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Outlook Toolbar in Access

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I was just wondering if there was any way to use a toolbar in Outlook
2002 in Access 2002? I want to create a custom toolbar in Access
similar to the Calendar toolbar in Outlook.

Any ideas?

Nov 29 '05 #1
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The Outlook toolbar won't work in Access but what you can do is create a
custom Access toolbar with the buttons you want to give you the
functionality you want and then put the Outlook icons on your buttons. The
toolbar will then look just like the Outlook toolbar.
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PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.
"Ecohouse" <vi*******@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
I was just wondering if there was any way to use a toolbar in Outlook
2002 in Access 2002? I want to create a custom toolbar in Access
similar to the Calendar toolbar in Outlook.

Any ideas?

Nov 30 '05 #2

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Thanks for the help. I know about creating custom toolbars.

But how do I put the Outlook icons on the Access toolbars? Is there a
place to find them? I couldn't find them in Access.

Nov 30 '05 #3

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1.. Click the Outlook toolbar button that contains the image.
2.. In the Customize dialog box, click Modify Selection.
3.. Click Copy Button Image on the shortcut menu.
4.. Paste to Access Button

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PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.
"Ecohouse" <vi*******@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
Thanks for the help. I know about creating custom toolbars.

But how do I put the Outlook icons on the Access toolbars? Is there a
place to find them? I couldn't find them in Access.

Nov 30 '05 #4

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:pX***************@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


Most people here have a common belief that the newsgroups are for *free exchange of information*.
But Steve is a notorious job hunter in these groups, always trying to sell his services.

Before you intend to do business with him look at:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)

Arno R
Dec 1 '05 #5

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Why don't you take Salad's advise and grow up and get a life and quit
sending emails to my office.

"If you have anything to contribute to the group, contribute. Your war
with Datasheet is simply pissing and moaning in the wind for the sake of
nothing. Grow up and get a life."

Salad

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.

"StopThisAdvertising" <StopThisAdvertising@DataShit> wrote in message
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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
news:pX***************@newsread3.news.atl.earthlin k.net...
Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


Most people here have a common belief that the newsgroups are for *free
exchange of information*.
But Steve is a notorious job hunter in these groups, always trying to sell
his services.

Before you intend to do business with him look at:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)

Arno R
Dec 1 '05 #6

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PC Datasheet wrote:
Why don't you take Salad's advise and grow up and get a life and quit
sending emails to my office.

"If you have anything to contribute to the group, contribute. Your war
with Datasheet is simply pissing and moaning in the wind for the sake of
nothing. Grow up and get a life."

Salad

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


Your wording is slightly misleading but possibly still correct. You're
claiming to have answered over 1000 NG posts. That's fine. Perhaps
state it that way. If so, they're available for the public to see and
judge. I don't object to you reminding everyone about all the answers
you've posted. I probably can't pass Trevor's interview test so I may
also need some ads someday :-).

The whole alias thing doesn't seem to make sense but that doesn't
matter to me. Why not just state that you think that you know the
answer to a problem but are looking for even better ways to solve it?
Has the NG disregarded one of your questions because they thought you
should be able to solve it yourself? You're obviously not worried that
the NG will be upset with you if you ask too many questions.
Regardless of the source of questions, we get the opportunity to think
about new and interesting problems, get better at solving them, learn
more about Access, encounter interesting people, help people out and
maybe even get to show off a little.

My goal in posting to this NG is not to become the world's best Access
programmer. My goals are to allow others to understand how I approach
problems, give them confidence that I can solve their problems, and
help some people out for free. Maybe your 1000 answers will give
potential customers that confidence. I also find the whole idea of
troubleshooting (communicating what a problem is, finding ways to
isolate the trouble and creating usable solutions) an amazing process.
I don't expect ever to know as much about Access as many in this NG and
I concentrate on 'using' Access to solve problems although sometimes
knowledge about Access itself is required to solve a specific problem
efficiently. If your people skills alienate a customer, send them to
this NG. Our fees are very reasonable.

James A. Fortune

Last night at a restaurant:

Jim, you're still using your silverware on that BBQ 1/2 chicken. Are
you afraid of getting your hands messy?

No. I'll get to that. I'm putting it off for as long as possible.
You can't attack Saddam by air only.

So you're still bombing your chicken?

Yes. It's like trying to clean dishes by pouring water and soap over
them. The ground troops get messy.

Dec 2 '05 #7

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Jim,

You're a class act and I hope you never lower yourself to the level of the
likes of Arno R, John Marshall and Randy Harris!! Thanks for your response.

You have a point about my wording being misleading. I will think about that.
To clarify, I AM NOT referring to my answering over 1000 NG posts. If I
counted however, I have probably answered over 1000 NG posts. What I am
trying to convey in my signature line is that over 1000 people have come to
me for help after not getting the help they need from the newsgroups (not
just CDMA). I hit the 1000 mark after more than four years of providing help
and now I am getting between 5 and 10 new requests for help a week. In the
past seven weeks, I have gotten over 50 new requests for help. I had to get
help myself to complete those requests and it was from a frequent responder
to the newsgroups. I am back to where I complete all requests myself. I am
however seeing an increase in repeat requests for help and if this
continues, I ill need help myself again. The reasons they come to me are
varied; they were looking for fee-based help when they posted and just
needed to know who to go to, urgency to get their database up and running,
lack of skills to implement the solution given in the newsgroup, did not
have the time to spend waiting for a response or posting over and over until
they got a complete answer, etc. Very few ever had anything negative to say
about the newsgroups until recently and now I get many notes expressing
disgust with the actions of Arno R and his hoods.

Regarding giving out confidence ---
As you have probably noticed in many of the answers I have given in the
newsgroups, I not only try to give the HOW of doing something but I also try
to give the WHY. I particularly do this when people come to me with requests
for help. Along with their basic problem I get a lot of questions on how to
do things. As long as it does not get out of hand, I try to answer all
questions in one way or another. I don't charge for this time and the
customer gets more than he paid for. I like Access and I like helping where
I can. Quite a few of the 1000+ customers I have helped have gone on to
create other databases after the one they came to me about because they
learned from me while working with me.

Re: the alias thing ---
My reason for doing this is the same reason why other consultants are using
an alias. Yes there are other consultants using an alias!! I know first hand
in talking with some of them. But all you need do is read the posts
carefully and you will see posts by an alias name and in the posts you will
see something like "... my client did this..." or "... my client wants
that...". The reason to use an alias is to avoid someone making a statement
like ".... you asked XYZ. The answer is so simple that you must not be very
qualified to be giving help to people...". Lyle Fairfield said recently in
one of his responses that even after ten years of Access programming, he is
still learning things basic to Access. Now, I think Lyle is one of the most
knowledgable regulars in the newsgroups and I have a respect for what he
knows. It would not detract from my respect for his knowledge if he asked a
basic question about Access and signed his real name to the post. You hit
the nail on the head saying every post is an opportunity to think about new
and interesting problems, to get better at solving them and to learn more
about Access. This is an ideal but since many people don't see it that way,
other consultants and myself use aliases. Look down through the names of the
posters to the newsgroups and see just how many are real names. For example,
Salad is an outstanding contributor to the newsgroups. I don't know who he
is or what he does, do you?

Steve
PC Datasheet
<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegrou ps.com...
PC Datasheet wrote:
Why don't you take Salad's advise and grow up and get a life and quit
sending emails to my office.

"If you have anything to contribute to the group, contribute. Your war
with Datasheet is simply pissing and moaning in the wind for the sake of
nothing. Grow up and get a life."

Salad

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


Your wording is slightly misleading but possibly still correct. You're
claiming to have answered over 1000 NG posts. That's fine. Perhaps
state it that way. If so, they're available for the public to see and
judge. I don't object to you reminding everyone about all the answers
you've posted. I probably can't pass Trevor's interview test so I may
also need some ads someday :-).

The whole alias thing doesn't seem to make sense but that doesn't
matter to me. Why not just state that you think that you know the
answer to a problem but are looking for even better ways to solve it?
Has the NG disregarded one of your questions because they thought you
should be able to solve it yourself? You're obviously not worried that
the NG will be upset with you if you ask too many questions.
Regardless of the source of questions, we get the opportunity to think
about new and interesting problems, get better at solving them, learn
more about Access, encounter interesting people, help people out and
maybe even get to show off a little.

My goal in posting to this NG is not to become the world's best Access
programmer. My goals are to allow others to understand how I approach
problems, give them confidence that I can solve their problems, and
help some people out for free. Maybe your 1000 answers will give
potential customers that confidence. I also find the whole idea of
troubleshooting (communicating what a problem is, finding ways to
isolate the trouble and creating usable solutions) an amazing process.
I don't expect ever to know as much about Access as many in this NG and
I concentrate on 'using' Access to solve problems although sometimes
knowledge about Access itself is required to solve a specific problem
efficiently. If your people skills alienate a customer, send them to
this NG. Our fees are very reasonable.

James A. Fortune

Last night at a restaurant:

Jim, you're still using your silverware on that BBQ 1/2 chicken. Are
you afraid of getting your hands messy?

No. I'll get to that. I'm putting it off for as long as possible.
You can't attack Saddam by air only.

So you're still bombing your chicken?

Yes. It's like trying to clean dishes by pouring water and soap over
them. The ground troops get messy.

Dec 2 '05 #8

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:MQ*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net:
Jim,

You're a class act and I hope you never lower yourself to the level of
the likes of Arno R, John Marshall and Randy Harris!! Thanks for your
response.

You have a point about my wording being misleading. I will think about
that. To clarify, I AM NOT referring to my answering over 1000 NG
posts. If I counted however, I have probably answered over 1000 NG
posts. What I am trying to convey in my signature line is that over
1000 people have come to me for help after not getting the help they
need from the newsgroups (not just CDMA). I hit the 1000 mark after
more than four years of providing help and now I am getting between 5
and 10 new requests for help a week. In the past seven weeks, I have
gotten over 50 new requests for help. I had to get help myself to
complete those requests and it was from a frequent responder to the
newsgroups. I am back to where I complete all requests myself. I am
however seeing an increase in repeat requests for help and if this
continues, I ill need help myself again. The reasons they come to me
are varied; they were looking for fee-based help when they posted and
just needed to know who to go to, urgency to get their database up and
running, lack of skills to implement the solution given in the
newsgroup, did not have the time to spend waiting for a response or
posting over and over until they got a complete answer, etc. Very few
ever had anything negative to say about the newsgroups until recently
and now I get many notes expressing disgust with the actions of Arno R
and his hoods.

Regarding giving out confidence ---
As you have probably noticed in many of the answers I have given in
the newsgroups, I not only try to give the HOW of doing something but
I also try to give the WHY. I particularly do this when people come to
me with requests for help. Along with their basic problem I get a lot
of questions on how to do things. As long as it does not get out of
hand, I try to answer all questions in one way or another. I don't
charge for this time and the customer gets more than he paid for. I
like Access and I like helping where I can. Quite a few of the 1000+
customers I have helped have gone on to create other databases after
the one they came to me about because they learned from me while
working with me.

Re: the alias thing ---
My reason for doing this is the same reason why other consultants are
using an alias. Yes there are other consultants using an alias!! I
know first hand in talking with some of them. But all you need do is
read the posts carefully and you will see posts by an alias name and
in the posts you will see something like "... my client did this..."
or "... my client wants that...". The reason to use an alias is to
avoid someone making a statement like ".... you asked XYZ. The answer
is so simple that you must not be very qualified to be giving help to
people...". Lyle Fairfield said recently in one of his responses that
even after ten years of Access programming, he is still learning
things basic to Access. Now, I think Lyle is one of the most
knowledgable regulars in the newsgroups and I have a respect for what
he knows. It would not detract from my respect for his knowledge if he
asked a basic question about Access and signed his real name to the
post. You hit the nail on the head saying every post is an opportunity
to think about new and interesting problems, to get better at solving
them and to learn more about Access. This is an ideal but since many
people don't see it that way, other consultants and myself use
aliases. Look down through the names of the posters to the newsgroups
and see just how many are real names. For example, Salad is an
outstanding contributor to the newsgroups. I don't know who he is or
what he does, do you?

Steve
PC Datasheet


Fascinating!
Has IRS ever questioned you about your income from these thousand
clients? I wouldn't talk about that so freely if I were you as they read
newsgroups to see if people are boasting, you know! Let's see 1000
clients ... you must get at least $5000 from each ... hmmmm .... that's
$5 000 000 ... over a bit more than four years ... oh what the heck let's
say a million a year ... what's the income tax hit on that in the US? ...
is there a fine or anything if you don't report it?

And your Aliases? They're probably real people who work in your office,
right? Just like Kyle is really my evil twin? And so you have to share
your profits with

