Sorry for all the cross posting but I'm interesting in getting a serious
discussion about how usenet has become lately.
Many people are moving away from usenet because of all the spam and cooks
that have been showing up. The rate of spammer seem to be growing
exponentially(ok, not really but it feels like it).
I think maybe its time to do something about it. What I'd like to see happen
is an "upgrade" to usenet. I do not like th forum based communiations that
has sprung up lately but since it solves many of usenet's shortcommings I
believe that will will take over.
If many people feel the same way then maybe we can move on to something
better and increase the efficiency and productivity that usenet was meant
for.
Some ideas I have are:
1. Cook repellent - Some method to prevent cooks from interrupting normal
flow. Either having a voting scheme or some type of identifying means to
either completely remove them or at least make it easier to avoid them.
2. Spam repellent - Similar to Cooks.
3. Meta data - Have the ability to directly include graphics and things like
TeX into messages. For those that do not want to view it they can disable it
or have some other means to see it.
4. Specific tools for groups - Different groups have different needs for
communication. Mathematics groups need to efficiently communicate
mathematical formulas while electronics need to communicate schematics.
5. Moderation - Potentially give regular users of the group the ability to
"quasi-moderate" or in general just have a wide range of options to have
more control over groups(But not to much).
6. Non-anomality or some way to slow down spammers. Maybe better routing
data and such.
7. Potentially "Backwards compatible" with usenet - have the ability to surf
usenet with the same client to help make a smoother transition.
----
In any case this is extremely preliminary and just some thoughts. It seems
that usenet has started to go down the drain. Hopefully there are those out
there that are interested in keeping it alive. I'm thinking something very
similar to usenet but with just more "features".
If enough people are interested in doing this then maybe we can put
something together. All ideas and suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
Jon
Oct 8 '07
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:02:56 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:18:01 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:23:24 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
>>>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:42:50 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>>Also, it seems to be in more or less common use:
>
>Most movie script citations are.
---
Art reflects life, dontcha know?
But nothing reflects you.
---
A mirror do.
>>And my art reflects my life.
And now you're being tedious, tendentious, and pompous.
---
Hardly. I was merely demonstrating that the sentence you wrote:
"But nothing reflects you." wasn't true, on several levels.
Certainly, for his own spiritual development, someone who goes on
and on about the importance of truth needs to be apprised of his
lack of veracity, wouldn't you agree?
---
>Why don't you
admire your reflection in the mirror some more.
---
Narcissism isn't my strong suit.
---
>And we're still
awaiting demonstrations of truth for your opinions, princess.
---
Remember R2?
You got two clues and you still can't figure it out, huh, bozo?
---
>>A US patent, several articles published in trade journals, a
successful company, and many original free designs posted to USENET
pro bono.
That's just swell, princess.
>>And you?
Demonstrations of universal truth by finite tautological reduction to
self contradictory alternatives and exhaustive reduction of boolean
conjunctions in mechanical terms. Nothing much.
---
"Nothing much"? Pride goes before a fall, you know, you smug,
condescending ass.
---
>>>>>Try science for a change.
---
LOL, what would _you_ know about science other than it's a word with
seven letters?
And you aren't either.
---
Here, kitty, kitty...
Yadayada whatever, princess.
---
When you can't think of anything clever to say, say anything?
--
JF
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:50:35 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 17:51:54 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:20:08 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
>>>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:42:50 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>>What are you, about 12 years old?
>
>Yes.
---
That certainly explains your immaturity.
But it doesn't explain yours.
---
Well here's the explanation, junior: Whenever I run across nasty
little half-baked juvenile dipshits like you, who have an axe to
grind and want to be slapped around a little, I'm always happy to
oblige, but I always post at a level which I'm sure you'll be able
to comprehend. And, of course, that level falls into the area of
maturity which your pubescent raging hormones force upon you, so I
gauged my target accurately, it seems.
Word salad and buzzword bingo. And we're still awaiting demonstrations
of truth for your opinions, princess.
---
All in good time, but first I need to ferret out some more of your
weaknesses.
--
JF
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:26:31 GMT, JosephKK
<jo************@sbcglobal.netwrote:
>Lester Zick do********@nowhere.net posted to sci.electronics.design:
>On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:14:01 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mi**********@earthlink.netwrote:
>>>When science and truth are convinced by your flag waving then I'll
be convinced.
As far as the US flag? I posted some pictures that I took on
Memorial Day at our Veteran's Park. It brought out a horde of
idiots like you to bitch, and make lewd comments.
