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Why I am sick of .Net

If your gonna flame, shut up and read first:

I have been programming in VB (5, 6), VB.NET (1.0,1.1, 2.0), VBA, etc..
since 2000.

I really loved working with that RAD tool, Visual BASIC IDE, and Visual
Studio .Net.

But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!

WHAT THE @*&!# HECK!!!!

Always with the stupid 'workaround' solutions. Burn VB!, burn to a
crisp. I hope you die of a lethal flatite. Everyone hates you VB,
Nobody likes you. I certainly dont. And I hope you and your stupid
'workaround' functionality all just explodes into a gazillion snippets
of code. So there!
Well, enough of that. Hope you all enjoyed my dumb post. :-)

Dec 9 '06 #1
16 1065
Aalbino,

I would not say it your way, however I agree with you that it seems that
Microsoft is more and more busy hunting the next never to use solution, than
making the ones that have proven themselves to be needed really working for
100% correct.

Just my opinion.

Cor

<aa*****@comcast.netschreef in bericht
news:11**********************@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
If your gonna flame, shut up and read first:

I have been programming in VB (5, 6), VB.NET (1.0,1.1, 2.0), VBA, etc..
since 2000.

I really loved working with that RAD tool, Visual BASIC IDE, and Visual
Studio .Net.

But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!

WHAT THE @*&!# HECK!!!!

Always with the stupid 'workaround' solutions. Burn VB!, burn to a
crisp. I hope you die of a lethal flatite. Everyone hates you VB,
Nobody likes you. I certainly dont. And I hope you and your stupid
'workaround' functionality all just explodes into a gazillion snippets
of code. So there!
Well, enough of that. Hope you all enjoyed my dumb post. :-)

Dec 9 '06 #2
aa*****@comcast.net wrote in news:1165639966.164986.220650@
80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!
What 1/2 doesn't work?
Dec 9 '06 #3
I think he has it installed on his Radio Shack TRS-80.

That could be the problem!
"Spam Catcher" <sp**********@rogers.comwrote in message
news:Xn*********************************@127.0.0.1 ...
aa*****@comcast.net wrote in news:1165639966.164986.220650@
80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
>But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!

What 1/2 doesn't work?
Dec 9 '06 #4

Henry Jones wrote:
I think he has it installed on his Radio Shack TRS-80.

That could be the problem!
"Spam Catcher" <sp**********@rogers.comwrote in message
news:Xn*********************************@127.0.0.1 ...
aa*****@comcast.net wrote in news:1165639966.164986.220650@
80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!
What 1/2 doesn't work?
@Henry Jones: Its all about the 5 1/4 floppy. :-)

Here is what doesnt work:

-Memory related api in Managed Direct X
-Working with memory bitmap bits in GDI+ (again, mostly memory
manipulating related)
-Methods that are supposed to work one way, but dont. (It turns out a
certain method or function is deprecated in version X.x.x of the
framework)

BTW: My machine is nice and new, not old or junky. Thanks.

Dec 9 '06 #5
aa*****@comcast.net wrote:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!
For example?

I've been programming for a lot longer than the last six years, using lots
of languages including VB back to version 3, C/C++, and a variety of
assembly languages (the good ol' days :-). And against all that, I think VB
(VB6 and VB.NET) are both pretty damn good.

In my experience complaints like this are usually from people who
misunderstood how it was supposed to work in the first place.

So let's see a few good examples of the crap that doesn't work, please. I
assume you're just trolling but you can prove me wrong if you like.

--

(O)enone
Dec 9 '06 #6
Henry,
>I think he has it installed on his Radio Shack TRS-80.

That could be the problem!
Aalbino is telling in his way his problem with Microsoft products, although
he tells in the same way that he is a fervent user of it.

I don't think that your reaction is accoording his message.

Just my thought,

Cor
Dec 10 '06 #7
I certainly can. Try handling bitmap bits directly in VB.NET (1.0, 1.1,
maybe even 2.0)
You cant. Not without breaking managed code and using DLL hell.

C# can do it, and only because it can be forced to use unmanaged C++
within code.

If you need more, go to google.com, and search form "vb workaround".

So there. Your wrong. ;)

Oenone wrote:
aa*****@comcast.net wrote:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!

For example?

I've been programming for a lot longer than the last six years, using lots
of languages including VB back to version 3, C/C++, and a variety of
assembly languages (the good ol' days :-). And against all that, I think VB
(VB6 and VB.NET) are both pretty damn good.

In my experience complaints like this are usually from people who
misunderstood how it was supposed to work in the first place.

So let's see a few good examples of the crap that doesn't work, please. I
assume you're just trolling but you can prove me wrong if you like.

