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Tom wrote:
Behind the scenes, the magic of that simplicity is:
...to simply place a shortcut on your desktop - calling your text editor
to load HOSTS. Then all you have to do is save after you edit, and
bypass all those extra chores you've created for yourself.
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Tom presented the following explanation :
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:54 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>Afaik the only solution is to shut the browser down and
enter its name in your HOSTS file, so you never go there again.
Hummingbird has a great answer!
Here's what I did when I went to an HTML kwiksand domain just now on
Firefox 3.0 on WinXP with JavaScript and Java enabled ('cuz you need 'em
for other pages).
1. I opened a tab to http://thecatalogfree.net with Firefox 3.0 on WinXP
2. I tried to kill the tab -the html kwiksand prevented this
3. I tried to go to a new tab -the html kwiksand prevented this
4. I tried to kill firefox -the html kwiksand prevented this
5. Rather than kill the firefox process in the task manager ...
6. I now just type Start->Run->hosts and enter the domain
127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree. net
7. I then shift-reload my browser (to flush cache)
8. Voila! A shift-reload flushes cache & dumps the kwiksand page!
Note this one-time setup:
1. Copy hosts to host.txt and to hosts.bck
2. Start->Run->Regedit to add the following key-value pair:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\M icrosoft\Window s\CurrentVersio n\App Paths
hosts.exe = c:\windows\syst em32\drivers\et c\hosts.txt
Do this every time you are caught in HTML kwiksand!
1. Go to the web page http://thecatalogfree.net
2. You'll note you are stuck on that page forever
3. Rather than control alt delete kill the Firefox browser session ...
4. Just type Start -Run -hosts
5. Enter the domain into that hosts.txt file
127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree. net
6. Write the hosts.txt file to hosts (overwriting the hosts file)
8. Quick out of your text editing session (I used vim freeware)
9. Shift Reload your browser
10. The kwiksand web page will disappear!
Woo hoo! Hummingbird found the solution to HTML kwiksand!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
For those who want another way to edit Hosts on the fly, use Hostman.
Drumstick
On 2008-07-13, hummingbird wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 20:21:19 +0000, Chris F.A. Johnson wrote in <cefb0
$4************* ********@TEKSAV VY.COM>:
>On 2008-07-13, Tom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:16:24 +0200, Hendrik Maryns wrote:
If I click on this in Firefox 3 (on Linux, but that shouldnąt make a
difference), I get a page warning that it is a scam page, with a button
ĄGet me out of here!ą.
That warning must be coming from the browser. That was an old link I gave
you (from my past experience).
What happened when you clicked on http://thecatalogfree.net (which I
verified today)?
Does http://thecatalogfree.net also give you that "get me outta'here"
warning?
No. I get:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
I had no problems with the other links you posted, even when I
ignored FF's warning about the site.
Was any file installed.
Not if I didn't tell it to.
Did any malware appear in the browser cache?
What's malware?
--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell. org>
=============== =============== =============== =============== =======
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
Tom wrote:
Behind the scenes, the magic of that simplicity is:
...to simply place a shortcut on your desktop - calling your text editor
to load HOSTS. Then all you have to do is save after you edit, and
bypass all those extra chores you've created for yourself.
--
-bts
-Friends don't let friends drive Windows
Tom presented the following explanation :
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:54 +0100, hummingbird wrote:
>Afaik the only solution is to shut the browser down and
enter its name in your HOSTS file, so you never go there again.
Hummingbird has a great answer!
Here's what I did when I went to an HTML kwiksand domain just now on
Firefox 3.0 on WinXP with JavaScript and Java enabled ('cuz you need 'em
for other pages).
1. I opened a tab to http://thecatalogfree.net with Firefox 3.0 on WinXP
2. I tried to kill the tab -the html kwiksand prevented this
3. I tried to go to a new tab -the html kwiksand prevented this
4. I tried to kill firefox -the html kwiksand prevented this
5. Rather than kill the firefox process in the task manager ...
6. I now just type Start->Run->hosts and enter the domain
127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree. net
7. I then shift-reload my browser (to flush cache)
8. Voila! A shift-reload flushes cache & dumps the kwiksand page!
Note this one-time setup:
1. Copy hosts to host.txt and to hosts.bck
2. Start->Run->Regedit to add the following key-value pair:
HKLM\SOFTWARE\M icrosoft\Window s\CurrentVersio n\App Paths
hosts.exe = c:\windows\syst em32\drivers\et c\hosts.txt
Do this every time you are caught in HTML kwiksand!
1. Go to the web page http://thecatalogfree.net
2. You'll note you are stuck on that page forever
3. Rather than control alt delete kill the Firefox browser session ...
4. Just type Start -Run -hosts
5. Enter the domain into that hosts.txt file
127.0.0.1 thecatalogfree. net
6. Write the hosts.txt file to hosts (overwriting the hosts file)
8. Quick out of your text editing session (I used vim freeware)
9. Shift Reload your browser
10. The kwiksand web page will disappear!
Woo hoo! Hummingbird found the solution to HTML kwiksand!!!!!!! !!!!!!!
For those who want another way to edit Hosts on the fly, use Hostman.
Drumstick
Tom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:52:18 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:
>Why are you jumping through all these hoops? The Windows "hosts" file
is a plain text file you can edit in Notepad.
I know, I know.
Microsoft put the c:\windows\syst em32\drivers\et c\hosts file in the most
ridiculous non-intuitive spot it could possibly find, deep in muck, deep
under large directories that take a while to load, and without a decent
extension so you have to grope for your text editor (mine is vim freeware).
So, rather than "jump thru hoops" each time just to edit the hosts file, I
add a one-time-only registry key "hosts" which opens up the TEXT file (so
that I have a backup if I need it).
