my first 3D Multiplayer game using directplay (troubles with AppWizard's code)

[Lt]

Hello, I'm gonna write my first 3D multiplayer game using DirectPlay, VC++
..NET 2002. I've done tutorials supplied along with DXSDK Then I wanted to
use the DirectX AppWizard but it produced over 2300 lines of code! It's cool
to have prepared automatically all initializations but it's a little too
much. That's because I can't find any documentation on details HOW IT WORKS,
how I can integrate my own game code with this framework. In addition that
have prepared code to the Peer to Peer Game, and I need the Client-Server.
Should I maybe write my own simple DirectX code instead of using the
AppWizard? I've also read that there is no AppWizard in the VC++ 2003
because they found out that AppWizard isn't very helpfull to programmers.

[Phlip]

Lt wrote:

Hello, I'm gonna write my first 3D multiplayer game using DirectPlay, VC++
.NET 2002. I've done tutorials supplied along with DXSDK Then I wanted to
use the DirectX AppWizard but it produced over 2300 lines of code! It's cool to have prepared automatically all initializations but it's a little too
much. That's because I can't find any documentation on details HOW IT WORKS, how I can integrate my own game code with this framework. In addition that
have prepared code to the Peer to Peer Game, and I need the Client-Server.
Should I maybe write my own simple DirectX code instead of using the
AppWizard? I've also read that there is no AppWizard in the VC++ 2003
because they found out that AppWizard isn't very helpfull to programmers.

If you want to _design_ games, get Doom and one of its level editors.

If you want to write an engine from scratch, 2,300 lines of code is "hello
world". 3D code is an order of magnitude more complex than 2D code.

Running a wizard is never the same as learning to program.

To go forward, Google for any of the OpenGL and DirectX "game engines" that
folks have written and thrown up on the 'net. You will see that between
main() and a common first-person shooter, a game requires several megalines
of code and content. Modern game projects are as big as movies, with as many
people working on them. OpenGL and DirectX are the "assembly language" below
all their code. Most "game engines" available for free on the net are
attempts that bogged down in details.

Oh, and this newsgroup works best on questions about the C++ language
itself, not all the libraries it supports. They have their own forums, where
you'd get the best answers to go forward. Two game engines that succeeded
are CrystalSpace and ClanLib.

--
Phlip
http://industrialxp.org/community/bi...UserInterfaces

[Jacek Dziedzic]

Lt wrote:

Hello, I'm gonna write my first 3D multiplayer game using DirectPlay, VC++
.NET 2002. I've done tutorials supplied along with DXSDK Then I wanted to
use the DirectX AppWizard but it produced over 2300 lines of code! It's cool
to have prepared automatically all initializations but it's a little too
much. That's because I can't find any documentation on details HOW IT WORKS,
how I can integrate my own game code with this framework. In addition that
have prepared code to the Peer to Peer Game, and I need the Client-Server.
Should I maybe write my own simple DirectX code instead of using the
AppWizard? I've also read that there is no AppWizard in the VC++ 2003
because they found out that AppWizard isn't very helpfull to programmers.

And your C++ question is?

- J.

[Lt]

Phlip wrote:

If you want to _design_ games, get Doom and one of its level editors. No, I want to write. If you want to write an engine from scratch, 2,300 lines of code is "hello
world". 3D code is an order of magnitude more complex than 2D code. I know, I know :) And because I'm not an experienced game programmer
(although I've been programming somewhat in Direct3D) I want to start with
very simple game (but more complicated than Tetris :-) And later grow up my
code.
Running a wizard is never the same as learning to program.

Exactly.

..Lt

[Aggro]

Lt wrote:

very simple game (but more complicated than Tetris :-) And later grow up my

Tetris is not as trivial as it first might look like. Have you done
tetris ever?

[Lt]

Aggro wrote:

Tetris is not as trivial as it first might look like. Have you done
tetris ever?

Unfortunately no :(