Abbey, Abbie, Abby, Abigail, Ada, Adah, Adaline, Adam, Addie, Adela,
Adelaida, Adelaide, Adele, Adelia, Adelina, Adeline, Adell, Adella,
Adelle, Adena, Adina, Adria, Adrian, Adriana, Adriane, Adrianna,
Adrianne, Adrien, Adriene, Adrienne, Afton, Agatha, Agnes, Agnus,
Agripina, Agueda, Agustina, Ai, Aida, Aide, Aiko, Aileen, Ailene, Aimee,
Aisha, Aja, Akiko, Akilah, Alaina, Alaine, Alana, Alane, Alanna, Alayna,
Alba, Albert, Alberta, Albertha, Albertina, Albertine, Albina, Alda,
Alease, Alecia, Aleen, Aleida, Aleisha, Alejandra, Alejandrina, Alena,
Alene, Alesha, Aleshia, Alesia, Alessandra, Aleta, Aletha, Alethea,
Alethia, Alex, Alexa, Alexander, Alexandra, Alexandria, Alexia, Alexis,
Alfreda, Alfredia, Ali, Alia, Alica, Alice, Alicia, Alida, Alina, Aline,
Alisa, Alise, Alisha, Alishia, Alisia, Alison, Alissa, Alita, Alix,
Aliza, Alla, Alleen, Allegra, Allen, Allena, Allene, Allie, Alline,
Allison, Allyn, Allyson, Alma, Almeda, Almeta, Alona, Alpha, Alta,
Altagracia, Altha, Althea, Alva, Alvera, Alverta, Alvina, Alyce, Alycia,
Alysa, Alyse, Alysha, Alysia, Alyson, Alyssa, Amada, Amal, Amalia,
Amanda, Amber, Amberly, Amee, Amelia, America, Ami, Amie, Amiee, Amina,
Amira, Ammie, Amparo, Amy, An, Ana, Anabel, Analisa, Anamaria, Anastacia,
Anastasia, Andera, Andra, Andre, Andrea, Andree, Andrew, Andria, Anette,
Angel, Angela, Angele, Angelena, Angeles, Angelia, Angelic, Angelica,
Angelika, Angelina, Angeline, Angelique, Angelita, Angella, Angelo,
Angelyn, Angie, Angila, Angla, Angle, Anglea, Anh, Anika, Anisa, Anisha,
Anissa, Anita, Anitra, Anja, Anjanette, Anjelica, Ann, Anna, Annabel,
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Denisha, Denisse, Denita, Denna, Dennis, Dennise, Denny, Denyse, Deon,
Deonna, Desirae, Desire, Desiree, Despina, Dessie, Destiny, Detra, Devin,
Devon, Devona, Devora, Devorah, Dia, Diamond, Dian, Diana, Diane, Diann,
Dianna, Dianne, Diedra, Diedre, Dierdre, Digna, Dimple, Dina, Dinah,
Dinorah, Dion, Dione, Dionna, Dionne, Divina, Dixie, Dodie, Dollie,
Dolly, Dolores, Doloris, Domenica, Dominga, Dominica, Dominique,
Dominque, Domitila, Domonique, Dona, Donald, Donella, Donetta, Donette,
Dong, Donita, Donna, Donnetta, Donnette, Donnie, Donya, Dora, Dorathy,
Dorcas, Doreatha, Doreen, Dorene, Doretha, Dorethea, Doretta, Dori,
Doria, Dorian, Dorie, Dorinda, Dorine, Doris, Dorla, Dorotha, Dorothea,
Dorothy, Dorris, Dortha, Dorthea, Dorthey, Dorthy, Dot, Dottie, Dotty,
Dovie, Dreama, Drema, Drew, Drucilla, Drusilla, Dulce, Dulcie, Dung,
Dusti, Dusty, Dwana, Dyan, Earlean, Earleen, Earlene, Earlie, Earline,
Earnestine, Eartha, Easter, Eboni, Ebonie, Ebony, Echo, Eda, Edda, Eddie,
Edelmira, Eden, Edie, Edith, Edna, Edra, Edris, Edward, Edwina, Edyth,
Edythe, Effie, Ehtel, Eileen, Eilene, Ela, Eladia, Elaina, Elaine, Elana,
Elane, Elanor, Elayne, Elba, Elda, Eldora, Eleanor, Eleanora, Eleanore,
Elease, Elena, Elene, Eleni, Elenor, Elenora, Elenore, Eleonor, Eleonora,
Eleonore, Elfreda, Elfrieda, Elfriede, Elia, Eliana, Elicia, Elida,
Elidia, Elin, Elina, Elinor, Elinore, Elisa, Elisabeth, Elise, Elisha,
Elissa, Eliz, Eliza, Elizabet, Elizabeth, Elizbeth, Elizebeth, Elke,
Ella, Ellamae, Ellan, Ellen, Ellena, Elli, Ellie, Ellis, Elly, Ellyn,
Elma, Elmer, Elmira, Elna, Elnora, Elodia, Elois, Eloisa, Eloise,
Elouise, Elsa, Else, Elsie, Elsy, Elva, Elvera, Elvia, Elvie, Elvina,
Elvira, Elwanda, Elyse, Elza, Ema, Emelda, Emelia, Emelina, Emeline,
Emely, Emerald, Emerita, Emiko, Emilee, Emilia, Emilie, Emily, Emma,
Emmaline, Emmie, Emmy, Emogene, Ena, Enda, Enedina, Eneida, Enid, Enola,
Enriqueta, Epifania, Era, Eric, Erica, Ericka, Erika, Erin, Erinn,
Erlene, Erlinda, Erline, Erma, Ermelinda, Erminia, Erna, Ernestina,
Ernestine, Eryn, Esmeralda, Esperanza, Essie, Esta, Estefana, Estela,
Estell, Estella, Estelle, Ester, Esther, Estrella, Etha, Ethel, Ethelene,
Ethelyn, Ethyl, Etsuko, Etta, Ettie, Eufemia, Eugena, Eugene, Eugenia,
Eugenie, Eula, Eulah, Eulalia, Eun, Euna, Eunice, Eura, Eusebia,
Eustolia, Eva, Evalyn, Evan, Evangelina, Evangeline, Eve, Evelia, Evelin,
Evelina, Eveline, Evelyn, Evelyne, Evelynn, Evette, Evia, Evie, Evita,
Evon, Evonne, Ewa, Exie, Fabiola, Fae, Fairy, Faith, Fallon, Fannie,
Fanny, Farah, Farrah, Fatima, Fatimah, Faustina, Faviola, Fawn, Fay,
Faye, Fe, Felecia, Felica, Felice, Felicia, Felicidad, Felicita,
Felicitas, Felipa, Felisa, Felisha, Fermina, Fern, Fernanda, Fernande,
Ferne, Fidela, Fidelia, Filomena, Fiona, Flavia, Fleta, Flo, Flor, Flora,
Florance, Florence, Florencia, Florene, Florentina, Floretta, Floria,
Florida, Florinda, Florine, Florrie, Flossie, Floy, Fonda, Fran, France,
Francene, Frances, Francesca, Franchesca, Francie, Francina, Francine,
Francis, Francisca, Francisco, Francoise, Frank, Frankie, Fransisca,
Fred, Freda, Fredda, Freddie, Frederica, Fredericka, Fredia, Fredricka,
Freeda, Freida, Frida, Frieda, Fumiko, Gabriel, Gabriela, Gabriele,
Gabriella, Gabrielle, Gail, Gala, Gale, Galina, Garnet, Garnett, Gary,
Gay, Gaye, Gayla, Gayle, Gaylene, Gaynell, Gaynelle, Gearldine, Gema,
Gemma, Gena, Gene, Genesis, Geneva, Genevie, Genevieve, Genevive, Genia,
Genie, Genna, Gennie, Genny, Genoveva, Georgann, George, Georgeann,
Georgeanna, Georgene, Georgetta, Georgette, Georgia, Georgiana,
Georgiann, Georgianna, Georgianne, Georgie, Georgina, Georgine, Gerald,
Geraldine, Geralyn, Gerda, Geri, Germaine, Gerri, Gerry, Gertha, Gertie,
Gertrud, Gertrude, Gertrudis, Gertude, Ghislaine, Gia, Gianna, Gidget,
Gigi, Gilberte, Gilda, Gillian, Gilma, Gina, Ginette, Ginger, Ginny,
Giovanna, Gisela, Gisele, Giselle, Gita, Giuseppina, Gladis, Glady,
Gladys, Glayds, Glenda, Glendora, Glenn, Glenna, Glennie, Glennis,
Glinda, Gloria, Glory, Glynda, Glynis, Golda, Golden, Goldie, Grace,
Gracia, Gracie, Graciela, Grayce, Grazyna, Gregoria, Gregory, Greta,
Gretchen, Gretta, Gricelda, Grisel, Griselda, Guadalupe, Gudrun,
Guillermina, Gussie, Gwen, Gwenda, Gwendolyn, Gwenn, Gwyn, Gwyneth, Ha,
Hae, Hailey, Haley, Halina, Halley, Hallie, Han, Hana, Hang, Hanh, Hanna,
Hannah, Hannelore, Harmony, Harold, Harriet, Harriett, Harriette, Hassie,
Hattie, Haydee, Hayley, Hazel, Heather, Hedwig, Hedy, Hee, Heide, Heidi,
Heidy, Heike, Helaine, Helen, Helena, Helene, Helga, Hellen, Henrietta,
Henriette, Henry, Herlinda, Herma, Hermelinda, Hermila, Hermina, Hermine,
Herminia, Herta, Hertha, Hester, Hettie, Hiedi, Hien, Hilaria, Hilary,
Hilda, Hilde, Hildegard, Hildegarde, Hildred, Hillary, Hilma, Hiroko,
Hisako, Hoa, Holley, Holli, Hollie, Hollis, Holly, Honey, Hong, Hope,
Hortencia, Hortense, Hortensia, Hsiu, Hue, Hui, Hulda, Huong, Hwa,
Hyacinth, Hye, Hyo, Hyon, Hyun, Ida, Idalia, Idell, Idella, Iesha,
Ignacia, Ila, Ilana, Ilda, Ileana, Ileen, Ilene, Iliana, Illa, Ilona,
Ilse, Iluminada, Ima, Imelda, Imogene, In, Ina, India, Indira, Inell,
Ines, Inez, Inga, Inge, Ingeborg, Inger, Ingrid, Inocencia, Iola, Iona,
Ione, Ira, Iraida, Irena, Irene, Irina, Iris, Irish, Irma, Irmgard, Isa,
Isabel, Isabell, Isabella, Isabelle, Isadora, Isaura, Isela, Isidra,
Isis, Isobel, Iva, Ivana, Ivelisse, Ivette, Ivey, Ivonne, Ivory, Ivy,
Izetta, Izola, Ja, Jacalyn, Jacelyn, Jacinda, Jacinta, Jack, Jackeline,
Jackelyn, Jacki, Jackie, Jacklyn, Jackqueline, Jaclyn, Jacqualine,
Jacque, Jacquelin, Jacqueline, Jacquelyn, Jacquelyne, Jacquelynn,
Jacquetta, Jacqui, Jacquie, Jacquiline, Jacquline, Jacqulyn, Jada, Jade,
Jadwiga, Jae, Jaime, Jaimee, Jaimie, Jaleesa, Jalisa, Jama, Jame, Jamee,
James, Jamey, Jami, Jamie, Jamika, Jamila, Jammie, Jan, Jana, Janae,
Janay, Jane, Janean, Janee, Janeen, Janel, Janell, Janella, Janelle,
Janene, Janessa, Janet, Janeth, Janett, Janetta, Janette, Janey, Jani,
Janice, Janie, Janiece, Janina, Janine, Janis, Janise, Janita, Jann,
Janna, Jannet, Jannette, Jannie, January, Janyce, Jaqueline, Jaquelyn,
Jasmin, Jasmine, Jason, Jaunita, Jay, Jaye, Jayme, Jaymie, Jayna, Jayne,
Jazmin, Jazmine, Jean, Jeana, Jeane, Jeanelle, Jeanene, Jeanett,
Jeanetta, Jeanette, Jeanice, Jeanie, Jeanine, Jeanmarie, Jeanna, Jeanne,
Jeannetta, Jeannette, Jeannie, Jeannine, Jeffie, Jeffrey, Jen, Jena,
Jenae, Jene, Jenee, Jenell, Jenelle, Jenette, Jeneva, Jeni, Jenice,
Jenifer, Jeniffer, Jenine, Jenise, Jenna, Jennefer, Jennell, Jennette,
Jenni, Jennie, Jennifer, Jenniffer, Jennine, Jenny, Jeraldine, Jeremy,
Jeri, Jerica, Jerilyn, Jerlene, Jerri, Jerrica, Jerrie, Jerry, Jesenia,
Jesica, Jesse, Jessenia, Jessi, Jessia, Jessica, Jessie, Jessika,
Jestine, Jesus, Jesusa, Jesusita, Jetta, Jettie, Jewel, Jewell, Ji, Jill,
Jillian, Jimmie, Jimmy, Jin, Jina, Jinny, Jo, Joan, Joana, Joane, Joanie,
Joann, Joanna, Joanne, Joannie, Joaquina, Jocelyn, Jodee, Jodi, Jodie,
Jody, Joe, Joeann, Joel, Joella, Joelle, Joellen, Joetta, Joette, Joey,
Johana, Johanna, Johanne, John, Johna, Johnetta, Johnette, Johnie,
Johnna, Johnnie, Johnny, Johnsie, Joi, Joie, Jolanda, Joleen, Jolene,
Jolie, Joline, Jolyn, Jolynn, Jon, Jona, Jone, Jonell, Jonelle, Jong,
Joni, Jonie, Jonna, Jonnie, Jordan, Jose, Josefa, Josefina, Josefine,
Joselyn, Joseph, Josephina, Josephine, Josette, Joshua, Josie, Joslyn,
Josphine, Jovan, Jovita, Joy, Joya, Joyce, Joycelyn, Joye, Juan, Juana,
Juanita, Jude, Judi, Judie, Judith, Judy, Jule, Julee, Julene, Juli,
Julia, Julian, Juliana, Juliane, Juliann, Julianna, Julianne, Julie,
Julieann, Julienne, Juliet, Julieta, Julietta, Juliette, Julio, Julissa,
June, Jung, Junie, Junita, Junko, Justa, Justin, Justina, Justine, Jutta,
Ka, Kacey, Kaci, Kacie, Kacy, Kai, Kaila, Kaitlin, Kaitlyn, Kala,
Kaleigh, Kaley, Kali, Kallie, Kalyn, Kam, Kamala, Kami, Kamilah, Kandace,
Kandi, Kandice, Kandis, Kandra, Kandy, Kanesha, Kanisha, Kara, Karan,
Kareen, Karen, Karena, Karey, Kari, Karie, Karima, Karin, Karina, Karine,
Karisa, Karissa, Karl, Karla, Karleen, Karlene, Karly, Karlyn, Karma,
Karmen, Karol, Karole, Karoline, Karolyn, Karon, Karren, Karri, Karrie,
Karry, Kary, Karyl, Karyn, Kasandra, Kasey, Kasha, Kasi, Kasie,
Kassandra, Kassie, Kate, Katelin, Katelyn, Katelynn, Katerine, Kathaleen,
Katharina, Katharine, Katharyn, Kathe, Katheleen, Katherin, Katherina,
Katherine, Kathern, Katheryn, Kathey, Kathi, Kathie, Kathleen, Kathlene,
Kathline, Kathlyn, Kathrin, Kathrine, Kathryn, Kathryne, Kathy, Kathyrn,
Kati, Katia, Katie, Katina, Katlyn, Katrice, Katrina, Kattie, Katy, Kay,
Kayce, Kaycee, Kaye, Kayla, Kaylee, Kayleen, Kayleigh, Kaylene, Kazuko,
Kecia, Keeley, Keely, Keena, Keesha, Keiko, Keila, Keira, Keisha, Keith,
Keitha, Keli, Kelle, Kellee, Kelley, Kelli, Kellie, Kelly, Kellye,
Kelsey, Kelsi, Kelsie, Kemberly, Kena, Kenda, Kendal, Kendall, Kendra,
Kenia, Kenisha, Kenna, Kenneth, Kenya, Kenyatta, Kenyetta, Kera, Keren,
Keri, Kerri, Kerrie, Kerry, Kerstin, Kesha, Keshia, Keturah, Keva, Kevin,
Khadijah, Khalilah, Kia, Kiana, Kiara, Kiera, Kiersten, Kiesha, Kiley,
Kim, Kimber, Kimberely, Kimberlee, Kimberley, Kimberli, Kimberlie,
Kimberly, Kimbery, Kimbra, Kimi, Kimiko, Kina, Kindra, Kira, Kirby,
Kirsten, Kirstie, Kirstin, Kisha, Kit, Kittie, Kitty, Kiyoko, Kizzie,
Kizzy, Klara, Kori, Kortney, Kourtney, Kris, Krishna, Krissy, Krista,
Kristal, Kristan, Kristeen, Kristel, Kristen, Kristi, Kristian, Kristie,
Kristin, Kristina, Kristine, Kristle, Kristy, Kristyn, Krysta, Krystal,
Krysten, Krystin, Krystina, Krystle, Krystyna, Kum, Kyla, Kyle, Kylee,
Kylie, Kym, Kymberly, Kyoko, Kyong, Kyra, Kyung, Lacey, Lachelle, Laci,
Lacie, Lacresha, Lacy, Ladawn, Ladonna, Lady, Lael, Lahoma, Lai, Laila,
Laine, Lajuana, Lakeesha, Lakeisha, Lakendra, Lakenya, Lakesha, Lakeshia,
Lakia, Lakiesha, Lakisha, Lakita, Lala, Lamonica, Lan, Lana, Lane,
Lanell, Lanelle, Lanette, Lang, Lani, Lanie, Lanita, Lannie, Lanora,
Laquanda, Laquita, Lara, Larae, Laraine, Laree, Larhonda, Larisa,
Larissa, Larita, Laronda, Larraine, Larry, Larue, Lasandra, Lashanda,
Lashandra, Lashaun, Lashaunda, Lashawn, Lashawna, Lashawnda, Lashay,
Lashell, Lashon, Lashonda, Lashunda, Lasonya, Latanya, Latarsha, Latasha,
Latashia, Latesha, Latia, Laticia, Latina, Latisha, Latonia, Latonya,
Latoria, Latosha, Latoya, Latoyia, Latrice, Latricia, Latrina, Latrisha,
Launa, Laura, Lauralee, Lauran, Laure, Laureen, Laurel, Lauren, Laurena,
Laurence, Laurene, Lauretta, Laurette, Lauri, Laurice, Laurie, Laurinda,
Laurine, Lauryn, Lavada, Lavelle, Lavenia, Lavera, Lavern, Laverna,
Laverne, Laveta, Lavette, Lavina, Lavinia, Lavon, Lavona, Lavonda,
Lavone, Lavonia, Lavonna, Lavonne, Lawana, Lawanda, Lawanna, Lawrence,
Layla, Layne, Le, Lea, Leah, Lean, Leana, Leandra, Leann, Leanna, Leanne,
Leanora, Leatha, Leatrice, Lecia, Leda, Lee, Leeann, Leeanna, Leeanne,
Leena, Leesa, Leia, Leida, Leigh, Leigha, Leighann, Leila, Leilani,
Leisa, Leisha, Lekisha, Lela, Lelah, Lelia, Lena, Lenita, Lenna, Lennie,
Lenora, Lenore, Leo, Leola, Leoma, Leon, Leona, Leonarda, Leone, Leonia,
Leonida, Leonie, Leonila, Leonor, Leonora, Leonore, Leontine, Leora,
Leota, Lera, Lesa, Lesha, Lesia, Leslee, Lesley, Lesli, Leslie, Lessie,
Lester, Leta, Letha, Leticia, Letisha, Letitia, Lettie, Letty, Lewis,
Lexie, Lezlie, Li, Lia, Liana, Liane, Lianne, Libbie, Libby, Liberty,
Librada, Lida, Lidia, Lien, Lieselotte, Ligia, Lila, Lili, Lilia, Lilian,
Liliana, Lilla, Lilli, Lillia, Lilliam, Lillian, Lilliana, Lillie, Lilly,
Lily, Lin, Lina, Linda, Lindsay, Lindsey, Lindsy, Lindy, Linette, Ling,
Linh, Linn, Linnea, Linnie, Linsey, Lisa, Lisabeth, Lisandra, Lisbeth,
Lise, Lisette, Lisha, Lissa, Lissette, Lita, Livia, Liz, Liza, Lizabeth,
Lizbeth, Lizeth, Lizette, Lizzette, Lizzie, Loan, Logan, Loida, Lois,
Loise, Lola, Lolita, Loma, Lona, Londa, Loni, Lonna, Lonnie, Lora,
Loraine, Loralee, Lore, Lorean, Loree, Loreen, Lorelei, Loren, Lorena,
Lorene, Lorenza, Loreta, Loretta, Lorette, Lori, Loria, Loriann, Lorie,
Lorilee, Lorina, Lorinda, Lorine, Loris, Lorita, Lorna, Lorraine,
Lorretta, Lorri, Lorriane, Lorrie, Lorrine, Lory, Lottie, Lou, Louann,
Louanne, Louella, Louetta, Louie, Louis, Louisa, Louise, Loura, Lourdes,
Lourie, Louvenia, Love, Lovella, Lovetta, Lovie, Loyce, Lu, Luana, Luann,
Luanna, Luanne, Luba, Luci, Lucia, Luciana, Lucie, Lucienne, Lucila,
Lucile, Lucilla, Lucille, Lucina, Lucinda, Lucrecia, Lucretia, Lucy,
Ludie, Ludivina, Lue, Luella, Luetta, Luis, Luisa, Luise, Lula, Lulu,
Luna, Lupe, Lupita, Lura, Lurlene, Lurline, Luvenia, Luz, Lyda, Lydia,
Lyla, Lyn, Lynda, Lyndia, Lyndsay, Lyndsey, Lynell, Lynelle, Lynetta,
Lynette, Lynn, Lynna, Lynne, Lynnette, Lynsey, Ma, Mabel, Mabelle, Mable,
Machelle, Macie, Mackenzie, Macy, Madalene, Madaline, Madalyn, Maddie,
Madelaine, Madeleine, Madelene, Madeline, Madelyn, Madge, Madie, Madison,
Madlyn, Madonna, Mae, Maegan, Mafalda, Magali, Magaly, Magan, Magaret,
Magda, Magdalen, Magdalena, Magdalene, Magen, Maggie, Magnolia, Mahalia,
Mai, Maia, Maida, Maile, Maira, Maire, Maisha, Maisie, Majorie, Makeda,
Malena, Malia, Malika, Malinda, Malisa, Malissa, Malka, Mallie, Mallory,
Malorie, Malvina, Mamie, Mammie, Man, Mana, Manda, Mandi, Mandie, Mandy,
Manie, Manuela, Many, Mao, Maple, Mara, Maragaret, Maragret, Maranda,
Marcela, Marcelene, Marcelina, Marceline, Marcell, Marcella, Marcelle,
Marcene, Marchelle, Marci, Marcia, Marcie, Marcy, Mardell, Maren, Marg,
Margaret, Margareta, Margarete, Margarett, Margaretta, Margarette,
Margarita, Margarite, Margart, Marge, Margene, Margeret, Margert,
Margery, Marget, Margherita, Margie, Margit, Margo, Margorie, Margot,
Margret, Margrett, Marguerita, Marguerite, Margurite, Margy, Marhta,
Mari, Maria, Mariah, Mariam, Marian, Mariana, Marianela, Mariann,
Marianna, Marianne, Maribel, Maribeth, Marica, Maricela, Maricruz, Marie,
Mariel, Mariela, Mariella, Marielle, Marietta, Mariette, Mariko, Marilee,
Marilou, Marilu, Marilyn, Marilynn, Marin, Marina, Marinda, Marine,
Mario, Marion, Maris, Marisa, Marisela, Marisha, Marisol, Marissa,
Marita, Maritza, Marivel, Marjorie, Marjory, Mark, Marketta, Markita,
Marla, Marlana, Marleen, Marlen, Marlena, Marlene, Marlin, Marline,
Marlo, Marlyn, Marlys, Marna, Marni, Marnie, Marquerite, Marquetta,
Marquita, Marquitta, Marry, Marsha, Marshall, Marta, Marth, Martha,
Marti, Martin, Martina, Martine, Marty, Marva, Marvel, Marvella, Marvis,
Marx, Mary, Marya, Maryalice, Maryam, Maryann, Maryanna, Maryanne,
Marybelle, Marybeth, Maryellen, Maryetta, Maryjane, Maryjo, Maryland,
Marylee, Marylin, Maryln, Marylou, Marylouise, Marylyn, Marylynn,
Maryrose, Masako, Matha, Mathilda, Mathilde, Matilda, Matilde, Matthew,
Mattie, Maud, Maude, Maudie, Maura, Maureen, Maurice, Maurine, Maurita,
Mavis, Maxie, Maxima, Maximina, Maxine, May, Maya, Maybell, Maybelle,
Maye, Mayme, Mayola, Mayra, Mazie, Mckenzie, Meagan, Meaghan, Mechelle,
Meda, Mee, Meg, Megan, Meggan, Meghan, Meghann, Mei, Melaine, Melani,
Melania, Melanie, Melany, Melba, Melda, Melia, Melida, Melina, Melinda,
Melisa, Melissa, Melissia, Melita, Mellie, Mellisa, Mellissa, Melodee,
Melodi, Melodie, Melody, Melonie, Melony, Melva, Melvin, Melvina,
Melynda, Mendy, Mercedes, Mercedez, Mercy, Meredith, Meri, Merideth,
Meridith, Merilyn, Merissa, Merle, Merlene, Merlyn, Merna, Merri, Merrie,
Merrilee, Merrill, Merry, Mertie, Meryl, Meta, Mi, Mia, Mica, Micaela,
Micah, Micha, Michael, Michaela, Michaele, Michal, Micheal, Michel,
Michele, Michelina, Micheline, Michell, Michelle, Michiko, Mickey, Micki,
Mickie, Miesha, Migdalia, Mignon, Miguelina, Mika, Mikaela, Mike, Miki,
Mikki, Mila, Milagro, Milagros, Milda, Mildred, Milissa, Millicent,
Millie, Milly, Mimi, Min, Mina, Minda, Mindi, Mindy, Minerva, Ming, Minh,
Minna, Minnie, Minta, Mira, Miranda, Mireille, Mirella, Mireya, Miriam,
Mirian, Mirna, Mirta, Mirtha, Misha, Miss, Missy, Misti, Mistie, Misty,
Mitchell, Mitsue, Mitsuko, Mittie, Mitzi, Mitzie, Miyoko, Modesta, Moira,
Mollie, Molly, Mona, Monet, Monica, Monika, Monique, Monnie, Monserrate,
Moon, Mora, Morgan, Moriah, Mozell, Mozella, Mozelle, Mui, Muoi, Muriel,
My, Myesha, Myong, Myra, Myriam, Myrl, Myrle, Myrna, Myrta, Myrtice,
Myrtie, Myrtis, Myrtle, Myung, Na, Nada, Nadene, Nadia, Nadine, Naida,
Nakesha, Nakia, Nakisha, Nakita, Nam, Nan, Nana, Nancee, Nancey, Nanci,
Nancie, Nancy, Nanette, Nannette, Nannie, Naoma, Naomi, Narcisa, Natacha,
Natalia, Natalie, Natalya, Natasha, Natashia, Nathalie, Natisha,
Natividad, Natosha, Necole, Neda, Nedra, Neely, Neida, Nelda, Nelia,
Nelida, Nell, Nella, Nelle, Nellie, Nelly, Nena, Nenita, Neoma, Neomi,
Nereida, Nerissa, Nery, Neta, Nettie, Neva, Nevada, Nga, Ngan, Ngoc,
Nguyet, Nia, Nichelle, Nichol, Nichole, Nicholle, Nicki, Nickie, Nickole,
Nicky, Nicol, Nicola, Nicolasa, Nicole, Nicolette, Nicolle, Nida, Nidia,
Niesha, Nieves, Niki, Nikia, Nikita, Nikki, Nikole, Nila, Nilda, Nilsa,
Nina, Ninfa, Nisha, Nita, Nobuko, Noel, Noelia, Noella, Noelle, Noemi,
Nohemi, Nola, Noma, Nona, Nora, Norah, Noreen, Norene, Noriko, Norine,
Norma, Norman, Nova, Novella, Nu, Nubia, Numbers, Nydia, Nyla, Obdulia,
Ocie, Octavia, Oda, Odelia, Odell, Odessa, Odette, Odilia, Ofelia, Ok,
Ola, Olene, Oleta, Olevia, Olga, Olimpia, Olinda, Oliva, Olive, Olivia,
Ollie, Olympia, Oma, Omega, Ona, Oneida, Onie, Onita, Opal, Ophelia, Ora,
Oralee, Oralia, Oretha, Orpha, Oscar, Ossie, Otelia, Otha, Otilia, Ouida,
Ozell, Ozella, Ozie, Pa, Page, Paige, Palma, Palmira, Pam, Pamala,
Pamela, Pamelia, Pamella, Pamila, Pamula, Pandora, Pansy, Paola, Paris,
Parthenia, Particia, Pasty, Pat, Patience, Patria, Patrica, Patrice,
Patricia, Patrick, Patrina, Patsy, Patti, Pattie, Patty, Paul, Paula,
Paulene, Pauletta, Paulette, Paulina, Pauline, Paulita, Paz, Pearl,
Pearle, Pearlene, Pearlie, Pearline, Pearly, Peg, Peggie, Peggy, Pei,
Penelope, Penney, Penni, Pennie, Penny, Perla, Perry, Peter, Petra,
Petrina, Petronila, Phebe, Phillis, Philomena, Phoebe, Phung, Phuong,
Phylicia, Phylis, Phyliss, Phyllis, Pia, Piedad, Pilar, Ping, Pinkie,
Piper, Pok, Polly, Porsche, Porsha, Portia, Precious, Pricilla, Princess,
Priscila, Priscilla, Providencia, Prudence, Pura, Qiana, Queen, Queenie,
Quiana, Quinn, Quyen, Rachael, Rachal, Racheal, Rachel, Rachele, Rachell,
Rachelle, Racquel, Rae, Raeann, Raelene, Rafaela, Raguel, Raina, Raisa,
Ramona, Ramonita, Rana, Ranae, Randa, Randee, Randi, Randy, Ranee,
Raquel, Rasheeda, Rashida, Raven, Ray, Raye, Raylene, Raymond, Raymonde,
Rayna, Rea, Reagan, Reanna, Reatha, Reba, Rebbeca, Rebbecca, Rebeca,
Rebecca, Rebecka, Rebekah, Reda, Reena, Refugia, Refugio, Regan, Regena,
Regenia, Regina, Regine, Reginia, Reiko, Reina, Reita, Rema, Remedios,
Remona, Rena, Renae, Renata, Renate, Renay, Renda, Rene, Renea, Renee,
Renetta, Renita, Renna, Ressie, Reta, Retha, Retta, Reva, Reyna,
Reynalda, Rhea, Rheba, Rhiannon, Rhoda, Rhona, Rhonda, Ria, Ricarda,
Richard, Richelle, Ricki, Rickie, Rikki, Rima, Rina, Risa, Rita, Riva,
Rivka, Robbi, Robbie, Robbin, Robbyn, Robena, Robert, Roberta, Roberto,
Robin, Robyn, Rochel, Rochell, Rochelle, Rocio, Rolanda, Rolande, Roma,
Romaine, Romana, Romelia, Romona, Rona, Ronald, Ronda, Roni, Ronna,
Ronni, Ronnie, Rory, Rosa, Rosalba, Rosalee, Rosalia, Rosalie, Rosalina,
Rosalind, Rosalinda, Rosaline, Rosalva, Rosalyn, Rosamaria, Rosamond,
Rosana, Rosann, Rosanna, Rosanne, Rosaria, Rosario, Rosaura, Rose,
Roseann, Roseanna, Roseanne, Roselee, Roselia, Roseline, Rosella,
Roselle, Roselyn, Rosemarie, Rosemary, Rosena, Rosenda, Rosetta, Rosette,
Rosia, Rosie, Rosina, Rosio, Rosita, Roslyn, Rossana, Rossie, Rosy,
Rowena, Roxana, Roxane, Roxann, Roxanna, Roxanne, Roxie, Roxy, Roy,
Royce, Rozanne, Rozella, Rubi, Rubie, Ruby, Rubye, Rudy, Rufina, Russell,
Ruth, Rutha, Ruthann, Ruthanne, Ruthe, Ruthie, Ryan, Ryann, Sabina,
Sabine, Sabra, Sabrina, Sacha, Sachiko, Sade, Sadie, Sadye, Sage, Salena,
Salina, Salley, Sallie, Sally, Salome, Sam, Samantha, Samara, Samatha,
Samella, Samira, Sammie, Sammy, Samuel, Sana, Sanda, Sandee, Sandi,
Sandie, Sandra, Sandy, Sang, Sanjuana, Sanjuanita, Sanora, Santa,
Santana, Santina, Santos, Sara, Sarah, Sarai, Saran, Sari, Sarina,
Sarita, Sasha, Saturnina, Sau, Saundra, Savanna, Savannah, Scarlet,
Scarlett, Scott, Scottie, Sean, Season, Sebrina, See, Seema, Selena,
Selene, Selina, Selma, Sena, Senaida, September, Serafina, Serena,
Serina, Serita, Setsuko, Sha, Shae, Shaina, Shakia, Shakira, Shakita,
Shala, Shalanda, Shalon, Shalonda, Shameka, Shamika, Shan, Shana, Shanae,
Shanda, Shandi, Shandra, Shane, Shaneka, Shanel, Shanell, Shanelle,
Shani, Shanice, Shanika, Shaniqua, Shanita, Shanna, Shannan, Shannon,
Shanon, Shanta, Shantae, Shantay, Shante, Shantel, Shantell, Shantelle,
Shanti, Shaquana, Shaquita, Shara, Sharan, Sharda, Sharee, Sharell,
Sharen, Shari, Sharice, Sharie, Sharika, Sharilyn, Sharita, Sharla,
Sharleen, Sharlene, Sharmaine, Sharolyn, Sharon, Sharonda, Sharri,
Sharron, Sharyl, Sharyn, Shasta, Shaun, Shauna, Shaunda, Shaunna,
Shaunta, Shaunte, Shavon, Shavonda, Shavonne, Shawana, Shawanda,
Shawanna, Shawn, Shawna, Shawnda, Shawnee, Shawnna, Shawnta, Shay,
Shayla, Shayna, Shayne, Shea, Sheba, Sheena, Sheila, Sheilah, Shela,
Shelba, Shelby, Shelia, Shella, Shelley, Shelli, Shellie, Shelly,
Shemeka, Shemika, Shena, Shenika, Shenita, Shenna, Shera, Sheree,
Sherell, Sheri, Sherice, Sheridan, Sherie, Sherika, Sherill, Sherilyn,
Sherise, Sherita, Sherlene, Sherley, Sherly, Sherlyn, Sheron, Sherrell,
Sherri, Sherrie, Sherril, Sherrill, Sherron, Sherry, Sherryl, Shery,
Sheryl, Sheryll, Shiela, Shila, Shiloh, Shin, Shira, Shirely, Shirl,
Shirlee, Shirleen, Shirlene, Shirley, Shirly, Shizue, Shizuko, Shona,
Shonda, Shondra, Shonna, Shonta, Shoshana, Shu, Shyla, Sibyl, Sidney,
Sierra, Signe, Sigrid, Silva, Silvana, Silvia, Sima, Simona, Simone,
Simonne, Sina, Sindy, Siobhan, Sirena, Siu, Sixta, Skye, Slyvia, So,
Socorro, Sofia, Soila, Sol, Solange, Soledad, Somer, Sommer, Son, Sona,
Sondra, Song, Sonia, Sonja, Sonya, Soo, Sook, Soon, Sophia, Sophie,
Soraya, Sparkle, Spring, Stacee, Stacey, Staci, Stacia, Stacie, Stacy,
Star, Starla, Starr, Stasia, Stefani, Stefania, Stefanie, Stefany,
Steffanie, Stella, Stepanie, Stephaine, Stephane, Stephani, Stephania,
Stephanie, Stephany, Stephen, Stephenie, Stephine, Stephnie, Steven,
Stevie, Stormy, Su, Suanne, Sudie, Sue, Sueann, Suellen, Suk, Sulema,
Sumiko, Summer, Sun, Sunday, Sung, Sunni, Sunny, Sunshine, Susan, Susana,
Susann, Susanna, Susannah, Susanne, Susie, Susy, Suzan, Suzann, Suzanna,
Suzanne, Suzette, Suzi, Suzie, Suzy, Svetlana, Sybil, Syble, Sydney,
Sylvia, Sylvie, Synthia, Syreeta, Ta, Tabatha, Tabetha, Tabitha, Tai,
Taina, Taisha, Tajuana, Takako, Takisha, Talia, Talisha, Talitha, Tam,
Tama, Tamala, Tamar, Tamara, Tamatha, Tambra, Tameika, Tameka, Tamekia,
Tamela, Tamera, Tamesha, Tami, Tamica, Tamie, Tamika, Tamiko, Tamisha,
Tammara, Tammera, Tammi, Tammie, Tammy, Tamra, Tana, Tandra, Tandy,
Taneka, Tanesha, Tangela, Tania, Tanika, Tanisha, Tanja, Tanna, Tanya,
Tara, Tarah, Taren, Tari, Tarra, Tarsha, Taryn, Tasha, Tashia, Tashina,
Tasia, Tatiana, Tatum, Tatyana, Taunya, Tawana, Tawanda, Tawanna, Tawna,
Tawny, Tawnya, Taylor, Tayna, Teena, Tegan, Teisha, Telma, Temeka,
Temika, Tempie, Temple, Tena, Tenesha, Tenisha, Tennie, Tennille,
Teodora, Teofila, Tequila, Tera, Tereasa, Teresa, Terese, Teresia,
Teresita, Teressa, Teri, Terica, Terina, Terisa, Terra, Terrell, Terresa,
Terri, Terrie, Terrilyn, Terry, Tesha, Tess, Tessa, Tessie, Thalia,
Thanh, Thao, Thea, Theda, Thelma, Theo, Theodora, Theola, Theresa,
Therese, Theresia, Theressa, Thersa, Thi, Thomas, Thomasena, Thomasina,
Thomasine, Thora, Thresa, Thu, Thuy, Tia, Tiana, Tianna, Tiara, Tien,
Tiera, Tierra, Tiesha, Tifany, Tiffaney, Tiffani, Tiffanie, Tiffany,
Tiffiny, Tijuana, Tilda, Tillie, Timika, Timothy, Tina, Tinisha, Tiny,
Tisa, Tish, Tisha, Tobi, Tobie, Toby, Toccara, Toi, Tomasa, Tomeka, Tomi,
Tomika, Tomiko, Tommie, Tommy, Tommye, Tomoko, Tona, Tonda, Tonette,
Toni, Tonia, Tonie, Tonisha, Tonita, Tonja, Tony, Tonya, Tora, Tori,
Torie, Torri, Torrie, Tory, Tosha, Toshia, Toshiko, Tova, Towanda, Toya,
Tracee, Tracey, Traci, Tracie, Tracy, Tran, Trang, Travis, Treasa,
Treena, Trena, Tresa, Tressa, Tressie, Treva, Tricia, Trina, Trinh,
Trinidad, Trinity, Trish, Trisha, Trista, Tristan, Troy, Trudi, Trudie,
Trudy, Trula, Tu, Tula, Tuyet, Twana, Twanda, Twanna, Twila, Twyla,
Tyesha, Tyisha, Tyler, Tynisha, Tyra, Ula, Ulrike, Un, Una, Ursula, Usha,
Ute, Vada, Val, Valarie, Valda, Valencia, Valene, Valentina, Valentine,
Valeri, Valeria, Valerie, Valery, Vallie, Valorie, Valrie, Van, Vanda,
Vanesa, Vanessa, Vanetta, Vania, Vanita, Vanna, Vannesa, Vannessa,
Vashti, Vasiliki, Veda, Velda, Velia, Vella, Velma, Velva, Velvet, Vena,
Venessa, Venetta, Venice, Venita, Vennie, Venus, Veola, Vera, Verda,
Verdell, Verdie, Verena, Vergie, Verla, Verlene, Verlie, Verline, Verna,
Vernell, Vernetta, Vernia, Vernice, Vernie, Vernita, Vernon, Verona,
Veronica, Veronika, Veronique, Versie, Vertie, Vesta, Veta, Vi, Vicenta,
Vickey, Vicki, Vickie, Vicky, Victor, Victoria, Victorina, Vida, Viki,
Vikki, Vilma, Vina, Vincenza, Vinita, Vinnie, Viola, Violet, Violeta,
Violette, Virgen, Virgie, Virgil, Virgina, Virginia, Vita, Viva, Vivan,
Vivian, Viviana, Vivien, Vivienne, Voncile, Vonda, Vonnie, Wai, Walter,
Waltraud, Wan, Wanda, Waneta, Wanetta, Wanita, Wava, Wei, Wen, Wendi,
Wendie, Wendolyn, Wendy, Wenona, Wesley, Whitley, Whitney, Wilda,
Wilhelmina, Wilhemina, Willa, Willena, Willene, Willetta, Willette,
Willia, William, Willie, Williemae, Willodean, Willow, Wilma, Windy,
Winifred, Winnie, Winnifred, Winona, Winter, Wonda, Wynell, Wynona,
Xenia, Xiao, Xiomara, Xochitl, Xuan, Yadira, Yaeko, Yael, Yahaira,
Yajaira, Yan, Yang, Yanira, Yasmin, Yasmine, Yasuko, Yee, Yelena, Yen,
Yer, Yesenia, Yessenia, Yetta, Yevette, Yi, Ying, Yoko, Yolanda, Yolande,
Yolando, Yolonda, Yon, Yong, Yoshie, Yoshiko, Youlanda, Young, Yu,
Yuette, Yuk, Yuki, Yukiko, Yuko, Yulanda, Yun, Yung, Yuonne, Yuri,
Yuriko, Yvette, Yvone, Yvonne, Zada, Zaida, Zana, Zandra, Zelda, Zella,
Zelma, Zena, Zenaida, Zenia, Zenobia, Zetta, Zina, Zita, Zoe, Zofia,
Zoila, Zola, Zona, Zonia, Zora, Zoraida, Zula, Zulema, Zulma?

