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Caution SONY Music CDs have trojan Malware

Whether you are a web surfer or a C++ developer, if you use Windows be
cautioned about SONY music CDs. They contain 'viewer' type software that is
actually a trojan horse for a "rootkit". The licence agreement gives no
indication whatsoever that the 'viewer' software contains the implementation
of a nasty near-impossible to remove rootkit software.

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...al-rights.html

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...514209_F.shtml

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/03/secfocus_drm/

--

Beware SONY Music CDs.
They contain "viewers" that are actually
rootkit viruses that are near impossible to
remove.
http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/200...al-rights.html
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...514209_F.shtml
Nov 3 '05
87 5356
Art
On 4 Nov 2005 14:36:25 -0800, "Dustin Cook"
<bu************ **@gmail.com> wrote:
I see Sony has offered a remover:

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

The other concern I've seen has been the security vulnerability
issue, which Sony, of course, disclaims. Also, I have no idea how real
or valid this might be, but the fear is that if a user is hit with
another root kit the resulting low level conflicts will render the PC
unuseable. If this is true, it would seem we're heading for eventual
legislation banning so-called cloaking technology.


Yes. That's what bothers me. the cloaking technology per say isn't bad.
What happens if I'm using a modified copy of VNC, and It doesn't appear
in task manager? This "rootkit" nonsense would make it illegal.

Art, refresh my memory if you don't mind. Didn't we used to call
applications that hid their presence, stealth? When did this rootkit
terminology replace that?


I don't think stealth has been replaced by root kit and cloacking. The
old stealth viruses are still stealth viruses, for example. I suppose
one might consider root kits as a subset of stealth malware just as
some view worms as a subset of viruses. But that's just my impression.
I don't recall seeing a terminolgy discussion/debate on that subject
here.

Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

Nov 4 '05 #41
Dustin Cook, <bu************ **@gmail.com>, the suppositional, deviant
floorwalker, and puppeteer/marionetteer, threatened:
Callin me a liar,
tellin me I don't know shit about viruses. I've written many, I would
think I know a fucking thing or two about them. Whats the name of any
you've written, you dumb shit?


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nuclear blasts or other Acts of God are not covered; incidents owing to
aeroplane crash, ship sinking, motor vehicle accidents, leaky roof, broken
glass, falling rocks, mud slides, forest fire, flying projectiles or
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Nov 4 '05 #42
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Dustin Cook, <bu************ **@gmail.com>, the suppositional, deviant
floorwalker, and puppeteer/marionetteer, threatened:
Callin me a liar,
tellin me I don't know shit about viruses. I've written many, I would
think I know a fucking thing or two about them. Whats the name of any
you've written, you dumb shit?


Your reference number for all correspondence relating to this crime is
EAQ\E2441105. Please use this number in all future communications.

https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf4.asp

"The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between
the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White
Collar Crime Center (NW3C).

IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer
criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber
crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient and
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File a Complaint:

Please read the following paragraphs:

The information I've provided on this form is correct to the
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I understand that providing *false information* could make
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U.S. Code.)

Looks like they'll get him on that.

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Nov 4 '05 #43
relic, <co********@rel ic211.cjb.net>, the cack-handed, repugnant bull, and
puppeteer/marionetteer, bitched:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Dustin Cook, <bu************ **@gmail.com>, the suppositional, deviant
floorwalker, and puppeteer/marionetteer, threatened:
Callin me a liar,
tellin me I don't know shit about viruses. I've written many, I
would think I know a fucking thing or two about them. Whats the
name of any you've written, you dumb shit?


Your reference number for all correspondence relating to this crime
is EAQ\E2441105. Please use this number in all future communications.

https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf4.asp

"The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between
the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White
Collar Crime Center (NW3C).

IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and refer
criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of cyber
crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient and
easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of suspected
criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and regulatory
agencies at the federal, state, and local level, IC3 provides a
central referral mechanism for complaints involving Internet related
crimes."

