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Jun 25 '06 #1
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microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet


"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for that?

Jun 26 '06 #2
Dancer,

It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript, pluggins etc
question than you are probably the best off in the newsgroup as Scott
stated.

Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask it in
one of the language newsgroups as

microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth languages
jsharp)

If it has to do with data (adonet) than
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet

If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups as
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data

Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and in
version 2005 in 6 those are:
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
structured.
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code structured.
With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with project
addition)
With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
Both last but than with compiled DLL's.

If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as Scott
stated.

I hope this helps

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for that?

Jun 26 '06 #3
Cor,
You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can you
help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very beginning. I have
IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and see the results on my
personal server.
I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on my
computer and then installed it.

But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even though I
can see the results of the SAME file published on my website.

I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the folder
v1.0.3705.

I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to do the
same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.

How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing to the
website?

Thank you!


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript, pluggins
etc question than you are probably the best off in the newsgroup as Scott
stated.

Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask it
in one of the language newsgroups as

microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
languages jsharp)

If it has to do with data (adonet) than
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet

If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups as
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data

Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and in
version 2005 in 6 those are:
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
structured.
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code structured.
With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with project
addition)
With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
Both last but than with compiled DLL's.

If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as
Scott stated.

I hope this helps

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for that?


Jun 29 '06 #4
Dancer,

The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are starting
and can use 2.0.
For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool available.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

I hope this helps,

Cor
A good help site while using the
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Cor,
You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can you
help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very beginning. I have
IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and see the results on my
personal server.
I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on my
computer and then installed it.

But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even though I
can see the results of the SAME file published on my website.

I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the folder
v1.0.3705.

I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to do
the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.

How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing to
the website?

Thank you!


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript, pluggins
etc question than you are probably the best off in the newsgroup as Scott
stated.

Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask it
in one of the language newsgroups as

microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
languages jsharp)

If it has to do with data (adonet) than
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet

If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups as
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data

Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and in
version 2005 in 6 those are:
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
structured.
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
structured.
With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with project
addition)
With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
Both last but than with compiled DLL's.

If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as
Scott stated.

I hope this helps

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for
that?



Jun 30 '06 #5
That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages using
IIS?
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
starting and can use 2.0.
For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool available.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

I hope this helps,

Cor
A good help site while using the
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Cor,
You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can you
help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very beginning. I
have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and see the results on
my personal server.
I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on my
computer and then installed it.

But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even though
I can see the results of the SAME file published on my website.

I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the folder
v1.0.3705.

I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to do
the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.

How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing to
the website?

Thank you!


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript, pluggins
etc question than you are probably the best off in the newsgroup as
Scott stated.

Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask it
in one of the language newsgroups as

microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
languages jsharp)

If it has to do with data (adonet) than
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet

If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups as
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data

Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and in
version 2005 in 6 those are:
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
structured.
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
structured.
With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
project addition)
With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
Both last but than with compiled DLL's.

If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as
Scott stated.

I hope this helps

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for
that?



Jun 30 '06 #6
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i

This is located in your framework/bin folder.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages
using IIS?
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
starting and can use 2.0.
For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool available.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

I hope this helps,

Cor
A good help site while using the
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Cor,
You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can you
help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very beginning. I
have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and see the results
on my personal server.
I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on my
computer and then installed it.

But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even though
I can see the results of the SAME file published on my website.

I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the folder
v1.0.3705.

I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to do
the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.

How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing to
the website?

Thank you!


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
newsgroup as Scott stated.

Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask
it in one of the language newsgroups as

microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
languages jsharp)

If it has to do with data (adonet) than
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet

If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups as
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data

Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and
in version 2005 in 6 those are:
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
structured.
Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
structured.
With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
project addition)
With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
Both last but than with compiled DLL's.

If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as
Scott stated.

I hope this helps

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for
> that?
>



Jun 30 '06 #7
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i

This is located in your framework/bin folder.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages
using IIS?
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
starting and can use 2.0.
For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool available.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

I hope this helps,

Cor
A good help site while using the
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Cor,
You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can
you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very beginning.
I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and see the
results on my personal server.
I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on
my computer and then installed it.

But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my website.

I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the folder
v1.0.3705.

I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to
do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.

How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing
to the website?

Thank you!


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Dancer,
>
> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>
> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask
> it in one of the language newsgroups as
>
> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
> languages jsharp)
>
> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>
> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups
> as
> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>
> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and
> in version 2005 in 6 those are:
> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
> structured.
> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
> structured.
> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
> project addition)
> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>
> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as
> Scott stated.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Cor
>
>
>
> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for
>> that?
>>
>
>



Jun 30 '06 #8
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework beside
Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i

This is located in your framework/bin folder.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages
using IIS?
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
starting and can use 2.0.
For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool available.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

I hope this helps,

Cor
A good help site while using the
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Cor,
> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can
> you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very beginning.
> I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and see the
> results on my personal server.
> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on
> my computer and then installed it.
>
> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my website.
>
> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the folder
> v1.0.3705.
>
> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to
> do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>
> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing
> to the website?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Dancer,
>>
>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>
>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better ask
>> it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>
>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
>> languages jsharp)
>>
>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>
>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups
>> as
>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>
>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways and
>> in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
>> structured.
>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>> structured.
>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
>> project addition)
>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>
>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly as
>> Scott stated.
>>
>> I hope this helps
>>
>> Cor
>>
>>
>>
>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for
>>> that?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jun 30 '06 #9
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account that
it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework
beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i

This is located in your framework/bin folder.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages
using IIS?
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Dancer,
>
> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
> starting and can use 2.0.
> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool available.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Cor
>
>
> A good help site while using the
> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Cor,
>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can
>> you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very
>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and
>> see the results on my personal server.
>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it on
>> my computer and then installed it.
>>
>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>> website.
>>
>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the
>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>
>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try to
>> do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>>
>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of publishing
>> to the website?
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Dancer,
>>>
>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>
>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better
>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>
>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
>>> languages jsharp)
>>>
>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>
>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data newsgroups
>>> as
>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>
>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways
>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
>>> structured.
>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>>> structured.
>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
>>> project addition)
>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>
>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly
>>> as Scott stated.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps
>>>
>>> Cor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum for
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jun 30 '06 #10
Thank you, Scott! 5 more questions:
1. What does the -i switch do?

