C# versus VB.Net

[Emmett]

I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[Scott M.]

This has been asked & answered thousands of times in various places.

There is no clear reason to prefer ANY .NET language over another.

It comes down to preference. In a corporate environment, the language
decision usually gets made based on the esiting skill sets that are already
in-house. Java and C/C++ developers are going to have a bit of an easier
time going to C#, because the language syntax is very similiar. VB 6.0
developers and those with little or no programming experience might prefer
going to VB.NET.

All .NET languages work off of a Common Language Specification and a Common
Type System. They all compile to the same Intermediate Language and the all
have (more or less) the same performance and capabilities.

-Scott

"Emmett" <eo********@eir com.netwrote in message
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>I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[Tom Spink]

Emmett wrote:

I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

Hi Emmett,

Do you like coding in C#, or do you like coding in VB .NET?

Choose the one you like. It makes no difference. :-)

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Hope this helps,
Tom Spink

Google first, ask later.

[Scott M.]

Just curious though...Why do you *want* to talk management into C#?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
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This has been asked & answered thousands of times in various places.

There is no clear reason to prefer ANY .NET language over another.

It comes down to preference. In a corporate environment, the language
decision usually gets made based on the esiting skill sets that are
already in-house. Java and C/C++ developers are going to have a bit of an
easier time going to C#, because the language syntax is very similiar. VB
6.0 developers and those with little or no programming experience might
prefer going to VB.NET.

All .NET languages work off of a Common Language Specification and a
Common Type System. They all compile to the same Intermediate Language
and the all have (more or less) the same performance and capabilities.

-Scott

"Emmett" <eo********@eir com.netwrote in message
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>>I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[chanmm]

Exactly Scott, what does management to do with what programming language to
use. The software architect should.Yet, if the software architect does not
know about why C# and VB.NET I bet you really can ask the management to fire
him/her.

chanmm
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
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Just curious though...Why do you *want* to talk management into C#?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
news:eR******** ******@TK2MSFTN GP03.phx.gbl...

>This has been asked & answered thousands of times in various places.

There is no clear reason to prefer ANY .NET language over another.

It comes down to preference. In a corporate environment, the language
decision usually gets made based on the esiting skill sets that are
already in-house. Java and C/C++ developers are going to have a bit of
an easier time going to C#, because the language syntax is very similiar.
VB 6.0 developers and those with little or no programming experience
might prefer going to VB.NET.

All .NET languages work off of a Common Language Specification and a
Common Type System. They all compile to the same Intermediate Language
and the all have (more or less) the same performance and capabilities.

-Scott

"Emmett" <eo********@eir com.netwrote in message
news:11******* **************@ s13g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .

>>>I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[naraby]

as far as I know they are similiar in output <in sysntax. I have been
working on VB my whole life and starting with vb.net 2003 there is nothing
related to windows that I could not achieve....
If no previous exprience in C, I would recommend VB.NET becuase it is so
much easy to learn and Microsoft is commited to it, so do nt be afraid to go
for it.

"Emmett" wrote:

I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[Scott M.]

True, but not really my point. The OP said he *wanted* to present to
management reasont to use C# over VB.NET. Sounds like the OP has some
reason in mind for this. I was interested to know what it was.

As for management being involved. I can see a few factors that are
managerial and not technical for choosing a programming language....

Cost to train developers in a new programming language and loss of
productivity while they are in training and get ramped up.

Ditto for developer support personnel.

Also, if current developers and support people have to have a new language
in their skill set, it not only means getting those people trained, but it
means that future people hired for those positions will need to have skills
in more than one programming language. That could mean that these positions
must pay more than they may pay now.

But I do agree that management doesn't see things from a technical point of
view, the see things from a "bottom line" point of view.

"chanmm" <ch*****@hotmai l.comwrote in message
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Exactly Scott, what does management to do with what programming language
to use. The software architect should.Yet, if the software architect does
not know about why C# and VB.NET I bet you really can ask the management
to fire him/her.

chanmm
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
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>Just curious though...Why do you *want* to talk management into C#?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote in message
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>>This has been asked & answered thousands of times in various places.