File a Complaint:

Please read the following paragraphs:

The information I've provided on this form is correct to the
best of my knowledge.

I understand that providing *false information* could make
me subject to fine, imprisonment, or both. (Section 1001, Title 18,
U.S. Code.)

Looks like they'll get him on that.


It's worse for him than that. Someone whose word I have no reason to doubt
furnished irrefutable evidence that he's also a spammer.

--
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my ISP, myself, my company or employer, my friends (if any,) my goldfish or
my neighbour's mad dog; don't quote me on that; don't quote me on anything;
all rights reserved; the post is distribution copyrighted to the extent that
you may distribute the post and all its associated parts freely but you may
not make a profit from it or include the post in commercial publications
without written permission from the Prime Minister of Hutt Province; other
copyright laws for specific posts apply wherever noted or not noted, either
deliberately, negligently, or otherwise; posts are subject to change without
notice; posts are slightly enlarged to show detail; any resemblance to
actual persons, living or dead, is unintentional and purely coincidental;
hand wash only, tumble dry on low heat; do not bend, fold, mutilate, or
spindle; do not pass go; do not collect $200; your mileage may vary; no
substitutions allowed; for a limited time only; the post is void where
prohibited, taxed, or otherwise restricted; the post is provided "as is"
without any warranties expressed or implied; user assumes full liabilities;
not liable for damages due to use or misuse; an equal opportunity abuse
employer; no shoes, no shirt; quantities are limited while supplies last; if
defects are discovered, do not attempt to fix them yourself but return to an
authorised post service centre; caveat emptor; read at your own risk;
parental advisory - explicit words; text may contain material some readers
may find objectionable, parental guidance is advised; not suitable for
children; not suitable for adults; not for human consumption; keep away from
sunlight, pets and small children; limit one-per-family; no money down; no
purchase necessary; to approved purchasers only; facsimiles are acceptable
in South Australia; you need not be present to read this post; some assembly
required; batteries not included; action figures sold separately; no
preservatives added; tools not included; safety goggles may be required
during use; sealed for your protection, do not use if the safety seal is
broken; call before you dig; for external use only; if a rash, redness,
irritation or swelling develops, discontinue use; use only with proper
ventilation; avoid extreme temperatures and store in a cool, dry place; keep
away from open flames, naked flames and old flames; avoid inhaling fumes;
avoid contact with mucous membranes; do not puncture, incinerate, or store
above 60 degrees Centigrade; do not place near flammable or magnetic source;
smoking the post may be hazardous to your health; the best safeguard, second
only to abstinence, is the use of a good laugh; text used on the post is
made from 100% recycled electrons and magnetic particles; no animals were
used to test the hilarity of this post other than Synapse Syndrome; no salt,
MSG, artificial colour or flavour added; may contain traces of replies to
peanuts; if ingested, do not induce vomiting, if symptoms persist, consult
your humourologist; post is ribbed for your pleasure; slippery when wet;
must be 18 to read; possible penalties for early withdrawal; post offer
valid only in participating newsgroups; slightly higher in South Australia;
allow four to six weeks for delivery; damage from hurricane, lightning,
tornado, tsunami, volcanic eruption, earthquake, flood, orgasm, misuse,
self-abuse, neglect, unauthorised repair, damage from improper installation,
broken antenna, marred cabinet, incorrect line voltage, missing or altered
serial numbers, sonic boom vibrations, electromagnetic radiation from
nuclear blasts or other Acts of God are not covered; incidents owing to
aeroplane crash, ship sinking, motor vehicle accidents, leaky roof, broken
glass, falling rocks, mud slides, forest fire, flying projectiles or
dropping the item are also excluded; other restrictions may apply. If
something offends you, lighten up, get a life, and move on. All conditions
apply. Not available in all stores. Facts have been changed to protect the
guilty.