Did I have miss anyone? Hope not!

Kyle
Dec 2 '05 #9

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"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote in message
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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
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Did I have miss anyone? Hope not!


You missed out "comic book guy".
Dec 2 '05 #10

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"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> schreef in bericht news:Xn*********************************@216.221.8 1.119...
Did I have miss anyone? Hope not!


ROFL

You forgot me!!! ;-)
But maybe nobody is called Arno over there ??

Arno R

Dec 2 '05 #11

P: n/a
PC Datasheet wrote:
You have a point about my wording being misleading. I will think about that.
To clarify, I AM NOT referring to my answering over 1000 NG posts. If I
counted however, I have probably answered over 1000 NG posts. What I am
trying to convey in my signature line is that over 1000 people have come to
me for help after not getting the help they need from the newsgroups (not
just CDMA). I hit the 1000 mark after more than four years of providing help
and now I am getting between 5 and 10 new requests for help a week. In the
past seven weeks, I have gotten over 50 new requests for help. I had to get
help myself to complete those requests and it was from a frequent responder
to the newsgroups. I am back to where I complete all requests myself. I am
however seeing an increase in repeat requests for help and if this
continues, I ill need help myself again. The reasons they come to me are
varied; they were looking for fee-based help when they posted and just
needed to know who to go to, urgency to get their database up and running,
lack of skills to implement the solution given in the newsgroup, did not
have the time to spend waiting for a response or posting over and over until
they got a complete answer, etc. Very few ever had anything negative to say
about the newsgroups until recently and now I get many notes expressing
disgust with the actions of Arno R and his hoods.
I apologize. Since database requests that come to me are for much
larger projects, the idea of doing 1000 within even 19 years seemed
impossible. It looks like it really does pay to advertise.

Regarding giving out confidence ---
As you have probably noticed in many of the answers I have given in the
newsgroups, I not only try to give the HOW of doing something but I also try
to give the WHY. I particularly do this when people come to me with requests
for help. Along with their basic problem I get a lot of questions on how to
do things. As long as it does not get out of hand, I try to answer all
questions in one way or another. I don't charge for this time and the
customer gets more than he paid for. I like Access and I like helping where
I can. Quite a few of the 1000+ customers I have helped have gone on to
create other databases after the one they came to me about because they
learned from me while working with me.
Quite often the answers given in this NG are not complete, for a
reason. We want people to get involved with doing some of the work
themselves. What we don't always realize is that something that's
simple for us might require a lot more time than we imagine for someone
else to do. I can see where this stream of users comes from, but I'm
glad that after you help them they are able to attempt more on their
own.
about Access. This is an ideal but since many people don't see it that way,
other consultants and myself use aliases. Look down through the names of the
posters to the newsgroups and see just how many are real names. For example,
Salad is an outstanding contributor to the newsgroups. I don't know who he
is or what he does, do you?


Salad? VinegarAndOil? That's not her real name? Don't stoop to their
level :-). I suspect that many posters work for companies that have an
agenda here (different than yours). Like I said before, they're
welcome here. I don't even care if Trevor and Lyle live in Redmond,
but even thinking about that possibility messes with my head (smyley)!
BTW, I don't suspect that at all. I thought Lyle's list of names was
hilarious though. You have a good point here.

James A. Fortune

In a crowded engineering office in Boston:

Engineering Manager:
I want to see all the eigenvalues for the seismic analysis.

Engineer (not me):
You don't understand what you're asking for.

EM: I want to see them all. I insist.

E: O.K.

The next day a cart with mountains of tractor feed paper was slowly
pushed up the aisle while everyone tried to suppress laughing.

Dec 2 '05 #12

P: n/a
Jim,

As I said, you are a class act!!

If you go back earlier than about March of this year, you will only see my
four line signature line and only occasional "Contact me" responses. I was
selective where I responded like this and the ratio of contacts I received
to my "Contact me" was very high. It wasn't until Arno R and his goons began
harassing me and Arno R started sending unwanted emails to my office that I
expanded my signature line.

From the beginning four years ago it seemed that everyone understood I was
offering fee-based help. Most requests for help began with something like
"...what would you charge ...". Also from the beginning my fees have always
been very reasonable. I have never had a complaint about what I charge and
in fact it has never been questioned. I have never ripped off a customer
with exorbitant fees. My fees are significantly lower than any I have ever
seen published in the newsgroups. There was a poster sometime ago that made
a comment about the fees a developer had charged him ($5000) and I responded
to him offering to help if he needed further help. I know my fees would have
been somewhere around $1500 to $2000 for the work the poster described done
by the developer for $5000.

Your point about people attempting more on their own after I help them
occcurs very frequently. I encourage that. I encourage them to go back to
the newsgroups as a resource. I advise them on how to ask questions in a way
that gives a high probability of getting a satisfactory answer. Many do that
but of course it depends on their reason they came to me for help in the
beginning.

Salad? VinegarAndOil? That's not her real name? Don't stoop to their
level :-). I hope you see from my reference to Salad that it was only an
example and nothing derogatory was implied. As I said, Salad is an
oustanding contributor to the newsgroups (man or woman!!). It doesn't matter
that he or she goes by Salad. She or he has a reason for the alias and it's
private to her or him!!

Thanks again, Jim, for your response. You're a class act!

