Webbrowser control help

[CenturionX]

Hello everybody,

I'm using a webcontrol that gives me two probles:

1. I try to select an item in an html "select-one" control, i modify
the value but it does nothing.
When i navigate normally i pick the item and then it updates the
form. How i can select an
item getting the same behavior, using the webbrowser?
(http://www.freesms.net/freesms.aspx)

2. In other page, i insert the user and password, i click submit and
that's all. When i use the
webbrowser, i get an security alert message. I use:
WebBrowser1.Silent = True and nothing
happens. What to do to avoid this message???

Thanks for your help.

[lyle fairfield]

On May 20, 3:04*pm, CenturionX <[e-mail]:

Hello everybody,

I'm using a webcontrol that gives me two probles:

1. I try to select an item in an html "select-one" control, i modify
the value but it does nothing.
* * When i navigate normally i pick the item and then it updates the
form. *How i can select an
* * item getting the same behavior, using the webbrowser?
* * (http://www.freesms.net/freesms.aspx)

2. In other page, i insert the user and password, i click submit and
that's all. *When i use the
* * webbrowser, i get an security alert message. *I use:
WebBrowser1.Silent = True and nothing
* * happens. *What to do to avoid this message???

Stop trying to cheat?

[CenturionX]

It's not about cheating.
It's about integrating a free tool to automate some repetitive tasks
for the people who works with me.

Any serious help???

[lyle fairfield]

On May 21, 9:09*am, CenturionX <[e-mail]:

It's not about cheating.
It's about integrating a free tool to automate some repetitive tasks
for the people who works with me.

Any serious help???

If someone automates this "free tool" and sends off thirty-thousand
messages a day how long will it be free? When I want to use it to send
one message will it be too busy?

I'm posting using Google groups. And for the last couple of days, I
have had to:
"For verification purposes please type the characters you see in the
picture below or the numbers you hear by clicking the accessibility
icon."

I don't know why Google instituted this verification procedure. I
doubt that it's because of my use or the thousands of users who use
Google groups in the way I do. I suspect it's about those persons who
have tried to use the tool to their own advantage regardless of the
impact that will have on others. I don't like this and don't think of
it as clever. I think of it as selfish, manipulative and unethical,
and a resort of those who are too stupid or lazy to create their own
powerful applications.

[The Frog]

The OP could always post their phone number and country here so we can
SMS them the code to do it one line at a time :-)

[CenturionX]

Nice speech. But what happens if it’s not for sending hundred or
millions of text by day for a spamming or commercial company but for a
non-profit organization that tries to contact their activists (about
four time by week), working with a very low budget?
The spammers have good tools to do this trash-job. They don’t need to
automate tasks using MS Access 2002 and the webbrowser control. And
it’s sure they don’t need posting for help. (It requires a little
deductive capacity, my dear Watson)
So, at this point we can conclude that the speech could be right but
in this case is bad addressed and then the facial expression changes
to a stupid one.

So, again, any serious help???

[lyle fairfield]

Well, that changes everything!

Here you were just going to cheat and misuse with the very best
intentions, and I doubted you.

I'm so ashamed.

On May 22, 8:55*am, CenturionX <[e-mail]:

Nice speech. *But what happens if it’s not for sending hundred or
millions of text by day for a spamming or commercial company but for a
non-profit organization that tries to contact their activists (about
four time by week), working with a very low budget?

[The Frog]

Ok Ok Ok,

If it were me trying to do such a thing for 'noble' purposes I would
start by looking at the code for the webpage itself. I already did and
it is in Javascript (for the most part). This means that it is most
likely running just like a simple program itself. If you can figure
out what the input parameters are for the javascript, then where /
what it sends them to (and how), you could in theory simply send the
appropriate data packet(s) directly to the same target the javascript
does and bypass the whole webpage thing completely.

From the brief look I had at the code behind the page, it looks like
there is simply some sort of service running on a machine somewhere
that this webpage / javascript feeds data to in a structured way.
Figure out the structure and the destination and you've got it
basically. (To see the code behind the page in IE simply click View -
Source).

