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Saved .rtf Help File corrupt after reformatting system

After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before doing a
final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling an rtf
file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly with no
notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to the
reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going on
here ? Please help. Thanks.

HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
Resolving keywords...
Adding bitmaps...
1 Topic
37 Jumps
1 Keyword
2 Bitmaps
Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
Bitmaps: 16 bytes
Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
2 notes, 38 warnings
Jul 17 '05 #1
21 6312
I'd like to know where/how you received "Microsoft's admonition to reformat
my system before doing a
final compilation of my app"?

--
Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before doing a
: final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling an
rtf
: file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
: included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly with
no
: notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to the
: reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
: verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going on
: here ? Please help. Thanks.
:
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
: Resolving keywords...
: Adding bitmaps...
: 1 Topic
: 37 Jumps
: 1 Keyword
: 2 Bitmaps
:
:
: Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
: Bitmaps: 16 bytes
: Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
: 2 notes, 38 warnings
:
:

Jul 17 '05 #2
From a lecture given by the director (some title like that anyway) of visual
basic deveopment on Microsofts VB Support website.

"Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:g_********************@rogers.com...
I'd like to know where/how you received "Microsoft's admonition to
reformat
my system before doing a
final compilation of my app"?

--
Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before doing
a
: final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling an
rtf
: file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
: included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly with
no
: notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to the
: reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box
to
: verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going
on
: here ? Please help. Thanks.
:
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
: HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
: Resolving keywords...
: Adding bitmaps...
: 1 Topic
: 37 Jumps
: 1 Keyword
: 2 Bitmaps
:
:
: Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
: Bitmaps: 16 bytes
: Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
: 2 notes, 38 warnings
:
:

Jul 17 '05 #3
Weird. I know that it's common knowledge that it is best to compile an app
on a relatively clean system using the minimum os your app should support,
but I've never seen or heard any recommendation that one should reformat
their entire system before compiling a release version of an app!

--
Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:pc*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: From a lecture given by the director (some title like that anyway) of
visual
: basic deveopment on Microsofts VB Support website.
:
: "Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
: news:g_********************@rogers.com...
: > I'd like to know where/how you received "Microsoft's admonition to
: > reformat
: > my system before doing a
: > final compilation of my app"?
: >
: > --
: >
: >
: > Randy Birch
: > MS MVP Visual Basic
: > http://vbnet.mvps.org/
: >
: >
: > "Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before
doing
: > a
: > : final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling
an
: > rtf
: > : file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
: > : included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly
with
: > no
: > : notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to
the
: > : reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box
: > to
: > : verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is
going
: > on
: > : here ? Please help. Thanks.
: > :
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
: > : Resolving keywords...
: > : Adding bitmaps...
: > : 1 Topic
: > : 37 Jumps
: > : 1 Keyword
: > : 2 Bitmaps
: > :
: > :
: > : Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
: > : Bitmaps: 16 bytes
: > : Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
: > : 2 notes, 38 warnings
: > :
: > :
: >
:
:

Jul 17 '05 #4
Well ya got me but he stated several times "I can't emphasize too strongly
the importance of reformatting your system to ensure a clean app" not
exactly word for word, but that's the gist of it.. I heard it over a year
ago. I think it was called a netmmeeting - an audio file was played.

"Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:2r********************@rogers.com...
Weird. I know that it's common knowledge that it is best to compile an app
on a relatively clean system using the minimum os your app should support,
but I've never seen or heard any recommendation that one should reformat
their entire system before compiling a release version of an app!

