.net frame work 3

[Omar Abid]

Hi,
Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3
And does program made with vb2005 .net 2 works on windows vista
And can i make compatibility of vb2005 with the .net 3
Omar Abid

[Rory Becker]

Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

..Net 3.0 = .Net2.0 + WPF + WCF + a few others

And does program made with vb2005 .net 2 works on windows vista

Yes

And can i make compatibility of vb2005 with the .net 3

Sorry I'm not sure I understand this one.

Possibly you mean "Can I code against .Net 3.0 with VS2005?"

If so then the answer is yes although you will likely need the November CTP
of the VS2005 Extentionsfor some bits.

I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area, perhaps someone else can fill
in the blanks.

--
Rory

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 25, 1:40 pm, Rory Becker <[e-mail]:

Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

.Net 3.0 = .Net2.0 + WPF + WCF + a few others

And does program made with vb2005 .net 2 works on windows vista

Yes

And can i make compatibility of vb2005 with the .net 3

Sorry I'm not sure I understand this one.

Possibly you mean "Can I code against .Net 3.0 with VS2005?"

If so then the answer is yes although you will likely need the November CTP
of the VS2005 Extentionsfor some bits.

I don't have a lot of knowledge in this area, perhaps someone else can fill
in the blanks.

--
Rory

Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead of
version 2 in programing with vb2005
Omar Abid

[Phill W.]

Omar Abid wrote:

Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

dotNet_3 = dotNet_2 + Whizzo_Vista_specific_classes

And does program made with vb2005 .net 2 works on windows vista

VB2005 /SP1/, yes.

And can i make compatibility of vb2005 with the .net 3

Just add references to the "new" bits you want to use.

HTH,
Phill W.

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 25, 2:13 pm, "Phill W." <p-.-a-.-w-a-r...@-o-p-e-n-.-a-c-.-u-k>
wrote:

Omar Abid wrote:

Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

dotNet_3 = dotNet_2 + Whizzo_Vista_specific_classes

And does program made with vb2005 .net 2 works on windows vista

VB2005 /SP1/, yes.

And can i make compatibility of vb2005 with the .net 3

Just add references to the "new" bits you want to use.

HTH,
Phill W.

thx

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

"Omar Abid" <om***********@gmail.comschrieb:

Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead of
version 2 in programing with vb2005

Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of .NET
2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some additional
class libraries, which you can reference from within your projects.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 25, 8:48 pm, "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-
[e-mail]:

"Omar Abid" <[e-mail]:

Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead of
version 2 in programing with vb2005

Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of .NET
2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some additional
class libraries, which you can reference from within your projects.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

and can i use those new libraries ?

[Rory Becker]

"Omar Abid" <om***********@gmail.comschrieb:

>

>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
of version 2 in programing with vb2005

Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
projects.

I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is that
if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries it contains
from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)

--
Rory

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$[e-mail]:

>Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

dotNet_3 = dotNet_2 + Whizzo_Vista_specific_classes

WCF, WPF, WFF, WCS all rujn under XP too!

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 26, 12:06 pm, Spam Catcher <[e-mail]:

"Phill W." <p-.-a-.-w-a-r...@-o-p-e-n-.-a-c-.-u-kwrote in news:f5obi1$qn2
$[e-mail]:

Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

dotNet_3 = dotNet_2 + Whizzo_Vista_specific_classes

WCF, WPF, WFF, WCS all rujn under XP too!

what r those tools ??

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On Jun 26, 12:06 pm, Spam Catcher <[e-mail]:

>"Phill W." <p-.-a-.-w-a-r...@-o-p-e-n-.-a-c-.-u-kwrote in
news:f5obi1$qn2 $[e-mail]:

>Does any one know the difference between .net 2 and .net 3

dotNet_3 = dotNet_2 + Whizzo_Vista_specific_classes

WCF, WPF, WFF, WCS all rujn under XP too!

what r those tools ??

Windows Communications Framework (Remoting Replacement)
Windows Presentation Foundation (New GUI framework)
Windows WorkFlow Foundation (Workflow engine)
Windows CardSpaces (Security Framework)

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Rory Becker wrote:

>"Omar Abid" <om***********@gmail.comschrieb:

>>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
of version 2 in programing with vb2005

Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
projects.

I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries it
contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)

I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 instead of
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.

--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com

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Omar Abid wrote:

On Jun 26, 6:29 pm, Göran Andersson <[e-mail]:

>Rory Becker wrote:

>>>"Omar Abid" <[e-mail]:
Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
of version 2 in programing with vb2005
Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
projects.
I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries it
contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)

I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 instead of
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.