Steve
PC Datasheet


<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
PC Datasheet wrote:
You have a point about my wording being misleading. I will think about
that.
To clarify, I AM NOT referring to my answering over 1000 NG posts. If I
counted however, I have probably answered over 1000 NG posts. What I am
trying to convey in my signature line is that over 1000 people have come
to
me for help after not getting the help they need from the newsgroups (not
just CDMA). I hit the 1000 mark after more than four years of providing
help
and now I am getting between 5 and 10 new requests for help a week. In
the
past seven weeks, I have gotten over 50 new requests for help. I had to
get
help myself to complete those requests and it was from a frequent
responder
to the newsgroups. I am back to where I complete all requests myself. I
am
however seeing an increase in repeat requests for help and if this
continues, I ill need help myself again. The reasons they come to me are
varied; they were looking for fee-based help when they posted and just
needed to know who to go to, urgency to get their database up and
running,
lack of skills to implement the solution given in the newsgroup, did not
have the time to spend waiting for a response or posting over and over
until
they got a complete answer, etc. Very few ever had anything negative to
say
about the newsgroups until recently and now I get many notes expressing
disgust with the actions of Arno R and his hoods.


I apologize. Since database requests that come to me are for much
larger projects, the idea of doing 1000 within even 19 years seemed
impossible. It looks like it really does pay to advertise.

Regarding giving out confidence ---
As you have probably noticed in many of the answers I have given in the
newsgroups, I not only try to give the HOW of doing something but I also
try
to give the WHY. I particularly do this when people come to me with
requests
for help. Along with their basic problem I get a lot of questions on how
to
do things. As long as it does not get out of hand, I try to answer all
questions in one way or another. I don't charge for this time and the
customer gets more than he paid for. I like Access and I like helping
where
I can. Quite a few of the 1000+ customers I have helped have gone on to
create other databases after the one they came to me about because they
learned from me while working with me.


Quite often the answers given in this NG are not complete, for a
reason. We want people to get involved with doing some of the work
themselves. What we don't always realize is that something that's
simple for us might require a lot more time than we imagine for someone
else to do. I can see where this stream of users comes from, but I'm
glad that after you help them they are able to attempt more on their
own.
about Access. This is an ideal but since many people don't see it that
way,
other consultants and myself use aliases. Look down through the names of
the
posters to the newsgroups and see just how many are real names. For
example,
Salad is an outstanding contributor to the newsgroups. I don't know who
he
is or what he does, do you?


Salad? VinegarAndOil? That's not her real name? Don't stoop to their
level :-). I suspect that many posters work for companies that have an
agenda here (different than yours). Like I said before, they're
welcome here. I don't even care if Trevor and Lyle live in Redmond,
but even thinking about that possibility messes with my head (smyley)!
BTW, I don't suspect that at all. I thought Lyle's list of names was
hilarious though. You have a good point here.

James A. Fortune

In a crowded engineering office in Boston:

Engineering Manager:
I want to see all the eigenvalues for the seismic analysis.

Engineer (not me):
You don't understand what you're asking for.

EM: I want to see them all. I insist.

E: O.K.

The next day a cart with mountains of tractor feed paper was slowly
pushed up the aisle while everyone tried to suppress laughing.

Dec 2 '05 #13

P: n/a
ji********@compumarc.com wrote:
I don't even care if Trevor and Lyle live in Redmond


Good guess, James. I do prefer to spend my time at Redmound.

Dec 2 '05 #14

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To all who read this ----

Consider what a jerk this "holier-than-thou" individual is who attacks my
responses to posters and then pollutes the newsgroup and sucks up newsgroup
server bandwidth with a post like this.

He's the same "holier-than-thou" individual who responded to a post with
this to a poster:
Dim acIdiot As Long
acIdiot = acTable
DoCmd.SelectObject acIdiot, "MLH"

with this to a post:
You can change this setting by going to:
Tools -> Options -> International -> General Alignment -> Racist

etc, etc, etc.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote in message
news:Xn*********************************@216.221.8 1.119...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:MQ*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net:
Jim,

You're a class act and I hope you never lower yourself to the level of
the likes of Arno R, John Marshall and Randy Harris!! Thanks for your
response.

You have a point about my wording being misleading. I will think about
that. To clarify, I AM NOT referring to my answering over 1000 NG
posts. If I counted however, I have probably answered over 1000 NG
posts. What I am trying to convey in my signature line is that over
1000 people have come to me for help after not getting the help they
need from the newsgroups (not just CDMA). I hit the 1000 mark after
more than four years of providing help and now I am getting between 5
and 10 new requests for help a week. In the past seven weeks, I have
gotten over 50 new requests for help. I had to get help myself to
complete those requests and it was from a frequent responder to the
newsgroups. I am back to where I complete all requests myself. I am
however seeing an increase in repeat requests for help and if this
continues, I ill need help myself again. The reasons they come to me
are varied; they were looking for fee-based help when they posted and
just needed to know who to go to, urgency to get their database up and
running, lack of skills to implement the solution given in the
newsgroup, did not have the time to spend waiting for a response or
posting over and over until they got a complete answer, etc. Very few
ever had anything negative to say about the newsgroups until recently
and now I get many notes expressing disgust with the actions of Arno R
and his hoods.

Regarding giving out confidence ---
As you have probably noticed in many of the answers I have given in
the newsgroups, I not only try to give the HOW of doing something but
I also try to give the WHY. I particularly do this when people come to
me with requests for help. Along with their basic problem I get a lot
of questions on how to do things. As long as it does not get out of
hand, I try to answer all questions in one way or another. I don't
charge for this time and the customer gets more than he paid for. I
like Access and I like helping where I can. Quite a few of the 1000+
customers I have helped have gone on to create other databases after
the one they came to me about because they learned from me while
working with me.

Re: the alias thing ---
My reason for doing this is the same reason why other consultants are
using an alias. Yes there are other consultants using an alias!! I
know first hand in talking with some of them. But all you need do is
read the posts carefully and you will see posts by an alias name and
in the posts you will see something like "... my client did this..."
or "... my client wants that...". The reason to use an alias is to
avoid someone making a statement like ".... you asked XYZ. The answer
is so simple that you must not be very qualified to be giving help to
people...". Lyle Fairfield said recently in one of his responses that
even after ten years of Access programming, he is still learning
things basic to Access. Now, I think Lyle is one of the most
knowledgable regulars in the newsgroups and I have a respect for what
he knows. It would not detract from my respect for his knowledge if he
asked a basic question about Access and signed his real name to the
post. You hit the nail on the head saying every post is an opportunity
to think about new and interesting problems, to get better at solving
them and to learn more about Access. This is an ideal but since many
people don't see it that way, other consultants and myself use
aliases. Look down through the names of the posters to the newsgroups
and see just how many are real names. For example, Salad is an
outstanding contributor to the newsgroups. I don't know who he is or
what he does, do you?

Steve
PC Datasheet


Fascinating!
Has IRS ever questioned you about your income from these thousand
clients? I wouldn't talk about that so freely if I were you as they read
newsgroups to see if people are boasting, you know! Let's see 1000
clients ... you must get at least $5000 from each ... hmmmm .... that's
$5 000 000 ... over a bit more than four years ... oh what the heck let's
say a million a year ... what's the income tax hit on that in the US? ...
is there a fine or anything if you don't report it?

And your Aliases? They're probably real people who work in your office,
right? Just like Kyle is really my evil twin? And so you have to share
your profits with