--
Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:pc*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: From a lecture given by the director (some title like that anyway) of
visual
: basic deveopment on Microsofts VB Support website.
:
: "Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
: news:g_********************@rogers.com...
: > I'd like to know where/how you received "Microsoft's admonition to
: > reformat
: > my system before doing a
: > final compilation of my app"?
: >
: > --
: >
: >
: > Randy Birch
: > MS MVP Visual Basic
: > http://vbnet.mvps.org/
: >
: >
: > "Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before
doing
: > a
: > : final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon
compiling
an
: > rtf
: > : file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe
that's
: > : included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly
with
: > no
: > : notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to
the
: > : reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the
box
: > to
: > : verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is
going
: > on
: > : here ? Please help. Thanks.
: > :
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
: > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
: > : Resolving keywords...
: > : Adding bitmaps...
: > : 1 Topic
: > : 37 Jumps
: > : 1 Keyword
: > : 2 Bitmaps
: > :
: > :
: > : Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
: > : Bitmaps: 16 bytes
: > : Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
: > : 2 notes, 38 warnings
: > :
: > :
: >
:
:

Jul 17 '05 #5
I'm wondering if that reference was to reformatting when a beta version of
an app or os was installed, to ensure for production that no beta references
or components were included. As I said, I've never heard of a blanket
recommendation to reformat just for a clean os before a final compile.

--
Randy Birch
MS MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:it*****************@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: Well ya got me but he stated several times "I can't emphasize too strongly
: the importance of reformatting your system to ensure a clean app" not
: exactly word for word, but that's the gist of it.. I heard it over a year
: ago. I think it was called a netmmeeting - an audio file was played.
:
: "Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
: news:2r********************@rogers.com...
: > Weird. I know that it's common knowledge that it is best to compile an
app
: > on a relatively clean system using the minimum os your app should
support,
: > but I've never seen or heard any recommendation that one should reformat
: > their entire system before compiling a release version of an app!
: >
: > --
: >
: >
: > Randy Birch
: > MS MVP Visual Basic
: > http://vbnet.mvps.org/
: >
: >
: > "Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > news:pc*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : From a lecture given by the director (some title like that anyway) of
: > visual
: > : basic deveopment on Microsofts VB Support website.
: > :
: > : "Randy Birch" <rg************@mvps.org> wrote in message
: > : news:g_********************@rogers.com...
: > : > I'd like to know where/how you received "Microsoft's admonition to
: > : > reformat
: > : > my system before doing a
: > : > final compilation of my app"?
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > Randy Birch
: > : > MS MVP Visual Basic
: > : > http://vbnet.mvps.org/
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > "Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
: > : > news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
: > : > : After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before
: > doing
: > : > a
: > : > : final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon
: > compiling
: > an
: > : > rtf
: > : > : file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe
: > that's
: > : > : included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled
perfectly
: > with
: > : > no
: > : > : notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior
to
: > the
: > : > : reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the
: > box
: > : > to
: > : > : verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is
: > going
: > : > on
: > : > : here ? Please help. Thanks.
: > : > :
: > : > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
: > : > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
: > : > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
: > : > : HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
: > : > : 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
: > : > : Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
: > : > : Resolving keywords...
: > : > : Adding bitmaps...
: > : > : 1 Topic
: > : > : 37 Jumps
: > : > : 1 Keyword
: > : > : 2 Bitmaps
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : > : Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
: > : > : Bitmaps: 16 bytes
: > : > : Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
: > : > : 2 notes, 38 warnings
: > : > :
: > : > :
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
:
:

Jul 17 '05 #6

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
| After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before
doing a
| final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling
an rtf
| file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
| included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly
with no
| notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to
the
| reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box
to
| verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is
going on
| here ? Please help. Thanks.
|
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
| Resolving keywords...
| Adding bitmaps...
| 1 Topic
| 37 Jumps
| 1 Keyword
| 2 Bitmaps
|
|

It's been a while since I did a Help file in Help Workshop, but I seem
to remember making an ID mapping file, a .txt file I think, that
assigned each TopicID, such IDH_2001 or IDH_INSTALLATION, to a numeric
value. The format was something like
IDH_2001 = 2001
IDH_INSTALLATION = 2002
etc.

So maybe you are just missing the mapping file. You can probably
recreate one if you don't have it.

PS: I agree with Randy, there is no reason to reformat a drive just to
do a release. Just check the version of every file listed in references,
etc. and in any setup program, so your program can run on Win98 or
whatever OS version you need to support.
Jul 17 '05 #7

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going on
here ? Please help. Thanks.


