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Setting focus to an external application

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I have contained in a listbox the Window's caption, the class name for
the window, and the hWND of the window.

Is there a way, using the data from above, to activate/set focus to that
window?
Nov 28 '05 #1
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One assumes you could use this API function:
Private Declare Function SetFocus Lib "user32" _
(ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
however, depending on the circumstances you may have to declare it
using an alias so that your code does not confuse it with Access's
SetFocus.

Nov 28 '05 #2

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Salad,

Are you looking to do something like this ----

Dim AccessAppExtDb As Application
Dim DbCurrentDatabase As DAO.Database
Dim DbExternalDatabase As DAO.Database
Dim Rst As DAO.Recoedset
Dim PathToExtDb As String
Set DbCurrentDatabase = CurrentDb()
PathToExtDb = "C:\MyFolder\MyDatabase.mdb"
Set AccessAppExtDb = New Access.Application
AccessAppExtDb.OpenCurrentDatabase PathToExtDb

' You can open a form in the external database with
AssessAppExtDb.DoCmd.OpenForm "SomeForm"

' You can open a recordset in the external database with
Set Rst = AssessAppExtDb.OpenRecordset("Some SQL")

' You can open a form in the database containing this code with
DbCurrentDatabase.DoCmd.OpenForm "MyForm"

' You can open a recordset in the database containing this code with
Set Rst = DbCurrentDatabase.OpenRecordset("MySQL")
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


"salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:08****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
I have contained in a listbox the Window's caption, the class name for the
window, and the hWND of the window.

Is there a way, using the data from above, to activate/set focus to that
window?

Nov 29 '05 #3

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Lyle Fairfield wrote:
One assumes you could use this API function:
Private Declare Function SetFocus Lib "user32" _
(ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
however, depending on the circumstances you may have to declare it
using an alias so that your code does not confuse it with Access's
SetFocus.


Hi Lyle, thanks for pointing me towards SetFocus. I had to explore a bit
further.

I couldn't get it to compile for some odd reason...I'd get an error
"Compile Error. Member already exists in an object module from which
this object module derives." ???...what the heck does that mean?

Anyway, my compile error line is
Private Declare Function _
SetFocus Lib "user32" (ByVal hwnd As Long) As Long
I do a search for "SetFocus Lib" in all modules in the app but that
phrase is not found. Hmmm...

Anyway, I scanned Google a bit and came up with ShowWindow API. Setting
the value to Restore displays the page correctly.

Nov 29 '05 #4

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:xO****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...

[garbage snipped]


The CDMA charter prohibits advertising and Steve is the only consultant that
refuses to adhere to that charter. There are literally hundreds of competent
Access consultants available. Many post regularly in this newsgroup, others
can easily be located by googling or visiting guru.com.

Either Steve's advertising should be stopped or the CDMA charter should be
amended to permit it. Permitting Steve to continue advertising punishes the
many ethical consultants who contribute here but don't advertise.
Nov 29 '05 #5

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PC Datasheet wrote:
Salad,

Are you looking to do something like this ----

Dim AccessAppExtDb As Application
Dim DbCurrentDatabase As DAO.Database
Dim DbExternalDatabase As DAO.Database
Dim Rst As DAO.Recoedset
Dim PathToExtDb As String
Set DbCurrentDatabase = CurrentDb()
PathToExtDb = "C:\MyFolder\MyDatabase.mdb"
Set AccessAppExtDb = New Access.Application
AccessAppExtDb.OpenCurrentDatabase PathToExtDb

' You can open a form in the external database with
AssessAppExtDb.DoCmd.OpenForm "SomeForm"

' You can open a recordset in the external database with
Set Rst = AssessAppExtDb.OpenRecordset("Some SQL")

' You can open a form in the database containing this code with
DbCurrentDatabase.DoCmd.OpenForm "MyForm"

' You can open a recordset in the database containing this code with
Set Rst = DbCurrentDatabase.OpenRecordset("MySQL")

Not quite. I enumerated through the list of open InternetExplorer
windows and stuffed the caption/url/hWnd to the listbox. I wanted to
take any of those columns and somehow activate the IE window...I did not
want to open another instance of IE for that URL.