I suspect they may have been complaining more about your religion
than their partiotism.
You truly are the donkey's twin. When you run out of facts, drag
ANY
relgion into the thread as a smokescreen.
And which facts did you have in mind exactly? Yours or someone
elses.
~v~~
The track record of your posts is facts enough.
Yes I guess they is.
~v~~
In article
<ug********************************@4ax.com>,
John Fields <jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:02:56 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:18:01 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:23:24 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:42:50 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>Also, it seems to be in more or less common use:
Most movie script citations are.
---
Art reflects life, dontcha know?
But nothing reflects you.
---
A mirror do.
>And my art reflects my life.
And now you're being tedious, tendentious, and pompous.
---
Hardly. I was merely demonstrating that the sentence you wrote:
"But nothing reflects you." wasn't true, on several levels.
Certainly, for his own spiritual development, someone who goes on
and on about the importance of truth needs to be apprised of his
lack of veracity, wouldn't you agree?
---
Why don't you
admire your reflection in the mirror some more.
---
Narcissism isn't my strong suit.
---
And we're still
awaiting demonstrations of truth for your opinions, princess.
---
Remember R2?
You got two clues and you still can't figure it out, huh, bozo?
---
>A US patent, several articles published in trade journals, a
successful company, and many original free designs posted to USENET
pro bono.
That's just swell, princess.
>And you?
Demonstrations of universal truth by finite tautological reduction to
self contradictory alternatives and exhaustive reduction of boolean
conjunctions in mechanical terms. Nothing much.
---
"Nothing much"? Pride goes before a fall, you know, you smug,
condescending ass.
You all may find the original line of use.
Proverbs, 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction,
and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Even more apt, eh?
--
Michael Press
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:20:42 -0700, Michael Press
<ru****@pacbell.netwrote:
>In article
<ug********************************@4ax.com>,
John Fields <jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:02:56 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
>On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:18:01 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:23:24 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:42:50 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
>>Also, it seems to be in more or less common use:
>
>Most movie script citations are.
---
Art reflects life, dontcha know?
But nothing reflects you.
---
A mirror do.
And my art reflects my life.
And now you're being tedious, tendentious, and pompous.
---
Hardly. I was merely demonstrating that the sentence you wrote:
"But nothing reflects you." wasn't true, on several levels.
Certainly, for his own spiritual development, someone who goes on
and on about the importance of truth needs to be apprised of his
lack of veracity, wouldn't you agree?
---
>Why don't you
admire your reflection in the mirror some more.
---
Narcissism isn't my strong suit.
---
>And we're still
awaiting demonstrations of truth for your opinions, princess.
---
Remember R2?
You got two clues and you still can't figure it out, huh, bozo?
---
>>A US patent, several articles published in trade journals, a
successful company, and many original free designs posted to USENET
pro bono.
That's just swell, princess.
And you?
Demonstrations of universal truth by finite tautological reduction to
self contradictory alternatives and exhaustive reduction of boolean
conjunctions in mechanical terms. Nothing much.
---
"Nothing much"? Pride goes before a fall, you know, you smug,
condescending ass.
You all may find the original line of use.
Proverbs, 16:18
Pride goeth before destruction,
and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Even more apt, eh?
---
Yes. Thank you.
--
JF
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:32:57 -0400, Rick Decker <rd*****@hamilton.edu>
wrote:
I have an idea. Just delete sci.math from the alist and then you can
all get back on your hobby horses and continue to study Ohm's law and
Mho's law and Mike the Martyr's patriotism without my sayso.
~v~~
In article <tj********************************@4ax.com>, do********@nowhere.net says...
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:34:13 -0500, John Fields
<jf*****@austininstruments.comwrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:26:13 -0700, Lester Zick
<do********@nowhere.netwrote:
>On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:53:14 -0500, John Fields
> and why do you find it necessary to try to berate him at every
opportunity?
Because he insists on draping himself in the flag and acting like he's
the only one who's ever been there or done that and that it somehow
has a bearing on the issues raised here.
---
Funny, but in my view that's not the way he comes across at all in
that he very seldom, if ever, brings up his military experiences
unless someone asks him about them.
He brings it up in every sig file attached to every post. You're being
disingenuous which I suppose is about the most we can expect from you.
Do you always get this upset at sig files? Perhaps you shouldn't read
them. ...or grow some skin. A brain wouldn't hurt either.