When I type "Start -Run -hosts", vim opens up that
c:\windows\syst em32\drivers\et c\hosts.txt text file, where I edit and save
to "hosts" which it saves in the current directory (i.e.,
c:\windows\syst em32\drivers\et c\hosts).
That's a LOT easier than navigating deep into the windows hierarchy into
the least logical place MS could have placed the hosts file and then
fumbling around to get notepad to edit the file with no extension.
Nonsense!
You have detailed a process that does not work in my standard install of
WXP-SP3. You have further created a questionable process involving
editing the Windows Registry which is, at best, a questionable process
in and of itself, and hardly something to be posting to a newsgroup.
Further, you have not answered satisfactorily any questions of the links
you posted. And, your bizarre approach to a HOSTS file is ...
mind-blowingly stupid.
I deem this entire thread bogus at best, threatening at worst. I
encourage no one to do anything that "Tom" has recommended until he
demonstrates that he actually knows what he's doing by citing
authoritative references.
That HOSTS file and registry stuff is total nonsense and the product of
(at best) someone who has not a clue and who has been surfing and copied
suspect references.
IGNORE ALL OF THIS.
--
Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net
A budget is just a method of worrying before you spend money, as well as
afterward.
Tom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:52:18 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:
>And do a search on "hosts.exe" and you'll find things like this:
I know. I know.
Those who know the Windows registry know that, in Microsoft's infinite
wisdom, the "App Paths" key MUST end with "exe" for it to work.
There is no hosts.exe (I repeat) there is no hosts.exe.
The whole point of the App Paths key is to make the editing of hosts a
simple one-click affair.
But, Microsoft insists that ALL "Apps Paths" keys end with "exe" whether or
not the file you're trying to open ends with ".exe".
So, that's the ONLY reason the hosts App Path key is called "hosts.exe" .
Please reply if you understand this 'cuz I feel badly that this was
misunderstood by a few of you.
You do not have a freaking clue. Your entire rant about the HOSTS file
management process in Windows is ignorant at best, damaging most likely,
possibly intent on some nefarious goal.
--
Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net
There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government
working for you. - Will Rogers
Tom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:45:20 -0400, C A Upsdell wrote:
>If Windows, Ctrl Alt Delete to call up the task manager; select the
browser; kill it.
Very inelegant.
When you have a dozen tabs open, killing the browser, kills all the tabs.
When you restart Firefox, it asks if you want to open all the old tabs,
but, of course, that will just open the quicksand site all over again.
So, without editing the hosts file and shift reloading, you're forced to
say NO to reloading your old tabs ... and you lose them all.
That's why you don't kill the browser session.
Luckily we found a single-click way to solve the problem (type "start ->
run -hosts, add the offending domain, and shift reload the browser). This
turns the quicksand URL into cement. Voila! Thanks to hummingbird!
No one should pay any attention to any posts by "Tom". This is idiotic
to the max.
And, by the way, what sites are you surfing to that redirect you to
these so-called "quicksand" sites? Is this a problem for anyone else?
Or for anything less than a miniscule percentage of users? I doubt it.
Is this a problem for anyone else? I doubt it.
This entire issue is bogus as are all of the posts from "Tom"
Hey, just my opinion. But, I post in the clear with a legitimate mail
address and have done so for many years. You all can make up your own
minds. I have marked "Tom" as a troll. A potentially dangerous one at that.
--
Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net
Can you be a closet claustrophobic?
Tom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:52:18 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:
>And do a search on "hosts.exe" and you'll find things like this:
I know. I know.
Those who know the Windows registry know that, in Microsoft's infinite
wisdom, the "App Paths" key MUST end with "exe" for it to work.
There is no hosts.exe (I repeat) there is no hosts.exe.
The whole point of the App Paths key is to make the editing of hosts a
simple one-click affair.
But, Microsoft insists that ALL "Apps Paths" keys end with "exe" whether or
not the file you're trying to open ends with ".exe".
So, that's the ONLY reason the hosts App Path key is called "hosts.exe" .
Please reply if you understand this 'cuz I feel badly that this was
misunderstood by a few of you.
You do not have a freaking clue. Your entire rant about the HOSTS file
management process in Windows is ignorant at best, damaging most likely,
possibly intent on some nefarious goal.
--
Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net
There's no trick to being a humorist when you have the whole government
working for you. - Will Rogers
Tom wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 13:45:20 -0400, C A Upsdell wrote:
>If Windows, Ctrl Alt Delete to call up the task manager; select the
browser; kill it.
Very inelegant.
When you have a dozen tabs open, killing the browser, kills all the tabs.
When you restart Firefox, it asks if you want to open all the old tabs,
but, of course, that will just open the quicksand site all over again.
So, without editing the hosts file and shift reloading, you're forced to
say NO to reloading your old tabs ... and you lose them all.
That's why you don't kill the browser session.
Luckily we found a single-click way to solve the problem (type "start ->
run -hosts, add the offending domain, and shift reload the browser). This
turns the quicksand URL into cement. Voila! Thanks to hummingbird!
No one should pay any attention to any posts by "Tom". This is idiotic
to the max.
And, by the way, what sites are you surfing to that redirect you to
these so-called "quicksand" sites? Is this a problem for anyone else?
Or for anything less than a miniscule percentage of users? I doubt it.
Is this a problem for anyone else? I doubt it.
This entire issue is bogus as are all of the posts from "Tom"
Hey, just my opinion. But, I post in the clear with a legitimate mail
address and have done so for many years. You all can make up your own
minds. I have marked "Tom" as a troll. A potentially dangerous one at that.
--
Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net
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