Abbey, Abbie, Abby, Abigail, Ada, Adah, Adaline, Adam, Addie, Adela,
Adelaida, Adelaide, Adele, Adelia, Adelina, Adeline, Adell, Adella,
Adelle, Adena, Adina, Adria, Adrian, Adriana, Adriane, Adrianna,
Adrianne, Adrien, Adriene, Adrienne, Afton, Agatha, Agnes, Agnus,
Agripina, Agueda, Agustina, Ai, Aida, Aide, Aiko, Aileen, Ailene, Aimee,
Aisha, Aja, Akiko, Akilah, Alaina, Alaine, Alana, Alane, Alanna, Alayna,
Alba, Albert, Alberta, Albertha, Albertina, Albertine, Albina, Alda,
Alease, Alecia, Aleen, Aleida, Aleisha, Alejandra, Alejandrina, Alena,
Alene, Alesha, Aleshia, Alesia, Alessandra, Aleta, Aletha, Alethea,
Alethia, Alex, Alexa, Alexander, Alexandra, Alexandria, Alexia, Alexis,
Alfreda, Alfredia, Ali, Alia, Alica, Alice, Alicia, Alida, Alina, Aline,
Alisa, Alise, Alisha, Alishia, Alisia, Alison, Alissa, Alita, Alix,
Aliza, Alla, Alleen, Allegra, Allen, Allena, Allene, Allie, Alline,
Allison, Allyn, Allyson, Alma, Almeda, Almeta, Alona, Alpha, Alta,
Altagracia, Altha, Althea, Alva, Alvera, Alverta, Alvina, Alyce, Alycia,
Alysa, Alyse, Alysha, Alysia, Alyson, Alyssa, Amada, Amal, Amalia,
Amanda, Amber, Amberly, Amee, Amelia, America, Ami, Amie, Amiee, Amina,
Amira, Ammie, Amparo, Amy, An, Ana, Anabel, Analisa, Anamaria, Anastacia,
Anastasia, Andera, Andra, Andre, Andrea, Andree, Andrew, Andria, Anette,
Angel, Angela, Angele, Angelena, Angeles, Angelia, Angelic, Angelica,
Angelika, Angelina, Angeline, Angelique, Angelita, Angella, Angelo,
Angelyn, Angie, Angila, Angla, Angle, Anglea, Anh, Anika, Anisa, Anisha,
Anissa, Anita, Anitra, Anja, Anjanette, Anjelica, Ann, Anna, Annabel,
Annabell, Annabelle, Annalee, Annalisa, Annamae, Annamaria, Annamarie,
Anne, Anneliese, Annelle, Annemarie, Annett, Annetta, Annette, Annice,
Annie, Annika, Annis, Annita, Annmarie, Anthony, Antionette, Antoinette,
Antonetta, Antonette, Antonia, Antonietta, Antonina, Antonio, Anya,
Apolonia, April, Apryl, Ara, Araceli, Aracelis, Aracely, Arcelia, Ardath,
Ardelia, Ardell, Ardella, Ardelle, Ardis, Ardith, Aretha, Argelia,
Argentina, Ariana, Ariane, Arianna, Arianne, Arica, Arie, Ariel, Arielle,
Arla, Arlean, Arleen, Arlena, Arlene, Arletha, Arletta, Arlette, Arlinda,
Arline, Arlyne, Armanda, Armandina, Armida, Arminda, Arnetta, Arnette,
Arnita, Arthur, Artie, Arvilla, Asha, Ashanti, Ashely, Ashlea, Ashlee,
Ashleigh, Ashley, Ashli, Ashlie, Ashly, Ashlyn, Ashton, Asia, Asley,
Assunta, Astrid, Asuncion, Athena, Aubrey, Audie, Audra, Audrea, Audrey,
Audria, Audrie, Audry, Augusta, Augustina, Augustine, Aundrea, Aura,
Aurea, Aurelia, Aurora, Aurore, Austin, Autumn, Ava, Avelina, Avery,
Avis, Avril, Awilda, Ayako, Ayana, Ayanna, Ayesha, Azalee, Azucena,
Azzie, Babara, Babette, Bailey, Bambi, Bao, Barabara, Barb, Barbar,
Barbara, Barbera, Barbie, Barbra, Bari, Barrie, Basilia, Bea, Beata,
Beatrice, Beatris, Beatriz, Beaulah, Bebe, Becki, Beckie, Becky, Bee,
Belen, Belia, Belinda, Belkis, Bell, Bella, Belle, Belva, Benita, Bennie,
Berenice, Berna, Bernadette, Bernadine, Bernarda, Bernardina, Bernardine,
Berneice, Bernetta, Bernice, Bernie, Berniece, Bernita, Berry, Berta,
Bertha, Bertie, Beryl, Bess, Bessie, Beth, Bethanie, Bethann, Bethany,
Bethel, Betsey, Betsy, Bette, Bettie, Bettina, Betty, Bettyann, Bettye,
Beula, Beulah, Bev, Beverlee, Beverley, Beverly, Bianca, Bibi, Billi,
Billie, Billy, Billye, Birdie, Birgit, Blair, Blake, Blanca, Blanch,
Blanche, Blondell, Blossom, Blythe, Bobbi, Bobbie, Bobby, Bobbye,
Bobette, Bok, Bong, Bonita, Bonnie, Bonny, Branda, Brande, Brandee,
Brandi, Brandie, Brandon, Brandy, Breana, Breann, Breanna, Breanne, Bree,
Brenda, Brenna, Brett, Brian, Briana, Brianna, Brianne, Bridget,
Bridgett, Bridgette, Brigette, Brigid, Brigida, Brigitte, Brinda,
Britany, Britney, Britni, Britt, Britta, Brittaney, Brittani, Brittanie,
Brittany, Britteny, Brittney, Brittni, Brittny, Bronwyn, Brook, Brooke,
Bruna, Brunilda, Bryanna, Brynn, Buena, Buffy, Bula, Bulah, Bunny, Burma,
Caitlin, Caitlyn, Calandra, Calista, Callie, Camelia, Camellia, Cameron,
Cami, Camie, Camila, Camilla, Camille, Cammie, Cammy, Candace, Candance,
Candelaria, Candi, Candice, Candida, Candie, Candis, Candra, Candy,
Candyce, Caprice, Cara, Caren, Carey, Cari, Caridad, Carie, Carin,
Carina, Carisa, Carissa, Carita, Carl, Carla, Carlee, Carleen, Carlena,
Carlene, Carletta, Carley, Carli, Carlie, Carline, Carlita, Carlos,
Carlota, Carlotta, Carly, Carlyn, Carma, Carman, Carmel, Carmela,
Carmelia, Carmelina, Carmelita, Carmella, Carmen, Carmina, Carmon, Carol,
Carola, Carolann, Carole, Carolee, Carolin, Carolina, Caroline, Caroll,
Carolyn, Carolyne, Carolynn, Caron, Caroyln, Carri, Carrie, Carrol,
Carroll, Carry, Cary, Caryl, Carylon, Caryn, Casandra, Casey, Casie,
Casimira, Cassandra, Cassaundra, Cassey, Cassi, Cassidy, Cassie,
Cassondra, Cassy, Catalina, Catarina, Caterina, Catharine, Catherin,
Catherina, Catherine, Cathern, Catheryn, Cathey, Cathi, Cathie, Cathleen,
Cathrine, Cathryn, Cathy, Catina, Catrice, Catrina, Cayla, Cecelia,
Cecil, Cecila, Cecile, Cecilia, Cecille, Cecily, Celena, Celesta,
Celeste, Celestina, Celestine, Celia, Celina, Celinda, Celine, Celsa,
Ceola, Chae, Chan, Chana, Chanda, Chandra, Chanel, Chanell, Chanelle,
Chang, Chantal, Chantay, Chante, Chantel, Chantell, Chantelle, Chara,
Charis, Charise, Charissa, Charisse, Charita, Charity, Charla, Charleen,
Charlena, Charlene, Charles, Charlesetta, Charlette, Charlie, Charline,
Charlott, Charlotte, Charlsie, Charlyn, Charmain, Charmaine, Charolette,
Chasidy, Chasity, Chassidy, Chastity, Chau, Chaya, Chelsea, Chelsey,
Chelsie, Cher, Chere, Cheree, Cherelle, Cheri, Cherie, Cherilyn, Cherise,
Cherish, Cherly, Cherlyn, Cherri, Cherrie, Cherry, Cherryl, Chery,
Cheryl, Cheryle, Cheryll, Cheyenne, Chi, Chia, Chieko, Chin, China,
Ching, Chiquita, Chloe, Chong, Chris, Chrissy, Christa, Christal,
Christeen, Christel, Christen, Christena, Christene, Christi, Christia,
Christian, Christiana, Christiane, Christie, Christin, Christina,
Christine, Christinia, Christopher, Christy, Chrystal, Chu, Chun, Chung,
Ciara, Cicely, Ciera, Cierra, Cinda, Cinderella, Cindi, Cindie, Cindy,
Cinthia, Cira, Clair, Claire, Clara, Clare, Clarence, Claretha, Claretta,
Claribel, Clarice, Clarinda, Clarine, Claris, Clarisa, Clarissa, Clarita,
Classie, Claude, Claudette, Claudia, Claudie, Claudine, Clelia,
Clemencia, Clementina, Clementine, Clemmie, Cleo, Cleopatra, Cleora,
Cleotilde, Cleta, Clora, Clorinda, Clotilde, Clyde, Codi, Cody, Colby,
Coleen, Colene, Coletta, Colette, Colleen, Collen, Collene, Collette,
Concepcion, Conception, Concetta, Concha, Conchita, Connie, Constance,
Consuela, Consuelo, Contessa, Cora, Coral, Coralee, Coralie, Corazon,
Cordelia, Cordia, Cordie, Coreen, Corene, Coretta, Corey, Cori, Corie,
Corina, Corine, Corinna, Corinne, Corliss, Cornelia, Corrie, Corrin,
Corrina, Corrine, Corrinne, Cortney, Cory, Courtney, Creola, Cris,
Criselda, Crissy, Crista, Cristal, Cristen, Cristi, Cristie, Cristin,
Cristina, Cristine, Cristy, Cruz, Crysta, Crystal, Crystle, Cuc, Curtis,
Cyndi, Cyndy, Cynthia, Cyrstal, Cythia, Dacia, Dagmar, Dagny, Dahlia,
Daina, Daine, Daisey, Daisy, Dakota, Dale, Dalene, Dalia, Dalila, Dallas,
Damaris, Dan, Dana, Danae, Danelle, Danette, Dani, Dania, Danica, Daniel,
Daniela, Daniele, Daniell, Daniella, Danielle, Danika, Danille, Danita,
Dann, Danna, Dannette, Dannie, Dannielle, Danuta, Danyel, Danyell,
Danyelle, Daphine, Daphne, Dara, Darby, Darcel, Darcey, Darci, Darcie,
Darcy, Daria, Darla, Darleen, Darlena, Darlene, Darline, Darnell, Daryl,
David, Davida, Davina, Dawn, Dawna, Dawne, Dayle, Dayna, Daysi, Deadra,
Dean, Deana, Deandra, Deandrea, Deane, Deann, Deanna, Deanne, Deb, Debbi,
Debbie, Debbra, Debby, Debera, Debi, Debora, Deborah, Debra, Debrah,
Debroah, Dede, Dedra, Dee, Deeann, Deeanna, Deedee, Deedra, Deena,
Deetta, Deidra, Deidre, Deirdre, Deja, Delaine, Delana, Delcie, Delena,
Delfina, Delia, Delicia, Delila, Delilah, Delinda, Delisa, Dell, Della,
Delma, Delmy, Delois, Deloise, Delora, Deloras, Delores, Deloris,
Delorse, Delpha, Delphia, Delphine, Delsie, Delta, Demetra, Demetria,
Demetrice, Demetrius, Dena, Denae, Deneen, Denese, Denice, Denise,
Denisha, Denisse, Denita, Denna, Dennis, Dennise, Denny, Denyse, Deon,
Deonna, Desirae, Desire, Desiree, Despina, Dessie, Destiny, Detra, Devin,
Devon, Devona, Devora, Devorah, Dia, Diamond, Dian, Diana, Diane, Diann,
Dianna, Dianne, Diedra, Diedre, Dierdre, Digna, Dimple, Dina, Dinah,
Dinorah, Dion, Dione, Dionna, Dionne, Divina, Dixie, Dodie, Dollie,
Dolly, Dolores, Doloris, Domenica, Dominga, Dominica, Dominique,
Dominque, Domitila, Domonique, Dona, Donald, Donella, Donetta, Donette,
Dong, Donita, Donna, Donnetta, Donnette, Donnie, Donya, Dora, Dorathy,
Dorcas, Doreatha, Doreen, Dorene, Doretha, Dorethea, Doretta, Dori,
Doria, Dorian, Dorie, Dorinda, Dorine, Doris, Dorla, Dorotha, Dorothea,
Dorothy, Dorris, Dortha, Dorthea, Dorthey, Dorthy, Dot, Dottie, Dotty,
Dovie, Dreama, Drema, Drew, Drucilla, Drusilla, Dulce, Dulcie, Dung,
Dusti, Dusty, Dwana, Dyan, Earlean, Earleen, Earlene, Earlie, Earline,
Earnestine, Eartha, Easter, Eboni, Ebonie, Ebony, Echo, Eda, Edda, Eddie,
Edelmira, Eden, Edie, Edith, Edna, Edra, Edris, Edward, Edwina, Edyth,
Edythe, Effie, Ehtel, Eileen, Eilene, Ela, Eladia, Elaina, Elaine, Elana,
Elane, Elanor, Elayne, Elba, Elda, Eldora, Eleanor, Eleanora, Eleanore,
Elease, Elena, Elene, Eleni, Elenor, Elenora, Elenore, Eleonor, Eleonora,
Eleonore, Elfreda, Elfrieda, Elfriede, Elia, Eliana, Elicia, Elida,
Elidia, Elin, Elina, Elinor, Elinore, Elisa, Elisabeth, Elise, Elisha,
Elissa, Eliz, Eliza, Elizabet, Elizabeth, Elizbeth, Elizebeth, Elke,
Ella, Ellamae, Ellan, Ellen, Ellena, Elli, Ellie, Ellis, Elly, Ellyn,
Elma, Elmer, Elmira, Elna, Elnora, Elodia, Elois, Eloisa, Eloise,
Elouise, Elsa, Else, Elsie, Elsy, Elva, Elvera, Elvia, Elvie, Elvina,
Elvira, Elwanda, Elyse, Elza, Ema, Emelda, Emelia, Emelina, Emeline,
Emely, Emerald, Emerita, Emiko, Emilee, Emilia, Emilie, Emily, Emma,
Emmaline, Emmie, Emmy, Emogene, Ena, Enda, Enedina, Eneida, Enid, Enola,
Enriqueta, Epifania, Era, Eric, Erica, Ericka, Erika, Erin, Erinn,
Erlene, Erlinda, Erline, Erma, Ermelinda, Erminia, Erna, Ernestina,
Ernestine, Eryn, Esmeralda, Esperanza, Essie, Esta, Estefana, Estela,
Estell, Estella, Estelle, Ester, Esther, Estrella, Etha, Ethel, Ethelene,
Ethelyn, Ethyl, Etsuko, Etta, Ettie, Eufemia, Eugena, Eugene, Eugenia,
Eugenie, Eula, Eulah, Eulalia, Eun, Euna, Eunice, Eura, Eusebia,
Eustolia, Eva, Evalyn, Evan, Evangelina, Evangeline, Eve, Evelia, Evelin,
Evelina, Eveline, Evelyn, Evelyne, Evelynn, Evette, Evia, Evie, Evita,
Evon, Evonne, Ewa, Exie, Fabiola, Fae, Fairy, Faith, Fallon, Fannie,
Fanny, Farah, Farrah, Fatima, Fatimah, Faustina, Faviola, Fawn, Fay,
Faye, Fe, Felecia, Felica, Felice, Felicia, Felicidad, Felicita,
Felicitas, Felipa, Felisa, Felisha, Fermina, Fern, Fernanda, Fernande,
Ferne, Fidela, Fidelia, Filomena, Fiona, Flavia, Fleta, Flo, Flor, Flora,
Florance, Florence, Florencia, Florene, Florentina, Floretta, Floria,
Florida, Florinda, Florine, Florrie, Flossie, Floy, Fonda, Fran, France,
Francene, Frances, Francesca, Franchesca, Francie, Francina, Francine,
Francis, Francisca, Francisco, Francoise, Frank, Frankie, Fransisca,
Fred, Freda, Fredda, Freddie, Frederica, Fredericka, Fredia, Fredricka,
Freeda, Freida, Frida, Frieda, Fumiko, Gabriel, Gabriela, Gabriele,
Gabriella, Gabrielle, Gail, Gala, Gale, Galina, Garnet, Garnett, Gary,
Gay, Gaye, Gayla, Gayle, Gaylene, Gaynell, Gaynelle, Gearldine, Gema,
Gemma, Gena, Gene, Genesis, Geneva, Genevie, Genevieve, Genevive, Genia,
Genie, Genna, Gennie, Genny, Genoveva, Georgann, George, Georgeann,
Georgeanna, Georgene, Georgetta, Georgette, Georgia, Georgiana,
Georgiann, Georgianna, Georgianne, Georgie, Georgina, Georgine, Gerald,
Geraldine, Geralyn, Gerda, Geri, Germaine, Gerri, Gerry, Gertha, Gertie,
Gertrud, Gertrude, Gertrudis, Gertude, Ghislaine, Gia, Gianna, Gidget,
Gigi, Gilberte, Gilda, Gillian, Gilma, Gina, Ginette, Ginger, Ginny,
Giovanna, Gisela, Gisele, Giselle, Gita, Giuseppina, Gladis, Glady,
Gladys, Glayds, Glenda, Glendora, Glenn, Glenna, Glennie, Glennis,
Glinda, Gloria, Glory, Glynda, Glynis, Golda, Golden, Goldie, Grace,
Gracia, Gracie, Graciela, Grayce, Grazyna, Gregoria, Gregory, Greta,
Gretchen, Gretta, Gricelda, Grisel, Griselda, Guadalupe, Gudrun,
Guillermina, Gussie, Gwen, Gwenda, Gwendolyn, Gwenn, Gwyn, Gwyneth, Ha,
Hae, Hailey, Haley, Halina, Halley, Hallie, Han, Hana, Hang, Hanh, Hanna,
Hannah, Hannelore, Harmony, Harold, Harriet, Harriett, Harriette, Hassie,
Hattie, Haydee, Hayley, Hazel, Heather, Hedwig, Hedy, Hee, Heide, Heidi,
Heidy, Heike, Helaine, Helen, Helena, Helene, Helga, Hellen, Henrietta,
Henriette, Henry, Herlinda, Herma, Hermelinda, Hermila, Hermina, Hermine,
Herminia, Herta, Hertha, Hester, Hettie, Hiedi, Hien, Hilaria, Hilary,
Hilda, Hilde, Hildegard, Hildegarde, Hildred, Hillary, Hilma, Hiroko,
Hisako, Hoa, Holley, Holli, Hollie, Hollis, Holly, Honey, Hong, Hope,
Hortencia, Hortense, Hortensia, Hsiu, Hue, Hui, Hulda, Huong, Hwa,
Hyacinth, Hye, Hyo, Hyon, Hyun, Ida, Idalia, Idell, Idella, Iesha,
Ignacia, Ila, Ilana, Ilda, Ileana, Ileen, Ilene, Iliana, Illa, Ilona,
Ilse, Iluminada, Ima, Imelda, Imogene, In, Ina, India, Indira, Inell,
Ines, Inez, Inga, Inge, Ingeborg, Inger, Ingrid, Inocencia, Iola, Iona,
Ione, Ira, Iraida, Irena, Irene, Irina, Iris, Irish, Irma, Irmgard, Isa,
Isabel, Isabell, Isabella, Isabelle, Isadora, Isaura, Isela, Isidra,
Isis, Isobel, Iva, Ivana, Ivelisse, Ivette, Ivey, Ivonne, Ivory, Ivy,
Izetta, Izola, Ja, Jacalyn, Jacelyn, Jacinda, Jacinta, Jack, Jackeline,
Jackelyn, Jacki, Jackie, Jacklyn, Jackqueline, Jaclyn, Jacqualine,
Jacque, Jacquelin, Jacqueline, Jacquelyn, Jacquelyne, Jacquelynn,
Jacquetta, Jacqui, Jacquie, Jacquiline, Jacquline, Jacqulyn, Jada, Jade,
Jadwiga, Jae, Jaime, Jaimee, Jaimie, Jaleesa, Jalisa, Jama, Jame, Jamee,
James, Jamey, Jami, Jamie, Jamika, Jamila, Jammie, Jan, Jana, Janae,
Janay, Jane, Janean, Janee, Janeen, Janel, Janell, Janella, Janelle,
Janene, Janessa, Janet, Janeth, Janett, Janetta, Janette, Janey, Jani,
Janice, Janie, Janiece, Janina, Janine, Janis, Janise, Janita, Jann,
Janna, Jannet, Jannette, Jannie, January, Janyce, Jaqueline, Jaquelyn,
Jasmin, Jasmine, Jason, Jaunita, Jay, Jaye, Jayme, Jaymie, Jayna, Jayne,
Jazmin, Jazmine, Jean, Jeana, Jeane, Jeanelle, Jeanene, Jeanett,
Jeanetta, Jeanette, Jeanice, Jeanie, Jeanine, Jeanmarie, Jeanna, Jeanne,
Jeannetta, Jeannette, Jeannie, Jeannine, Jeffie, Jeffrey, Jen, Jena,
Jenae, Jene, Jenee, Jenell, Jenelle, Jenette, Jeneva, Jeni, Jenice,
Jenifer, Jeniffer, Jenine, Jenise, Jenna, Jennefer, Jennell, Jennette,
Jenni, Jennie, Jennifer, Jenniffer, Jennine, Jenny, Jeraldine, Jeremy,
Jeri, Jerica, Jerilyn, Jerlene, Jerri, Jerrica, Jerrie, Jerry, Jesenia,
Jesica, Jesse, Jessenia, Jessi, Jessia, Jessica, Jessie, Jessika,
Jestine, Jesus, Jesusa, Jesusita, Jetta, Jettie, Jewel, Jewell, Ji, Jill,
Jillian, Jimmie, Jimmy, Jin, Jina, Jinny, Jo, Joan, Joana, Joane, Joanie,
Joann, Joanna, Joanne, Joannie, Joaquina, Jocelyn, Jodee, Jodi, Jodie,
Jody, Joe, Joeann, Joel, Joella, Joelle, Joellen, Joetta, Joette, Joey,
Johana, Johanna, Johanne, John, Johna, Johnetta, Johnette, Johnie,
Johnna, Johnnie, Johnny, Johnsie, Joi, Joie, Jolanda, Joleen, Jolene,
Jolie, Joline, Jolyn, Jolynn, Jon, Jona, Jone, Jonell, Jonelle, Jong,
Joni, Jonie, Jonna, Jonnie, Jordan, Jose, Josefa, Josefina, Josefine,
Joselyn, Joseph, Josephina, Josephine, Josette, Joshua, Josie, Joslyn,
Josphine, Jovan, Jovita, Joy, Joya, Joyce, Joycelyn, Joye, Juan, Juana,
Juanita, Jude, Judi, Judie, Judith, Judy, Jule, Julee, Julene, Juli,
Julia, Julian, Juliana, Juliane, Juliann, Julianna, Julianne, Julie,
Julieann, Julienne, Juliet, Julieta, Julietta, Juliette, Julio, Julissa,
June, Jung, Junie, Junita, Junko, Justa, Justin, Justina, Justine, Jutta,
Ka, Kacey, Kaci, Kacie, Kacy, Kai, Kaila, Kaitlin, Kaitlyn, Kala,
Kaleigh, Kaley, Kali, Kallie, Kalyn, Kam, Kamala, Kami, Kamilah, Kandace,
Kandi, Kandice, Kandis, Kandra, Kandy, Kanesha, Kanisha, Kara, Karan,
Kareen, Karen, Karena, Karey, Kari, Karie, Karima, Karin, Karina, Karine,
Karisa, Karissa, Karl, Karla, Karleen, Karlene, Karly, Karlyn, Karma,
Karmen, Karol, Karole, Karoline, Karolyn, Karon, Karren, Karri, Karrie,
Karry, Kary, Karyl, Karyn, Kasandra, Kasey, Kasha, Kasi, Kasie,
Kassandra, Kassie, Kate, Katelin, Katelyn, Katelynn, Katerine, Kathaleen,
Katharina, Katharine, Katharyn, Kathe, Katheleen, Katherin, Katherina,
Katherine, Kathern, Katheryn, Kathey, Kathi, Kathie, Kathleen, Kathlene,
Kathline, Kathlyn, Kathrin, Kathrine, Kathryn, Kathryne, Kathy, Kathyrn,
Kati, Katia, Katie, Katina, Katlyn, Katrice, Katrina, Kattie, Katy, Kay,
Kayce, Kaycee, Kaye, Kayla, Kaylee, Kayleen, Kayleigh, Kaylene, Kazuko,
Kecia, Keeley, Keely, Keena, Keesha, Keiko, Keila, Keira, Keisha, Keith,
Keitha, Keli, Kelle, Kellee, Kelley, Kelli, Kellie, Kelly, Kellye,
Kelsey, Kelsi, Kelsie, Kemberly, Kena, Kenda, Kendal, Kendall, Kendra,
Kenia, Kenisha, Kenna, Kenneth, Kenya, Kenyatta, Kenyetta, Kera, Keren,
Keri, Kerri, Kerrie, Kerry, Kerstin, Kesha, Keshia, Keturah, Keva, Kevin,
Khadijah, Khalilah, Kia, Kiana, Kiara, Kiera, Kiersten, Kiesha, Kiley,
Kim, Kimber, Kimberely, Kimberlee, Kimberley, Kimberli, Kimberlie,
Kimberly, Kimbery, Kimbra, Kimi, Kimiko, Kina, Kindra, Kira, Kirby,
Kirsten, Kirstie, Kirstin, Kisha, Kit, Kittie, Kitty, Kiyoko, Kizzie,
Kizzy, Klara, Kori, Kortney, Kourtney, Kris, Krishna, Krissy, Krista,
Kristal, Kristan, Kristeen, Kristel, Kristen, Kristi, Kristian, Kristie,
Kristin, Kristina, Kristine, Kristle, Kristy, Kristyn, Krysta, Krystal,
Krysten, Krystin, Krystina, Krystle, Krystyna, Kum, Kyla, Kyle, Kylee,
Kylie, Kym, Kymberly, Kyoko, Kyong, Kyra, Kyung, Lacey, Lachelle, Laci,
Lacie, Lacresha, Lacy, Ladawn, Ladonna, Lady, Lael, Lahoma, Lai, Laila,
Laine, Lajuana, Lakeesha, Lakeisha, Lakendra, Lakenya, Lakesha, Lakeshia,
Lakia, Lakiesha, Lakisha, Lakita, Lala, Lamonica, Lan, Lana, Lane,
Lanell, Lanelle, Lanette, Lang, Lani, Lanie, Lanita, Lannie, Lanora,
Laquanda, Laquita, Lara, Larae, Laraine, Laree, Larhonda, Larisa,
Larissa, Larita, Laronda, Larraine, Larry, Larue, Lasandra, Lashanda,
Lashandra, Lashaun, Lashaunda, Lashawn, Lashawna, Lashawnda, Lashay,
Lashell, Lashon, Lashonda, Lashunda, Lasonya, Latanya, Latarsha, Latasha,
Latashia, Latesha, Latia, Laticia, Latina, Latisha, Latonia, Latonya,
Latoria, Latosha, Latoya, Latoyia, Latrice, Latricia, Latrina, Latrisha,
Launa, Laura, Lauralee, Lauran, Laure, Laureen, Laurel, Lauren, Laurena,
Laurence, Laurene, Lauretta, Laurette, Lauri, Laurice, Laurie, Laurinda,
Laurine, Lauryn, Lavada, Lavelle, Lavenia, Lavera, Lavern, Laverna,
Laverne, Laveta, Lavette, Lavina, Lavinia, Lavon, Lavona, Lavonda,
Lavone, Lavonia, Lavonna, Lavonne, Lawana, Lawanda, Lawanna, Lawrence,
Layla, Layne, Le, Lea, Leah, Lean, Leana, Leandra, Leann, Leanna, Leanne,
Leanora, Leatha, Leatrice, Lecia, Leda, Lee, Leeann, Leeanna, Leeanne,
Leena, Leesa, Leia, Leida, Leigh, Leigha, Leighann, Leila, Leilani,
Leisa, Leisha, Lekisha, Lela, Lelah, Lelia, Lena, Lenita, Lenna, Lennie,
Lenora, Lenore, Leo, Leola, Leoma, Leon, Leona, Leonarda, Leone, Leonia,
Leonida, Leonie, Leonila, Leonor, Leonora, Leonore, Leontine, Leora,
Leota, Lera, Lesa, Lesha, Lesia, Leslee, Lesley, Lesli, Leslie, Lessie,
Lester, Leta, Letha, Leticia, Letisha, Letitia, Lettie, Letty, Lewis,
Lexie, Lezlie, Li, Lia, Liana, Liane, Lianne, Libbie, Libby, Liberty,
Librada, Lida, Lidia, Lien, Lieselotte, Ligia, Lila, Lili, Lilia, Lilian,
Liliana, Lilla, Lilli, Lillia, Lilliam, Lillian, Lilliana, Lillie, Lilly,
Lily, Lin, Lina, Linda, Lindsay, Lindsey, Lindsy, Lindy, Linette, Ling,
Linh, Linn, Linnea, Linnie, Linsey, Lisa, Lisabeth, Lisandra, Lisbeth,
Lise, Lisette, Lisha, Lissa, Lissette, Lita, Livia, Liz, Liza, Lizabeth,
Lizbeth, Lizeth, Lizette, Lizzette, Lizzie, Loan, Logan, Loida, Lois,
Loise, Lola, Lolita, Loma, Lona, Londa, Loni, Lonna, Lonnie, Lora,
Loraine, Loralee, Lore, Lorean, Loree, Loreen, Lorelei, Loren, Lorena,
Lorene, Lorenza, Loreta, Loretta, Lorette, Lori, Loria, Loriann, Lorie,
Lorilee, Lorina, Lorinda, Lorine, Loris, Lorita, Lorna, Lorraine,
Lorretta, Lorri, Lorriane, Lorrie, Lorrine, Lory, Lottie, Lou, Louann,
Louanne, Louella, Louetta, Louie, Louis, Louisa, Louise, Loura, Lourdes,
Lourie, Louvenia, Love, Lovella, Lovetta, Lovie, Loyce, Lu, Luana, Luann,
Luanna, Luanne, Luba, Luci, Lucia, Luciana, Lucie, Lucienne, Lucila,
Lucile, Lucilla, Lucille, Lucina, Lucinda, Lucrecia, Lucretia, Lucy,
Ludie, Ludivina, Lue, Luella, Luetta, Luis, Luisa, Luise, Lula, Lulu,
Luna, Lupe, Lupita, Lura, Lurlene, Lurline, Luvenia, Luz, Lyda, Lydia,
Lyla, Lyn, Lynda, Lyndia, Lyndsay, Lyndsey, Lynell, Lynelle, Lynetta,
Lynette, Lynn, Lynna, Lynne, Lynnette, Lynsey, Ma, Mabel, Mabelle, Mable,
Machelle, Macie, Mackenzie, Macy, Madalene, Madaline, Madalyn, Maddie,
Madelaine, Madeleine, Madelene, Madeline, Madelyn, Madge, Madie, Madison,
Madlyn, Madonna, Mae, Maegan, Mafalda, Magali, Magaly, Magan, Magaret,
Magda, Magdalen, Magdalena, Magdalene, Magen, Maggie, Magnolia, Mahalia,
Mai, Maia, Maida, Maile, Maira, Maire, Maisha, Maisie, Majorie, Makeda,
Malena, Malia, Malika, Malinda, Malisa, Malissa, Malka, Mallie, Mallory,
Malorie, Malvina, Mamie, Mammie, Man, Mana, Manda, Mandi, Mandie, Mandy,
Manie, Manuela, Many, Mao, Maple, Mara, Maragaret, Maragret, Maranda,
Marcela, Marcelene, Marcelina, Marceline, Marcell, Marcella, Marcelle,
Marcene, Marchelle, Marci, Marcia, Marcie, Marcy, Mardell, Maren, Marg,
Margaret, Margareta, Margarete, Margarett, Margaretta, Margarette,
Margarita, Margarite, Margart, Marge, Margene, Margeret, Margert,
Margery, Marget, Margherita, Margie, Margit, Margo, Margorie, Margot,
Margret, Margrett, Marguerita, Marguerite, Margurite, Margy, Marhta,
Mari, Maria, Mariah, Mariam, Marian, Mariana, Marianela, Mariann,
Marianna, Marianne, Maribel, Maribeth, Marica, Maricela, Maricruz, Marie,
Mariel, Mariela, Mariella, Marielle, Marietta, Mariette, Mariko, Marilee,
Marilou, Marilu, Marilyn, Marilynn, Marin, Marina, Marinda, Marine,
Mario, Marion, Maris, Marisa, Marisela, Marisha, Marisol, Marissa,
Marita, Maritza, Marivel, Marjorie, Marjory, Mark, Marketta, Markita,
Marla, Marlana, Marleen, Marlen, Marlena, Marlene, Marlin, Marline,
Marlo, Marlyn, Marlys, Marna, Marni, Marnie, Marquerite, Marquetta,
Marquita, Marquitta, Marry, Marsha, Marshall, Marta, Marth, Martha,
Marti, Martin, Martina, Martine, Marty, Marva, Marvel, Marvella, Marvis,
Marx, Mary, Marya, Maryalice, Maryam, Maryann, Maryanna, Maryanne,
Marybelle, Marybeth, Maryellen, Maryetta, Maryjane, Maryjo, Maryland,
Marylee, Marylin, Maryln, Marylou, Marylouise, Marylyn, Marylynn,
Maryrose, Masako, Matha, Mathilda, Mathilde, Matilda, Matilde, Matthew,
Mattie, Maud, Maude, Maudie, Maura, Maureen, Maurice, Maurine, Maurita,
Mavis, Maxie, Maxima, Maximina, Maxine, May, Maya, Maybell, Maybelle,
Maye, Mayme, Mayola, Mayra, Mazie, Mckenzie, Meagan, Meaghan, Mechelle,
Meda, Mee, Meg, Megan, Meggan, Meghan, Meghann, Mei, Melaine, Melani,
Melania, Melanie, Melany, Melba, Melda, Melia, Melida, Melina, Melinda,
Melisa, Melissa, Melissia, Melita, Mellie, Mellisa, Mellissa, Melodee,
Melodi, Melodie, Melody, Melonie, Melony, Melva, Melvin, Melvina,
Melynda, Mendy, Mercedes, Mercedez, Mercy, Meredith, Meri, Merideth,
Meridith, Merilyn, Merissa, Merle, Merlene, Merlyn, Merna, Merri, Merrie,
Merrilee, Merrill, Merry, Mertie, Meryl, Meta, Mi, Mia, Mica, Micaela,
Micah, Micha, Michael, Michaela, Michaele, Michal, Micheal, Michel,
Michele, Michelina, Micheline, Michell, Michelle, Michiko, Mickey, Micki,
Mickie, Miesha, Migdalia, Mignon, Miguelina, Mika, Mikaela, Mike, Miki,
Mikki, Mila, Milagro, Milagros, Milda, Mildred, Milissa, Millicent,
Millie, Milly, Mimi, Min, Mina, Minda, Mindi, Mindy, Minerva, Ming, Minh,
Minna, Minnie, Minta, Mira, Miranda, Mireille, Mirella, Mireya, Miriam,
Mirian, Mirna, Mirta, Mirtha, Misha, Miss, Missy, Misti, Mistie, Misty,
Mitchell, Mitsue, Mitsuko, Mittie, Mitzi, Mitzie, Miyoko, Modesta, Moira,
Mollie, Molly, Mona, Monet, Monica, Monika, Monique, Monnie, Monserrate,
Moon, Mora, Morgan, Moriah, Mozell, Mozella, Mozelle, Mui, Muoi, Muriel,
My, Myesha, Myong, Myra, Myriam, Myrl, Myrle, Myrna, Myrta, Myrtice,
Myrtie, Myrtis, Myrtle, Myung, Na, Nada, Nadene, Nadia, Nadine, Naida,
Nakesha, Nakia, Nakisha, Nakita, Nam, Nan, Nana, Nancee, Nancey, Nanci,
Nancie, Nancy, Nanette, Nannette, Nannie, Naoma, Naomi, Narcisa, Natacha,
Natalia, Natalie, Natalya, Natasha, Natashia, Nathalie, Natisha,
Natividad, Natosha, Necole, Neda, Nedra, Neely, Neida, Nelda, Nelia,
Nelida, Nell, Nella, Nelle, Nellie, Nelly, Nena, Nenita, Neoma, Neomi,
Nereida, Nerissa, Nery, Neta, Nettie, Neva, Nevada, Nga, Ngan, Ngoc,
Nguyet, Nia, Nichelle, Nichol, Nichole, Nicholle, Nicki, Nickie, Nickole,
Nicky, Nicol, Nicola, Nicolasa, Nicole, Nicolette, Nicolle, Nida, Nidia,
Niesha, Nieves, Niki, Nikia, Nikita, Nikki, Nikole, Nila, Nilda, Nilsa,
Nina, Ninfa, Nisha, Nita, Nobuko, Noel, Noelia, Noella, Noelle, Noemi,
Nohemi, Nola, Noma, Nona, Nora, Norah, Noreen, Norene, Noriko, Norine,
Norma, Norman, Nova, Novella, Nu, Nubia, Numbers, Nydia, Nyla, Obdulia,
Ocie, Octavia, Oda, Odelia, Odell, Odessa, Odette, Odilia, Ofelia, Ok,
Ola, Olene, Oleta, Olevia, Olga, Olimpia, Olinda, Oliva, Olive, Olivia,
Ollie, Olympia, Oma, Omega, Ona, Oneida, Onie, Onita, Opal, Ophelia, Ora,
Oralee, Oralia, Oretha, Orpha, Oscar, Ossie, Otelia, Otha, Otilia, Ouida,
Ozell, Ozella, Ozie, Pa, Page, Paige, Palma, Palmira, Pam, Pamala,
Pamela, Pamelia, Pamella, Pamila, Pamula, Pandora, Pansy, Paola, Paris,
Parthenia, Particia, Pasty, Pat, Patience, Patria, Patrica, Patrice,
Patricia, Patrick, Patrina, Patsy, Patti, Pattie, Patty, Paul, Paula,
Paulene, Pauletta, Paulette, Paulina, Pauline, Paulita, Paz, Pearl,
Pearle, Pearlene, Pearlie, Pearline, Pearly, Peg, Peggie, Peggy, Pei,
Penelope, Penney, Penni, Pennie, Penny, Perla, Perry, Peter, Petra,
Petrina, Petronila, Phebe, Phillis, Philomena, Phoebe, Phung, Phuong,
Phylicia, Phylis, Phyliss, Phyllis, Pia, Piedad, Pilar, Ping, Pinkie,
Piper, Pok, Polly, Porsche, Porsha, Portia, Precious, Pricilla, Princess,
Priscila, Priscilla, Providencia, Prudence, Pura, Qiana, Queen, Queenie,
Quiana, Quinn, Quyen, Rachael, Rachal, Racheal, Rachel, Rachele, Rachell,
Rachelle, Racquel, Rae, Raeann, Raelene, Rafaela, Raguel, Raina, Raisa,
Ramona, Ramonita, Rana, Ranae, Randa, Randee, Randi, Randy, Ranee,
Raquel, Rasheeda, Rashida, Raven, Ray, Raye, Raylene, Raymond, Raymonde,
Rayna, Rea, Reagan, Reanna, Reatha, Reba, Rebbeca, Rebbecca, Rebeca,
Rebecca, Rebecka, Rebekah, Reda, Reena, Refugia, Refugio, Regan, Regena,
Regenia, Regina, Regine, Reginia, Reiko, Reina, Reita, Rema, Remedios,
Remona, Rena, Renae, Renata, Renate, Renay, Renda, Rene, Renea, Renee,
Renetta, Renita, Renna, Ressie, Reta, Retha, Retta, Reva, Reyna,
Reynalda, Rhea, Rheba, Rhiannon, Rhoda, Rhona, Rhonda, Ria, Ricarda,
Richard, Richelle, Ricki, Rickie, Rikki, Rima, Rina, Risa, Rita, Riva,
Rivka, Robbi, Robbie, Robbin, Robbyn, Robena, Robert, Roberta, Roberto,
Robin, Robyn, Rochel, Rochell, Rochelle, Rocio, Rolanda, Rolande, Roma,
Romaine, Romana, Romelia, Romona, Rona, Ronald, Ronda, Roni, Ronna,
Ronni, Ronnie, Rory, Rosa, Rosalba, Rosalee, Rosalia, Rosalie, Rosalina,
Rosalind, Rosalinda, Rosaline, Rosalva, Rosalyn, Rosamaria, Rosamond,
Rosana, Rosann, Rosanna, Rosanne, Rosaria, Rosario, Rosaura, Rose,
Roseann, Roseanna, Roseanne, Roselee, Roselia, Roseline, Rosella,
Roselle, Roselyn, Rosemarie, Rosemary, Rosena, Rosenda, Rosetta, Rosette,
Rosia, Rosie, Rosina, Rosio, Rosita, Roslyn, Rossana, Rossie, Rosy,
Rowena, Roxana, Roxane, Roxann, Roxanna, Roxanne, Roxie, Roxy, Roy,
Royce, Rozanne, Rozella, Rubi, Rubie, Ruby, Rubye, Rudy, Rufina, Russell,
Ruth, Rutha, Ruthann, Ruthanne, Ruthe, Ruthie, Ryan, Ryann, Sabina,
Sabine, Sabra, Sabrina, Sacha, Sachiko, Sade, Sadie, Sadye, Sage, Salena,
Salina, Salley, Sallie, Sally, Salome, Sam, Samantha, Samara, Samatha,
Samella, Samira, Sammie, Sammy, Samuel, Sana, Sanda, Sandee, Sandi,
Sandie, Sandra, Sandy, Sang, Sanjuana, Sanjuanita, Sanora, Santa,
Santana, Santina, Santos, Sara, Sarah, Sarai, Saran, Sari, Sarina,
Sarita, Sasha, Saturnina, Sau, Saundra, Savanna, Savannah, Scarlet,
Scarlett, Scott, Scottie, Sean, Season, Sebrina, See, Seema, Selena,
Selene, Selina, Selma, Sena, Senaida, September, Serafina, Serena,
Serina, Serita, Setsuko, Sha, Shae, Shaina, Shakia, Shakira, Shakita,
Shala, Shalanda, Shalon, Shalonda, Shameka, Shamika, Shan, Shana, Shanae,
Shanda, Shandi, Shandra, Shane, Shaneka, Shanel, Shanell, Shanelle,
Shani, Shanice, Shanika, Shaniqua, Shanita, Shanna, Shannan, Shannon,
Shanon, Shanta, Shantae, Shantay, Shante, Shantel, Shantell, Shantelle,
Shanti, Shaquana, Shaquita, Shara, Sharan, Sharda, Sharee, Sharell,
Sharen, Shari, Sharice, Sharie, Sharika, Sharilyn, Sharita, Sharla,
Sharleen, Sharlene, Sharmaine, Sharolyn, Sharon, Sharonda, Sharri,
Sharron, Sharyl, Sharyn, Shasta, Shaun, Shauna, Shaunda, Shaunna,
Shaunta, Shaunte, Shavon, Shavonda, Shavonne, Shawana, Shawanda,
Shawanna, Shawn, Shawna, Shawnda, Shawnee, Shawnna, Shawnta, Shay,
Shayla, Shayna, Shayne, Shea, Sheba, Sheena, Sheila, Sheilah, Shela,
Shelba, Shelby, Shelia, Shella, Shelley, Shelli, Shellie, Shelly,
Shemeka, Shemika, Shena, Shenika, Shenita, Shenna, Shera, Sheree,
Sherell, Sheri, Sherice, Sheridan, Sherie, Sherika, Sherill, Sherilyn,
Sherise, Sherita, Sherlene, Sherley, Sherly, Sherlyn, Sheron, Sherrell,
Sherri, Sherrie, Sherril, Sherrill, Sherron, Sherry, Sherryl, Shery,
Sheryl, Sheryll, Shiela, Shila, Shiloh, Shin, Shira, Shirely, Shirl,
Shirlee, Shirleen, Shirlene, Shirley, Shirly, Shizue, Shizuko, Shona,
Shonda, Shondra, Shonna, Shonta, Shoshana, Shu, Shyla, Sibyl, Sidney,
Sierra, Signe, Sigrid, Silva, Silvana, Silvia, Sima, Simona, Simone,
Simonne, Sina, Sindy, Siobhan, Sirena, Siu, Sixta, Skye, Slyvia, So,
Socorro, Sofia, Soila, Sol, Solange, Soledad, Somer, Sommer, Son, Sona,
Sondra, Song, Sonia, Sonja, Sonya, Soo, Sook, Soon, Sophia, Sophie,
Soraya, Sparkle, Spring, Stacee, Stacey, Staci, Stacia, Stacie, Stacy,
Star, Starla, Starr, Stasia, Stefani, Stefania, Stefanie, Stefany,
Steffanie, Stella, Stepanie, Stephaine, Stephane, Stephani, Stephania,
Stephanie, Stephany, Stephen, Stephenie, Stephine, Stephnie, Steven,
Stevie, Stormy, Su, Suanne, Sudie, Sue, Sueann, Suellen, Suk, Sulema,
Sumiko, Summer, Sun, Sunday, Sung, Sunni, Sunny, Sunshine, Susan, Susana,
Susann, Susanna, Susannah, Susanne, Susie, Susy, Suzan, Suzann, Suzanna,
Suzanne, Suzette, Suzi, Suzie, Suzy, Svetlana, Sybil, Syble, Sydney,
Sylvia, Sylvie, Synthia, Syreeta, Ta, Tabatha, Tabetha, Tabitha, Tai,
Taina, Taisha, Tajuana, Takako, Takisha, Talia, Talisha, Talitha, Tam,
Tama, Tamala, Tamar, Tamara, Tamatha, Tambra, Tameika, Tameka, Tamekia,
Tamela, Tamera, Tamesha, Tami, Tamica, Tamie, Tamika, Tamiko, Tamisha,
Tammara, Tammera, Tammi, Tammie, Tammy, Tamra, Tana, Tandra, Tandy,
Taneka, Tanesha, Tangela, Tania, Tanika, Tanisha, Tanja, Tanna, Tanya,
Tara, Tarah, Taren, Tari, Tarra, Tarsha, Taryn, Tasha, Tashia, Tashina,
Tasia, Tatiana, Tatum, Tatyana, Taunya, Tawana, Tawanda, Tawanna, Tawna,
Tawny, Tawnya, Taylor, Tayna, Teena, Tegan, Teisha, Telma, Temeka,
Temika, Tempie, Temple, Tena, Tenesha, Tenisha, Tennie, Tennille,
Teodora, Teofila, Tequila, Tera, Tereasa, Teresa, Terese, Teresia,
Teresita, Teressa, Teri, Terica, Terina, Terisa, Terra, Terrell, Terresa,
Terri, Terrie, Terrilyn, Terry, Tesha, Tess, Tessa, Tessie, Thalia,
Thanh, Thao, Thea, Theda, Thelma, Theo, Theodora, Theola, Theresa,
Therese, Theresia, Theressa, Thersa, Thi, Thomas, Thomasena, Thomasina,
Thomasine, Thora, Thresa, Thu, Thuy, Tia, Tiana, Tianna, Tiara, Tien,
Tiera, Tierra, Tiesha, Tifany, Tiffaney, Tiffani, Tiffanie, Tiffany,
Tiffiny, Tijuana, Tilda, Tillie, Timika, Timothy, Tina, Tinisha, Tiny,
Tisa, Tish, Tisha, Tobi, Tobie, Toby, Toccara, Toi, Tomasa, Tomeka, Tomi,
Tomika, Tomiko, Tommie, Tommy, Tommye, Tomoko, Tona, Tonda, Tonette,
Toni, Tonia, Tonie, Tonisha, Tonita, Tonja, Tony, Tonya, Tora, Tori,
Torie, Torri, Torrie, Tory, Tosha, Toshia, Toshiko, Tova, Towanda, Toya,
Tracee, Tracey, Traci, Tracie, Tracy, Tran, Trang, Travis, Treasa,
Treena, Trena, Tresa, Tressa, Tressie, Treva, Tricia, Trina, Trinh,
Trinidad, Trinity, Trish, Trisha, Trista, Tristan, Troy, Trudi, Trudie,
Trudy, Trula, Tu, Tula, Tuyet, Twana, Twanda, Twanna, Twila, Twyla,
Tyesha, Tyisha, Tyler, Tynisha, Tyra, Ula, Ulrike, Un, Una, Ursula, Usha,
Ute, Vada, Val, Valarie, Valda, Valencia, Valene, Valentina, Valentine,
Valeri, Valeria, Valerie, Valery, Vallie, Valorie, Valrie, Van, Vanda,
Vanesa, Vanessa, Vanetta, Vania, Vanita, Vanna, Vannesa, Vannessa,
Vashti, Vasiliki, Veda, Velda, Velia, Vella, Velma, Velva, Velvet, Vena,
Venessa, Venetta, Venice, Venita, Vennie, Venus, Veola, Vera, Verda,
Verdell, Verdie, Verena, Vergie, Verla, Verlene, Verlie, Verline, Verna,
Vernell, Vernetta, Vernia, Vernice, Vernie, Vernita, Vernon, Verona,
Veronica, Veronika, Veronique, Versie, Vertie, Vesta, Veta, Vi, Vicenta,
Vickey, Vicki, Vickie, Vicky, Victor, Victoria, Victorina, Vida, Viki,
Vikki, Vilma, Vina, Vincenza, Vinita, Vinnie, Viola, Violet, Violeta,
Violette, Virgen, Virgie, Virgil, Virgina, Virginia, Vita, Viva, Vivan,
Vivian, Viviana, Vivien, Vivienne, Voncile, Vonda, Vonnie, Wai, Walter,
Waltraud, Wan, Wanda, Waneta, Wanetta, Wanita, Wava, Wei, Wen, Wendi,
Wendie, Wendolyn, Wendy, Wenona, Wesley, Whitley, Whitney, Wilda,
Wilhelmina, Wilhemina, Willa, Willena, Willene, Willetta, Willette,
Willia, William, Willie, Williemae, Willodean, Willow, Wilma, Windy,
Winifred, Winnie, Winnifred, Winona, Winter, Wonda, Wynell, Wynona,
Xenia, Xiao, Xiomara, Xochitl, Xuan, Yadira, Yaeko, Yael, Yahaira,
Yajaira, Yan, Yang, Yanira, Yasmin, Yasmine, Yasuko, Yee, Yelena, Yen,
Yer, Yesenia, Yessenia, Yetta, Yevette, Yi, Ying, Yoko, Yolanda, Yolande,
Yolando, Yolonda, Yon, Yong, Yoshie, Yoshiko, Youlanda, Young, Yu,
Yuette, Yuk, Yuki, Yukiko, Yuko, Yulanda, Yun, Yung, Yuonne, Yuri,
Yuriko, Yvette, Yvone, Yvonne, Zada, Zaida, Zana, Zandra, Zelda, Zella,
Zelma, Zena, Zenaida, Zenia, Zenobia, Zetta, Zina, Zita, Zoe, Zofia,
Zoila, Zola, Zona, Zonia, Zora, Zoraida, Zula, Zulema, Zulma?

