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A school application help please

Hi all,
i m in the process of learning VB by myself, and actually i bought a
book called "programming business applications with VB 6.0."
in this book there is an exercise or a project where they are asking
about a college or school application and in the CD compagning the
book they provide a Database written in access. that in the end will
be talking to the final VB that the learner will make.
I know there are many people who are willing to help on this forum and
thanks for so, as a start i would like to ask if anyone can provide me
or tell me where can i find a flowshart to study it and actually
understand what the problem is about and how shall i approach it since
the DB is predefined and the data modelling shall be done according to
the DB i assume. is there any usefull resource i may use? and where i
can find information on how such a problem can actually be solved, how
should i analyse the solution first and then start working on it
>>the DB is of 4 tables : students, faculty, courses and registrar
Oct 22 '08 #1
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"Totti" <sa******************@gmail.comschrieb
Hi all,
i m in the process of learning VB by myself, and actually i bought a
book called "programming business applications with VB 6.0."
Why do you buy a book about a language that is more than 10 years old and
has been superseeded by four newer versions since then?

This group is about the .Net versions (see "dotnet" in the group name). VB6
("classic") questions fit best into one of the microsoft.public.vb.* groups.

in this
book there is an exercise or a project where they are asking about a
college or school application and in the CD compagning the book they
provide a Database written in access. that in the end will be
talking to the final VB that the learner will make.
I don't understand the statement that the database will talk to the VB. Do
you mean the application written in VB will access the database?

I know there are many people who are willing to help on this forum
and thanks for so, as a start i would like to ask if anyone can
provide me or tell me where can i find a flowshart to study it and
actually understand what the problem is about [...]
Yes, what is the problem? :-) You can tell us the problem and we will try to
point you in the right direction. But as written above, the other groups are
a better place to ask.
Armin

Oct 22 '08 #2

There is a difference between VB6 and VB.NET.

This group is actually for VB.NET.

If you have a choice, you should go with VB.NET. VB.NET is a later
replacement (upgrade?) from VB6.

VB6 is also called "Classic VB".

ADO.NET is the technology that vb.net (and c#) use to talk to databases.

If you determined to stick with vb6, there is a different newsgroup for
that, FYI.


"Totti" <sa******************@gmail.comwrote in message
news:50**********************************@79g2000h sk.googlegroups.com...
Hi all,
i m in the process of learning VB by myself, and actually i bought a
book called "programming business applications with VB 6.0."
in this book there is an exercise or a project where they are asking
about a college or school application and in the CD compagning the
book they provide a Database written in access. that in the end will
be talking to the final VB that the learner will make.
I know there are many people who are willing to help on this forum and
thanks for so, as a start i would like to ask if anyone can provide me
or tell me where can i find a flowshart to study it and actually
understand what the problem is about and how shall i approach it since
the DB is predefined and the data modelling shall be done according to
the DB i assume. is there any usefull resource i may use? and where i
can find information on how such a problem can actually be solved, how
should i analyse the solution first and then start working on it
>>>the DB is of 4 tables : students, faculty, courses and registrar

Oct 22 '08 #3
Totti,

As addition to the others who have tried to help you.

VB 2008 Express (version 9 there was as well a version 7.1 before you don't
partialy understand why Armin says 10) has a free version

