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Hello,
I was VERY blessed with a Christmas gift of visual studio .net from a
man I hardly know who had heard of my plans of software developement.
So I am probably the only person in the world who actualy has this
great IDE and don't even know vb.net (or c sharp etc.).
I have some prior exposure to simple scripting language such as
javascript and I understand data types etc. (basic programming
concepts and procedures) but I don't have any high level languages
under my belt at all.

I am posting hopeing someone can help me find good info on the subject
of visual basic .net. I have found allot of good stuff in the msdn
library wich is a great resource but more of a reference than a guide
or tutorial. I also have downloaded and nearly completed the windows
programming section of Microsoft's Visual Studio .net Resource Kit
wich is also a great resource but is geared more toward learning the
IDE than the codeing.

I have searched for guides and tutorials on vb.net and can't find
anything (found allot of advertiseing books and pay courses wich i
can't afford)
There are however allot of good guides on vb6 but I have read that
there are allot of changes between vb6 and .net so I realy don't feal
like it would be good to learn 6 just to have to learn the changes and
further confuse myself (someone who confuses easily :)

If anyone can point me to a good vb .net course (free) that focuses on
the language and actual code as aposed to the IDE I would greatly
apriciate it.
Or even a list of the most common classes etc and some examples would
be great, I have msdn installed wich of course lists all classes but
WOW there are allot and they aren't organized in a "commonly used"
scheme so I have just been reading through them and trying to decide
for myself wich are worth beating into my memory and playing with
creating simple programs useing them.

Thank You,
Harley
Nov 20 '05 #1
10 2215
Go to:

http://msdn.microsoft.com
"Harley" <ju*****@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:d6******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
Hello,
I was VERY blessed with a Christmas gift of visual studio .net from a
man I hardly know who had heard of my plans of software developement.
So I am probably the only person in the world who actualy has this
great IDE and don't even know vb.net (or c sharp etc.).
I have some prior exposure to simple scripting language such as
javascript and I understand data types etc. (basic programming
concepts and procedures) but I don't have any high level languages
under my belt at all.

I am posting hopeing someone can help me find good info on the subject
of visual basic .net. I have found allot of good stuff in the msdn
library wich is a great resource but more of a reference than a guide
or tutorial. I also have downloaded and nearly completed the windows
programming section of Microsoft's Visual Studio .net Resource Kit
wich is also a great resource but is geared more toward learning the
IDE than the codeing.

I have searched for guides and tutorials on vb.net and can't find
anything (found allot of advertiseing books and pay courses wich i
can't afford)
There are however allot of good guides on vb6 but I have read that
there are allot of changes between vb6 and .net so I realy don't feal
like it would be good to learn 6 just to have to learn the changes and
further confuse myself (someone who confuses easily :)

If anyone can point me to a good vb .net course (free) that focuses on
the language and actual code as aposed to the IDE I would greatly
apriciate it.
Or even a list of the most common classes etc and some examples would
be great, I have msdn installed wich of course lists all classes but
WOW there are allot and they aren't organized in a "commonly used"
scheme so I have just been reading through them and trying to decide
for myself wich are worth beating into my memory and playing with
creating simple programs useing them.

Thank You,
Harley

Nov 20 '05 #2
"Harley" <ju*****@yahoo. com> wrote...
I have some prior exposure to simple scripting language such as
javascript and I understand data types etc. (basic programming
concepts and procedures) but I don't have any high level languages
under my belt at all.


Well you certainly were lucky... and my suggestion may seem a bit odd
(somebody will surely comment about it) but consider reading a book by Bruce
Eckels. It's called "Thinking in Java" and I can almost hear you gasp
"what????" There are a couple of reasons. First .Net is surprisingly like
Java (particularly C#) but fundamentally so is VB.Net. Second, Bruce is an
excellent writer. And third you can download the book for free.

http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/

You can also purchase the book if you like. Bruce also has a C# book but
that one is currently not available as a free download. It may be available
in bookstores however.

You can certainly choose a VB.Net book and depending upon how you learn that
might be best but if you can separate concepts from "verbatim syntax" then
you owe it to at least download the thing and skim through it. The OOP
concepts are identical, most of the language features are identical. After
reading that book you can choose a VB.Net book and find yourself saying "oh,
I know that" most of the time. .Net specific features (including specific
syntax) would be your focus rather than the OOP fundamentals.

Java is going to use curly braces, C# uses curly braces, VB.Net does not.
Java uses semi-colons, C# uses semi-colons, VB.Net does not. If declaring a
variable by prefacing it with a datatype rather than using the "As" keyword
is going to throw you for a loop you might have to stick to just VB.Net but
again I suggest there is no downside to skimming the book. You should be
able to translate:

int test = 5;
into
dim test as integer = 5

without much trouble. In any case you aren't reading the book to learn Java
syntax, you aren't going to key in any examples you're simply understanding
concepts. A good book on SmallTalk could do that... but in this case it
happens to be a good book on Java.

Tom
Nov 20 '05 #3
Cor
Hi Harley

In my eyes beside msdn.microsoft. com the best resource for VB.net

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/vbrkit/default.aspx

And if you have problems installing it

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/vbr...q/#installvdir

I hope this helps a little bit?