When you copy things from CD usually it remains write protected. Check to
make sure the index file is not marked write protected.
Jul 17 '05 #8
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in the
past. What is the index file ?

"Raoul Watson" <Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
news:nPkSd.39346$t46.29745@trndny04...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going
on
here ? Please help. Thanks.


When you copy things from CD usually it remains write protected. Check to
make sure the index file is not marked write protected.

Jul 17 '05 #9
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in the
past. What is the index file ?

"Raoul Watson" <Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
news:nPkSd.39346$t46.29745@trndny04...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going
on
here ? Please help. Thanks.


When you copy things from CD usually it remains write protected. Check to
make sure the index file is not marked write protected.

Jul 17 '05 #10
I didn't create a mapping file. I just used the .rtf file format method
described in visual Basic 6 Black Book. Using this method, I previously
created a 100% error free help file from an 80 MB word file. If some mapping
file was created by hcw.exe it was transparent to me. As a test, I created a
simple help file with 2 jump tags last night and it was 100 % error free and
no notes or warnings. Worked exactly as expected. Did hcw.exe create some
kind of mapping file and put it in some obscure place on the help file I
created prior to reformatting my system ? By the way, the help file itself
created before reformatting the system worked perfectly after copying from
my CD onto the reformatted system. The thing is, I wanted to add a few
things to it.

"Steve Gerrard" <my********@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KM********************@comcast.com...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
| After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before
doing a
| final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling
an rtf
| file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
| included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly
with no
| notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to
the
| reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box
to
| verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is
going on
| here ? Please help. Thanks.
|
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
| Resolving keywords...
| Adding bitmaps...
| 1 Topic
| 37 Jumps
| 1 Keyword
| 2 Bitmaps
|
|

It's been a while since I did a Help file in Help Workshop, but I seem
to remember making an ID mapping file, a .txt file I think, that
assigned each TopicID, such IDH_2001 or IDH_INSTALLATION, to a numeric
value. The format was something like
IDH_2001 = 2001
IDH_INSTALLATION = 2002
etc.

So maybe you are just missing the mapping file. You can probably
recreate one if you don't have it.

PS: I agree with Randy, there is no reason to reformat a drive just to
do a release. Just check the version of every file listed in references,
etc. and in any setup program, so your program can run on Win98 or
whatever OS version you need to support.

Jul 17 '05 #11
I didn't create a mapping file. I just used the .rtf file format method
described in visual Basic 6 Black Book. Using this method, I previously
created a 100% error free help file from an 80 MB word file. If some mapping
file was created by hcw.exe it was transparent to me. As a test, I created a
simple help file with 2 jump tags last night and it was 100 % error free and
no notes or warnings. Worked exactly as expected. Did hcw.exe create some
kind of mapping file and put it in some obscure place on the help file I
created prior to reformatting my system ? By the way, the help file itself
created before reformatting the system worked perfectly after copying from
my CD onto the reformatted system. The thing is, I wanted to add a few
things to it.

"Steve Gerrard" <my********@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KM********************@comcast.com...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
| After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before
doing a
| final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling
an rtf
| file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
| included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly
with no
| notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to
the
| reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box
to
| verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is
going on
| here ? Please help. Thanks.
|
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
| HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
| 2-05-05\Help.rtf :
| Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
| Resolving keywords...
| Adding bitmaps...
| 1 Topic
| 37 Jumps
| 1 Keyword
| 2 Bitmaps
|
|

It's been a while since I did a Help file in Help Workshop, but I seem
to remember making an ID mapping file, a .txt file I think, that
assigned each TopicID, such IDH_2001 or IDH_INSTALLATION, to a numeric
value. The format was something like
IDH_2001 = 2001
IDH_INSTALLATION = 2002
etc.

So maybe you are just missing the mapping file. You can probably
recreate one if you don't have it.

PS: I agree with Randy, there is no reason to reformat a drive just to
do a release. Just check the version of every file listed in references,
etc. and in any setup program, so your program can run on Win98 or
whatever OS version you need to support.

