VB 2005 'class designer'

[susiedba]

hey I used to use the 'class designer' in Vb6 all the time.

but now I don't see anything similiar in Vb 2005 express edition.

do I need to buy Visio in order to do this?
are there professional level class design tools for Vb 2005?

-Susie

[dbahooker]

I've heard that it is in the MSDN Architect level; but it's not like
I'm going to spend THREE GRAND to find out

I sure couldn't get the trial installed to say the least

-Aaron

[Larry Linson]

yeah; I used that a lot also

and now that they are shoving OOP down our throats-- now that we are
getting orally raped by .NET oop (whether we want it or not, we get
it)

it just doesn't seem like Microsoft has a very well rounded product
offering

I remember the good ole days when we had ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL

oh sorry; I meant ONE LANGUAGE TO RULE THEM ALL

too bad that MS is a bunch of C++ and Excel _FAGS_ and they must have
never used Vb6.
FROM WHERE I AM STANDING; IT WAS BY FAR THE MOST SUCCESSFUL
PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE OF ALL TIME.

I mean; you could re-use code in VBS and VBA and DHTML and ASP

those were the good old days.

Too bad that MS took this whole security thing and turned it into a
SCAM.
THEY SHOULD HAVE FOCUSED ON FIXING THINGS LIKE SQL STANDARD SECURITY
INSTEAD OF FORCING FEATURES ON US THAT WE DO NOT WANT.

80% of VB6 developers 'never used a class'

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHO THE _HELL_ THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO
FORCE OOP UPON US?

AND IT IS AN INCOMPLETE OOP-- OOP IN VB AND C# IS POINTLESS, IT HAS NO
MORE REAL FUNCTIONALITY THAN VB6

and of course; it's all going to change again in the next release
-Larry
On Feb 9, 6:45 pm, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
wrote:

I've heard that it is in the MSDN Architect level; but it's not like
I'm going to spend THREE GRAND to find out

I sure couldn't get the trial installed to say the least

-Aaron