There is no clear reason to prefer ANY .NET language over another.

It comes down to preference. In a corporate environment, the language
decision usually gets made based on the esiting skill sets that are
already in-house. Java and C/C++ developers are going to have a bit of
an easier time going to C#, because the language syntax is very
similiar. VB 6.0 developers and those with little or no programming
experience might prefer going to VB.NET.

All .NET languages work off of a Common Language Specification and a
Common Type System. They all compile to the same Intermediate Language
and the all have (more or less) the same performance and capabilities.

-Scott

"Emmett" <eo********@eir com.netwrote in message
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I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[Scott M.]

But, let's just be clear and impartial here....

as far as I know they are similiar in output <in sysntax.

This only applies when you are talking about ASP.NET. For client and
componenet development, this statement doesn't have any meaning.

I have been working on VB my whole life and starting with vb.net 2003
there is nothing
related to windows that I could not achieve....
If no previous exprience in C, I would recommend VB.NET becuase it is so
much easy to learn

Well, I happen to personally agree with you, but there are those that
disagree and think that VB.NET is too verbose and cumbersome. There are
many that believe that C# is more "elegant" and simple. Remember, you did
say that you've worked with VB for quite a while, so you are biased towards
it. I am too :).

and Microsoft is commited to it, so do nt be afraid to go for it.

Microsoft is committed to C# as well. In fact, many of the major changes to
the VB lanaguage you are now learning in VB.NET have to do with making VB
more C/C#/Java - like. That is one feather in the cap of knowing C#. The
syntax is very similar to C amd Java. Can't say that for VB.NET.

>
"Emmett" wrote:

>I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.

[Jon Skeet [C# MVP]]

Scott M. <s-***@nospam.nosp amwrote:

I have been working on VB my whole life and starting with vb.net 2003
there is nothing
related to windows that I could not achieve....
If no previous exprience in C, I would recommend VB.NET becuase it is so
much easy to learn

Well, I happen to personally agree with you, but there are those that
disagree and think that VB.NET is too verbose and cumbersome. There are
many that believe that C# is more "elegant" and simple. Remember, you did
say that you've worked with VB for quite a while, so you are biased towards
it. I am too :).

I would say that it's not the verbosity of VB.NET which in my view
makes it harder to learn than C# - it's all the "extras" which are part
of it: the odd nature of Nothing when applied to String (where Is and =
do different things for legacy reasons); the way that you can call
static methods as if they were instance methods; the numerous functions
which are mostly there for backwards compatibility, but which you'll
need to have a grip on if you're going to read other people's code
(etc).

C# had a definite advantage in being a new language. It has a few
things left over from C which I'm not too happy with (particularly
regarding switch) but mostly it was able to form a clean break with the
past.

It also doesn't help that VB.NET uses different terminology to what
most other languages use for various things (Nothing instead of null,
shared instead of static, MustInherit instead of abstract, etc). You
need to know the VB.NET terminology in order to write VB.NET, but you
need to know the .NET terminology in order to communicate with anyone
who doesn't use VB.NET.

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[Jonathan Wood]

Well, as others have pointed out, it's a matter of preference. Some things
to consider:

- C# was built from the ground up to be a modern .NET language. VB.NET,
while a completely new language, has some leftover baggage from VB.
- C# has had more involvment with standards comittees than VB.NET. This
could suggest that C# will be a more stable language.
- C# is closer to C/C++. <g>

Perhaps others have more items they can add.

Then you might ask a similar question about VB.NET in the VB.NET groups.

That's probably the most objective approach.

--
Jonathan Wood
SoftCircuits Programming
http://www.softcircuits.com

"Emmett" <eo********@eir com.netwrote in message
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>I am working with a .NET development team and I am looking for reasons,
that I can present to management, as to why we should develop our
software using C# rather than VB.NET.