Having a tough time re-deploying proper System.mdw

[Jozef]

I have a custom menu bar that I seem to be having trouble deploying with the
database. This type of custom object is kept in the System.mdw correct? I
have a target machine that won't let go of the original custom menubar that
I created. Even when I remove the existing system.mdw, it seems to get
re-created the next time I open Access, BUT it doesn't include the new menu
bar, which leads me to believe that the program isn't creating this file.

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

Thanks!

[Keith W]

"Jozef" <[e-mail]> wrote in message news:Dvgnf.146755$S4.39550@edtnps84...

I have a custom menu bar that I seem to be having trouble deploying with
the database. This type of custom object is kept in the System.mdw
correct?
NO! System.mdw is the default Workgroup Information File that ships with
Access. It stores user and group information for User-Level Security and
has nothing to do with custom menus.
I have a target machine that won't let go of the original custom menubar
that I created. Even when I remove the existing system.mdw, it seems to
get re-created the next time I open Access, BUT it doesn't include the new
menu bar, which leads me to believe that the program isn't creating this
file.
AIUI, from A2k on, if System.mdw can't be found then Access will re-create
it, but you're on the wrong tack with this problem anyway.
Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

Forget about system.mdw, the problem lies elsewhere.

Regards,
Keith.
www.keithwilby.com

[Jozef]

Thanks, but where does the problem lie?
"Keith W" <he**@there.com> wrote in message
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"Jozef" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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I have a custom menu bar that I seem to be having trouble deploying with
the database. This type of custom object is kept in the System.mdw
correct?

NO! System.mdw is the default Workgroup Information File that ships with
Access. It stores user and group information for User-Level Security and
has nothing to do with custom menus.

I have a target machine that won't let go of the original custom menubar
that I created. Even when I remove the existing system.mdw, it seems to
get re-created the next time I open Access, BUT it doesn't include the
new menu bar, which leads me to believe that the program isn't creating
this file.

AIUI, from A2k on, if System.mdw can't be found then Access will re-create
it, but you're on the wrong tack with this problem anyway.

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

Forget about system.mdw, the problem lies elsewhere.

Regards,
Keith.
www.keithwilby.com

[Jozef]

Also, how come menu bars appear or disappear depending on which WGIF I use?

"Keith W" <he**@there.com> wrote in message
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"Jozef" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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I have a custom menu bar that I seem to be having trouble deploying with
the database. This type of custom object is kept in the System.mdw
correct?

NO! System.mdw is the default Workgroup Information File that ships with
Access. It stores user and group information for User-Level Security and
has nothing to do with custom menus.

I have a target machine that won't let go of the original custom menubar
that I created. Even when I remove the existing system.mdw, it seems to
get re-created the next time I open Access, BUT it doesn't include the
new menu bar, which leads me to believe that the program isn't creating
this file.

AIUI, from A2k on, if System.mdw can't be found then Access will re-create
it, but you're on the wrong tack with this problem anyway.

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

Forget about system.mdw, the problem lies elsewhere.

Regards,
Keith.
www.keithwilby.com

[Keith W]

"Jozef" <[e-mail]> wrote in message news:oehnf.146815$S4.29843@edtnps84...

Thanks, but where does the problem lie?

That I can't tell you, but at least you can concentrate on finding it
without the red herring misleading you.

[Rick Brandt]

Jozef wrote:

I have a custom menu bar that I seem to be having trouble deploying
with the database. This type of custom object is kept in the
System.mdw correct? I have a target machine that won't let go of the
original custom menubar that I created. Even when I remove the
existing system.mdw, it seems to get re-created the next time I open
Access, BUT it doesn't include the new menu bar, which leads me to
believe that the program isn't creating this file.
Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

Thanks!

Did you actually create a NEW menu bar or did you modify a built in one?

New menu bars travel with the file and are only visible in that file.

Customizations to built in menu bars are NOT part of the file. They are
visible only on the PC where the customization was done in ALL files viewed
on that PC.

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[(PeteCresswell)]

Per Jozef:

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

First off, rename/copy the one you want to use and call it something like
Jozef.mdw.

Then I'd take what steps re needed to associate that .MDW with the instance of
MS Access in question.

I'm dancing around the way to do this bc I can't think of it right now.... but
renaming to Jozef.mdw will allow you to check it while in MS Access (probably
via one of the SysCmd calls).
--
PeteCresswell

[Jozef]

It's a "new" custom one.

"Rick Brandt" <ri*********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jozef wrote:

I have a custom menu bar that I seem to be having trouble deploying
with the database. This type of custom object is kept in the
System.mdw correct? I have a target machine that won't let go of the
original custom menubar that I created. Even when I remove the
existing system.mdw, it seems to get re-created the next time I open
Access, BUT it doesn't include the new menu bar, which leads me to
believe that the program isn't creating this file.
Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

Thanks!

Did you actually create a NEW menu bar or did you modify a built in one?

New menu bars travel with the file and are only visible in that file.

Customizations to built in menu bars are NOT part of the file. They are
visible only on the PC where the customization was done in ALL files
viewed on that PC.

--
I don't check the Email account attached
to this message. Send instead to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

[Jozef]

Thanks Pete.

"(PeteCresswell)" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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Per Jozef:

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

First off, rename/copy the one you want to use and call it something like
Jozef.mdw.

Then I'd take what steps re needed to associate that .MDW with the
instance of
MS Access in question.

I'm dancing around the way to do this bc I can't think of it right now....
but
renaming to Jozef.mdw will allow you to check it while in MS Access
(probably
via one of the SysCmd calls).
--
PeteCresswell

[Rick Brandt]

Jozef wrote:

It's a "new" custom one.

Then anyone you give the file to should see it.

--
I don't check the Email account attached
to this message. Send instead to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

[Keith W]

"(PeteCresswell)" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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Per Jozef:

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

First off, rename/copy the one you want to use and call it something like
Jozef.mdw.

Then I'd take what steps re needed to associate that .MDW with the
instance of
MS Access in question.

I'm dancing around the way to do this bc I can't think of it right now....
but
renaming to Jozef.mdw will allow you to check it while in MS Access
(probably
via one of the SysCmd calls).

The mdw file is a red herring in this problem.

[Jozef]

Thanks Rick. The problem is, I've deployed this db before. The menu bar
had less functionality. I added new items to the menu bar, but they don't
show up when installed on another machine. I renamed the
"C:\Windows\Application Data\Microsoft\Access\System.mdw" file, restarted
the program, and the new menu bar showed up.

......wierd.
"Rick Brandt" <ri*********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Jozef wrote:

It's a "new" custom one.

Then anyone you give the file to should see it.

--
I don't check the Email account attached
to this message. Send instead to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

[Jozef]

I have no reason to disbelieve, I'm just telling you what happened when I
renamed it.

"Keith W" <he**@there.com> wrote in message
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"(PeteCresswell)" <[e-mail]> wrote in message
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Per Jozef:

Any idea how to re-deploy the system.mdw so it actually works?

First off, rename/copy the one you want to use and call it something like
Jozef.mdw.

Then I'd take what steps re needed to associate that .MDW with the
instance of
MS Access in question.

I'm dancing around the way to do this bc I can't think of it right
now.... but
renaming to Jozef.mdw will allow you to check it while in MS Access
(probably
via one of the SysCmd calls).

The mdw file is a red herring in this problem.