It seems to work OK...using ShowWindow api with the hWnd and using
SW_RESTORE (9) as the value does the trick.

Nov 29 '05 #6

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Yes, I think the function should be declared as

Private Declare Function APISetFocus Lib "user32" _
Alias "SetFocus" _
(ByVal hWnd As Long) _
As Long

and called as APISetFocus to clear up that confusion.

Nov 29 '05 #7

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Go to http://www.mvps.org/vb and search for ForceForegroundWindow. This
will give you a module which you can drop in and call the function
(ForceForegroundWindow) to force the window to the top of the z order.

--
Terry Kreft

"salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
news:08****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
I have contained in a listbox the Window's caption, the class name for the
window, and the hWND of the window.

Is there a way, using the data from above, to activate/set focus to that
window?

Nov 29 '05 #8

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Hello PleaseStopAdvertising,

This might seem a little ironic, but here goes...

I just went live with a new outsourcing Web site just like guru.com
called braintrade.biz and I am noticing that you continually refer
users/abusers to guru.com . Is there a reason you have chosen guru.com
over the other alternatives? Do you have any suggestions for me to
<snip> guru.com and <insert> braintrade.biz? (--:

Just Getting Off The Ground,

Nathan Deneau
Founder And Creator
Braintrade.biz

Nov 29 '05 #9

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"Nate" <na**********@braintrade.biz> wrote in message
news:11*********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
Hello PleaseStopAdvertising,

This might seem a little ironic, but here goes...

I just went live with a new outsourcing Web site just like guru.com
called braintrade.biz and I am noticing that you continually refer
users/abusers to guru.com . Is there a reason you have chosen guru.com
over the other alternatives? Do you have any suggestions for me to
<snip> guru.com and <insert> braintrade.biz? (--:

Just Getting Off The Ground,

Nathan Deneau
Founder And Creator
Braintrade.biz


Sorry Nate, I didn't mean to slight your new site. If I post that message
again, I'll be sure to include braintrade.biz.

I probably won't be posting it again, however. It seems that very few people
here share my objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.
Dec 1 '05 #10

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Are you starting to take Salad's advise and growing up? Now quit
sending emails to my office.

"If you have anything to contribute to the group, contribute. Your war
with Datasheet is simply pissing and moaning in the wind for the sake of
nothing. Grow up and get a life."

Salad

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.

"PleaseStopAdvertising" <no****@pcdatasheet.com> wrote in message
news:xx*****************@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...

"Nate" <na**********@braintrade.biz> wrote in message
news:11*********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
Hello PleaseStopAdvertising,

This might seem a little ironic, but here goes...

I just went live with a new outsourcing Web site just like guru.com
called braintrade.biz and I am noticing that you continually refer
users/abusers to guru.com . Is there a reason you have chosen guru.com
over the other alternatives? Do you have any suggestions for me to
<snip> guru.com and <insert> braintrade.biz? (--:

Just Getting Off The Ground,

Nathan Deneau
Founder And Creator
Braintrade.biz


Sorry Nate, I didn't mean to slight your new site. If I post that message
again, I'll be sure to include braintrade.biz.

I probably won't be posting it again, however. It seems that very few
people
here share my objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.

Dec 1 '05 #11

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:QU*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Are you starting to take Salad's advise and growing up? Now quit
sending emails to my office.

"If you have anything to contribute to the group, contribute. Your war
with Datasheet is simply pissing and moaning in the wind for the sake of
nothing. Grow up and get a life."

Salad

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1000 Access users have come to me for help. My fees are very
reasonable.


Steve,

In addition to spamming newsgroups, you're a liar, a cheat and a thief.

You've told countless lies in your postings in this newsgroups. This has
been apparent. I have never sent an email to you.
You've cheated customers that have tried to do business with you. This is
documented in usenet postings.
You sell, or attempt to sell, code that others have contributed to free
newsgroups. You advertise it in usenet.