You, however, have made a couple of unwarranted references to
flag-waving and have been generally belligerent toward him,
ostensibly because of his military background, so I think there's a
little more going on in your head than you want to admit.
You really are incredibly stupid. I offer disclaimers and explain the
disclaimers and you go right on insisting that I'm dissing Michael's
military service. Military partisanship has no bearing on the course
of science, truth, or issues of
Neither do you, so what's your excuse for living?
public censorship.
The only one attempting to "censor" anyone here is you. You don't
like Michael's sig, so berate his service to get his sig removed.
That looks pretty childish to everyone here. Fruitless and childish.
--
Keith
In article <qv********************************@4ax.com>, do********@nowhere.net says...
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:32:57 -0400, Rick Decker <rd*****@hamilton.edu>
wrote:
I have an idea. Just delete sci.math from the alist and then you can
all get back on your hobby horses and continue to study Ohm's law and
Mho's law and Mike the Martyr's patriotism without my sayso.
*Your* say-so?! Who is attempting censorship now? You're a
friggin' panty-waisted hypocritical moron.
Tell me, how much work is it to be dumber than a donkey?
--
Keith
krw wrote:
In article <qv********************************@4ax.com>,
do********@nowhere.net says...
>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:32:57 -0400, Rick Decker <rd*****@hamilton.edu>
wrote:
I have an idea. Just delete sci.math from the alist and then you can
all get back on your hobby horses and continue to study Ohm's law and
Mho's law and Mike the Martyr's patriotism without my sayso.
*Your* say-so?! Who is attempting censorship now? You're a
friggin' panty-waisted hypocritical moron.
Tell me, how much work is it to be dumber than a donkey?
Don't ask me, I never wrote that. Looks as Lester chimed in.
Go talk to him.
Regards,
Rick
can't we all just get along? group hug. group hug!
--
Regards,
Alvin Bruney
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"Rick Decker" <rd*****@hamilton.eduwrote in message
news:d4******************************@hamilton.edu ...
krw wrote:
>In article <qv********************************@4ax.com>,
do********@nowhere.net says...
>>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:32:57 -0400, Rick Decker <rd*****@hamilton.edu>
wrote:
I have an idea. Just delete sci.math from the alist and then you can
all get back on your hobby horses and continue to study Ohm's law and
Mho's law and Mike the Martyr's patriotism without my sayso.
*Your* say-so?! Who is attempting censorship now? You're a friggin'
panty-waisted hypocritical moron. Tell me, how much work is it to be
dumber than a donkey?
Don't ask me, I never wrote that. Looks as Lester chimed in.
Go talk to him.
Regards,
Rick
In article <d4******************************@hamilton.edu>, rd*****@hamilton.edu says...
krw wrote:
In article <qv********************************@4ax.com>,
do********@nowhere.net says...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:32:57 -0400, Rick Decker <rd*****@hamilton.edu>
wrote:
I have an idea. Just delete sci.math from the alist and then you can
all get back on your hobby horses and continue to study Ohm's law and
Mho's law and Mike the Martyr's patriotism without my sayso.
*Your* say-so?! Who is attempting censorship now? You're a
friggin' panty-waisted hypocritical moron.
Tell me, how much work is it to be dumber than a donkey?
Don't ask me, I never wrote that. Looks as Lester chimed in.
Go talk to him.
I didn't say you did. Lester the molester snipped your words but
left your attribution.
--
Keith
In article <OE**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, "Alvin Bruney
[MVP]" <some guy without an email addresssays...
can't we all just get along? group hug. group hug!
Ew! With a top poster?
--
Keith
Rick Decker rd*****@hamilton.edu posted to sci.electronics.design:
krw wrote:
>In article <qv********************************@4ax.com>,
do********@nowhere.net says...
>>On Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:32:57 -0400, Rick Decker
<rd*****@hamilton.eduwrote:
I have an idea. Just delete sci.math from the alist and then you
can all get back on your hobby horses and continue to study Ohm's
law and Mho's law and Mike the Martyr's patriotism without my
sayso.
*Your* say-so?! Who is attempting censorship now? You're a
friggin' panty-waisted hypocritical moron.
Tell me, how much work is it to be dumber than a donkey?
Don't ask me, I never wrote that. Looks as Lester chimed in.
Go talk to him.
Regards,
Rick
Agreed. Festus sick has posted it several times.
Alvin Bruney [MVP] wrote:
can't we all just get along? group hug. group hug!
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