Did I have miss anyone? Hope not!

Kyle

Dec 2 '05 #15

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and you have been such an angel.

John... Visio MVP
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:x0****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
To all who read this ----

Consider what a jerk this "holier-than-thou" individual is who attacks my
responses to posters and then pollutes the newsgroup and sucks up
newsgroup server bandwidth with a post like this.

He's the same "holier-than-thou" individual who responded to a post with
etc, etc, etc.


steve-o you should learn how to trim.
Dec 2 '05 #16

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:mj*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Jim,

As I said, you are a class act!!
Too bad you are not.
If you go back earlier than about March of this year, you will only see my
four line signature line and only occasional "Contact me" responses.


So you were able to get away with abusing the newsgroup. That does not
justify you continuing to solicit.

John... Visio MVP
Dec 2 '05 #17

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You are an embarassment to what MVP stands for.

A previous poster was right on mark when he said about you --
"You are a hypocritical piece of shit."
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.

"John Marshall, MVP" <la******@stonehenge.ca> wrote in message
news:XJ******************************@magma.ca...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:mj*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Jim,

As I said, you are a class act!!


Too bad you are not.
If you go back earlier than about March of this year, you will only see
my four line signature line and only occasional "Contact me" responses.


So you were able to get away with abusing the newsgroup. That does not
justify you continuing to solicit.