Randy Harris

Dec 1 '05 #12

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"PleaseStopAdvertising" <no****@pcdatasheet.com> wrote
. . . It seems that very few people here share my
objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.


For what it's worth, I object to Steve Santus' (aka PC Datasheet)
advertising here, too. The prohibition on advertising in the newsgroup is
contained in the FAQ, http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm (which
contains a copy of the charter).

I suggest that it would be more effective, however, if all who do object
would complain to Steve's news server and his ISP. Even that may not be
effective, but it seems clear that posting a followup to each and every post
has not been effective, either.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
Dec 1 '05 #13

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I agree with you, Larry.

Dec 1 '05 #14

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"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> schreef in bericht news:omGjf.1184$fY3.585@trnddc01...
"PleaseStopAdvertising" <no****@pcdatasheet.com> wrote
. . . It seems that very few people here share my
objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.


For what it's worth, I object to Steve Santus' (aka PC Datasheet)
advertising here, too. The prohibition on advertising in the newsgroup is
contained in the FAQ, http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm (which
contains a copy of the charter).

I suggest that it would be more effective, however, if all who do object
would complain to Steve's news server and his ISP. Even that may not be
effective, but it seems clear that posting a followup to each and every post
has not been effective, either.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP


Hi Larry,

Thanks for your support!

For what it's worth:
If you object (and I know you do) will you be so kind as to be the first to object to Steve's news server and his ISP please!
Tell us how, and we might follow you.
For me (from Holland) this is quite difficult. I simply don't know how these complaints 'work' in the US ...

As from now follow-ups will contain a link to this 'dedicated' website
This website is live since 2 days, and is already receiving some real attention ...
Look at: http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html
If all potential PCD-customers see this (and I guess they will ...)

So for this moment posting follow-ups will continue. It is up to Steve.

Arno R
Dec 1 '05 #15

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"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:omGjf.1184$fY3.585@trnddc01...
"PleaseStopAdvertising" <no****@pcdatasheet.com> wrote
> . . . It seems that very few people here share my
> objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.
For what it's worth, I object to Steve Santus' (aka PC Datasheet)
advertising here, too. The prohibition on advertising in the newsgroup is
contained in the FAQ, http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm (which
contains a copy of the charter).

I suggest that it would be more effective, however, if all who do object
would complain to Steve's news server and his ISP. Even that may not be
effective, but it seems clear that posting a followup to each and every

post has not been effective, either.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP


Thanks Larry.

We've been trying hard to discourage Steve without making "the cure worse
than the disease". We've been limiting the response post to one per thread
rather than each follow up by Steve. Also the "From" line on each post
contains the word "Advertising" to make it easier for regulars that don't
wish to see this unpleasantness to killfile the source.

It's hard to know what to do. I posed that question a week ago (the one that
launched the blizzard). There were only a couple of members that stated an
objection to the posts and a half dozen or so that stated support for the
effort. This, out of the hundreds of regulars. I don't know what to infer
from that. Do all the others simply not care? Feel intimidated? Or, simply
prefer that others do the "dirty work"?

Out of the many professional consultants that contribute to cdma regularly,
Steve is the only one that posts spam.

Randy Harris

Dec 1 '05 #16

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And tell us, Larry, how do you feel about Arno R sending unwanted email to
my office?

Steve
PC Datasheet
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:omGjf.1184$fY3.585@trnddc01...
"PleaseStopAdvertising" <no****@pcdatasheet.com> wrote
. . . It seems that very few people here share my
objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.


For what it's worth, I object to Steve Santus' (aka PC Datasheet)
advertising here, too. The prohibition on advertising in the newsgroup is
contained in the FAQ, http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm (which
contains a copy of the charter).

I suggest that it would be more effective, however, if all who do object
would complain to Steve's news server and his ISP. Even that may not be
effective, but it seems clear that posting a followup to each and every
post has not been effective, either.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

Dec 1 '05 #17

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Another question for you, Larry -----

Did you sign up to Lyle's call to provide FREE help to posters to the
newsgroups?