--
Göran Andersson
_____http://www.guffa.com

but you suppose !! I want to know if Microsoft has sure things about
that

I suppose that's what Herfried ment when writing "Yes and no".

That fact that .NET framework 3.0 uses VB.NET 2.0 is certainly a fact.

--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 27, 11:12 am, Rory Becker <[e-mail]:

I agree with Göran entirely.

Fact 1: 3.0 contains and extends 2.0 whilst still running on the same CLR

My only question was regarding how the answer to the OP's question could
be even slightly No.

I believe Göran's supposition was regarding what Herfied meant by 'No'.

He was not supposing about Fact 1 (above).

--
Rory

Ok, the best solution is to install .net 3 and try it my self

[Rory Becker]

I agree with Göran entirely.

Fact 1: 3.0 contains and extends 2.0 whilst still running on the same CLR

My only question was regarding how the answer to the OP's question could
be even slightly No.

I believe Göran's supposition was regarding what Herfied meant by 'No'.

He was not supposing about Fact 1 (above).

--
Rory

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 26, 6:29 pm, Göran Andersson <[e-mail]:

Rory Becker wrote:

"Omar Abid" <[e-mail]:

>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
of version 2 in programing with vb2005

Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
projects.

I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries it
contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)

I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 instead of
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.

--
Göran Andersson
_____http://www.guffa.com

but you suppose !! I want to know if Microsoft has sure things about
that

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

"Göran Andersson" <gu***@guffa.comschrieb:

>>>>>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
>of version 2 in programing with vb2005
Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
projects.
I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries
it
contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)
I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 instead of
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.

but you suppose !! I want to know if Microsoft has sure things about
that

I suppose that's what Herfried ment when writing "Yes and no".

Your assumption is correct.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 27, 6:16 pm, "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-
[e-mail]:

"Göran Andersson" <[e-mail]:

>>>>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
of version 2 in programing with vb2005
Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are partof
.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
projects.
I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries
it
contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)
I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 insteadof
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.

but you suppose !! I want to know if Microsoft has sure things about
that

I suppose that's what Herfried ment when writing "Yes and no".

Your assumption is correct.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

but if i use .net 3 the program will need it to work ?

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Omar Abid wrote:

On Jun 27, 6:16 pm, "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-
[e-mail]:

>"Göran Andersson" <[e-mail]:

>>>>>>>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
>>>of version 2 in programing with vb2005
>>Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
>>.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
>>additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
>>projects.
>I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
>that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries
>it
>contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)
I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 instead of
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.
but you suppose !! I want to know if Microsoft has sure things about
that
I suppose that's what Herfried ment when writing "Yes and no".

Your assumption is correct.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

but if i use .net 3 the program will need it to work ?

If you use any of the libraries that was added in .NET 3, your program
will need .NET 3 to run.

--
Göran Andersson
_____
http://www.guffa.com

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 28, 9:06 am, Göran Andersson <[e-mail]:

Omar Abid wrote:

On Jun 27, 6:16 pm, "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hirf-spam-me-
[e-mail]:

"Göran Andersson" <[e-mail]:

>>>>>>Thx 4 reply what i want is that can i use .net frame work 3 instead
>>of version 2 in programing with vb2005
>Yes and no. The programming languages and libraries which are part of
>.NET 2.0 have not changed with .NET 3.0. .NET 3.0 simply adds some
>additional class libraries, which you can reference from within your
>projects.
I don't understand why part of your answer is No. The simple fact is
that if .net 3.0 SDK is installed then he can reference the libraries
it
contains from VS2005 (albeit with SP1 installed as Phil pointed out)
I suppose that the "no" part is that you can't use VB.NET 3.0 instead of
VB.NET 2.0 in .NET framework 3.0, because .NET framework 3.0 still uses
VB.NET 2.0.
but you suppose !! I want to know if Microsoft has sure things about
that
I suppose that's what Herfried ment when writing "Yes and no".
Your assumption is correct.

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/dotnet/faqs/>

but if i use .net 3 the program will need it to work ?

If you use any of the libraries that was added in .NET 3, your program
will need .NET 3 to run.

--
Göran Andersson
_____http://www.guffa.com

but users can't install .net 2 and .net 3 at the same time !

[Rory Becker]

Omar Abid wrote:

>
but users can't install .net 2 and .net 3 at the same time !

What gives you that Idea?