Jul 17 '05 #12

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:25*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in the
past. What is the index file ?


I just read from your reply to Dave that you are not using an index /
mapping and I also read your help file works fine when copied from a CD.

I have no idea except for the hcw being a different version (?)
Jul 17 '05 #13

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in the
past. What is the index file ?


I just read from your reply to Dave that you are not using an index /
mapping and I also read your help file works fine when copied from a CD.

I have no idea except for the hcw being a different version (?)
Jul 17 '05 #14
same version installed from same cd as before. Something just occurred to
me. hcw.exe was installed to a completely different directory. I don't see
how that should make a difference, but I'm going to install it in the same
directory as before and see if that changes anything.

"Raoul Watson" <Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
news:cSCSd.40871$sR5.26788@trndny05...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:25*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in the
past. What is the index file ?


I just read from your reply to Dave that you are not using an index /
mapping and I also read your help file works fine when copied from a CD.

I have no idea except for the hcw being a different version (?)

Jul 17 '05 #15
same version installed from same cd as before. Something just occurred to
me. hcw.exe was installed to a completely different directory. I don't see
how that should make a difference, but I'm going to install it in the same
directory as before and see if that changes anything.

"Raoul Watson" <Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
news:cSCSd.40871$sR5.26788@trndny05...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:25*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in the
past. What is the index file ?


I just read from your reply to Dave that you are not using an index /
mapping and I also read your help file works fine when copied from a CD.

I have no idea except for the hcw being a different version (?)

Jul 17 '05 #16
Well, that wasn't it. Same exact errors as before. There's got to be a link
to some other file/s that are either missing or in the wrong directory.
Reminds me of using MS backup some years ago. if you didn't know to also
save the catalog files and maybe another file along with the backup file,
there was no way you could restore your backup. Wish someone knew whats up
with this.

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ap****************@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
same version installed from same cd as before. Something just occurred to
me. hcw.exe was installed to a completely different directory. I don't see
how that should make a difference, but I'm going to install it in the same
directory as before and see if that changes anything.

"Raoul Watson" <Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
news:cSCSd.40871$sR5.26788@trndny05...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:25*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in
the
past. What is the index file ?


I just read from your reply to Dave that you are not using an index /
mapping and I also read your help file works fine when copied from a CD.

I have no idea except for the hcw being a different version (?)


Jul 17 '05 #17
Well, that wasn't it. Same exact errors as before. There's got to be a link
to some other file/s that are either missing or in the wrong directory.
Reminds me of using MS backup some years ago. if you didn't know to also
save the catalog files and maybe another file along with the backup file,
there was no way you could restore your backup. Wish someone knew whats up
with this.

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:ap****************@newsread2.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
same version installed from same cd as before. Something just occurred to
me. hcw.exe was installed to a completely different directory. I don't see
how that should make a difference, but I'm going to install it in the same
directory as before and see if that changes anything.

"Raoul Watson" <Wa*****@IntelligenCIA.com> wrote in message
news:cSCSd.40871$sR5.26788@trndny05...

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:25*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I'm using Win XP and I've never run into that like one usually did in
the
past. What is the index file ?


I just read from your reply to Dave that you are not using an index /
mapping and I also read your help file works fine when copied from a CD.

I have no idea except for the hcw being a different version (?)


Jul 17 '05 #18
Well, don't really get it, but there must be something about win XP service
pack 2 that screwed up how the version of hcw.exe handled the Help.rtf file
I created in word.
I'm inclined to think that, because on the prior successful compilation of
the help.rtf file, I hadn't installed Service pack 2.

Anyway, I downloaded Help Workshop 4.03 from Microsoft and ran it on the
same Help.rtf file and here are the results:

Creating the help file Help.hlp.

Processing C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98\My VB
Stuff\Help\Help.rtf

Resolving keywords...
Adding bitmaps...
52 Topics
99 Jumps
52 Keywords
43 Bitmaps
Created C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98\My VB
Stuff\Help\Help.hlp, 29,704,220 bytes
Bitmaps: 29,638,960 bytes
Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
0 notes, 0 warnings

And, yes I ran WinHelp on it and it seems to work perfectly !

