[John Dunlop]

bill:

putting a plaintext email address on a web page is just begging
for spam.

don't think so.

there are ways of cloaking your email addy so that
most bots will not recognize it as an email address.

the more you obfuscate it, the harder it is for genuine people.

obhtml, the problem here, as i see it, is *not* putting the address on
the page, but hiding it behind a button that may or may not do
something.

even with a href=mailto i'd have the address - unmunged, uncloaked - as
the link text.

--
Jock

[mjs]

Dan wrote:

mi**********@lineone.net wrote:

I have a link on a website that if you click opens up outlook

Only for people with the bad taste to have made Outhouse their default
mail program. It may open up a different mail client, use a built-in
mailer in the user's browser, or do nothing at all for other people
depending on what programs they are using and how they have configured
them.

<button onClick="location.href='mailto:[e-mail]?subject=tes t subject'" >
Select</button>

That's poor syntax; spaces aren't officially allowed in URLs, though
some software is forgiving of this. You should encode the space as
%20. Also, it would be more widely accessible to use a normal
hyperlink instead of a button element requiring client scripting
support.

Works fine

For some users in some situations.

But I want to include a display name

Usually the syntax for a display name is

"display name" <[e-mail]>

The spaces, quotes, and angle brackets would have to be encoded as the
percent-sign equivalents (with hexadecimal character codes).

--
Dan

Thanks for that - encoding did the trick

[RoseW]

John Dunlop wrote:
| bill:
|
|| putting a plaintext email address on a web page is just begging
|| for spam.
|
| don't think so.
|
|| there are ways of cloaking your email addy so that
|| most bots will not recognize it as an email address.
|
| the more you obfuscate it, the harder it is for genuine people.
|
| obhtml, the problem here, as i see it, is *not* putting the address on
| the page, but hiding it behind a button that may or may not do
| something.
|
| even with a href=mailto i'd have the address - unmunged, uncloaked -
| as the link text.

I'm slipping into this topic since bill wrote ' there are ways of cloaking
your email addy so that
most bots will not recognize it as an email address.
If you want more, just ask.'

At http://www.delmarcottages.ca a javascript is in place that is connected
to a .gif
I wondered if a viewer has the browser security settings at a maximum level
or has scripting turned off what alternative code can be inserted?

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
function postage(one,two,three){
window.location = 'mailto:'+one+two+three;
}
</script>

In the body of the html page for the navigation panel the code for the
e-mail button is:

<tr>
<td align="center"><img src="../allimages/navemail.gif"alt="email link"
width="100" height="26" border="0" onmouseover="this.style.cursor='hand'"
onclick="postage('delmarcottages','@nexicom.','net ');"></td>
</tr>

RoseW

[David Stone]

In article <eN******************@nnrp.ca.mci.com!nnrp1.uunet. ca>,
"RoseW" <wd**@nshurontel.on.cawrote:

John Dunlop wrote:
| bill:
|
|| putting a plaintext email address on a web page is just begging
|| for spam.
|
| don't think so.
|
|| there are ways of cloaking your email addy so that
|| most bots will not recognize it as an email address.
|
| the more you obfuscate it, the harder it is for genuine people.
|
| obhtml, the problem here, as i see it, is *not* putting the address on
| the page, but hiding it behind a button that may or may not do
| something.
|
| even with a href=mailto i'd have the address - unmunged, uncloaked -
| as the link text.

I'm slipping into this topic since bill wrote ' there are ways of cloaking
your email addy so that
most bots will not recognize it as an email address.
If you want more, just ask.'

At http://www.delmarcottages.ca a javascript is in place that is connected
to a .gif
I wondered if a viewer has the browser security settings at a maximum level
or has scripting turned off what alternative code can be inserted?

<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
function postage(one,two,three){
window.location = 'mailto:'+one+two+three;
}
</script>

Without any kind of scripting? Forgo the mailto: tag completely
(people can copy and paste, can't they?) and, for superparanoid
mode, place the email address as a gif (with a random background
pattern to prevent automated OCR if you're super-superparanoid).

Either that, or use character entities to limit plain-text sniffing
of email addresses, e.g. &#x2e for periods, &#x40 for @, etc.
(&#x followed by the hexadecimal ASCII code - I think you can also
use octal and decimal &# entity specifiers?) That will limit
harvesting, although I doubt it will completely prevent it.

I've noticed, however, that a lot of large institutions (such as banks)
use a web form for contact rather than a mailto: link. If you decide
to go this route, just be sure NOT to use Matt's formmail perl script,
but the secure version that can be found an Sourceforge. (There is at
least one PHP version as well.) Sorry, can't find the URL right now
- I've changed computers since I last looked at that, and I haven't
migrated everything yet.

[Andrew]

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:52:19 -0400, David Stone
<no******@domain.invalidwrote:

snip>>>>>>>>>>>
If you decide

>to go this route, just be sure NOT to use Matt's formmail perl script,
but the secure version that can be found an Sourceforge. (There is at
least one PHP version as well.) Sorry, can't find the URL right now
- I've changed computers since I last looked at that, and I haven't
migrated everything yet.

Hi David,

http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/

Andrew
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http://www.andrews-corner.org/

[David Stone]

In article <r6********************************@4ax.com>,
Andrew <sorry.no.email@post_NG.comwrote:

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 07:52:19 -0400, David Stone
<no******@domain.invalidwrote:

snip>>>>>>>>>>>
If you decide

to go this route, just be sure NOT to use Matt's formmail perl script,
but the secure version that can be found an Sourceforge. (There is at
least one PHP version as well.) Sorry, can't find the URL right now
- I've changed computers since I last looked at that, and I haven't
migrated everything yet.

Hi David,

http://nms-cgi.sourceforge.net/

Andrew

Ah! I remembered the nms part, but I had forgotten the -cgi
- no wonder I couldn't find it! Thanks!