Cor
Nov 20 '05 #4
Hi,

VBTV is a good resource.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbtv/

Here is a link to some free training untested.
http://www.vtmag.com/

Ken
-----------------
"Harley" <ju*****@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:d6******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
Hello,
I was VERY blessed with a Christmas gift of visual studio .net from a
man I hardly know who had heard of my plans of software developement.
So I am probably the only person in the world who actualy has this
great IDE and don't even know vb.net (or c sharp etc.).
I have some prior exposure to simple scripting language such as
javascript and I understand data types etc. (basic programming
concepts and procedures) but I don't have any high level languages
under my belt at all.

I am posting hopeing someone can help me find good info on the subject
of visual basic .net. I have found allot of good stuff in the msdn
library wich is a great resource but more of a reference than a guide
or tutorial. I also have downloaded and nearly completed the windows
programming section of Microsoft's Visual Studio .net Resource Kit
wich is also a great resource but is geared more toward learning the
IDE than the codeing.

I have searched for guides and tutorials on vb.net and can't find
anything (found allot of advertiseing books and pay courses wich i
can't afford)
There are however allot of good guides on vb6 but I have read that
there are allot of changes between vb6 and .net so I realy don't feal
like it would be good to learn 6 just to have to learn the changes and
further confuse myself (someone who confuses easily :)

If anyone can point me to a good vb .net course (free) that focuses on
the language and actual code as aposed to the IDE I would greatly
apriciate it.
Or even a list of the most common classes etc and some examples would
be great, I have msdn installed wich of course lists all classes but
WOW there are allot and they aren't organized in a "commonly used"
scheme so I have just been reading through them and trying to decide
for myself wich are worth beating into my memory and playing with
creating simple programs useing them.

Thank You,
Harley

Nov 20 '05 #5
* "CHAN MING MAN" <ch****@tm.net. my> scripsit:
Go to:

http://msdn.microsoft.com


ROFL

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
Nov 20 '05 #6
* "Cor" <no*@non.com> scripsit:
In my eyes beside msdn.microsoft. com the best resource for VB.net

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/vbrkit/default.aspx

And if you have problems installing it

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/vbr...q/#installvdir


The OP mentioned that he already had a look at that...

:-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
Nov 20 '05 #7
Cor
LOL,

Do you have time today to read.

But not that bad, I find it the best and that I told also.

Cor
Nov 20 '05 #8
* "Cor" <no*@non.com> scripsit:
LOL,

Do you have time today to read.
I have always time to read:

| I also have downloaded and nearly completed the windows
| programming section of Microsoft's Visual Studio .net Resource Kit
| wich is also a great resource but is geared more toward learning the
| IDE than the codeing.
But not that bad, I find it the best and that I told also.


ACK.

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
Nov 20 '05 #9

"Harley" <ju*****@yahoo. com> wrote in message
news:d6******** *************** ***@posting.goo gle.com...
Hello,
I was VERY blessed with a Christmas gift of visual studio .net from a
man I hardly know who had heard of my plans of software developement.
So I am probably the only person in the world who actualy has this
great IDE and don't even know vb.net (or c sharp etc.).
I have some prior exposure to simple scripting language such as
javascript and I understand data types etc. (basic programming
concepts and procedures) but I don't have any high level languages
under my belt at all.

I am posting hopeing someone can help me find good info on the subject
of visual basic .net. I have found allot of good stuff in the msdn
library wich is a great resource but more of a reference than a guide
or tutorial. I also have downloaded and nearly completed the windows
programming section of Microsoft's Visual Studio .net Resource Kit
wich is also a great resource but is geared more toward learning the
IDE than the codeing.

I have searched for guides and tutorials on vb.net and can't find
anything (found allot of advertiseing books and pay courses wich i
can't afford)
There are however allot of good guides on vb6 but I have read that
there are allot of changes between vb6 and .net so I realy don't feal
like it would be good to learn 6 just to have to learn the changes and
further confuse myself (someone who confuses easily :)

If anyone can point me to a good vb .net course (free) that focuses on
the language and actual code as aposed to the IDE I would greatly
apriciate it.
Or even a list of the most common classes etc and some examples would
be great, I have msdn installed wich of course lists all classes but
WOW there are allot and they aren't organized in a "commonly used"
scheme so I have just been reading through them and trying to decide
for myself wich are worth beating into my memory and playing with
creating simple programs useing them.

Thank You,
Harley


Hello, Harley!
I have a couple of suggestions for you in the book area. There are a lot of
excellent web sites which provide information, but for a complete beginner,
they can be a bit overwhelming :-)
The Microsoft Press "Step By Step" series might be beneficial. You can find
a "Step By Step" book for Visual Basic, C# and for C++.
Titles are: "Microsoft Visual Basic .NET Step By Step", "Microsoft Visual C#
..NET Step By Step" and "Microsoft Visual C++ .NET Step By Step"

http://www.microsoft.com/learning/bo...ed/default.asp

If you decide you need a complete beginner's tutorial, textbooks might be
what you need. Follow the link below to some excellent tutorial style
textbooks that assume no prior knowledge of programming or of the IDE:

http://www.deitel.com/books/index.html

Look at the "Simply" series. There are (currently) books for Visual Basic
and C#, with C++ on the horizon.

Hope this helps,

--
Peter [MVP Academic]
Nov 20 '05 #10

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