--

(O)enone
Dec 10 '06 #8
>I certainly can. Try handling bitmap bits directly in VB.NET (1.0, 1.1,
maybe even 2.0)
You cant. Not without breaking managed code and using DLL hell.

Huh?

Dim bmData As New BitmapData()

bmData = bm.LockBits(New Rectangle(0, 0, bm.Width, bm.Height),
ImageLockMode.ReadWrite, PixelFormat.Format32bppRgb)

Dim stride As Integer = bmData.Stride
Dim scan0 As IntPtr = bmData.Scan0

Dim bits(bm.Height * stride - 1) As Byte

Marshal.Copy(scan0, bits, 0, bits.Length)
<aa*****@comcast.netwrote in message
news:11**********************@l12g2000cwl.googlegr oups.com...
>I certainly can. Try handling bitmap bits directly in VB.NET (1.0, 1.1,
maybe even 2.0)
You cant. Not without breaking managed code and using DLL hell.

C# can do it, and only because it can be forced to use unmanaged C++
within code.

If you need more, go to google.com, and search form "vb workaround".

So there. Your wrong. ;)

Oenone wrote:
>aa*****@comcast.net wrote:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!

For example?

I've been programming for a lot longer than the last six years, using
lots
of languages including VB back to version 3, C/C++, and a variety of
assembly languages (the good ol' days :-). And against all that, I think
VB
(VB6 and VB.NET) are both pretty damn good.

In my experience complaints like this are usually from people who
misunderstood how it was supposed to work in the first place.

So let's see a few good examples of the crap that doesn't work, please. I
assume you're just trolling but you can prove me wrong if you like.

--

(O)enone

Dec 11 '06 #9
ful;ly agree Cor; I think that MS needs to stop selling new versions
and start fixing bugs

I hope that was a good paraphrasing.

And I think that you deserve a FRIGGIN MEDAL DUDE.

Well spoken; thank you for your time, Cor

-Aaron
Cor Ligthert [MVP] wrote:
Aalbino,

I would not say it your way, however I agree with you that it seems that
Microsoft is more and more busy hunting the next never to use solution, than
making the ones that have proven themselves to be needed really working for
100% correct.

Just my opinion.

Cor

<aa*****@comcast.netschreef in bericht
news:11**********************@80g2000cwy.googlegro ups.com...
If your gonna flame, shut up and read first:

I have been programming in VB (5, 6), VB.NET (1.0,1.1, 2.0), VBA, etc..
since 2000.

I really loved working with that RAD tool, Visual BASIC IDE, and Visual
Studio .Net.

But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!

WHAT THE @*&!# HECK!!!!

Always with the stupid 'workaround' solutions. Burn VB!, burn to a
crisp. I hope you die of a lethal flatite. Everyone hates you VB,
Nobody likes you. I certainly dont. And I hope you and your stupid
'workaround' functionality all just explodes into a gazillion snippets
of code. So there!
Well, enough of that. Hope you all enjoyed my dumb post. :-)
Dec 11 '06 #10
wow.. good analogy

why doesn't microsoft illustrate the message that 'VB2005 is 10 times
faster/easier to write'
I wish that there were more people out there saying positive things
abotu VB.net; because the shore that I'm standing on says it's a
complete market failure

-Aaron


Rich wrote:
I wrote a slideshow app using gdi and multithreading in VB2003 and was having
a variety of problems. Like you I was disappointed with the product. Then I
rewrote the app in vb2005. The error trapping/debugging in vb2005 clearly
identified my problem which was not clear in VB2003. I was crossthreading
(and a few other things). The debugging in VB2005 even advised me what to do
- use delegates. I did that and viola! No more problems! Using delegates
was not a workaround - it was finishing writing my code correctly. VB2005
rules!

If I have to write something for the space shuttle, I'll use C#. But for
everthing else that is Earthbound - VB2005 is 10 times faster/easier to write.

Rich

"Oenone" wrote:
aa*****@comcast.net wrote:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!
For example?

I've been programming for a lot longer than the last six years, using lots
of languages including VB back to version 3, C/C++, and a variety of
assembly languages (the good ol' days :-). And against all that, I think VB
(VB6 and VB.NET) are both pretty damn good.

In my experience complaints like this are usually from people who
misunderstood how it was supposed to work in the first place.

So let's see a few good examples of the crap that doesn't work, please. I
assume you're just trolling but you can prove me wrong if you like.

--

(O)enone

Dec 12 '06 #11
Yeah right VB.NET for serious apps - LOL. A friend told me that an
Iranian company has offered to write an air-traffic control system for
LAX airport using VB.NET.