2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?

3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning 1.x?

4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the regiis?

5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework
beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i

This is located in your framework/bin folder.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages
> using IIS?
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Dancer,
>>
>> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
>> starting and can use 2.0.
>> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>> available.
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Cor
>>
>>
>> A good help site while using the
>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Cor,
>>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly. Can
>>> you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very
>>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and
>>> see the results on my personal server.
>>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it
>>> on my computer and then installed it.
>>>
>>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
>>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>> website.
>>>
>>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the
>>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>>
>>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try
>>> to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>>>
>>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>> publishing to the website?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Dancer,
>>>>
>>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>
>>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better
>>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>
>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
>>>> languages jsharp)
>>>>
>>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>
>>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>> newsgroups as
>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>>
>>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways
>>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
>>>> structured.
>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>>>> structured.
>>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
>>>> project addition)
>>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
>>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>
>>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly
>>>> as Scott stated.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>
>>>> Cor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum
>>>>> for that?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jun 30 '06 #11
> 1. What does the -i switch do?

install
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that already
exists.
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning 1.x?
That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
regiis?
Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?
No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT framework
folder.



"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.



"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework
beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>
> This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>
>
> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages
>> using IIS?
>>
>>
>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Dancer,
>>>
>>> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are
>>> starting and can use 2.0.
>>> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>> available.
>>>
>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>
>>> I hope this helps,
>>>
>>> Cor
>>>
>>>
>>> A good help site while using the
>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Cor,
>>>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly.
>>>> Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very
>>>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and
>>>> see the results on my personal server.
>>>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it
>>>> on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>
>>>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
>>>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>> website.
>>>>
>>>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the
>>>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>
>>>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try
>>>> to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>>>>
>>>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>> publishing to the website?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>
>>>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>>>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>>>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better
>>>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>
>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth
>>>>> languages jsharp)
>>>>>
>>>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>
>>>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>> newsgroups as
>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>>>
>>>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways
>>>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not
>>>>> structured.
>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>>>>> structured.
>>>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with
>>>>> project addition)
>>>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)
>>>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly
>>>>> as Scott stated.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>
>>>>> Cor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum
>>>>>> for that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jul 1 '06 #12
>> 5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?

No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT framework
folder.

Scott, I never did that.
But it does probably not hurt,

Cor
Jul 1 '06 #13
Normally, you don't need to run this...ever. But, it's the first thing I
check when I hear the symptoms described here and it is usually the fix for
it. And, as you say, it doesn't hurt.
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OV****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?


No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT framework
folder.

Scott, I never did that.
But it does probably not hurt,

Cor

Jul 1 '06 #14

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?


install
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?


It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that already
exists.
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning 1.x?


That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
regiis?


Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?


No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT framework
folder.



"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.



"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework
beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> How do I do that?
> I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
> C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that> file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>
> What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
> If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> "Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>
>> This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>
>>
>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages>>> using IIS?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Dancer,
>>>>
>>>> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>>> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are>>>> starting and can use 2.0.
>>>> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>
>>>> Cor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A good help site while using the
>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Cor,
>>>>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly.
>>>>> Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very
>>>>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and>>>>> see the results on my personal server.
>>>>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it>>>>> on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
>>>>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>>> website.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the
>>>>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try>>>>> to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>> publishing to the website?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>>>>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>>>>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better>>>>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth>>>>>> languages jsharp)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>> newsgroups as
>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways>>>>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with>>>>>> project addition)
>>>>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)>>>>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly>>>>>> as Scott stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum
>>>>>>> for that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jul 1 '06 #15
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to. So why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?


install
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?


It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that already
exists.
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning 1.x?


That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
regiis?


Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?


No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT framework
folder.



"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.



"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework
beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> How do I do that?
> I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
> C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that> file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>
> What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
> If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using 2.0?
>
> Thank you for your help!
>
> "Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>
>> This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>
>>
>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages>>> using IIS?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Dancer,
>>>>
>>>> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>>> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are>>>> starting and can use 2.0.
>>>> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>
>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>
>>>> Cor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A good help site while using the
>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Cor,
>>>>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly.
>>>>> Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very
>>>>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and>>>>> see the results on my personal server.
>>>>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it>>>>> on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer, even
>>>>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>>> website.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the
>>>>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try>>>>> to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>> publishing to the website?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>>>>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>>>>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better>>>>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth>>>>>> languages jsharp)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>> newsgroups as
>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways>>>>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with>>>>>> project addition)
>>>>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition)>>>>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly>>>>>> as Scott stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another forum
>>>>>>> for that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jul 1 '06 #16
Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required. Your
code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code isn't
going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.

But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What you are
working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.

"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to. So why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> 1. What does the -i switch do?


install
> 2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?


It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.
> 3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning
> 1.x?


That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
> 4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
> regiis?


Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
> 5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?


No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT framework
folder.

>
>
> "Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>
>> From the start menu, choose Run.
>> In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>
>> C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i
>>
>> This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>> account
>> that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>
>>
>>
>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Dancer,
>>>
>>> Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute that.
>>> (Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence
>>> of
>>> installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0 framework
>>> beside Net 1.x
>>>
>>> Cor
>>>
>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>> news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> How do I do that?
>>>> I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>> C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on that >>>> file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>
>>>> What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>> If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using
>>>> 2.0?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help!
>>>>
>>>> "Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>
>>>>> This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx pages >>>>>> using IIS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>>>>>> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you are >>>>>>> starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A good help site while using the
>>>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Cor,
>>>>>>>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain clearly.
>>>>>>>> Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the very
>>>>>>>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP files and >>>>>>>> see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I saved it >>>>>>>> on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer,
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is the
>>>>>>>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I try >>>>>>>> to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>>>>> publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css, javascript,
>>>>>>>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in the
>>>>>>>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can better >>>>>>>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or withouth >>>>>>>>> languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>>>>> newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4 ways >>>>>>>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code not >>>>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML code
>>>>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>>>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005 with >>>>>>>>> project addition)
>>>>>>>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project addition) >>>>>>>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is mostly >>>>>>>>> as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another
>>>>>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>>>>> for that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



Jul 1 '06 #17
I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server (a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages. That's why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
> code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
> going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.