Beyond that this is an Access newsgroup, so figuring out the webpage
goes beyond the scope of this group. If you put in the groundwork and
then have some questions that relate to Access itself then maybe we
can help further.

Cheers and Death to Spammers

The Frog

[lyle fairfield]

IPIPI (http://www.ipipi.com/), a reputable international SMS provider
that I have used for four or five years, charges between 10 and 15
cents (US) per message and provides utilities and methods to help
manage SMS. IMO, IPIPI is great.
At four messages a week to the activists, this is unlikely to be
expensive, unless there are many activists.
One thing I can't do with IPIPI, which I could do if I broke the java-
script as you describe, is to send a particular cell phone a thousand
SMS messages a day. This could be a pretty effective means of
harassment.
I could also advertise "Free SMS is included with all FFDBA
applications."
And I could sell SMS messaging at eight cents a message, undercutting
IPIPI, and other SMS message providers, with a pretty good margin of
100% (minus a little for network costs etc.
Of course, the OP is working for a on-profit organization and that
makes everything OK.Let me see exactly what he says about that:
"But what happens if it’s not for sending hundred or
millions of text by day for a spamming or commercial company but for
a
non-profit organization that tries to contact their activists (about
four time by week), working with a very low budget?"
Oh, he didn't actually say that's what he was doing, did he?

And, again, I have to enter "flane" in the verificatin box to post
this. Well, it's all right. it's probably just because someone
automated the process of posting messages with Google Groups for a non-
profit organization.


On May 23, 4:56*am, The Frog <[e-mail]:

Ok Ok Ok,

If it were me trying to do such a thing for 'noble' purposes I would
start by looking at the code for the webpage itself. I already did and
it is in Javascript (for the most part). This means that it is most
likely running just like a simple program itself. If you can figure
out what the input parameters are for the javascript, then where /
what it sends them to (and how), you could in theory simply send the
appropriate data packet(s) directly to the same target the javascript
does and bypass the whole webpage thing completely.

From the brief look I had at the code behind the page, it looks like
there is simply some sort of service running on a machine somewhere
that this webpage / javascript feeds data to in a structured way.
Figure out the structure and the destination and you've got it
basically. (To see the code behind the page in IE simply click View -
Source).

Beyond that this is an Access newsgroup, so figuring out the webpage
goes beyond the scope of this group. If you put in the groundwork and
then have some questions that relate to Access itself then maybe we
can help further.

Cheers and Death to Spammers

The Frog

[The Frog]

Yeah, the OP does seem a little suspect in the requirement, but also
not out of the realms of possibility for legitimate purposes. In the
end I decided it was better to be the good guy rather than the bad one
here, as the OP will be able to find out the necessary information
from somewhere anyway.

I wonder what the terms and conditions for the usage on the site are.
I should go and have a look. I have never used a service like this
before, dont really have a need for it in my company - they use a push
based infrastructure for blackberries. I just pity the people getting
emails and sms's all day and night. Because it is delivered the sender
expects a response too! Poor bastards.

Anyhoo, as usual, death to spammers, and have a great weekend :-)

The Frog

[CenturionX]

Well, thanks anyway.
I feel so damned and spammer thanks to another's frustrations.

I never imagined how polemic it could be the webbrowser control
when it’s more than just displaying websites.
But, I understand you. I heat too receiving spam in mail and
seeing commercial posting in the forums. But

At least it’s has been productive. I translated the messages to
the two women I use to help, they were concerned about the treatment
I
received, So I took the time to explain what the spam is, and why it’s
not tolerable. They know more now about the internet world.

So, the item is buried. Let’s continue helping and asking for help.

Bye guys.

[lyle fairfield]

Supposing someone had asked:
"How can I send messages to field reps's cell phones a few times a
week, as part of my Access application?"

I might have answered:

Most cell phone service providers allow direct e-mail sending to their
clients. For instance, here in Canada one has only to send e-mail to
"my 10-digit phone nu****@pcs.rogers.com" to have the message pop-up
(after a check - see below) on my cell.

Sending E-Mail in Access can be easily automated with CDO.