THANK GOD ! The thought of recreating the 85 MB file from scratch just to
add a couple of topics was just about giving me an ulcer.

Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway.
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before doing a
final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling an
rtf file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly with
no notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to the
reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going on
here ? Please help. Thanks.

HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
Resolving keywords...
Adding bitmaps...
1 Topic
37 Jumps
1 Keyword
2 Bitmaps
Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
Bitmaps: 16 bytes
Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
2 notes, 38 warnings

Jul 17 '05 #19
Well, don't really get it, but there must be something about win XP service
pack 2 that screwed up how the version of hcw.exe handled the Help.rtf file
I created in word.
I'm inclined to think that, because on the prior successful compilation of
the help.rtf file, I hadn't installed Service pack 2.

Anyway, I downloaded Help Workshop 4.03 from Microsoft and ran it on the
same Help.rtf file and here are the results:

Creating the help file Help.hlp.

Processing C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98\My VB
Stuff\Help\Help.rtf

Resolving keywords...
Adding bitmaps...
52 Topics
99 Jumps
52 Keywords
43 Bitmaps
Created C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98\My VB
Stuff\Help\Help.hlp, 29,704,220 bytes
Bitmaps: 29,638,960 bytes
Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
0 notes, 0 warnings

And, yes I ran WinHelp on it and it seems to work perfectly !

THANK GOD ! The thought of recreating the 85 MB file from scratch just to
add a couple of topics was just about giving me an ulcer.

Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway.
"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:kX*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
After following Microsofts admonition to reformat my system before doing a
final compilation of my app I got many warnings/errors upon compiling an
rtf file created in word. I used the Help Workshop program: hcw.exe that's
included with Visual Basic. This exact same file compiled perfectly with
no notes, warnings or errors prior to reformatting my system. Prior to the
reformatting, I copied the help.rtf file onto a CD and checked the box to
verify written data - which it did successfully. What the heck is going on
here ? Please help. Thanks.

HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "INSTALLATION".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "DATE_TIME_CORRECT".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "TIPS&SUGGESTIONS".
HC3025: Warning: topic #1 of d:\help file - .rtf created
2-05-05\Help.rtf :
Jump to undefined Topic ID: "GETTING_STARTED".
Resolving keywords...
Adding bitmaps...
1 Topic
37 Jumps
1 Keyword
2 Bitmaps
Created d:\help file - .rtf created 2-05-05\Help.hlp, 43,784 bytes
Bitmaps: 16 bytes
Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
2 notes, 38 warnings

Jul 17 '05 #20

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:XZ*****************@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
| Anyway, I downloaded Help Workshop 4.03 from Microsoft and ran it on
the
| same Help.rtf file and here are the results:
|
| Created C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98\My VB
| Stuff\Help\Help.hlp, 29,704,220 bytes
| Bitmaps: 29,638,960 bytes
| Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
| 0 notes, 0 warnings
|
| And, yes I ran WinHelp on it and it seems to work perfectly !
|
| THANK GOD ! The thought of recreating the 85 MB file from scratch just
to
| add a couple of topics was just about giving me an ulcer.
|
| Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway.
|

All's well that ends well.

Jul 17 '05 #21

"Dave" <da*****@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:XZ*****************@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
| Anyway, I downloaded Help Workshop 4.03 from Microsoft and ran it on
the
| same Help.rtf file and here are the results:
|
| Created C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VB98\My VB
| Stuff\Help\Help.hlp, 29,704,220 bytes
| Bitmaps: 29,638,960 bytes
| Compile time: 0 minutes, 16 seconds
| 0 notes, 0 warnings
|
| And, yes I ran WinHelp on it and it seems to work perfectly !
|
| THANK GOD ! The thought of recreating the 85 MB file from scratch just
to
| add a couple of topics was just about giving me an ulcer.
|
| Well, thanks for the suggestions anyway.
|

All's well that ends well.

Jul 17 '05 #22

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