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/bb964633.aspx

Cor
"Totti" <sa******************@gmail.comwrote in message
news:50**********************************@79g2000h sk.googlegroups.com...
Hi all,
i m in the process of learning VB by myself, and actually i bought a
book called "programming business applications with VB 6.0."
in this book there is an exercise or a project where they are asking
about a college or school application and in the CD compagning the
book they provide a Database written in access. that in the end will
be talking to the final VB that the learner will make.
I know there are many people who are willing to help on this forum and
thanks for so, as a start i would like to ask if anyone can provide me
or tell me where can i find a flowshart to study it and actually
understand what the problem is about and how shall i approach it since
the DB is predefined and the data modelling shall be done according to
the DB i assume. is there any usefull resource i may use? and where i
can find information on how such a problem can actually be solved, how
should i analyse the solution first and then start working on it
>>>the DB is of 4 tables : students, faculty, courses and registrar
Oct 23 '08 #4
Actually you are all right and
>>>Armin -i understand you, but it seems that since it is so old, there are no news groups that are concerened with it. i understand it was my fault buying this book but you know what i ve bought it now and i d like to take soem profit out of it not throe it away. and actually you were very right about the DB should be accessed by the application.
at any rate if you have any ideas where to go get a flow chart or an
info about this task that might be helpful so i may understand better
what is happening. as long as i havent started coding VB or VB.net
oranything are the same
Oct 23 '08 #5
On Oct 23, 1:53*am, Totti <saliba.toufic.geo...@gmail.comwrote:
Actually you are all right and
>>Armin -i understand you, but it seems that since it is so old, there are no news groups that are concerened with it. i understand it was my faultbuying this book but you know what i ve bought it now and i d like to takesoem profit out of it not throe it away. and actually you were very right about the DB should be accessed by the application.

at any rate if you have any ideas where to go get a flow chart or an
info about this task that might be helpful so i may understand better
what is happening. as long as i havent started coding VB or VB.net
oranything are the same
You're best bet would be to get on Google and look for a tutorial on
accessing databases from Visual Basic .Net.

Thanks,

Seth Rowe [MVP]
http://sethrowe.blogspot.com/
Oct 23 '08 #6
"Totti" <sa******************@gmail.comschrieb
Actually you are all right and
>>>>Armin -i understand you, but it seems that since it is so old, there are
no news groups that are concerened with it.
That's not right. The newsgroups I mentioned are still busy. Merely
m.p.vb.general.discussion has ~20 new threads in the past 3 days.
i understand it was my fault buying this book but you know what i ve
bought it now and i d like to take soem profit out of it not throe it
away.
I understand this.
and actually you were very right about the DB should be accessed by the
application.
at any rate if you have any ideas where to go get a flow chart or an
info about this task that might be helpful so i may understand better
what is happening. as long as i havent started coding VB or VB.net
oranything are the same
Usually I'd say: Buy a good book. ;-)

So, if you have specific questions the groups mentioned are the right place
to ask. Though, people here might also try to help, including me.

Sorry if I say this, but if you have really no clue where to start or what
to do, you should better start with a simpler task. Database programming was
one of the things I've learned after several years of programming before.
Armin

Oct 23 '08 #7
A generic database access tool, such as MS Access, will usually provide some
means of visualising the data structures. You should look around for a tool
or utility that enables you to browse the database, and if it doesn't
generate some form of mapping for you, at least you can draw up your own as
you browse.

"Totti" <sa******************@gmail.comwrote in message
news:96**********************************@17g2000h sk.googlegroups.com...
Actually you are all right and
>>>>Armin -i understand you, but it seems that since it is so old, there are
no news groups that are concerened with it. i understand it was my fault
buying this book but you know what i ve bought it now and i d like to
take soem profit out of it not throe it away. and actually you were very
right about the DB should be accessed by the application.
at any rate if you have any ideas where to go get a flow chart or an
info about this task that might be helpful so i may understand better
what is happening. as long as i havent started coding VB or VB.net
oranything are the same
Oct 24 '08 #8
http://www.vb-tips.com/FreeOnlineBooks.aspx
"Totti" <sa******************@gmail.comwrote in message
news:96**********************************@17g2000h sk.googlegroups.com...
Actually you are all right and
>>>>Armin -i understand you, but it seems that since it is so old, there are
no news groups that are concerened with it. i understand it was my fault
buying this book but you know what i ve bought it now and i d like to
take soem profit out of it not throe it away. and actually you were very
right about the DB should be accessed by the application.
at any rate if you have any ideas where to go get a flow chart or an
info about this task that might be helpful so i may understand better
what is happening. as long as i havent started coding VB or VB.net
oranything are the same
Oct 24 '08 #9

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