....When I say 'form' I'm talking about a conventional paper version, as
opposed to a <form>.
I'm building a web-based application which needs to be able to create
Invoices/Advice Notes/Order Acknowledgements etc... The application itself
has a largely fluid layout, but for these printed documents I need to make
them fixed, such that the printed layout is consistent. That is, they need
to look consistent on an A4 page.
Its worth noting that the printable version will be displayed in a page, but
only to be immediately printed. That is, there doesnt specifically need to
be a screen stylesheet, since the user will only print the page, rather that
look at it on-screen.
Before I start bodging my own solution, I thought I'd better do some
homework on what the best approach to take - hence I'm asking you guys!
I've googled for help, and there is plenty out there, but I'm still sorting
the wheat from the chaff. I'm also finding a few annoying things like that
there is a great @Page directive in CSS, which is all but unsupported!
Most of these forms/documents are tabular by nature, but I'm trying to
resist resorting to a tables-within-tables layout as yet.
How best do I control this layout? Do I specify a bounding block of a fixed
width? Do I use px/pt/cm/em/etc widths? How do I make sure that the content
wraps rather than stretches it's container?
It's hard to ask more specific questions because I don't know what I don't
know!
Anyway, thanks in advance...
Chris
-- cj*******@REMOVEMEyahoo.co.uk
[remove the obvious bits] 10 2494
Oops! Wrong group - reposted in c.i.w.a.s!
"CJM" <cj******@REMOVEMEyahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3a*************@individual.net... ...When I say 'form' I'm talking about a conventional paper version, as opposed to a <form>.
I'm building a web-based application which needs to be able to create Invoices/Advice Notes/Order Acknowledgements etc... The application itself has a largely fluid layout, but for these printed documents I need to make them fixed, such that the printed layout is consistent. That is, they need to look consistent on an A4 page.
Its worth noting that the printable version will be displayed in a page,
but only to be immediately printed. That is, there doesnt specifically need to be a screen stylesheet, since the user will only print the page, rather
that look at it on-screen.
Before I start bodging my own solution, I thought I'd better do some homework on what the best approach to take - hence I'm asking you guys!
I've googled for help, and there is plenty out there, but I'm still
sorting the wheat from the chaff. I'm also finding a few annoying things like that there is a great @Page directive in CSS, which is all but unsupported!
Most of these forms/documents are tabular by nature, but I'm trying to resist resorting to a tables-within-tables layout as yet.
How best do I control this layout? Do I specify a bounding block of a
fixed width? Do I use px/pt/cm/em/etc widths? How do I make sure that the
content wraps rather than stretches it's container?
It's hard to ask more specific questions because I don't know what I don't know!
Anyway, thanks in advance...
Chris
-- cj*******@REMOVEMEyahoo.co.uk [remove the obvious bits]
Looking deep into my crystal ball I see a bad experience in your future (not
from me mind you). I predict that you will soon be flamed into oblivion.
Turn back from the evil side of the force Chris before it's too late!!!
Signed,
me
PS: I too am a heretic and generally reviled here and in c.i.w.a.s because
of my preference for tables, fixed font sizes, non-fluid layout, JS and
because I use IE on Windows (did I leave something out folks?) etc etc etc.
me wrote: Looking deep into my crystal ball I see a bad experience in your future (not from me mind you). I predict that you will soon be flamed into oblivion. Turn back from the evil side of the force Chris before it's too late!!! Signed, me
PS: I too am a heretic and generally reviled here and in c.i.w.a.s because of my preference for tables, fixed font sizes, non-fluid layout, JS and because I use IE on Windows (did I leave something out folks?) etc etc etc.