Steve
PC Datasheet

"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:omGjf.1184$fY3.585@trnddc01...
"PleaseStopAdvertising" <no****@pcdatasheet.com> wrote
. . . It seems that very few people here share my
objections to PC Datasheet's advertising.


For what it's worth, I object to Steve Santus' (aka PC Datasheet)
advertising here, too. The prohibition on advertising in the newsgroup is
contained in the FAQ, http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm (which
contains a copy of the charter).

I suggest that it would be more effective, however, if all who do object
would complain to Steve's news server and his ISP. Even that may not be
effective, but it seems clear that posting a followup to each and every
post has not been effective, either.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

Dec 1 '05 #18

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:Qr*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
And tell us, Larry, how do you feel about Arno R sending unwanted email to
my office?

Steve
PC Datasheet


Steve, read this carefully:

We asked you several times to proof this allegation.
If you don't stop with this annoying accusation I might *never* stop hunting you.
************************************************** ***************************
For now the plan is that we will stop hunting you as soon as you go back to your old sig.
But I *might* reconsider that. I am serious.

You are not able to stop any of us from hunting you.
Look at the website and think of it.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)

Arno R
Dec 2 '05 #19

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:Qr*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
And tell us, Larry, how do you feel about Arno R sending unwanted email to
my office?

Steve
PC Datasheet


You mean, as opposed to you sending unwanted mail to people who use Usenet
newsgroup?

Just one example:

http://groups.google.nl/groups?hl=nl...TNGP10.phx.gbl

Randy Harris

Dec 2 '05 #20

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"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
news:el****************@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net ...

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:Qr*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
And tell us, Larry, how do you feel about Arno R sending unwanted email to my office?

Steve
PC Datasheet
You mean, as opposed to you sending unwanted mail to people who use Usenet
newsgroup?

Just one example:

http://groups.google.nl/groups?hl=nl...TNGP10.phx.gbl
Randy Harris


Besides Steve, Larry and everyone else on cdma knows that is a lie. Arno has
never sent email to your office.

Dec 2 '05 #21

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> "Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message

Besides Steve, Larry and everyone else on cdma knows that is a lie. Arno
has
never sent email to your office.

Actually Arno has admitted to sending a email (not single) to steve, but it
was at steve's request. Unfortunately, steve has miracleously turned that
into many.
I wonder what he would do with fish?

John... Visio MVP

Dec 2 '05 #22

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Before steve assumes I agree with him, that was "note single" not "not
single".

John... Visio MVP

"John Marshall, MVP" <la******@stonehenge.ca> wrote in message
news:7O********************@magma.ca...
"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message

Besides Steve, Larry and everyone else on cdma knows that is a lie. Arno
has
never sent email to your office.

Actually Arno has admitted to sending a email (not single) to steve, but
it was at steve's request. Unfortunately, steve has miracleously turned
that into many.
I wonder what he would do with fish?

John... Visio MVP

Dec 2 '05 #23

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"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
news:Zu*****************@newssvr22.news.prodigy.ne t...

Besides Steve, Larry and everyone else on cdma knows that is a lie. Arno
has
never sent email to your office.

Office? Comic book store, surely?
Dec 2 '05 #24

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"StopThisAdvertising" <StopThisAdvertising@DataShit> wrote in message
news:43**********************@text.nova.planet.nl. ..
For what it's worth:
If you object (and I know you do) will you be so kind as to be the first
to object to Steve's news server and his ISP please!
Tell us how, and we might follow you.
For me (from Holland) this is quite difficult. I simply don't know how
these complaints 'work' in the US ...


I would certainly be interested in how to effect such complaints.
Dec 2 '05 #25

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"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...
See the thread headed by:
http://groups.google.ca/group/comp.d...a72024eefcbca6


Complaint submitted, thanks.
Dec 2 '05 #27

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And you too, Lyle, how do you feel about Arno R sending unwanted email to my
office? He's not the goody-goody you seem to think he is!!

And by the way, how many MVPs signed up to your call to provide FREE help to
posters in the newsgroups?

Steve
PC Datasheet
"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
I agree with you, Larry.