But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What you
are
> working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.

"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
> > Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to. So
why
> > do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> > 1. What does the -i switch do?

install

> 2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?

It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.

> 3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning
> 1.x?

That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.

> 4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
> regiis?

Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.

> 5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?

No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
> >> folder.
>
>
> "Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>
>> From the start menu, choose Run.
>> In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>
>> C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_r egiis -i
>>
>> This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>> account
>> that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>
>>
>>
>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Dancer,
>>>
>>> Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
> >> >>> (Although it should not be needed can it be because of the sequence
>>> of
>>> installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
> >> >>> beside Net 1.x
>>>
>>> Cor
>>>
>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>> news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> How do I do that?
>>>> I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>> C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click on
that
> >> >>>> file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>
>>>> What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>> If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using
>>>> 2.0?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help!
>>>>
>>>> "Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>
>>>>> This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx
pages
> >> >>>>>> using IIS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>>>>>> But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that you
are
> >> >>>>>>> starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>> For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A good help site while using the
>>>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>> news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Cor,
>>>>>>>> You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
> >> >>>>>>>> Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
> >> >>>>>>>> beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
> > and
> >> >>>>>>>> see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>> I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
> > it
> >> >>>>>>>> on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer,
>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>> though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>> c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is
the
> >> >>>>>>>> folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/. I
try
> >> >>>>>>>> to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
> >> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>>>>> publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in
message
> >> >>>>>>>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
> >> >>>>>>>>> pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in
the
> >> >>>>>>>>> newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can
better
> >> >>>>>>>>> ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
> >> >>>>>>>>> languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>>>>> newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>> microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.data
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4
ways
> >> >>>>>>>>> and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
> > not
> >> >>>>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>>>>> Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
> >> >>>>>>>>> structured.
>>>>>>>>> With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005
with
> >> >>>>>>>>> project addition)
>>>>>>>>> With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
> >> >>>>>>>>> Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is
mostly
> >> >>>>>>>>> as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "dancer" <da****@microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>> news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another
>>>>>>>>>> forum
>>>>>>>>>> for that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 1 '06 #18
Somebody,

I would not say so, FrontPage is more pointed to the desinger, while ASPNet
to the developer.

ASPNet is probably more sufficient in interactive Websites (busines,
communictacion etc), while Frontpage is very good to make very nice
websites.

But you can try the free webdeveloper tool Express to try that.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/

Just my idea,

Cor
"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netschreef in bericht
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server (a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages. That's
why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.

But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What you
are
>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.

"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to. So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?

install

2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?

It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.

3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning
1.x?

That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.

4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
regiis?

Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running
a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.

5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?

No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
>folder.


"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_ regiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
sequence
of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>>beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click
on
that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using
2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>
This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>
>
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx
pages
>using IIS?
>>
>>
>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>message
>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>Dancer,
>>>
>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that
>>you
are
>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>available.
>>>
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>
>>I hope this helps,
>>>
>>Cor
>>>
>>>
>>A good help site while using the
>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>>>Cor,
>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>
>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer,
>>>even
>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>website.
>>>>
>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is
the
>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>
>>>I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/.
>>>I
try
>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>
>>>Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gb l...
>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>
>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in
the
>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>
>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can
better
>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>
>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>
>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>
>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.dat a
>>>>>
>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4
ways
>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
not
>>>>structured.
>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005
with
>>>>project addition)
>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>
>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is
mostly
>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>
>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>
>>>>Cor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ...
>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another
>>>>>forum
>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>






Jul 2 '06 #19
I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a page.
FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the way to
go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor right
for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server (a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages. That's
why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.

But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What you
are
>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.

"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to. So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?

install

2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?

It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.

3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning
1.x?

That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a 2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.

4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for the
regiis?

Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running
a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.

5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?

No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
>folder.


"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet_ regiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
sequence
of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>>beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click
on
that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?

What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using
2.0?

Thank you for your help!

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>
This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>
>
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see aspx
pages
>using IIS?
>>
>>
>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>message
>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>Dancer,
>>>
>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that
>>you
are
>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>available.
>>>
>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>
>>I hope this helps,
>>>
>>Cor
>>>
>>>
>>A good help site while using the
>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>>>Cor,
>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>
>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer,
>>>even
>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published on my
>>>website.
>>>>
>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is
the
>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>
>>>I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/.
>>>I
try
>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>
>>>Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gb l...
>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>
>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in
the
>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>
>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can
better
>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>
>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>
>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adonet
>>>>>
>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.dat a
>>>>>
>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in 4
ways
>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
not
>>>>structured.
>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and 2005
with
>>>>project addition)
>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>
>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is
mostly
>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>
>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>
>>>>Cor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ...
>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another
>>>>>forum
>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>






Jul 2 '06 #20
Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a page.
FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the way to
go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net...
>>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server
(a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages. That's
why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
>>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
>>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.

But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What you
are
>>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.

"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to. So
why
>do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?

install

2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?

It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.

3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of learning
1.x?

That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.

4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?

Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file. Running
a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.

5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?

No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
>>folder.


"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asnet _regiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,

Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
>>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
sequence
of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>>>beside Net 1.x

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
How do I do that?
I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click
on
that
file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>
What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before using
2.0?
>
Thank you for your help!
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>
>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>
>>
>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl.. .
>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>aspx
pages
>>using IIS?
>>>
>>>
>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>message
>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ...
>>>Dancer,
>>>>
>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your aspx.
>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that
>>>you
are
>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>available.
>>>>
>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>
>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>
>>>Cor
>>>>
>>>>
>>>A good help site while using the
>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>Cor,
>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
>>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
>and
>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
>it
>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>
>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my computer,
>>>>even
>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published on
>>>>my
>>>>website.
>>>>>
>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is
the
>>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>
>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/.
>>>>I
try
>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>
>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.g bl...
>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off in
the
>>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can
better
>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>
>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>
>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adone t
>>>>>>
>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.da ta
>>>>>>
>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in
>>>>>4
ways
>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>not
>>>>>structured.
>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>
>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup is
mostly
>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>
>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gb l...
>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another
>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>






Jul 3 '06 #21
It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it contains
lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few additional helpful
tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a page.
FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the way to
go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server
(a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages. That's
why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.