--
Rory

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 28, 10:24 am, Rory Becker <[e-mail]:

Omar Abid wrote:

but users can't install .net 2 and .net 3 at the same time !

What gives you that Idea?

--
Rory

I just wanted to know if .net 3 can help me in programing !

[Rory Becker]

On Jun 28, 10:24 am, Rory Becker <[e-mail]:

>

>>Omar Abid wrote:

but users can't install .net 2 and .net 3 at the same time !

What gives you that Idea?

I just wanted to know if .net 3 can help me in programing !

The short answer is yet but you will still have to deploy .Net3.0 to your
userbase (unless they are running Vista)

However I think there is some confusion here between the .Net2.0 vs .Net3.0
and vs2005 vs vs2008(Orcas)

..Net2.0 = A framework required for any work done in vs2005(.Net stuff anyway)

..Net3.0 = An additional set of libraries to provide additional functionality.
(WPF etc)
..Net3.0 = Includes .Net2.0
..Net3.0 = Is required by end users for any code written that targets those
libraries.

vs2005 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net2.0
vs2005 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net3.0

..Net3.5 = Is yet more libraries which provide yet more functionality
..Net3.5 = Will still be required by any user wishing to
..Net3.5 = Is not released except in Beta1 with Orcas Beta1

vs2008 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net2.0
vs2008 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net3.0
vs2008 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net3.5
vs2008 = *Has many new IDE features which can make your life as a programmer
easier*
vs2008 = *Has some new IDE features which, although new, can still target
..Net2.0, .Net3.0, .Net3.5*
vs2008 = Is not released except at Beta1 status.
vs2008 = *Is probably the thing you are really asking/hearing about*

I hope some of this helps

--
Rory

[Rory Becker]

The short answer is yet

Should have been

---------------------------------
The short answer is yes.
---------------------------------
--
Rory

[Omar Abid]

On Jun 28, 11:41 am, Rory Becker <[e-mail]:

On Jun 28, 10:24 am, Rory Becker <[e-mail]:

>Omar Abid wrote:

>but users can't install .net 2 and .net 3 at the same time !

What gives you that Idea?

I just wanted to know if .net 3 can help me in programing !

The short answer is yet but you will still have to deploy .Net3.0 to your
userbase (unless they are running Vista)

However I think there is some confusion here between the .Net2.0 vs .Net3.0
and vs2005 vs vs2008(Orcas)

.Net2.0 = A framework required for any work done in vs2005(.Net stuff anyway)

.Net3.0 = An additional set of libraries to provide additional functionality.
(WPF etc)
.Net3.0 = Includes .Net2.0
.Net3.0 = Is required by end users for any code written that targets those
libraries.

vs2005 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net2.0
vs2005 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net3.0

.Net3.5 = Is yet more libraries which provide yet more functionality
.Net3.5 = Will still be required by any user wishing to
.Net3.5 = Is not released except in Beta1 with Orcas Beta1

vs2008 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net2.0
vs2008 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net3.0
vs2008 = A version of VS which can write code that targets .Net3.5
vs2008 = *Has many new IDE features which can make your life as a programmer
easier*
vs2008 = *Has some new IDE features which, although new, can still target
.Net2.0, .Net3.0, .Net3.5*
vs2008 = Is not released except at Beta1 status.
vs2008 = *Is probably the thing you are really asking/hearing about*

I hope some of this helps

--
Rory

VS 2008 ? Is there VB 2008 ?

[Rory Becker]

Omar Abid wrote:

but users can't install .net 2 and .net 3 at the same time !

Rory wrote:
What gives you that Idea?

Omar Abid wrote:
I just wanted to know if .net 3 can help me in programing !

Rory wrote:
The short answer is yes but you will still have to deploy .Net3.0 to
your userbase (unless they are running Vista)

However I think there is some confusion here between the .Net2.0 vs
.Net3.0 and vs2005 vs vs2008(Orcas)

vs2008 = Is not released except at Beta1 status.

Omar Abid wrote:
VS 2008 ? Is there VB 2008 ?

If you had read my previous answer you would know **Vs2008 is in *BETA* now**.

It supports .Net 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 and is codenamed Orcas.

This is the only Microsoft .Net IDE which gives you new coding features you
can apply to old frameworks without additional framework distribution.

(This is a hard enough conversation without anyone picking on my last statement
because of 1.1 vs 1.0)

--
Rory

[Armin Zingler]

"Omar Abid" <om***********@gmail.comschrieb

VS 2008 ? Is there VB 2008 ?

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/aa700830.aspx

Armin