Dec 3 '05 #28

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:EC****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
And by the way, how many MVPs signed up to your call to provide FREE help
to
posters in the newsgroups?


No one has to sign up to provide FREE help, that is NORMAL behaviour for the
rest of the posters in these newsgroups.

John... Visio MVP
Dec 3 '05 #29

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You certanly could not have signed up, you are too dimwitted!!!! And your
pal Arno R is too busy sending emails to my office to provide help in the
newsgroups.

Lyle Fairfield put out a call for MVPs to sign up to provide help and use a
special signature line and zilch MVPs signed up.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.


"John Marshall, MVP" <la******@stonehenge.ca> wrote in message
news:Y4********************@magma.ca...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:EC****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
And by the way, how many MVPs signed up to your call to provide FREE help
to
posters in the newsgroups?


No one has to sign up to provide FREE help, that is NORMAL behaviour for
the rest of the posters in these newsgroups.

John... Visio MVP

Dec 3 '05 #30

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Over 1050 developers and MVPs have come from the newsgroups trusting me
and offerring free help, Steve.

Dec 3 '05 #31

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You're a jerk, Lyle!!

You got zilch response to your call!! Just shows what the MVPs think of you.

There's a lot of truth to what XMVP has said about you.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.


"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
Over 1050 developers and MVPs have come from the newsgroups trusting me
and offerring free help, Steve.

Dec 3 '05 #32

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PC Datasheet wrote:
Lyle Fairfield put out a call for MVPs to sign up to provide help and use a
special signature line and zilch MVPs signed up.


You're saying no MVPs help here? Interesting, I am where I am today
because of people like Lyle and others. You need to swithc to decaf, m
friend.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto
Dec 4 '05 #33

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PC Datasheet wrote:
Another question for you, Larry -----

Did you sign up to Lyle's call to provide FREE help to posters to the
newsgroups?


This call went out when cdma was created in the early 90s and people
have been providing free help since then. WTF are you babbling about?
Are you trying to convince potential customers you are trolling for that
they will not get help from this group? If not, then what are you going
on about?

--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto
Dec 4 '05 #34

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Keith W wrote:
For me (from Holland) this is quite difficult. I simply don't know how
these complaints 'work' in the US ...


I would certainly be interested in how to effect such complaints.


Folks, it's pretty simple. TUrn on full headers in your newsreader and
extract the following:

X-Complaints-To: ab***@earthlink.net

Any ISP will want you to forward the post with full headers. If your
newsreader simply shows address, subject and date (and perhaps
organization), that's not good enough. Turn our format to full headers
and then forward the message. Provide a reasonable and not intolerant
sounding message such as:

"This user is consistently ignoring the charter of
comp.databases.ms-access, which is found at
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm, by advertising his services"
etc, etc.

This works when it happens enough times.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto
Dec 4 '05 #35

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Are you John Marshall's brother and can't read too???

It says no MVPs signed on to Lyle Fairfield's call!

You need to switch to Mountain Dew fellow!!!
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:dm**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
Lyle Fairfield put out a call for MVPs to sign up to provide help and use
a special signature line and zilch MVPs signed up.


You're saying no MVPs help here? Interesting, I am where I am today
because of people like Lyle and others. You need to swithc to decaf, m
friend.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto

Dec 4 '05 #36

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Isn't that the Marshal familly, Steve?

Dec 4 '05 #37

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"PC Datasheet" wrote
Another question for you, Larry -----

Did you sign up to Lyle's call to provide FREE help to posters to the
newsgroups?


Steve,

At your current rate, I'd estimate you would likely have to live three or
more lifetimes to post as many advertisements, arguments, and answers to
this newsgroup as I have posted answers, all of which were FREE help to the
posters to this newsgroup. I was one of the official approvers of creation
of this newsgroup in 1993, and have been providing FREE (and nothing but
FREE) help to posters in the newsgroup ever since. That is the PURPOSE of
newsgroups -- to provide FREE help. It does not require "signing on" to
anything but the newsgroup.

Larry Linson

Dec 4 '05 #38

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PC Datasheet wrote:
It says no MVPs signed on to Lyle Fairfield's call!