But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What you
are
working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.

"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?

install

2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?

It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.

3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
learning
1.x?

That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.

4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?

Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.

5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo something?

No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
folder.


"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
You need to run it with the -i switch.

From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):

C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asne t_regiis -i

This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Dancer,
>
Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
sequence
of
installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
beside Net 1.x
>
Cor
>
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>How do I do that?
>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322. Would I just click
>on
that
>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>
>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>using
>2.0?
>>
>Thank you for your help!
>>
>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>
>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>
>>>
>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>aspx
pages
>>>using IIS?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>message
>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gb l...
>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>
>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>aspx.
>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that
>>>>you
are
>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>>available.
>>>>>
>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>
>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>
>>>>Cor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ...
>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>computer,
>>>>>even
>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published on
>>>>>my
>>>>>website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there is
the
>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at http:/localhost/.
>>>>>I
try
>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off
>>>>>>in
the
>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you can
better
>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adon et
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.dat a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005 in
>>>>>>4
ways
>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
not
>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup
>>>>>>is
mostly
>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there another
>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>






Jul 3 '06 #22
Thank you, Scott and Cor. You have been very helpful. I have installed the
VWD and tried it a little. It looks like I need to learn Visual Basic before
I can do a lot with it. Is that what you think? I already know HTML well
enough to manage.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a page.
FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the way to
go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server
(a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
That's why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.
>
But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
you
are
working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>
>
>
"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?
>
install
>
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>
It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.
>
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
learning
1.x?
>
That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?
>
Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
something?
>
No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
folder.
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
You need to run it with the -i switch.
>
From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):
>
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asn et_regiis -i
>
This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

>
>
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
>Dancer,
>>
>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>sequence
>of
>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>beside Net 1.x
>>
>Cor
>>
>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>How do I do that?
>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322 . Would I just
>>click on
that
>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>
>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>using
>>2.0?
>>>
>>Thank you for your help!
>>>
>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>
>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl ...
>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>>aspx
pages
>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>message
>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that
>>>>>you
are
>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>>>available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gb l...
>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>even
>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published on
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there
>>>>>>is
the
>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
try
>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off
>>>>>>>in
the
>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>can
better
>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adone t
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.da ta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005
>>>>>>>in 4
ways
>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
not
>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup
>>>>>>>is
mostly
>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Jul 4 '06 #23
Also, is there any connection between VBA and VB for asp.net, or are they
completely separate languages?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a page.
FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the way to
go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net...
I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my server
(a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
That's why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your code
isn't
going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of time.
>
But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
you
are
working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
pages
become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>
>
>
"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
1. What does the -i switch do?
>
install
>
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>
It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account.
Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
already
exists.
>
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
learning
1.x?
>
That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
2005
Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?
>
Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
Running a
particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
something?
>
No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
folder.
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
You need to run it with the -i switch.
>
From the start menu, choose Run.
In the textbox, type (or copy):
>
C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\asn et_regiis -i
>
This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
account
that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.

>
>
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in message
news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
>Dancer,
>>
>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just execute
that.
>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>sequence
>of
>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>beside Net 1.x
>>
>Cor
>>
>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>How do I do that?
>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322 . Would I just
>>click on
that
>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>
>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>using
>>2.0?
>>>
>>Thank you for your help!
>>>
>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl.. .
>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>
>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl ...
>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>>aspx
pages
>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>message
>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea that
>>>>>you
are
>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating tool
>>>>>available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>
>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gb l...
>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from the
very
>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>even
>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published on
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there
>>>>>>is
the
>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
try
>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a blank
page.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble of
>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off
>>>>>>>in
the
>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>can
better
>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adone t
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the data
>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.da ta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005
>>>>>>>in 4
ways
>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
not
>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the HTML
code
>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup
>>>>>>>is
mostly
>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>




Jul 4 '06 #24
Yes, you sure will need to know a .NET language (such as VB.NET) before
you'll be able to do much of anything.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Thank you, Scott and Cor. You have been very helpful. I have installed
the VWD and tried it a little. It looks like I need to learn Visual Basic
before I can do a lot with it. Is that what you think? I already know
HTML well enough to manage.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a
page. FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the
way to go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my
>server (a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
That's why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
>manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
>(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your
>code
isn't
>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of
>time.
>>
>But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
>coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
>you
are
>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
>pages
>become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>>
>>
>>
>"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You
say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
1. What does the -i switch do?
>>
> install
>>
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>>
> It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>account.
>Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
>already
>exists.
>>
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
learning
1.x?
>>
> That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
>2005
>Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>>
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?
>>
> Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
>Running a
>particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>>
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
something?
>>
> No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
>folder.
>>
>>
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>
>From the start menu, choose Run.
>In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>
>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\as net_regiis -i
>>
>This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>account
>that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>
>>
>>
>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>message
>news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
>>Dancer,
>>>
>>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just
>>execute
that.
>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>>sequence
>>of
>>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>>beside Net 1.x
>>>
>>Cor
>>>
>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>>>How do I do that?
>>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.432 2. Would I just
>>>click on
that
>>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>
>>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>>using
>>>2.0?
>>>>
>>>Thank you for your help!
>>>>
>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>
>>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gb l...
>>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>>>aspx
pages
>>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea
>>>>>>that you
are
>>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating
>>>>>>tool
>>>>>>available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from
>>>>>>>the
very
>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published
>>>>>>>on my
>>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there
>>>>>>>is
the
>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
try
>>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a
>>>>>>>blank
page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.ph x.gbl...
>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off
>>>>>>>>in
the
>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>>can
better
>>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adon et
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the
>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.d ata
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005
>>>>>>>>in 4
ways
>>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>HTML
code
not
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>HTML
code
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup
>>>>>>>>is
mostly
>>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 5 '06 #25
VBA is when you write VB 6.0 code and embed it within an Office document.
This is not applicable to ASP.NET.