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Nov 4 '05 #44
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic, <co********@rel ic211.cjb.net>, the cack-handed, repugnant
bull, and puppeteer/marionetteer, bitched:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Dustin Cook, <bu************ **@gmail.com>, the suppositional,
deviant floorwalker, and puppeteer/marionetteer, threatened:

Callin me a liar,
tellin me I don't know shit about viruses. I've written many, I
would think I know a fucking thing or two about them. Whats the
name of any you've written, you dumb shit?

Your reference number for all correspondence relating to this crime
is EAQ\E2441105. Please use this number in all future
communications.

https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf4.asp

"The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between
the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White
Collar Crime Center (NW3C).

IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and
refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of
cyber crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient
and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of
suspected criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and
regulatory agencies at the federal, state, and local level, IC3
provides a central referral mechanism for complaints involving
Internet related crimes."

File a Complaint:

Please read the following paragraphs:

The information I've provided on this form is correct to the
best of my knowledge.

I understand that providing *false information* could make
me subject to fine, imprisonment, or both. (Section 1001, Title 18,
U.S. Code.)

Looks like they'll get him on that.


It's worse for him than that. Someone whose word I have no reason to
doubt furnished irrefutable evidence that he's also a spammer.


Well I'll be... even though I knew he was lying about his "famed" past
exploits, I didn't think him intelligent enough to send spam. At least not
without using his real mail address.

--
Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it.
That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.
Nov 5 '05 #45
relic, <co********@rel ic211.cjb.net>, the shamefaced, battered hagfish, and
employee in charge of emptying cesspools, effused:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic, <co********@rel ic211.cjb.net>, the cack-handed, repugnant
bull, and puppeteer/marionetteer, bitched:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Dustin Cook, <bu************ **@gmail.com>, the suppositional,
deviant floorwalker, and puppeteer/marionetteer, threatened:

> Callin me a liar,
> tellin me I don't know shit about viruses. I've written many, I
> would think I know a fucking thing or two about them. Whats the
> name of any you've written, you dumb shit?

Your reference number for all correspondence relating to this crime
is EAQ\E2441105. Please use this number in all future
communications.

https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf4.asp

"The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership between
the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White
Collar Crime Center (NW3C).

IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and
refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of
cyber crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient
and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of
suspected criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and
regulatory agencies at the federal, state, and local level, IC3
provides a central referral mechanism for complaints involving
Internet related crimes."

File a Complaint:

Please read the following paragraphs:

The information I've provided on this form is correct to the
best of my knowledge.

I understand that providing *false information* could make
me subject to fine, imprisonment, or both. (Section 1001, Title
18, U.S. Code.)
Looks like they'll get him on that.
It's worse for him than that. Someone whose word I have no reason to
doubt furnished irrefutable evidence that he's also a spammer.


Well I'll be... even though I knew he was lying about his "famed" past


I can point you to irrefutable proof of his lies. I will mail you in a few
moments.
exploits, I didn't think him intelligent enough to send spam. At
least not without using his real mail address.