I wonder what of Lyle's code and MVP's code provided here for *free*
(you seem to be sating no MVPs are helping people here) is on the cd
you're peddling for $125?

Don't you think it's funny that multiple people are joining in trashing
your behaviour here? Funny, isn't it, how they aren't railing after
anyone else? Now why would that be? Notice too, they are concentrating
on your BEHAVIOUR and not personal atacks the way you respond.

I think you're an intelligent man who has amply displayed such on the
newsgroups outside of these brawls. Therefore, you know that personal
attacks are ALWAYS a sign that the instigator realizes he is wrong and
has no other recourse besides admitting he's wrong.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Dec 4 '05 #39

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<< Therefore, you know that personal attacks are ALWAYS a sign that the
instigator realizes he is wrong and
has no other recourse besides admitting he's wrong.>>

You describe Arno R, John Marshall, Randy Harris and Keith Wilby to a T.
Just look at their posts and also count up how many contributions they have
made to CDMA in the past six months. This thread is an excellent example to
look at. I made a reasonable response to Salad. Arno R and his goons would
rather attack me (or send emails to my home) then help the poster. Count up
the responses by this quad of dimwits and note how many responses of theirs
were to help Salad.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:dm**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
It says no MVPs signed on to Lyle Fairfield's call!


I wonder what of Lyle's code and MVP's code provided here for *free* (you
seem to be sating no MVPs are helping people here) is on the cd you're
peddling for $125?

Don't you think it's funny that multiple people are joining in trashing
your behaviour here? Funny, isn't it, how they aren't railing after
anyone else? Now why would that be? Notice too, they are concentrating
on your BEHAVIOUR and not personal atacks the way you respond.

I think you're an intelligent man who has amply displayed such on the
newsgroups outside of these brawls. Therefore, you know that personal
attacks are ALWAYS a sign that the instigator realizes he is wrong and has
no other recourse besides admitting he's wrong.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Dec 4 '05 #40

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WRONG!!!

Lyle put a call in CDMA within the past 4 to 6 weeks asking for MVPs and any
one else interested to form a group with a special signature line to provide
help in the newsgroup. He got zilch response. It's obvious you did not
respond. Ask Lyle!!!!
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.


"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:dm**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
Another question for you, Larry -----

Did you sign up to Lyle's call to provide FREE help to posters to the
newsgroups?


This call went out when cdma was created in the early 90s and people have
been providing free help since then. WTF are you babbling about? Are you
trying to convince potential customers you are trolling for that they will
not get help from this group? If not, then what are you going on about?

--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto

Dec 4 '05 #41

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Yes, there's no dispute about the number of times you appear as a responder
but let's take a look at many of your responses --
- in many of your responses you say "...in my experience with this .." or
".. in my experience with that .." you would likely have to live three or
more lifetimes to get the experience you boast to have. You must have got a
lot of experience after you came to me a couple of years ago and asked if I
could subcontract some of the work I was doing for people from the
newsgroups to you!!
- in many of your posts, all you do is sermonize and when it is distilled
down looking for useful information, there's nothing there
- it's obvious in many of your posts that all you want to do is paint a
picture of a holier - than - thou Larry Linson whom everyone should listen
to and be spellbound.
- it's obvious in many of your posts that all you want to do is flaunt that
you are an MVP

You have let becoming an MVP go to your head!
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Over 1050 users have come from the newsgroups trusting me and requesting
help.
My fees are very reasonable.

"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:sitkf.1475$xg1.798@trnddc03...
"PC Datasheet" wrote
Another question for you, Larry -----

Did you sign up to Lyle's call to provide FREE help to posters to the
newsgroups?


Steve,

At your current rate, I'd estimate you would likely have to live three or
more lifetimes to post as many advertisements, arguments, and answers to
this newsgroup as I have posted answers, all of which were FREE help to
the posters to this newsgroup. I was one of the official approvers of
creation of this newsgroup in 1993, and have been providing FREE (and
nothing but FREE) help to posters in the newsgroup ever since. That is the
PURPOSE of newsgroups -- to provide FREE help. It does not require
"signing on" to anything but the newsgroup.