ASP.NET is not a language, it is an architecture for client/server
programming. HTML/CSS/JavaScript are the basis of the client side code and
one of the .NET languages is needed for the server side code. This is where
the VB.NET comes in. You won't be able to do much server side progamming
without it.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:uz**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Also, is there any connection between VBA and VB for asp.net, or are they
completely separate languages?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a
page. FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the
way to go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my
>server (a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
That's why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
>manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
>(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your
>code
isn't
>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of
>time.
>>
>But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
>coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
>you
are
>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
>pages
>become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>>
>>
>>
>"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You
say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
1. What does the -i switch do?
>>
> install
>>
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>>
> It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>account.
>Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
>already
>exists.
>>
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
learning
1.x?
>>
> That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
>2005
>Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>>
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?
>>
> Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
>Running a
>particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>>
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
something?
>>
> No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
>folder.
>>
>>
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>
>From the start menu, choose Run.
>In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>
>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\as net_regiis -i
>>
>This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>account
>that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>
>>
>>
>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>message
>news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
>>Dancer,
>>>
>>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just
>>execute
that.
>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>>sequence
>>of
>>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>>beside Net 1.x
>>>
>>Cor
>>>
>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>>>How do I do that?
>>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.432 2. Would I just
>>>click on
that
>>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>
>>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>>using
>>>2.0?
>>>>
>>>Thank you for your help!
>>>>
>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>
>>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gb l...
>>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>>>aspx
pages
>>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea
>>>>>>that you
are
>>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating
>>>>>>tool
>>>>>>available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from
>>>>>>>the
very
>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published
>>>>>>>on my
>>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there
>>>>>>>is
the
>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
try
>>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a
>>>>>>>blank
page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.ph x.gbl...
>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off
>>>>>>>>in
the
>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>>can
better
>>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adon et
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the
>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.d ata
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005
>>>>>>>>in 4
ways
>>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>HTML
code
not
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>HTML
code
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup
>>>>>>>>is
mostly
>>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 5 '06 #26
Dancer,

VBA and VBNet use a same semantic.

The same as C and C# does (and JavaScript)

For the rest in both situations it is a complete different use.

If you would know Dutch than the same as Dutch and Afrikaans however, than
in the same anology many more differences than English and Americans.

Cor

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
news:uz**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Also, is there any connection between VBA and VB for asp.net, or are they
completely separate languages?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a
page. FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the
way to go.

Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started. Visual
Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to decide which
version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can pick the flavor
right for you.

"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net...
>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my
>server (a
Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
password
capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
That's why
I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like Front
Page?
Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
purchase?
Thank you.
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely required.
Your
>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
>manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
>(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your
>code
isn't
>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of
>time.
>>
>But without some kind of development environment, you won't get color
>coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
>you
are
>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
>pages
>become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>>
>>
>>
>"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You
say
Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and then
published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
So
why
do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
1. What does the -i switch do?
>>
> install
>>
2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>>
> It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>account.
>Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything that
>already
>exists.
>>
3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
learning
1.x?
>>
> That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
>2005
>Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>>
4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command for
the
regiis?
>>
> Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
>Running a
>particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>>
5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
something?
>>
> No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
framework
>folder.
>>
>>
>
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>
>From the start menu, choose Run.
>In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>
>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\as net_regiis -i
>>
>This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>account
>that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>
>>
>>
>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>message
>news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
>>Dancer,
>>>
>>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just
>>execute
that.
>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>>sequence
>>of
>>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
framework
>>beside Net 1.x
>>>
>>Cor
>>>
>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>>>How do I do that?
>>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.432 2. Would I just
>>>click on
that
>>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>
>>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>>using
>>>2.0?
>>>>
>>>Thank you for your help!
>>>>
>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running: ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>
>>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gb l...
>>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>>>aspx
pages
>>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>>message
>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea
>>>>>>that you
are
>>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating
>>>>>>tool
>>>>>>available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
clearly.
>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from
>>>>>>>the
very
>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create ASP
files
and
>>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework. I
saved
it
>>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published
>>>>>>>on my
>>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there
>>>>>>>is
the
>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
try
>>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a
>>>>>>>blank
page.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
message
>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.ph x.gbl...
>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
javascript,
>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best off
>>>>>>>>in
the
>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>>can
better
>>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb (or csharp or vc or
withouth
>>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.adon et
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the
>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb.d ata
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005
>>>>>>>>in 4
ways
>>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>HTML
code
not
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>HTML
code
>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>>>2005
with
>>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without project
addition)
>>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your newsgroup
>>>>>>>>is
mostly
>>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 5 '06 #27
What is the best way to learn VB.net?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uJ***************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
VBA is when you write VB 6.0 code and embed it within an Office document.
This is not applicable to ASP.NET.