Well, sometimes you have a sense of humor... <g>
--
-bts
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.*********@example.invalid> wrote in message
news:3a*************@individual.net... me wrote:
Looking deep into my crystal ball I see a bad experience in your future (not from me mind you). I predict that you will soon be flamed into oblivion. Turn back from the evil side of the force Chris before it's too late!!! Signed, me
PS: I too am a heretic and generally reviled here and in c.i.w.a.s because of my preference for tables, fixed font sizes, non-fluid layout, JS and because I use IE on Windows (did I leave something out folks?) etc etc etc.
Well, sometimes you have a sense of humor... <g>
Humor is usually (always?) based on reality.
Signed,
me
"kaeli" <ti******@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:MP************************@nntp.lucent.com... In article <11*************@corp.supernews.com>, anonymous@_.com
enlightened us with... PS: I too am a heretic and generally reviled here and in c.i.w.a.s
because of my preference for tables, fixed font sizes, non-fluid layout, JS and because I use IE on Windows (did I leave something out folks?)
Your charming personality and wit.
No hard feelings then? I won't get tirades when I give advice, at least not
from you? :-)
Signed,
me
CJM wrote: I'm building a web-based application which needs to be able to create Invoices/Advice Notes/Order Acknowledgements etc... The application itself has a largely fluid layout, but for these printed documents I need to make them fixed, such that the printed layout is consistent. That is, they need to look consistent on an A4 page.
As you've discovered, HTML - with or without CSS - isn't very well suited to
what you need to do. Instead of trying to force a square peg into a round
hole, why not simply deliver a document format that's purpose-designed for
what you want to do? PDF, for example. There are, I believe, various
server-side solutions for generating PDF documents on the fly.
sherm--
--
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
me wrote: Looking deep into my crystal ball I see a bad experience in your future (not from me mind you). I predict that you will soon be flamed into oblivion. Turn back from the evil side of the force Chris before it's too late!!! Signed, me
PS: I too am a heretic and generally reviled here and in c.i.w.a.s because of my preference for tables, fixed font sizes, non-fluid layout, JS and because I use IE on Windows (did I leave something out folks?) etc etc etc.
I share yr preference for fixed-size fonts... (pls see http://www.francesdelrio.com/fonts.html, which I posted in response to a
long thread re verdana in c.i.w.a.s....) have been reviled and cursed
at plenty for it (here and in c.i.w.a.s...)
also like to use JS, not excessively so, but I do like pop-ups..;) (I
think pop-ups opened by users are fine, and I think you can do good UI
w/them if you script them right..)
my two cents........ :)........ Frances
In article <11*************@corp.supernews.com>, anonymous@_.com enlightened
us with... Your charming personality and wit.
No hard feelings then? I won't get tirades when I give advice, at least not from you? :-)
Not from me.
I gave up on you.
It's like talking to a brick wall. Or, more accurately, banging my head real
hard against one. It gives me a headache and doesn't change a thing to make
the web more friendly for disabled users.
--
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~kaeli~
Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace
"Frances Del Rio" <fd***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a*************@individual.net... me wrote:
Looking deep into my crystal ball I see a bad experience in your future
(not from me mind you). I predict that you will soon be flamed into oblivion. Turn back from the evil side of the force Chris before it's too late!!! Signed, me
PS: I too am a heretic and generally reviled here and in c.i.w.a.s
because of my preference for tables, fixed font sizes, non-fluid layout, JS and because I use IE on Windows (did I leave something out folks?) etc etc
etc. I share yr preference for fixed-size fonts... (pls see http://www.francesdelrio.com/fonts.html, which I posted in response to a long thread re verdana in c.i.w.a.s....) have been reviled and cursed at plenty for it (here and in c.i.w.a.s...) also like to use JS, not excessively so, but I do like pop-ups..;) (I think pop-ups opened by users are fine, and I think you can do good UI w/them if you script them right..)
my two cents........ :)........ Frances
My good friend (may I call you friend?) and ally, I feel we are kindred
spirits. You're obviously a man of exceptional taste and intellect. Keep up
the good work and fight the good fight to express yourself any way you damn
well please. I like your site too!
Your Friend,
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