Larry Linson


Dec 4 '05 #42

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:1f****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
WRONG!!!

Lyle put a call in CDMA within the past 4 to 6 weeks asking for MVPs and any
one else interested to form a group with a special signature line to provide
help in the newsgroup. He got zilch response. It's obvious you did not
respond. Ask Lyle!!!!


It is also obvious that you apparently did *not get* Lyle's message.
Just like a lot of other messages...
Sad...
I *do* feel pity for you: no brains, no support, no dignity left, no nothing but zilch
All sad.

Be sensible. Stop this thing.
*You* are in control Steve!!

Arno R
Dec 4 '05 #43

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1f****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
WRONG!!!


So the original charter for CDMA was pay only support? A lot of us missed
that in the fine print.

John... Visio MVP
Dec 4 '05 #44

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:pa****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net:
Arno R and his goons would
rather attack me (or send emails to my home) then help the poster.


Get a clue: welcome to Usenet.

Use your ISP's or a local spam filter to blacklist their email
addresses and then you'll never see their email to you.

Killfile them in your newsreader and you won't have to see their
"attacks" on you.

If you don't do that, and continue to conduct this silly little spat
in public, then you'll just look like a total wanker who is only
spoiling for a fight.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Dec 4 '05 #45

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:1f****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net:
Lyle put a call in CDMA within the past 4 to 6 weeks asking for
MVPs and any one else interested to form a group with a special
signature line to provide help in the newsgroup


Give us the MessageID for that post ro shut up.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Dec 4 '05 #46

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Ask Lyle. He posted the call!
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bway.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xn**********************************@216.196. 97.142...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:1f****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net:
Lyle put a call in CDMA within the past 4 to 6 weeks asking for
MVPs and any one else interested to form a group with a special
signature line to provide help in the newsgroup


Give us the MessageID for that post ro shut up.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

Dec 6 '05 #47

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:So***************@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net:
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bway.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xn**********************************@216.196. 97.142...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:1f****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net:
Lyle put a call in CDMA within the past 4 to 6 weeks asking for
MVPs and any one else interested to form a group with a special
signature line to provide help in the newsgroup


Give us the MessageID for that post ro shut up.


Ask Lyle. He posted the call!


You're the one using Lyle's supposed call as evidence for your case.

Post the MessageID or stop posting about what Lyle did or did not
do.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Dec 6 '05 #48

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Is there anyone who would like to join me in a cadre in "free help"
providers. We would regularly respond to advertising posts with one
saying something like:
If you can't get the help you need in the newsgroup try contacting
wh******@domain.com; if one of our group can help through direct e-mail
and consultation we will. Our group includes:

John Doe (experience and expertise)
etc

And Lyle got ZILCH response!!

"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bway.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xn**********************************@216.196. 97.142...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:So***************@newsread2.news.atl.earthlin k.net:
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bway.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xn**********************************@216.196. 97.142...
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in
news:1f****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net:

Lyle put a call in CDMA within the past 4 to 6 weeks asking for
MVPs and any one else interested to form a group with a special
signature line to provide help in the newsgroup

Give us the MessageID for that post ro shut up.


Ask Lyle. He posted the call!


You're the one using Lyle's supposed call as evidence for your case.

Post the MessageID or stop posting about what Lyle did or did not
do.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

Dec 6 '05 #49

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:pQ*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Is there anyone who would like to join me in a cadre in "free help"
providers. We would regularly respond to advertising posts with one
saying something like:
If you can't get the help you need in the newsgroup try contacting
wh******@domain.com; if one of our group can help through direct e-mail
and consultation we will. Our group includes:

John Doe (experience and expertise)
etc

And Lyle got ZILCH response!!


As I said to you earlier in this thread:
<quote>
It is also obvious that you apparently did *not get* Lyle's message.
Just like a lot of other messages...
Sad...
I *do* feel pity for you: no brains, no support, no dignity left, no nothing but zilch
All sad.
</quote>

Arno R
Dec 6 '05 #50

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