ASP.NET is not a language, it is an architecture for client/server
programming. HTML/CSS/JavaScript are the basis of the client side code
and one of the .NET languages is needed for the server side code. This is
where the VB.NET comes in. You won't be able to do much server side
progamming without it.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:uz**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>Also, is there any connection between VBA and VB for asp.net, or are they
completely separate languages?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl.. .
Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a
>page. FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is
>the way to go.
>
Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started.
Visual Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to
decide which version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can
pick the flavor right for you.
>
"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net...
>>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my
>>server (a
>Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
>password
>capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
>That's why
>I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like
>Front Page?
>Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
>purchase?
>Thank you.
>>
>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
>>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely
>>required.
>Your
>>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your code
>>manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
>>(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your
>>code
>isn't
>>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of
>>time.
>>>
>>But without some kind of development environment, you won't get
>>color
>>coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
>>you
>are
>>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
>>pages
>>become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>>news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas.e arthlink.net...
>Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You
>say
>Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and
>then
>published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected to.
>So
>why
>do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
>>
>>
>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>1. What does the -i switch do?
>>>
>> install
>>>
>2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>>>
>> It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET user
>>account.
>>Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything
>>that
>>already
>>exists.
>>>
>3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
>learning
>1.x?
>>>
>> That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or a
>>2005
>>Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>>>
>4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command
>for the
>regiis?
>>>
>> Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
>>Running a
>>particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>>>
>5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
>something?
>>>
>> No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
>framework
>>folder.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>>
>>From the start menu, choose Run.
>>In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>>
>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\a snet_regiis -i
>>>
>>This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET
>>user
>>account
>>that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>message
>>news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl.. .
>>>Dancer,
>>>>
>>>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just
>>>execute
>that.
>>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>>>sequence
>>>of
>>>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
>framework
>>>beside Net 1.x
>>>>
>>>Cor
>>>>
>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>How do I do that?
>>>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322 . Would I just
>>>>click on
>that
>>>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>>
>>>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>>>using
>>>>2.0?
>>>>>
>>>>Thank you for your help!
>>>>>
>>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl ...
>>>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running:
>>>>>ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>>
>>>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.g bl...
>>>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I see
>>>>>>aspx
>pages
>>>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>>>message
>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea
>>>>>>>that you
>are
>>>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating
>>>>>>>tool
>>>>>>>available.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
>clearly.
>>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from
>>>>>>>>the
>very
>>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create
>>>>>>>>ASP
>files
>and
>>>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework.
>>>>>>>>I
>saved
>it
>>>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published
>>>>>>>>on my
>>>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also there
>>>>>>>>is
>the
>>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
>try
>>>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a
>>>>>>>>blank
>page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>message
>>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.p hx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
>javascript,
>>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best
>>>>>>>>>off in
>the
>>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>>>can
>better
>>>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.v b (or csharp or vc
>>>>>>>>>or
>withouth
>>>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.ado net
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the
>>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb. data
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before 2005
>>>>>>>>>in 4
>ways
>>>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>>HTML
>code
>not
>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>>HTML
>code
>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005 and
>>>>>>>>>2005
>with
>>>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without
>>>>>>>>>project
>addition)
>>>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your
>>>>>>>>>newsgroup is
>mostly
>>>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.ph x.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 5 '06 #28
There is no one best way. There are a multitude of ways:

Pick up a VB.NET book - - I like "Programming Visual Basic .NET", by
Francesco Balena (MS Press)
http://msdn.microsoft.com
http://GotDotNet.com
http://ASP.net
Keep reading these newsgroups.
Download the .NET Framework SDK and check out the many examples.

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:uY*************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
What is the best way to learn VB.net?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uJ***************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>VBA is when you write VB 6.0 code and embed it within an Office document.
This is not applicable to ASP.NET.

ASP.NET is not a language, it is an architecture for client/server
programming. HTML/CSS/JavaScript are the basis of the client side code
and one of the .NET languages is needed for the server side code. This
is where the VB.NET comes in. You won't be able to do much server side
progamming without it.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:uz**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>Also, is there any connection between VBA and VB for asp.net, or are
they completely separate languages?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
Thank you.
What does the downloadable SDK do?
>
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl.. .
>>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a
>>page. FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is
>>the way to go.
>>
>Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started.
>Visual Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to
>decide which version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can
>pick the flavor right for you.
>>
>"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.ea rthlink.net...
>>>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my
>>>server (a
>>Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
>>password
>>capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
>>That's why
>>I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like
>>Front Page?
>>Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
>>purchase?
>>Thank you.
>>>
>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl ...
>>>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely
>>>required.
>>Your
>>>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your
>>>code
>>>manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET compiler
>>>(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your
>>>code
>>isn't
>>>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of
>>>time.
>>>>
>>>But without some kind of development environment, you won't get
>>>color
>>>coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features. What
>>>you
>>are
>>>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
>>>pages
>>>become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text editor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>>>news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas. earthlink.net...
>>Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You
>>say
>>Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and
>>then
>>published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected
>>to. So
>>why
>>do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
>>>
>>>
>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl.. .
>>1. What does the -i switch do?
>>>>
>>> install
>>>>
>>2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>>>>
>>> It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET
>>>user
>>>account.
>>>Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything
>>>that
>>>already
>>>exists.
>>>>
>>3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
>>learning
>>1.x?
>>>>
>>> That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or
>>>a 2005
>>>Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>>>>
>>4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command
>>for the
>>regiis?
>>>>
>>> Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
>>>Running a
>>>particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>>>>
>>5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
>>something?
>>>>
>>> No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
>>framework
>>>folder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl ...
>>>You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>>>
>>>From the start menu, choose Run.
>>>In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>>>
>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322\ asnet_regiis -i
>>>>
>>>This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET
>>>user
>>>account
>>>that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>message
>>>news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl. ..
>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>
>>>>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just
>>>>execute
>>that.
>>>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>>>>sequence
>>>>of
>>>>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
>>framework
>>>>beside Net 1.x
>>>>>
>>>>Cor
>>>>>
>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl ...
>>>>>How do I do that?
>>>>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.432 2. Would I just
>>>>>click on
>>that
>>>>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>>>
>>>>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>>>>using
>>>>>2.0?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for your help!
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gb l...
>>>>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running:
>>>>>>ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx. gbl...
>>>>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I
>>>>>>>see aspx
>>pages
>>>>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>>>>message
>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.ph x.gbl...
>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea
>>>>>>>>that you
>>are
>>>>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating
>>>>>>>>tool
>>>>>>>>available.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
>>clearly.
>>>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from
>>>>>>>>>the
>>very
>>>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create
>>>>>>>>>ASP
>>files
>>and
>>>>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET Framework.
>>>>>>>>>I
>>saved
>>it
>>>>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file published
>>>>>>>>>on my
>>>>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also
>>>>>>>>>there is
>>the
>>>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
>>try
>>>>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a
>>>>>>>>>blank
>>page.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the trouble
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote
>>>>>>>>>in
>>message
>>>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02. phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
>>javascript,
>>>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best
>>>>>>>>>>off in
>>the
>>>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than you
>>>>>>>>>>can
>>better
>>>>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages. vb (or csharp or vc
>>>>>>>>>>or
>>withouth
>>>>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.ad onet
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the
>>>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb .data
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before
>>>>>>>>>>2005 in 4
>>ways
>>>>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>>>HTML
>>code
>>not
>>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>>>HTML
>>code
>>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005
>>>>>>>>>>and 2005
>>with
>>>>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without
>>>>>>>>>>project
>>addition)
>>>>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your
>>>>>>>>>>newsgroup is
>>mostly
>>>>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.p hx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 6 '06 #29
Scott,

Re: the following statement

"I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a page.
FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is the way to
go."