Sending E-Mail, unless it is in huge numbers,is unlikely to slow down
or crash the smtp site.

As I mentioned, Rogers checks with me to see if I really want to get e-
mail from whomever, before it downloads the message. At least
minimally, the opportunity for spam is diminished.

On May 23, 12:19*pm, CenturionX <[e-mail]:

Well, thanks anyway.
I feel so damned and spammer thanks to another's frustrations.

I never imagined how polemic it could be the webbrowser control
when it’s more than just displaying websites.
But, I understand you. I heat too receiving spam in mail and
seeing commercial posting in the forums. *But

At least it’s has been productive. *I translated the messages to
the two women I use to help, they were concerned about the treatment
I
received, So I took the time to explain what the spam is, and why it’s
not tolerable. They know more now about the internet world.

So, the item is buried. *Let’s continue helping and asking for help.

Bye guys.

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

lyle fairfield <ly************@gmail.comwrote:

>Supposing someone had asked:
"How can I send messages to field reps's cell phones a few times a
week, as part of my Access application?"

I might have answered:

Most cell phone service providers allow direct e-mail sending to their
clients. For instance, here in Canada one has only to send e-mail to
"my 10-digit phone nu****@pcs.rogers.com" to have the message pop-up
(after a check - see below) on my cell.

This, of course, assumes you know the cell phone vendor.

>As I mentioned, Rogers checks with me to see if I really want to get e-
mail from whomever, before it downloads the message.

How do they do that?

Tony
--
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[lyle fairfield]

As the original poster described his use, (to contact a non-profit
organization's activists), it's very likely that he could find out
this information. I have done it for virtually every carrier in the
United States and Canada for an application that reminded contact lens
wearers to change their (monthly) lenses. It wasn't very difficult.

Rogers sends a message saying, "John Doe has sent you an e-mail
message. Reply 'Read' to receive". If I don't reply "Read" I never see
the message, nor do I hear of it again. And I can set my phone to
refuse e-mail messages from John Doe.

On May 26, 3:36*pm, "Tony Toews [MVP]" <[e-mail]:

lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

Supposing someone had asked:
"How can I send messages to field reps's cell phones a few times a
week, as part of my Access application?"

I might have answered:

Most cell phone service providers allow direct e-mail sending to their
clients. For instance, here in Canada one has only to send e-mail to
"my 10-digit phone [e-mail]" to have the message pop-up
(after a check - see below) on my cell.

This, of course, assumes you know the cell phone vendor.

As I mentioned, Rogers checks with me to see if I really want to get e-
mail from whomever, before it downloads the message.

How do they do that?

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
* *Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
* *Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems athttp://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
* *Tony's Microsoft Access Blog -http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/

[The Frog]

Pretty sweet dude :-) Great idea.

The Frog

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

lyle fairfield <ly************@gmail.comwrote:

>Rogers sends a message saying, "John Doe has sent you an e-mail
message. Reply 'Read' to receive". If I don't reply "Read" I never see
the message, nor do I hear of it again. And I can set my phone to
refuse e-mail messages from John Doe.

Trouble is if that's a spam email which uses random email addresses then that won't
help.

Tony
--
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Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
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[lyle fairfield]

My carrier, Rogers, has never delivered or offered to deliver spam e-
mail to my cellphone.

On May 31, 8:45*pm, "Tony Toews [MVP]" <[e-mail]:

Trouble is if that's a spam email which uses random email addresses then that won't
help.

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

lyle fairfield <ly************@gmail.comwrote:

>My carrier, Rogers, has never delivered or offered to deliver spam e-
mail to my cellphone.

Thanks, good to know. I'm looking around for a new cell phone and considering
changing providers. Trouble is Rogers doesn't have as good coverage in rural Canada
as Bell and others.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
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read the entire thread of messages.
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[Larry Linson]

"lyle fairfield" <ly************@gmail.comwrote

My carrier, Rogers, has never delivered or offered to
deliver spam e-mail to my cellphone.

Lyle, if that means you are going through "spam withdrawal", I suspect I
have some I can spare. <GRIN>