John... Visio MVP

Dec 3 '05 #18

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:1V****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You are an embarassment to what MVP stands for.

A previous poster was right on mark when he said about you --
"You are a hypocritical piece of shit."


Steve,
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about you:

"yah go away pcdatabase, i dont need YOUR help. You greedy idiot, this forum
is to help people not to make money."

But let's leave this issue. You are not worth an answer any than this:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)

Btw: quite some visiters here yesterday ... More than we expected...
Maybe you are interested in the stats ??

Arno R
Dec 3 '05 #19

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Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about me:
Thank you so much for the help given on this problem. It has worked
beautifully and I now have the beginnings of a really useful database.
--
GeeJay
From Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted
12/2
7:11PM

Now why don't you take Salad's advise and grow up and get a life and quit
sending emails to my office.

"If you have anything to contribute to the group, contribute. Your war
with Datasheet is simply pissing and moaning in the wind for the sake of
nothing. Grow up and get a life."

Salad

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


"StopThisAdvertising" <StopThisAdvertising@DataShit> wrote in message
news:43**********************@text.nova.planet.nl. ..

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
news:1V****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You are an embarassment to what MVP stands for.

A previous poster was right on mark when he said about you --
"You are a hypocritical piece of shit."


Steve,
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about you:

"yah go away pcdatabase, i dont need YOUR help. You greedy idiot, this forum
is to help people not to make money."

But let's leave this issue. You are not worth an answer any than this:
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)

Btw: quite some visiters here yesterday ... More than we expected...
Maybe you are interested in the stats ??

Arno R
Dec 3 '05 #20

P: n/a
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:_9****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about me:
Thank you so much for the help given on this problem. It has worked
beautifully and I now have the beginnings of a really useful database.
--
GeeJay
In that case, you helped a user in the newsgroup for free. Which is what
these newsgroups were created for. I only take you to task when you try to
take users away from the free support of these newsgroups for your own
profit.
Now why don't you take Salad's advise and grow up and get a life and quit
sending emails to my office.


Your Salad is wilting. Haven't you worn out this one reference which you
seem to enjoy taking out of context.

Now you are accusing me of sending emails to your office? I have NEVER sent
you any emails to your office/house in Clarion! Do I get a retraction or
should I add it to the growing list of lies you have spouted in these
newsgroups?

John... Visio MVP
Dec 3 '05 #21

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You're nothing but an embarassment to what MVP stands for and a dimwit to
boot. My post had nothing to do with you, dimwit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"John Marshall, MVP" <la******@stonehenge.ca> wrote in message
news:b_********************@magma.ca...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:_9****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about me:
Thank you so much for the help given on this problem. It has worked
beautifully and I now have the beginnings of a really useful database.
--
GeeJay


In that case, you helped a user in the newsgroup for free. Which is what
these newsgroups were created for. I only take you to task when you try to
take users away from the free support of these newsgroups for your own
profit.
Now why don't you take Salad's advise and grow up and get a life and quit
sending emails to my office.


Your Salad is wilting. Haven't you worn out this one reference which you
seem to enjoy taking out of context.

Now you are accusing me of sending emails to your office? I have NEVER
sent you any emails to your office/house in Clarion! Do I get a retraction
or should I add it to the growing list of lies you have spouted in these
newsgroups?

John... Visio MVP

Dec 3 '05 #22

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PC Datasheet wrote:
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about me:
Thank you so much for the help given on this problem. It has worked
beautifully and I now have the beginnings of a really useful database.
--
GeeJay


Dear Santa

This is Steve.

I am writing to tell you about my behaviour this past calendar year.

It has been good. Very good ... nay, outstanding ... nay-nay exemplary.

I might even go so far as to say that I have been a paragon of virtue,
a shining example ... indeed a role model and inspiration to all Access
Developers everywhere
.... across this great land of ours, not to mention the entire universe!

-----------------------------------------------------------------

(apologies to Jim Davies 2005-12-04 -Garfield).

Dec 3 '05 #23

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John Marshall, MVP wrote:
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:_9****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about me:
Thank you so much for the help given on this problem. It has worked
beautifully and I now have the beginnings of a really useful database.
--
GeeJay


In that case, you helped a user in the newsgroup for free.


Did you consider GeeJay's style? Did you compare it with Steve's style
(when he's in civilized mode, that is)? Did you look at GeeJay's
headers? Did you look at DJ's headers? Did you look at DJ's style? Did
you compare it with Steve's style?

If one asks genuine questions over an alias, could one ask questions for
which one knows (or thinks he knows) the answer over an alias? Could one
answer these questions? Could one thank and extend plaudits to oneself
this way? Would anyone ACTUALLY DO this?

If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, is it likely to be a
duck?

You see,I'm confused.

Are fish Catholics?
Does the Pope defecate in the woods?
Do bears have lips?

--
Lyle Fairfield
Dec 3 '05 #24

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"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote in message
news:Ir************@read2.cgocable.net...
John Marshall, MVP wrote:
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:_9****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Here is the opinion of 'yet another poster' about me:
Thank you so much for the help given on this problem. It has worked
beautifully and I now have the beginnings of a really useful database.
--
GeeJay


In that case, you helped a user in the newsgroup for free.


Did you consider GeeJay's style? Did you compare it with Steve's style
(when he's in civilized mode, that is)? Did you look at GeeJay's
headers? Did you look at DJ's headers? Did you look at DJ's style? Did
you compare it with Steve's style?

If one asks genuine questions over an alias, could one ask questions for
which one knows (or thinks he knows) the answer over an alias? Could one
answer these questions? Could one thank and extend plaudits to oneself
this way? Would anyone ACTUALLY DO this?

If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, is it likely to be a
duck?

You see,I'm confused.

Are fish Catholics?
Does the Pope defecate in the woods?
Do bears have lips?

--
Lyle Fairfield


Ignore that man behind the curtain.
Dec 3 '05 #25

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PC Datasheet wrote:
From the beginning four years ago it seemed that everyone understood I was
offering fee-based help. Most requests for help began with something like
"...what would you charge ...". Also from the beginning my fees have always
been very reasonable. I have never had a complaint about what I charge and
in fact it has never been questioned. I have never ripped off a customer
with exorbitant fees. My fees are significantly lower than any I have ever
seen published in the newsgroups. There was a poster sometime ago that made
a comment about the fees a developer had charged him ($5000) and I responded
to him offering to help if he needed further help. I know my fees would have
been somewhere around $1500 to $2000 for the work the poster described done
by the developer for $5000.


You've really chosen what is, to me, a difficult niche market. Did you
ever work at a university help desk? It seems that even collecting
payments can be an educational experience at that level. You hardly
have time to develop a working relationship with the customer before
going to the next jo.. err customer. But that model does make for a
certain leanness of operation. It's like the difference between wild
ducks and ducks who eat the farmer's crumbs. As long as the farmer
keeps feeding the ducks, they do better than the wild ones. If the
farmer stops they might starve. I guess that with all that diversity
you should be able to develop quite a vast repertoire of Access
knowledge. I'm trying to understand why the business model you've
chosen has the appeal it does.

James A. Fortune

Dec 3 '05 #26

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:MQ*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Jim,

You're a class act and I hope you never lower yourself to the level of the
likes of Arno R, John Marshall and Randy Harris!! Thanks for your response.


Hi Steve,

I am not 100% sure that Jim *really* might want to become your 'hero'.
Also I am not sure that you are *his* hero...
But I might be mistaken here ...

This is from two weeks ago:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cdc47191c04fa1

<nevertheless snipped yet another fairy tale>

Arno R
Dec 4 '05 #27

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I like helping people. I get to do a little "teaching". I have met numerous
interesting people. The compliments flow freely. There are plenty of thank
yous. The diversity of things to work on is tremendous. There's satisfaction
seeing people attempting more on their own after I help them. Today I
received an early Christmas card from someone I helped over two years ago.
He enclosed a note with the card telling me about some databases he created
after I had helped him. What a rush!!!!

Steve
PC Datasheet

<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
PC Datasheet wrote:
From the beginning four years ago it seemed that everyone understood I
was
offering fee-based help. Most requests for help began with something like
"...what would you charge ...". Also from the beginning my fees have
always
been very reasonable. I have never had a complaint about what I charge
and
in fact it has never been questioned. I have never ripped off a customer
with exorbitant fees. My fees are significantly lower than any I have
ever
seen published in the newsgroups. There was a poster sometime ago that
made
a comment about the fees a developer had charged him ($5000) and I
responded
to him offering to help if he needed further help. I know my fees would
have
been somewhere around $1500 to $2000 for the work the poster described
done
by the developer for $5000.


You've really chosen what is, to me, a difficult niche market. Did you
ever work at a university help desk? It seems that even collecting
payments can be an educational experience at that level. You hardly
have time to develop a working relationship with the customer before
going to the next jo.. err customer. But that model does make for a
certain leanness of operation. It's like the difference between wild
ducks and ducks who eat the farmer's crumbs. As long as the farmer
keeps feeding the ducks, they do better than the wild ones. If the
farmer stops they might starve. I guess that with all that diversity
you should be able to develop quite a vast repertoire of Access
knowledge. I'm trying to understand why the business model you've
chosen has the appeal it does.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #28

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For example, here are some comments made by people from the newsgroups that
came to
me and paid me to help them ---

I like it a lot. It does exactly what I want, very good job. Thankyou and I
repeat GOOD JOB

OK, Perfect, well done. See you when I need something more.

Your very helpful email speaks volumes about your level of professionalism.
I will definitely keep your contact information for anyone who needs these
types of services - we very frequently get local businesses
contacting us looking for exactly the type of service you provide.

One word: Wow. I had no clue it could be such an "aesthetically pleasing"
interface. I figured it'd just be a big chart. That's amazing. You've really
helped me cause out a lot, and you've done a tremendous job with this demo.
With this, I can more easily explain how a database could help us out.

Thanks for looking ahead. That is the reason I really feel safe working with
you. couple of the programmers who do work for me, need to be checked to
told to do every step of the way. With you, I just need to tell you what I
need to be done, and you will think ahead of all the problems that might
occur in the process.

Steve
PC Datasheet


<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11*********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
PC Datasheet wrote:
From the beginning four years ago it seemed that everyone understood I
was
offering fee-based help. Most requests for help began with something like
"...what would you charge ...". Also from the beginning my fees have
always
been very reasonable. I have never had a complaint about what I charge
and
in fact it has never been questioned. I have never ripped off a customer
with exorbitant fees. My fees are significantly lower than any I have
ever
seen published in the newsgroups. There was a poster sometime ago that
made
a comment about the fees a developer had charged him ($5000) and I
responded
to him offering to help if he needed further help. I know my fees would
have
been somewhere around $1500 to $2000 for the work the poster described
done
by the developer for $5000.


You've really chosen what is, to me, a difficult niche market. Did you
ever work at a university help desk? It seems that even collecting
payments can be an educational experience at that level. You hardly
have time to develop a working relationship with the customer before
going to the next jo.. err customer. But that model does make for a
certain leanness of operation. It's like the difference between wild
ducks and ducks who eat the farmer's crumbs. As long as the farmer
keeps feeding the ducks, they do better than the wild ones. If the
farmer stops they might starve. I guess that with all that diversity
you should be able to develop quite a vast repertoire of Access
knowledge. I'm trying to understand why the business model you've
chosen has the appeal it does.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #29

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StopThisAdvertising wrote:
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:MQ*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Jim,

You're a class act and I hope you never lower yourself to the level of the
likes of Arno R, John Marshall and Randy Harris!! Thanks for your response.


Hi Steve,

I am not 100% sure that Jim *really* might want to become your 'hero'.
Also I am not sure that you are *his* hero...
But I might be mistaken here ...

This is from two weeks ago:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cdc47191c04fa1

<nevertheless snipped yet another fairy tale>

Arno R


Those words were, and still are, my belief. However, I am willing to
be shown otherwise. I don't mind much anyway even if what I suspect is
true. There are already plenty of people who are zealously protecting
the charter without my help. Sometimes I jump to conclusions when the
data seems to indicate something, but I try not to jump down people's
throats based on what I simply suspect. I try to be diplomatic about
confronting people. Steve has shown enough surprises lately that I'm
willing to give him some benefit of the doubt. My subtle ribbing is
basically an attempt to let him answer for himself. I'd like to see
him prosper with Access as many of us have. I only wish that there was
a way for him to do it in a way that respects the charter. I can't
come up with a solution to this problem yet. Maybe someone else in
this NG is wise enough to come up with something that works for
everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #30

P: n/a
Lyle Fairfield wrote:
ji********@compumarc.com wrote:
I don't even care if Trevor and Lyle live in Redmond


Good guess, James. I do prefer to spend my time at Redmound.


I found an obscure reference to Redmound, Canada here:

http://www.toller.ca/2005NatSpec/results.htm

Is it a city in Nova Scotia?

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #31

P: n/a
No, James,
I AM NOT GOING TO DRAW YOU A PICTURE!
I got my glasses broken last time I was there so it would be all blurry
anyway.

Dec 4 '05 #32

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Jim,

I have and am prospering. Reread my other last response to you. In fact, I
am prospering more than most of you are!! There seems to be a misconception
of what is going on. My signature line previously only contained four simple
lines. When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me, it
was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two months
and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window". That was when he started sending emails to my office and viciously
harassing me. John Marshall, Keith Wilby, Randy Harris and Duane Hookum
joined in supporting and promoting this egomaniac. Since NO ONE cares about
the pollution these dimwits add to the newsgroups and NO ONE cares about the
volume of bandwidth they take on the newsgroups servers, I don't feel bad at
all about my signature line as it is now or was a week or so ago. As far as
what works, the way it used to be worked for over four years with no
resulting problems.

Steve
PC Datasheet


<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
StopThisAdvertising wrote:
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
news:MQ*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Jim,
>
> You're a class act and I hope you never lower yourself to the level of
> the
> likes of Arno R, John Marshall and Randy Harris!! Thanks for your
> response.


Hi Steve,

I am not 100% sure that Jim *really* might want to become your 'hero'.
Also I am not sure that you are *his* hero...
But I might be mistaken here ...

This is from two weeks ago:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....cdc47191c04fa1

<nevertheless snipped yet another fairy tale>

Arno R


Those words were, and still are, my belief. However, I am willing to
be shown otherwise. I don't mind much anyway even if what I suspect is
true. There are already plenty of people who are zealously protecting
the charter without my help. Sometimes I jump to conclusions when the
data seems to indicate something, but I try not to jump down people's
throats based on what I simply suspect. I try to be diplomatic about
confronting people. Steve has shown enough surprises lately that I'm
willing to give him some benefit of the doubt. My subtle ribbing is
basically an attempt to let him answer for himself. I'd like to see
him prosper with Access as many of us have. I only wish that there was
a way for him to do it in a way that respects the charter. I can't
come up with a solution to this problem yet. Maybe someone else in
this NG is wise enough to come up with something that works for
everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #33

P: n/a
rkc
Lyle Fairfield wrote:
No, James,
I AM NOT GOING TO DRAW YOU A PICTURE!
I got my glasses broken last time I was there so it would be all blurry
anyway.


Do you need them up that close?
Dec 4 '05 #34

P: n/a
rkc
PC Datasheet wrote:
I have and am prospering. Reread my other last response to you. In fact, I
am prospering more than most of you are!!


You are a steaming pile of dung.

You should be ashamed.
Dec 4 '05 #35

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I think we should quit this lest Steve figure it out.

Dec 4 '05 #36

P: n/a
<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote
Maybe someone else in this NG is wise enough to
come up with something that works for
everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.


If you mean that, by having a charter, and expecting people to abide by it,
we (participants of the newsgroup) have failed Steve, who well knows the
content of the charter and USENET rules (to wit, RFC 1855 and RFC 2039,
which were long ago discussed and have been accepted) and refuses to abide
by them -- I disagree.

It appears that Steve got a lot of help from people in this newsgroup, but
decided to subvert it to his own purposes, in flagrant disregard of the
charter (which is quoted verbatim in the FAQ at
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm) and USENET rules, restated in
almost every ISP's and news server's Terms of Service and Acceptable Use
Policy.

It is really immaterial whether he has legions of satisfied customers or
whether he wrote his own accolades, or even whether we have "failed" him.
What is material is that he is in long-standing violation of USENET rules
and the charter of the newsgroups.

The only thing that works, generally, when someone refuses to abide by the
rules and charter, is repeated complaints to that person's ISP and news
server. (And, even that doesn't work every time, because many ISPs regard
newsgroups just as a trial that they must suffer to keep users signed up.)

Larry Linson
(writing from the point of view of someone who cast one of the approving
votes to establish this newsgroup, back in 1993)
Dec 4 '05 #37

P: n/a
PC Datasheet wrote:
Jim,

I have and am prospering. Reread my other last response to you. In fact, I
am prospering more than most of you are!! There seems to be a misconception
of what is going on. My signature line previously only contained four simple
lines. When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me, it
was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two months
and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window". That was when he started sending emails to my office and viciously
harassing me. John Marshall, Keith Wilby, Randy Harris and Duane Hookum
joined in supporting and promoting this egomaniac. Since NO ONE cares about
the pollution these dimwits add to the newsgroups and NO ONE cares about the
volume of bandwidth they take on the newsgroups servers, I don't feel bad at
all about my signature line as it is now or was a week or so ago. As far as
what works, the way it used to be worked for over four years with no
resulting problems.

Steve
PC Datasheet


If you and they can't find common ground then others will be stuck
watching this waste of bandwidth. I don't like what both sides are
resorting to in order to try to claim the low ground. I'd much rather
see solutions for Access. Maybe continue to try to clear up whatever
is causing the misconception. I'm fairly confident that the ancestor
of mine who was burned at the stake accused of being a witch was not
one. In fact, there was a preacher in Salem whose kids went into
demonic fits. If someone walked into their home and the fits stopped,
that person was accused. I hope you don't suffer the same fate.

James A. Fortune

One of my ancestors was an officer for George Washington (Capt. Downer
I believe) and was present at Valley Forge and the Battle of Trenton.
But that's not very impressive because George complained that the
officers in the all-volunteer army (no income taxes or sales taxes back
then -- that's something worth defending!) were not as capable as the
professional British officers.

Dec 4 '05 #38

P: n/a
Larry Linson wrote:
<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote
> Maybe someone else in this NG is wise enough to
> come up with something that works for
> everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.


If you mean that, by having a charter, and expecting people to abide by it,
we (participants of the newsgroup) have failed Steve, who well knows the
content of the charter and USENET rules (to wit, RFC 1855 and RFC 2039,
which were long ago discussed and have been accepted) and refuses to abide
by them -- I disagree.


That's not what I meant. I mean a solution that respects the charter.
Who knows, maybe MS will give him microsoft.public.access.steve with
advertising allowed and he can have a link in his sig. I don't know
how to solve it but I am not suggesting an exception to the charter.
BTW, thanks for voting for the creation of this NG.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #39

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:6F****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Jim,

I have and am prospering. Reread my other last response to you. In fact, I
am prospering more than most of you are!! There seems to be a misconception of what is going on. My signature line previously only contained four simple lines. When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me, it was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two months and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window". That was when he started sending emails to my office and viciously harassing me. John Marshall, Keith Wilby, Randy Harris and Duane Hookum
joined in supporting and promoting this egomaniac. Since NO ONE cares about the pollution these dimwits add to the newsgroups and NO ONE cares about the volume of bandwidth they take on the newsgroups servers, I don't feel bad at all about my signature line as it is now or was a week or so ago. As far as what works, the way it used to be worked for over four years with no
resulting problems.

Steve
PC Datasheet
Even this message contradicts itself. Steve states:
When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me, it
was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two months and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window".
but then goes on to state:
That was when he started sending emails to my office and viciously
harassing me.


One statement or the other must be untrue. Or perhaps neither is true.

Dec 4 '05 #40

P: n/a

<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

[snip]
Who knows, maybe MS will give him microsoft.public.access.steve with
advertising allowed and he can have a link in his sig. I don't know


LOL
Dec 4 '05 #41

P: n/a
PC Datasheet wrote:
I like helping people. I get to do a little "teaching". I have met numerous
interesting people. The compliments flow freely. There are plenty of thank
yous. The diversity of things to work on is tremendous. There's satisfaction
seeing people attempting more on their own after I help them. Today I
received an early Christmas card from someone I helped over two years ago.
He enclosed a note with the card telling me about some databases he created
after I had helped him. What a rush!!!!

