Major problem with VS 2008

[Lloyd Sheen]

I know there are other files that we don't get to see in VS 2008 but why. I
know there is info about what regions are collapsed etc.

Now I have a problem with the form designer. When I open a form it right
off the bat marks it as changed. Just a double click on the form will cause
this. So I close it and say no to save it because in my mind there is no
change. Well I have a couple of ToolStripStatusLabel's that exist now in
the designer file but are no longer associated with a StatusStrip.

I really wish MS had used VS 2005 as the base for this version of VS rather
than VS 2002 which had the same types of problems. I never ran into these
types of problems with VS 2005 but VS 2008 is a real pile of _____ fill in
the blanks.

I now have to go into the designer file since ToolStripStatusLabel's do not
really exist in the form by themselves. Re add them and wait for the next
time I open the form.

I would really like to know why just opening a form will mark it as changed.
I CHANGED NOTHING.

Does anyone else have these problems.

Lloyd Sheen

[Lloyd Sheen]

"Lloyd Sheen" <[e-mail] in message
news:Oz**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>I know there are other files that we don't get to see in VS 2008 but why.
I know there is info about what regions are collapsed etc.

Now I have a problem with the form designer. When I open a form it right
off the bat marks it as changed. Just a double click on the form will
cause this. So I close it and say no to save it because in my mind there
is no change. Well I have a couple of ToolStripStatusLabel's that exist
now in the designer file but are no longer associated with a StatusStrip.

I really wish MS had used VS 2005 as the base for this version of VS
rather than VS 2002 which had the same types of problems. I never ran
into these types of problems with VS 2005 but VS 2008 is a real pile of
_____ fill in the blanks.

I now have to go into the designer file since ToolStripStatusLabel's do
not really exist in the form by themselves. Re add them and wait for the
next time I open the form.

I would really like to know why just opening a form will mark it as
changed. I CHANGED NOTHING.

Does anyone else have these problems.

Lloyd Sheen

I did more testing with a diff program and find out that neither the
designer or resx files are changed if I open then save even if the form is
marked as changed. Clean will not fixed so where and why does VS 2008 think
that things have changed??

LS

[Steve Gerrard]

Lloyd Sheen wrote:

"Lloyd Sheen" <[e-mail] in message

>>
I would really like to know why just opening a form will mark it as
changed. I CHANGED NOTHING.

Does anyone else have these problems.

Lloyd Sheen

I did more testing with a diff program and find out that neither the
designer or resx files are changed if I open then save even if the
form is marked as changed. Clean will not fixed so where and why
does VS 2008 think that things have changed??

I don't know either but I have seen it happen with VS 2005 as well, if that is
any consolation.

[Jack Jackson]

On Sat, 10 May 2008 17:22:01 -0700, "Steve Gerrard"
<my********@comcast.netwrote:

>Lloyd Sheen wrote:

>"Lloyd Sheen" <[e-mail] in message

>>>
I would really like to know why just opening a form will mark it as
changed. I CHANGED NOTHING.

Does anyone else have these problems.

Lloyd Sheen

I did more testing with a diff program and find out that neither the
designer or resx files are changed if I open then save even if the
form is marked as changed. Clean will not fixed so where and why
does VS 2008 think that things have changed??

I don't know either but I have seen it happen with VS 2005 as well, if that is
any consolation.

I have a couple of UserControl based classes that do this in both
VS2005 and 2008. It's very annoying.

[John]

I just say Yes to save and get on with it.

"Lloyd Sheen" <[e-mail] in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>
"Lloyd Sheen" <[e-mail] in message
news:Oz**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>>I know there are other files that we don't get to see in VS 2008 but why.
I know there is info about what regions are collapsed etc.

Now I have a problem with the form designer. When I open a form it right
off the bat marks it as changed. Just a double click on the form will
cause this. So I close it and say no to save it because in my mind there
is no change. Well I have a couple of ToolStripStatusLabel's that exist
now in the designer file but are no longer associated with a StatusStrip.

I really wish MS had used VS 2005 as the base for this version of VS
rather than VS 2002 which had the same types of problems. I never ran
into these types of problems with VS 2005 but VS 2008 is a real pile of
_____ fill in the blanks.