Do you create the asp.net code in Visual Studio, and then import that page
into FrontPage to publish to your website?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:Oz**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
There is no one best way. There are a multitude of ways:

Pick up a VB.NET book - - I like "Programming Visual Basic .NET", by
Francesco Balena (MS Press)
http://msdn.microsoft.com
http://GotDotNet.com
http://ASP.net
Keep reading these newsgroups.
Download the .NET Framework SDK and check out the many examples.

"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:uY*************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>What is the best way to learn VB.net?

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uJ***************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>VBA is when you write VB 6.0 code and embed it within an Office
document. This is not applicable to ASP.NET.

ASP.NET is not a language, it is an architecture for client/server
programming. HTML/CSS/JavaScript are the basis of the client side code
and one of the .NET languages is needed for the server side code. This
is where the VB.NET comes in. You won't be able to do much server side
progamming without it.
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:uz**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
Also, is there any connection between VBA and VB for asp.net, or are
they completely separate languages?
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
It doesn't "do" anything. It is the Software Developer's Kit and it
contains lots of extra documentation and samples as well as a few
additional helpful tools that run at the command line.
>
>
"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl.. .
>Thank you.
>What does the downloadable SDK do?
>>
>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl. ..
>>>I have both. I use FP when I need to make client-side changes to a
>>>page. FP is very good and this. But for server-side code, VS.NET is
>>>the way to go.
>>>
>>Cor has provided a link to a good FREE tool to get you started.
>>Visual Studio does come in several "flavors". First, you need to
>>decide which version (2003 or 2005) you want/need and then you can
>>pick the flavor right for you.
>>>
>>"Somebody" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>>news:w5****************@newsread1.news.pas.e arthlink.net...
>>>>I have been using FrontPage to create web pages. But although my
>>>>server (a
>>>Windows server) supports FP extensions, it does not support the
>>>password
>>>capabilities in FP. I also need to have more interactive pages.
>>>That's why
>>>I started investigating asp.net. Is Visual Studio anything like
>>>Front Page?
>>>Also, there are so many Visual Studio products. Which one would I
>>>purchase?
>>>Thank you.
>>>>
>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gb l...
>>>>Well, technically no, Visual Studio .NET is not absolutely
>>>>required.
>>>Your
>>>>code can be created in any text editor and you can compile your
>>>>code
>>>>manually, at the command line, using the Visual Basic .NET
>>>>compiler
>>>>(vbc.exe). It doesn't sound like you have used this yet, so your
>>>>code
>>>isn't
>>>>going to run as efficeintly as it could by compiling it ahead of
>>>>time.
>>>>>
>>>>But without some kind of development environment, you won't get
>>>>color
>>>>coding, IntelliSense, debugging and other important features.
>>>>What you
>>>are
>>>>working on right now, sounds like it is simple web pages. As your
>>>>pages
>>>>become more complex, you'll grow tired of working in a text
>>>>editor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"Sandra Stewart" <sa******@earthlink.netwrote in message
>>>>news:eR****************@newsread1.news.pas .earthlink.net...
>>>Thank you. Your answers were very clear. Just one thing. You
>>>say
>>>Framework requres VS.NET. When I typed in code in notepad and
>>>then
>>>published the file to my website, it worked as it was expected
>>>to. So
>>>why
>>>do I need VS.NET ( I assume this is Visual Studio?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>news:uy**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl. ..
>>>1. What does the -i switch do?
>>>>>
>>>> install
>>>>>
>>>2. There is no way that this will harm a system file?
>>>>>
>>>> It will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET
>>>>user
>>>>account.
>>>>Whatever files it creates/overwrites will not damage anything
>>>>that
>>>>already
>>>>exists.
>>>>>
>>>3. Would it be better to download framework 2.0 instead of
>>>learning
>>>1.x?
>>>>>
>>>> That's up to you. The 2.0 Framework requires VS.NET 2005 or
>>>>a 2005
>>>>Express Edition. The 1.x Framework requires VS.NET 2003.
>>>>>
>>>4. If I download framework 2.0, do I follow the same command
>>>for the
>>>regiis?
>>>>>
>>>> Either framework is going to have an aspnet_regiis file.
>>>>Running a
>>>>particular one, registers that particular framework with IIS.
>>>>>
>>>5. If I download framework 2.0 later, do I have to undo
>>>something?
>>>>>
>>>> No, but you'll need to run aspnet_regiis -i that is in THAT
>>>framework
>>>>folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gb l...
>>>>You need to run it with the -i switch.
>>>>>
>>>>From the start menu, choose Run.
>>>>In the textbox, type (or copy):
>>>>>
>>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.4322 \asnet_regiis -i
>>>>>
>>>>This will install ASP.NET processing and create the ASPNET
>>>>user
>>>>account
>>>>that it used to process ASP.NET web pages.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>message
>>>>news:en**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl ...
>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>
>>>>>Scott is probably right you can try that therefore just
>>>>>execute
>>>that.
>>>>>(Although it should not be needed can it be because of the
>>>>>sequence
>>>>>of
>>>>>installation). You can without any problem add the Net 2.0
>>>framework
>>>>>beside Net 1.x
>>>>>>
>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>
>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>news:uY**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gb l...
>>>>>>How do I do that?
>>>>>>I have a file aspnet_regiis.exe in the path
>>>>>>C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.1.43 22. Would I just
>>>>>>click on
>>>that
>>>>>>file? Is there any danger it would damage a system file?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>What is the difference in framework 1. and framework 2.0?
>>>>>>If I register what I have, will I have to UNinstall before
>>>>>>using
>>>>>>2.0?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you for your help!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
>>>>>>news:uc**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.g bl...
>>>>>>>ASP net must be registered with IIS by running:
>>>>>>>ASPREGIIS -i
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is located in your framework/bin folder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comwrote in message
>>>>>>>news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx .gbl...
>>>>>>>>That is my point. If I can see asp pages, why can't I
>>>>>>>>see aspx
>>>pages
>>>>>>>>using IIS?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote in
>>>>>>>>message
>>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.p hx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The results of your asp page should be the same as your
>>>>>>>>>aspx.
>>>>>>>>>But why you use the framework 1.x while I get the idea
>>>>>>>>>that you
>>>are
>>>>>>>>>starting and can use 2.0.
>>>>>>>>>For that is as well a free ASPX Web page/site creating
>>>>>>>>>tool
>>>>>>>>>available.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>A good help site while using the
>>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>>news:e5**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.ph x.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>Cor,
>>>>>>>>>>You appear very knowledgeable and very able to explain
>>>clearly.
>>>>>>>>>>Can you help me? I am trying to learn asp.net. - from
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>beginning. I have IIS installed and am able to create
>>>>>>>>>>ASP
>>>files
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>see the results on my personal server.
>>>>>>>>>>I downloaded and installed the Microsoft.NET
>>>>>>>>>>Framework. I
>>>saved
>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>on my computer and then installed it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>But I cannot see the results of an aspx file on my
>>>>>>>>>>computer,
>>>>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>>>>>though I can see the results of the SAME file
>>>>>>>>>>published on my
>>>>>>>>>>website.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have an XP Professional and the path to the files is
>>>>>>>>>>c:\WINNT\Microsoft.net\framework v.1.14322. Also
>>>>>>>>>>there is
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>folder v1.0.3705.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I see the result of asp files I create at
>>>>>>>>>>http:/localhost/. I
>>>try
>>>>>>>>>>to do the same with the aspx files, but I only get a
>>>>>>>>>>blank
>>>page.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>How can I try out my files without going to the
>>>>>>>>>>trouble of
>>>>>>>>>>publishing to the website?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nlwrote
>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>message
>>>>>>>>>>news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02 .phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>Dancer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>It depends, if it is a kind of install, html, css,
>>>javascript,
>>>>>>>>>>>pluggins etc question than you are probably the best
>>>>>>>>>>>off in
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>newsgroup as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Is it clearly a Net program language question than
>>>>>>>>>>>you can
>>>better
>>>>>>>>>>>ask it in one of the language newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.v b (or csharp or vc
>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>withouth
>>>>>>>>>>>languages jsharp)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If it has to do with data (adonet) than
>>>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.a donet
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If it has to do with non adonet data than one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>data
>>>>>>>>>>>newsgroups as
>>>>>>>>>>>microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.v b.data
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Be aware that ASPNet can be used in version before
>>>>>>>>>>>2005 in 4
>>>ways
>>>>>>>>>>>and in version 2005 in 6 those are:
>>>>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>>>>HTML
>>>code
>>>not
>>>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>>>>Using the code in a kind of Scripting way inside the
>>>>>>>>>>>HTML
>>>code
>>>>>>>>>>>structured.
>>>>>>>>>>>With code behind not compiled (versions before 2005
>>>>>>>>>>>and 2005
>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>project addition)
>>>>>>>>>>>With codefile not compiled (version 2005 without
>>>>>>>>>>>project
>>>addition)
>>>>>>>>>>>Both last but than with compiled DLL's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>If you use it in the first two ways, than your
>>>>>>>>>>>newsgroup is
>>>mostly
>>>>>>>>>>>as Scott stated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I hope this helps
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Cor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>"dancer" <da****@microsoft.comschreef in bericht
>>>>>>>>>>>news:Ox**************@TK2MSFTNGP04. phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>Is this forum for ASP.NET questions? Or is there
>>>>>>>>>>>>another
>>>>>>>>>>>>forum
>>>>>>>>>>>>for that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>