Steve
PC Datasheet


Thanks. That helps. I'm going to try to stay out of the crossfire as
much as possible unless I have a suggestion that can de-escalate this
jihad.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #42

P: n/a
ji********@compumarc.com wrote:
Those words were, and still are, my belief. However, I am willing to
be shown otherwise. I don't mind much anyway even if what I suspect is
true. There are already plenty of people who are zealously protecting
the charter without my help. Sometimes I jump to conclusions when the
data seems to indicate something, but I try not to jump down people's
throats based on what I simply suspect. I try to be diplomatic about
confronting people. Steve has shown enough surprises lately that I'm
willing to give him some benefit of the doubt. My subtle ribbing is
basically an attempt to let him answer for himself. I'd like to see
him prosper with Access as many of us have. I only wish that there was
a way for him to do it in a way that respects the charter. I can't
come up with a solution to this problem yet. Maybe someone else in
this NG is wise enough to come up with something that works for
everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.
Some of those who post here achieve, over time, some measure of
respect. Others read their posts regularly and they consider the ideas
advanced by these respected posters carefully. This is not Access; this
is humanity.

Do these respected persons have responsibilities to Steve? Do they have
responsibilities to those who might be burned by Steve? Do they have
responsibilities with respect to maintaining the effectiveness of the
group? And, if they do, how should they meet these responsibilities?

Perhaps, you could consider the following (it's a quote from another
thread) in relation to your answer.

**********************

"Steve, Steve, Steve:

I knew you were a liar and a cheat; but this has crossed the line.
You're
either a pathological liar or delusional. I hope it's the former; but
I'm
starting to believe it's the latter.

I'll address what you write below and provide support from our e-mail
exchange in 2001.

(For the sake of those of you reading this, I will only provide
excerpts
from e-mail where appropriate, If anyone wants to see the original
e-mails,
I will send them to you upon request to n...@nrgconsult.com.)

"PC Datasheet" <nos...@nospam.spam> wrote in message

news:61****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Here's the other half of the Neil Ginsberg story --- I contacted Ginsberg about doing some work for me. He gave me a fixed cost
quote of $500. I thought that that was somewhat high and he said a fixed
cost bid is always high to guarantee that it covers the job. He then said
that he would work at an hourly rate and guaranteed me the project cost
would be lower. I accepted his proposal. Sometime later I checked back
with
him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only
half
done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed
in
the specs for what needed done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
figure
that the final cost was going to be near $1500. That is triple his fixed
cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than
$500.
His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project. He kept my
initial deposit of $375 and I got a half done project whose finished cost
was suppose to be less than $500. Steve
You originally said (E-mail 1):
All I need then is your estimate of the number of hours. I don't need a
formal quote, just a short email is enough.
Please note the word "estimate."

I replied (E-mail 2) with an outline of what I would do, along with a
couple
of notes about items I had questions about and which would not be
included
in the estimate. The estimate given was $500.

You then replied (E-mail 3):
Thank you for the quote! Your solution looks like what I need so I am
definitely going ahead with it. I got your email regarding your hourly
rate and estimate of hours and will go with you doing it on an hourly
basis.
Please note again the word "estimate" there and the note that it would
be
done on an "hourly basis."

Continuing in the same e-mail from you:
Before starting I want to finalize the specs and your estimate of the
hours. I have some additions. Let me know if you can do them and what
you now estimate for total hours.
Note again the word "estimate" from you when asking for my new
estimate.

A few days later, you wrote (E-mail 4):
Thanks for the analysis and suggestions!! Here are my responses to your
last round of questions and comments. I'm ready to go if you have all
the information you need. Please give me your new estimate of time
(probable and conservative) so I know approximately what your fees will
be and then I'll give you the green light. Thanks again for all the
effort you are putting into this.
Please note here that you again use the word "estimate" when asking for
my
new estimate; that you ask for a range ("probable and conservative"),
not a
fixed amount; and that you state that you want to know "approximately"
what
my fees will be.

So, let's recap here a bit.

1) In your recent post to the newsgroup (quoted above), you wrote:
I contacted Ginsberg about doing some work for me. He gave me a fixed cost
quote of $500.
That's obviously not true. Time and again in our exchange we discussed
an
"estimate" for the work. Nowhere was a fixed amount mentioned.

2) You then wrote: I thought that that was somewhat high and he said a fixed
cost bid is always high to guarantee that it covers the job. He then said
that he would work at an hourly rate and guaranteed me the project cost
would be lower.
That doesn't even make sense. If one were to guarantee a cost, then it
would
be a fixed cost, not an estimate. Furthermore, in e-mails 3 and 4,
above,
you ask for a "new estimate" based on additions you made. How can even
one
who is delusional think that a new estimate based on additions would be
lower than the original estimate??

3) You continued:
I accepted his proposal. Sometime later I checked back with
him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only
half
done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed
in
the specs for what needed done.
That part about it being "half done" is a lie -- but I'll get back to
that
later. Regarding what you wrote:

"Nothing had changed in the specs for what needed done."

Clearly that's a lie. In e-mail 3, above, you write:
Before starting I want to finalize the specs and your estimate of the
hours. I have some additions. Let me know if you can do them and what
you now estimate for total hours.
Clearly, by your own admission, you had made additions to what was used
for
the original estimate of $500, and that estimate was no longer valid,
and
you were seeking a new one.

4) You concluded:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
that the final cost was going to be near $1500. That is triple his fixed
cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than
$500.
His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project. He kept my
initial deposit of $375 and I got a half done project whose finished cost
was suppose to be less than $500.
I think this shows how good you are at persuading people (and I
empathize
with those who are trying to point out your follies to this newgroup
and get
your slick, snake oil responses). I'll address this in a bit. But I
wanted
to point out that part about "He had guaranteed me the project cost
would be
lower than $500." I don't see how anyone with half a brain can sincerly
believe that. Clearly you have half a brain. That means (again) that
you're
either a pathological liar or delusional.

I then sent you an e-mail with terms, and you replied agreeing to those
terms (E-mail 5). The second paragraph of those terms clearly stated:

"An estimate of hours would be provided before the start of the
project.
The estimate is by no means a fixed price or upper limit. It is merely
an
estimate of the hours to perform the work. If a change in the estimate
is required, no work will be performed beyond the original estimate
without
express approval."

These were the terms that you agreed to in your e-mail (in addition to
the
previous e-mails which reference the "estimate"). And now you say I
guaranteed you a fixed price for the job? Snake oil, Steve; snake oil.

After you replied to my additional questions (E-mail 4), I replied to
your
response with a revised outline and some additional questions (E-mail
6). In

that e-mail I wrote: Right now it looks like an additional 2-3 hours from my original estimate,
based on the items above with revision number incrementing on new records
as
well as old, and with the caption document as-is with mail merge fields.
But
I'll give you an "official" revised estimate on the next round when there
are no more outstanding issues.
You then replied to my questions (E-mail 7) and said
Please proceed with this project. Email me your mailing address and I
will put a deposit of $300 in the mail to you. Can you have it done by
the end of next week? My answers to your last round of questions is below. If there are any
new issues or outstanding issues, email them to me and I will reply back
to your email.
I then replied (E-mail 8) to your responses with some additional
questions,
and stated:
Assuming that Option 2 is a go, the revised estimate is 3-5 hours above
the
original estimate (8-12 hours), making the new estimate 11-17 hours.
Please
confirm. I also wrote: The end of next week [3/16/01] looks good as a timeframe to get it done
by.
On 3/16 you wrote asking what the status of the project was (E-mail 9).
I
replied (E-mail 10) that I would be working on it over the weekend, and
should have it to you by that Monday (3/19).

That day and over the weekend we went back and forth a couple of times,
ironing out the last technical details.

That Monday at 3:30 a.m. I sent you the database with an e-mail (E-mail
11)
explaining some points, and noting that a few minor issues (a couple of
buttons for existing routines, along with one new routine) needed to be
completed, and that there was a little bit of testing that still needed
to
be done. But the database was mostly (90%) complete.

At 3:40 a.m. I sent you an e-mail (E-mail 12) with a summary of the
hours
worked. The total hours worked at that point was 13.2 -- well within
the
range of the revised estimate (11-17 hours) that you had agreed to.

That morning, you replied with some technical issues related to the
database
I had just sent you. We went back and forth a few times in e-mail, and
at
5:05 p.m. that day I sent you a revised database (E-mail 13).

After more discussion (presumably by phone, since I don't have e-mails
of
it), I sent you another version of the database at 1:47 a.m. on 3/20
(E-mail
14). This was after you were able to review and note issues with two
previous versions, all of which I addressed.

That morning you sent me an e-mail stating that you were "pulling the
plug"
on the project; that you would not pay me for my time; and that you
wanted
your $300 deposit (not $375) back. I sent you a final invoice that
afternoon
for 18.4 hours (slightly over the estimate, so you were within your
rights
to only pay for 17 hours, since I hadn't gotten explicit permission for
the
additional hour, since it was the end of the project and it was only an
hour). You replied (E-mail 15) that I was "in breach of contract for
failure
to provide a finished product and failure to deliver that product as
promised on March 16."

So, getting back to what you wrote recently.....

1) You wrote: Sometime later I checked back with
him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only
half
done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed
in
the specs for what needed done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to
figure
that the final cost was going to be near $1500.
a) The database was 90% complete. A rocket scientist would have put the
estimate at $835. But, apparently, you're not a rocket scientist.

b) As noted, much had changed in the specs for the original estimate of
$500. The revised estimate, which had been agreed upon was $765.
That is triple his fixed
cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than
$500.
c) As noted above, that's a lie.
His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project.
d) The fictitious guarantee that it would be lower than $500 is your
delusion. And I did contact you with a summary of hours when I
initially
delivered the database, which was within the estimate had I provided.
He kept my initial deposit of $375
and I got a half done project whose finished cost
was suppose to be less than $500.


e) It was a $300 deposit; the database was 90% done; and the revised
estimate was $765.

If you were really were concerned about the cost, as your bogus figures
here
would lead one to believe, then you could have said that you didn't
want to
pay over the 17 hours that we had agreed upon, and given me the option
to
just finish up the hour or so that was left to do at that rate. I
probably
would have agreed to do that. But since cost wasn't really the issue,
that
wasn't an option for you.

But your original pretext was different. Originally, as noted above
(E-mail
15), you wrote that the reason was that I was "in breach of contract
for
failure to
provide a finished product and failure to deliver that product as
promised
on March 16." What I find interesting about that is:

a) There was no agreement to deliver the product by March 16 (you asked
if I
could have it by that day, and I said it "looked good for that date" --

hardly a binding agreement!).

b) When I wrote you on March 16 (E-mail 10) stating that I would have
the
database to you by Monday, you not say that that was unacceptable.

c) If you were so concerned about the March 16 deadline, then why
didn't you
pull the plug on March 17 when the database wasn't delievered? Why did
you
wait until after I worked on it some more over the weekend; then
delievered
it to you early in the morning Monday, March 19; then gave your
feedback and
received another version from me later that day; then gave more
feedback and
received another version from me early on March 20; then said you were
pulling the plug for not delivering it on March 16, and wouldn't pay
for my
work? Why, if the supposed March 16 deadline was the issue, did you
wait
until after you received the database on March 19-20 before telling me
you
were cancelling the contract for not meeting the March 16 deadline, and
wouldn't be paying me for my work? Because that wasn't the issue
either.

Though it became clear to me at that point that you were an
unscrupulous
person with no ethical foundation, my estimation of you reached a new
low a
couple of days later when I read your posting (under the pseudonym
"Ron") in
CDMA a few days later, asking for help in completing the database that
you
had stolen from me. I mean, it's one thing to not want to continue with
a
contract. That's fine. But to take someone's work, and use it without
paying
them for it -- and then to go into the very newsgroup where you found
that
person and ask for help in completing the stolen database? That would
be
funny if it weren't so sad.

So, why did I take so much time to write all of this? Well, first,
because
you pissed me off with your lies here. But I shouldn't be surprised.
Lies
are your game, aren't they, Ron? But, second, because I care about the
people in this newsgroup, and I see the way you are attempting to
delude
them into believe that you're an innocent person who's being picked on.
I
don't believe you really believe you're being picked on. I believe you
know
that the criticisms are valid, but your lying nature has to try to make
it
seem otherwise. You're a sad, sad individual, Steve."

**************

Dec 4 '05 #43

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Jim,

<< I'd much rather see solutions for Access. >>

If you go back earlier than about six months ago, that's the way it was.
Arno R and his band of hoods changed it.

Steve
PC Datasheet

<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
PC Datasheet wrote:
Jim,

I have and am prospering. Reread my other last response to you. In fact,
I
am prospering more than most of you are!! There seems to be a
misconception
of what is going on. My signature line previously only contained four
simple
lines. When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me,
it
was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two
months
and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window". That was when he started sending emails to my office and
viciously
harassing me. John Marshall, Keith Wilby, Randy Harris and Duane Hookum
joined in supporting and promoting this egomaniac. Since NO ONE cares
about
the pollution these dimwits add to the newsgroups and NO ONE cares about
the
volume of bandwidth they take on the newsgroups servers, I don't feel bad
at
all about my signature line as it is now or was a week or so ago. As far
as
what works, the way it used to be worked for over four years with no
resulting problems.

Steve
PC Datasheet


If you and they can't find common ground then others will be stuck
watching this waste of bandwidth. I don't like what both sides are
resorting to in order to try to claim the low ground. I'd much rather
see solutions for Access. Maybe continue to try to clear up whatever
is causing the misconception. I'm fairly confident that the ancestor
of mine who was burned at the stake accused of being a witch was not
one. In fact, there was a preacher in Salem whose kids went into
demonic fits. If someone walked into their home and the fits stopped,
that person was accused. I hope you don't suffer the same fate.

James A. Fortune

One of my ancestors was an officer for George Washington (Capt. Downer
I believe) and was present at Valley Forge and the Battle of Trenton.
But that's not very impressive because George complained that the
officers in the all-volunteer army (no income taxes or sales taxes back
then -- that's something worth defending!) were not as capable as the
professional British officers.

Dec 4 '05 #44

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You're illiterate and as stupid as your dimwitted cousin John Marshall!!!

Arno R started sending emails to my office and viciously harassing me and I
posted that "All The Rules Have Just Gone Out The Window"
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.


"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
news:2D****************@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com ...

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:6F****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
Jim,

I have and am prospering. Reread my other last response to you. In fact,
I
am prospering more than most of you are!! There seems to be a

misconception
of what is going on. My signature line previously only contained four

simple
lines. When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me,

it
was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two

months
and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window". That was when he started sending emails to my office and

viciously
harassing me. John Marshall, Keith Wilby, Randy Harris and Duane Hookum
joined in supporting and promoting this egomaniac. Since NO ONE cares

about
the pollution these dimwits add to the newsgroups and NO ONE cares about

the
volume of bandwidth they take on the newsgroups servers, I don't feel bad

at
all about my signature line as it is now or was a week or so ago. As far

as
what works, the way it used to be worked for over four years with no
resulting problems.

Steve
PC Datasheet


Even this message contradicts itself. Steve states:
When Arno R started sending emails to my office and harassing me, it
was only then that I increased my signature line. Go back one or two

months
and you will see my post saying "All the Rules have just gone out the
window".


but then goes on to state:
That was when he started sending emails to my office and viciously
harassing me.


One statement or the other must be untrue. Or perhaps neither is true.

Dec 4 '05 #45

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Lyle Fairfield wrote:
ji********@compumarc.com wrote:
Those words were, and still are, my belief. However, I am willing to
be shown otherwise. I don't mind much anyway even if what I suspect is
true. There are already plenty of people who are zealously protecting
the charter without my help. Sometimes I jump to conclusions when the
data seems to indicate something, but I try not to jump down people's
throats based on what I simply suspect. I try to be diplomatic about
confronting people. Steve has shown enough surprises lately that I'm
willing to give him some benefit of the doubt. My subtle ribbing is
basically an attempt to let him answer for himself. I'd like to see
him prosper with Access as many of us have. I only wish that there was
a way for him to do it in a way that respects the charter. I can't
come up with a solution to this problem yet. Maybe someone else in
this NG is wise enough to come up with something that works for
everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.


Some of those who post here achieve, over time, some measure of
respect. Others read their posts regularly and they consider the ideas
advanced by these respected posters carefully. This is not Access; this
is humanity.
That statement is one of this NG's finest hours.

Do these respected persons have responsibilities to Steve? Do they have
responsibilities to those who might be burned by Steve? Do they have
responsibilities with respect to maintaining the effectiveness of the
group? And, if they do, how should they meet these responsibilities?
These are difficult questions worth thinking about.

Perhaps, you could consider the following (it's a quote from another
thread) in relation to your answer.
...


Although you probably see it as others having proof rather than
speculation, I take it as not being one of the NG's finest hours. It's
hardly what I'd like humanity to be anyway. It was painful even to
read it. Access problems are much easier to solve than human problems.

James A. Fortune

Dec 4 '05 #46

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Larry,

You're nothing but a pompous ass just like XMVP said. You're also two-faced
for someone who came to me a couple of years ago asking if I could
subcontract some of the work I was getting from people from the newsgroups
to you.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:0%skf.4939$1y.2162@trnddc07...
<ji********@compumarc.com> wrote
Maybe someone else in this NG is wise enough to
come up with something that works for
everyone. If not, then perhaps we've failed him.


If you mean that, by having a charter, and expecting people to abide by
it, we (participants of the newsgroup) have failed Steve, who well knows
the content of the charter and USENET rules (to wit, RFC 1855 and RFC
2039, which were long ago discussed and have been accepted) and refuses to
abide by them -- I disagree.

It appears that Steve got a lot of help from people in this newsgroup, but
decided to subvert it to his own purposes, in flagrant disregard of the
charter (which is quoted verbatim in the FAQ at
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm) and USENET rules, restated in
almost every ISP's and news server's Terms of Service and Acceptable Use
Policy.

It is really immaterial whether he has legions of satisfied customers or
whether he wrote his own accolades, or even whether we have "failed" him.
What is material is that he is in long-standing violation of USENET rules
and the charter of the newsgroups.

The only thing that works, generally, when someone refuses to abide by the
rules and charter, is repeated complaints to that person's ISP and news
server. (And, even that doesn't work every time, because many ISPs regard
newsgroups just as a trial that they must suffer to keep users signed up.)

Larry Linson
(writing from the point of view of someone who cast one of the
approving
votes to establish this newsgroup, back in 1993)

Dec 4 '05 #47

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rkc
ji********@compumarc.com wrote:
Thanks. That helps. I'm going to try to stay out of the crossfire as
much as possible unless I have a suggestion that can de-escalate this
jihad.


Steve Santos is like the kid that comes to your house and urinates
in your swimming pool. You kindly suggest that he stops his annoying
behavior. Nobody else is urinating in the pool. When he persists, what
do you do, look the other way because it's to disruptive to convince him
to stop? Perhaps suggest that the others that have felt the sudden
patch of heated water near him are being to sensitive? Maybe wait until
he takes a dump in your pool?
Dec 4 '05 #48

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:yj****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You're illiterate and as stupid as your dimwitted cousin John Marshall!!!

I
posted that "All The Rules Have Just Gone Out The Window"


Well, good. I'm glad that you at least admit that you are violating the
rules.

Dec 4 '05 #49

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rkc wrote:
ji********@compumarc.com wrote:
Thanks. That helps. I'm going to try to stay out of the crossfire as
much as possible unless I have a suggestion that can de-escalate this
jihad.


Steve Santos is like the kid that comes to your house and urinates
in your swimming pool. You kindly suggest that he stops his annoying
behavior. Nobody else is urinating in the pool. When he persists, what
do you do, look the other way because it's to disruptive to convince him
to stop? Perhaps suggest that the others that have felt the sudden
patch of heated water near him are being to sensitive? Maybe wait until
he takes a dump in your pool?


So complaining to his ISP is like complaining to his parents? Put a
fence around the NG? I don't have an answer yet either. Sorry.

James A. Fortune

Those who criticize a problem have a responsibility to help come up
with a solution to that problem. -- Boeing

Dec 4 '05 #50

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