I now have to go into the designer file since ToolStripStatusLabel's do
not really exist in the form by themselves. Re add them and wait for the
next time I open the form.

I would really like to know why just opening a form will mark it as
changed. I CHANGED NOTHING.

Does anyone else have these problems.

Lloyd Sheen

I did more testing with a diff program and find out that neither the
designer or resx files are changed if I open then save even if the form is
marked as changed. Clean will not fixed so where and why does VS 2008
think that things have changed??

LS

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At step 9, for me, it is marked as changed. You should log this into
Microsoft Connect.

"Lloyd Sheen" wrote:

>
Steps to recreate the problem

1. Create new form
2. Save and close
3. Open form (not marked as changed)
4. Add tabcontrol and dock fill to form
5. Save and close
6. Open form (not marked as changed)
7. Add listbox and dock fill to tabpage
8. Save and close
9. Open form (not marked as changed)
10. Click on tabpage2 so that it is selected
11. Save and close
12. Open form (now it is marked as changed but does not open to tabpage2

After all that on each open of the form it is marked as changed. I hope you
are listening MS.
After all that playing with the designer file and then opening the form I
find that if I comment out the line when I dock fill the listbox the form
will not open as changed.

LS

[Steve Gerrard]

Family Tree Mike wrote:

At step 9, for me, it is marked as changed. You should log this into
Microsoft Connect.

Ditto for me, in VS 2005. Also ditto the listbox Fill status. If the Listbox is
not docked, no change. If it is docked to a tab page, opening it marks the form
as changed. It is just so not right.

[Lloyd Sheen]

"Family Tree Mike" <Fa************@discussions.microsoft.comwrote in
message news:29**********************************@microsof t.com...

At step 9, for me, it is marked as changed. You should log this into
Microsoft Connect.

"Lloyd Sheen" wrote:

>>
Steps to recreate the problem

1. Create new form
2. Save and close
3. Open form (not marked as changed)
4. Add tabcontrol and dock fill to form
5. Save and close
6. Open form (not marked as changed)
7. Add listbox and dock fill to tabpage
8. Save and close
9. Open form (not marked as changed)
10. Click on tabpage2 so that it is selected
11. Save and close
12. Open form (now it is marked as changed but does not open to
tabpage2

After all that on each open of the form it is marked as changed. I hope
you
are listening MS.
After all that playing with the designer file and then opening the form I
find that if I comment out the line when I dock fill the listbox the form
will not open as changed.

LS

Submitted to MS Connect
LS

[Just_a_fan]

I wish WORD developers would think this same way.

1. Open a file,
2. print it,
3. close it,

4. and HERE is that same question about saving changes. I changed
NOTHING! Yet it asks me about saving my "changes" and has forever.

So I get used to clicking No and then one time I did change something, I
lose it when I automatically click no to this DUMB, ALWAYS THERE
QUESTION!

Yeah, there should be some fixing of what we have instead of this
headlong rush to put out more broken code on top of broken code!

Just my opinion,
Mike

On Sat, 10 May 2008 18:23:44 -0400, in
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb "Lloyd Sheen" <[e-mail]:

>I know there are other files that we don't get to see in VS 2008 but why. I
know there is info about what regions are collapsed etc.

Now I have a problem with the form designer. When I open a form it right
off the bat marks it as changed. Just a double click on the form will cause
this. So I close it and say no to save it because in my mind there is no
change. Well I have a couple of ToolStripStatusLabel's that exist now in
the designer file but are no longer associated with a StatusStrip.

I really wish MS had used VS 2005 as the base for this version of VS rather
than VS 2002 which had the same types of problems. I never ran into these
types of problems with VS 2005 but VS 2008 is a real pile of _____ fill in
the blanks.

I now have to go into the designer file since ToolStripStatusLabel's do not
really exist in the form by themselves. Re add them and wait for the next
time I open the form.

I would really like to know why just opening a form will mark it as changed.
I CHANGED NOTHING.

Does anyone else have these problems.

Lloyd Sheen