Jul 8 '06 #30
Do you create the asp.net code in Visual Studio, and then import that page
into FrontPage to publish to your website?
You can publish with either tool. I originally created my sites as FP sites
and published them that way, but then (when I wanted to add .NET
functionality), I created a new ASP.NET project (locally) and imported my
existing FP stuff into it.

When I need to make a client-side change, I open the site (local) with FP
and make the change(es). I then use FP to simply upload the new or changed
content.

When I need to make a server-side change, I open the site (local) with
VS.NET and make the change(es). I then recompile and use VS.NET to publish
the new code.

-Scott
Jul 8 '06 #31
Scott,

I am confused as to how you can use both to publish to the same site. I
have to publish (i.e. make changes) to my FP website using FP extensions. I
cannot FTP pages. My website is on a Windows server.

Thanks.

"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:ut**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Do you create the asp.net code in Visual Studio, and then import that
page
into FrontPage to publish to your website?

You can publish with either tool. I originally created my sites as FP
sites
and published them that way, but then (when I wanted to add .NET
functionality), I created a new ASP.NET project (locally) and imported my
existing FP stuff into it.

When I need to make a client-side change, I open the site (local) with FP
and make the change(es). I then use FP to simply upload the new or
changed
content.

When I need to make a server-side change, I open the site (local) with
VS.NET and make the change(es). I then recompile and use VS.NET to
publish
the new code.

-Scott


Jul 9 '06 #32
Also,
Have they come up with a patch in Visual Web Develop Express to delete
projects? I have too much wasted disk space with experimental projects I
don't want. I do not want to mess with my register.

Thanks.
"Scott M." <s-***@nospam.nospamwrote in message
news:ut**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Do you create the asp.net code in Visual Studio, and then import that
page
into FrontPage to publish to your website?

You can publish with either tool. I originally created my sites as FP
sites
and published them that way, but then (when I wanted to add .NET
functionality), I created a new ASP.NET project (locally) and imported my
existing FP stuff into it.

When I need to make a client-side change, I open the site (local) with FP
and make the change(es). I then use FP to simply upload the new or
changed
content.

When I need to make a server-side change, I open the site (local) with
VS.NET and make the change(es). I then recompile and use VS.NET to
publish
the new code.

-Scott


Jul 9 '06 #33

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