--
DISCLAIMER: The content does not reflect the thoughts or opinions of either
my ISP, myself, my company or employer, my friends (if any,) my goldfish or
my neighbour's mad dog; don't quote me on that; don't quote me on anything;
all rights reserved; the post is distribution copyrighted to the extent that
you may distribute the post and all its associated parts freely but you may
not make a profit from it or include the post in commercial publications
without written permission from the Prime Minister of Hutt Province; other
copyright laws for specific posts apply wherever noted or not noted, either
deliberately, negligently, or otherwise; posts are subject to change without
notice; posts are slightly enlarged to show detail; any resemblance to
actual persons, living or dead, is unintentional and purely coincidental;
hand wash only, tumble dry on low heat; do not bend, fold, mutilate, or
spindle; do not pass go; do not collect $200; your mileage may vary; no
substitutions allowed; for a limited time only; the post is void where
prohibited, taxed, or otherwise restricted; the post is provided "as is"
without any warranties expressed or implied; user assumes full liabilities;
not liable for damages due to use or misuse; an equal opportunity abuse
employer; no shoes, no shirt; quantities are limited while supplies last; if
defects are discovered, do not attempt to fix them yourself but return to an
authorised post service centre; caveat emptor; read at your own risk;
parental advisory - explicit words; text may contain material some readers
may find objectionable, parental guidance is advised; not suitable for
children; not suitable for adults; not for human consumption; keep away from
sunlight, pets and small children; limit one-per-family; no money down; no
purchase necessary; to approved purchasers only; facsimiles are acceptable
in South Australia; you need not be present to read this post; some assembly
required; batteries not included; action figures sold separately; no
preservatives added; tools not included; safety goggles may be required
during use; sealed for your protection, do not use if the safety seal is
broken; call before you dig; for external use only; if a rash, redness,
irritation or swelling develops, discontinue use; use only with proper
ventilation; avoid extreme temperatures and store in a cool, dry place; keep
away from open flames, naked flames and old flames; avoid inhaling fumes;
avoid contact with mucous membranes; do not puncture, incinerate, or store
above 60 degrees Centigrade; do not place near flammable or magnetic source;
smoking the post may be hazardous to your health; the best safeguard, second
only to abstinence, is the use of a good laugh; text used on the post is
made from 100% recycled electrons and magnetic particles; no animals were
used to test the hilarity of this post other than Synapse Syndrome; no salt,
MSG, artificial colour or flavour added; may contain traces of replies to
peanuts; if ingested, do not induce vomiting, if symptoms persist, consult
your humourologist; post is ribbed for your pleasure; slippery when wet;
must be 18 to read; possible penalties for early withdrawal; post offer
valid only in participating newsgroups; slightly higher in South Australia;
allow four to six weeks for delivery; damage from hurricane, lightning,
tornado, tsunami, volcanic eruption, earthquake, flood, orgasm, misuse,
self-abuse, neglect, unauthorised repair, damage from improper installation,
broken antenna, marred cabinet, incorrect line voltage, missing or altered
serial numbers, sonic boom vibrations, electromagnetic radiation from
nuclear blasts or other Acts of God are not covered; incidents owing to
aeroplane crash, ship sinking, motor vehicle accidents, leaky roof, broken
glass, falling rocks, mud slides, forest fire, flying projectiles or
dropping the item are also excluded; other restrictions may apply. If
something offends you, lighten up, get a life, and move on. All conditions
apply. Not available in all stores. Facts have been changed to protect the
guilty.

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Nov 5 '05 #46
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic, <co********@rel ic211.cjb.net>, the shamefaced, battered
hagfish, and employee in charge of emptying cesspools, effused:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic, <co********@rel ic211.cjb.net>, the cack-handed, repugnant
bull, and puppeteer/marionetteer, bitched:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
> Dustin Cook, <bu************ **@gmail.com>, the suppositional,
> deviant floorwalker, and puppeteer/marionetteer, threatened:
>
>> Callin me a liar,
>> tellin me I don't know shit about viruses. I've written many, I
>> would think I know a fucking thing or two about them. Whats the
>> name of any you've written, you dumb shit?
>
> Your reference number for all correspondence relating to this
> crime is EAQ\E2441105. Please use this number in all future
> communications.
>
> https://www.ifccfbi.gov/complaint/cf4.asp
>
> "The Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3) is a partnership
> between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the
> National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C).
>
> IC3's mission is to serve as a vehicle to receive, develop, and
> refer criminal complaints regarding the rapidly expanding arena of
> cyber crime. The IC3 gives the victims of cyber crime a convenient
> and easy-to-use reporting mechanism that alerts authorities of
> suspected criminal or civil violations. For law enforcement and
> regulatory agencies at the federal, state, and local level, IC3
> provides a central referral mechanism for complaints involving
> Internet related crimes."
>
> File a Complaint:
>
> Please read the following paragraphs:
>
> The information I've provided on this form is correct to
> the best of my knowledge.
>
> I understand that providing *false information* could make
> me subject to fine, imprisonment, or both. (Section 1001, Title
> 18, U.S. Code.)
Looks like they'll get him on that.

It's worse for him than that. Someone whose word I have no reason to
doubt furnished irrefutable evidence that he's also a spammer.


Well I'll be... even though I knew he was lying about his "famed"
past


I can point you to irrefutable proof of his lies. I will mail you in
a few moments.


Ta.
He had to serve his apprenticeship with someone like the butthead. He
certainly leaves himself wide open.

--
Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it.
That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.
Nov 5 '05 #47
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:30:15 GMT, Art <nu**@zilch.com > wrote:
On 4 Nov 2005 09:48:37 -0800, "Dustin Cook"
<bu*********** ***@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought it was the lack of a uninstall that was the big issue. Has
that been fixed? If a typical consumer/user is faced with having to
pay a expensive repair bill to have (possibly buggy) sw removed from
his PC, I'd say it's a big deal indeed.


Not the uninstall per say, just the fact the program makes an active
effort to conseal some of it's files it needs. Of course, Sony didn't
tell anybody they intended to install this wonderful little program.
That probably irked most users.


I see Sony has offered a remover:

http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html

The other concern I've seen has been the security vulnerability
issue, which Sony, of course, disclaims. Also, I have no idea how real
or valid this might be, but the fear is that if a user is hit with
another root kit the resulting low level conflicts will render the PC
unuseable. If this is true, it would seem we're heading for eventual
legislation banning so-called cloaking technology.


Art; what Sony/BMG is offering is not an uninstaller... It's a
de-cloaker. The patch removes the rootkit driver but leaves the DRM
software behind.

Read Mark Russinovich latest blog entry for full details.

<http://www.sysinternal s.com/blog/2005/11/more-on-sony-dangerous-decloaking.html >

Cheers-

Jeff Setaro
jasetaro@SPAM_M E_NOT_mags.net
http://people.mags.net/jasetaro/
PGP Key IDs DH/DSS: 0x5D41429D RSA: 0x599D2A99 New RSA: 0xA19EBD34
Nov 5 '05 #48
Art
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:13:42 -0500, Jeffrey A. Setaro
<jasetaro@SPAM_ ME_NOT_mags.net > wrote:
I see Sony has offered a remover:
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html
Art; what Sony/BMG is offering is not an uninstaller... It's a
de-cloaker. The patch removes the rootkit driver but leaves the DRM
software behind.
You're right. Terminology twist. I was thinking of the "uninstall" of
the cloaking portion.
Read Mark Russinovich latest blog entry for full details.

<http://www.sysinternal s.com/blog/2005/11/more-on-sony-dangerous-decloaking.html >


Art

http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

Nov 5 '05 #49
on Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:24:25 GMT, Art <nu**@zilch.com > wrote this wisdom:
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:13:42 -0500, Jeffrey A. Setaro
<jasetaro@SPAM _ME_NOT_mags.ne t> wrote:
I see Sony has offered a remover:
http://cp.sonybmg.com/xcp/english/updates.html
Art; what Sony/BMG is offering is not an uninstaller... It's a
de-cloaker. The patch removes the rootkit driver but leaves the DRM
software behind.


And you would be willing to install MORE software that SAYS it will decloak the
old software?

What if this program simply replaced the old software with something even worse?

Are YOU going to trust SONY after the mess they made first time?

I think not ...
You're right. Terminology twist. I was thinking of the "uninstall" of
the cloaking portion.
Read Mark Russinovich latest blog entry for full details.

<http://www.sysinternal s.com/blog/2005/11/more-on-sony-dangerous-decloaking.html >


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