The Grand Master
Rich wrote:
I wrote a slideshow app using gdi and multithreading in VB2003 and was having
a variety of problems. Like you I was disappointed with the product. Then I
rewrote the app in vb2005. The error trapping/debugging in vb2005 clearly
identified my problem which was not clear in VB2003. I was crossthreading
(and a few other things). The debugging in VB2005 even advised me what to do
- use delegates. I did that and viola! No more problems! Using delegates
was not a workaround - it was finishing writing my code correctly. VB2005
rules!

If I have to write something for the space shuttle, I'll use C#. But for
everthing else that is Earthbound - VB2005 is 10 times faster/easier to write.

Rich

"Oenone" wrote:
aa*****@comcast.net wrote:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!
For example?

I've been programming for a lot longer than the last six years, using lots
of languages including VB back to version 3, C/C++, and a variety of
assembly languages (the good ol' days :-). And against all that, I think VB
(VB6 and VB.NET) are both pretty damn good.

In my experience complaints like this are usually from people who
misunderstood how it was supposed to work in the first place.

So let's see a few good examples of the crap that doesn't work, please. I
assume you're just trolling but you can prove me wrong if you like.

--

(O)enone

Dec 13 '06 #12
I can't wait till we get another republican in 2008 and we invade Iran.
those mother fuckers can eat pork for all I care

shit i hope that we do it right now-- set those fuckers straight.

and have israel invade syria at the same time; we'll clean up the gulf
in about a week
-Aaron

Master Programmer wrote:
Yeah right VB.NET for serious apps - LOL. A friend told me that an
Iranian company has offered to write an air-traffic control system for
LAX airport using VB.NET.

The Grand Master
Rich wrote:
I wrote a slideshow app using gdi and multithreading in VB2003 and was having
a variety of problems. Like you I was disappointed with the product. Then I
rewrote the app in vb2005. The error trapping/debugging in vb2005 clearly
identified my problem which was not clear in VB2003. I was crossthreading
(and a few other things). The debugging in VB2005 even advised me what to do
- use delegates. I did that and viola! No more problems! Using delegates
was not a workaround - it was finishing writing my code correctly. VB2005
rules!

If I have to write something for the space shuttle, I'll use C#. But for
everthing else that is Earthbound - VB2005 is 10 times faster/easier to write.

Rich

"Oenone" wrote:
aa*****@comcast.net wrote:
But the think that just drives me past the brink of flipping insanity
is the FACT that half the crap thats supposed to work a certain way in
VB6 or .NET just plain DOESN'T!!!!!!!
>
For example?
>
I've been programming for a lot longer than the last six years, using lots
of languages including VB back to version 3, C/C++, and a variety of
assembly languages (the good ol' days :-). And against all that, I think VB
(VB6 and VB.NET) are both pretty damn good.
>
In my experience complaints like this are usually from people who
misunderstood how it was supposed to work in the first place.
>
So let's see a few good examples of the crap that doesn't work, please. I
assume you're just trolling but you can prove me wrong if you like.
>
--
>
(O)enone
>
>
>
Dec 13 '06 #13
Dear Aaron,
I can't wait till we get another republican in 2008 and we invade Iran.
those mother fuckers can eat pork for all I care

shit i hope that we do it right now-- set those fuckers straight.

and have israel invade syria at the same time; we'll clean up the gulf
in about a week
An attitude like yours is why other countries need atomic bombs.

Best Regards,

HKSHK
Dec 13 '06 #14
eat shit commie raghead

mother fuckers took our planes and crashed them into our buildings.

Maybe you fucking idiots should have kept them from doing that-- if you
wanted the BENEFIT of independence.

It's obvious that we just need to colonize the savages again

-Aaron

HKSHK wrote:
Dear Aaron,
I can't wait till we get another republican in 2008 and we invade Iran.
those mother fuckers can eat pork for all I care

shit i hope that we do it right now-- set those fuckers straight.

and have israel invade syria at the same time; we'll clean up the gulf
in about a week

An attitude like yours is why other countries need atomic bombs.

Best Regards,

HKSHK
Dec 13 '06 #15
aa*********@gmail.com wrote:
eat shit commie raghead

mother fuckers took our planes and crashed them into our buildings.

Maybe you fucking idiots should have kept them from doing that-- if you
wanted the BENEFIT of independence.

It's obvious that we just need to colonize the savages again

-Aaron


L O L
Dec 14 '06 #16
mother fucker

saddam hussein was paying people to blow themselves up in the west
bank.

IS THAT RATIONAL? to pay people to blow themselves up?

you should die under the stiff boat of a dictator you stupid fucking
raghead

-Aaron

Dec 14 '06 #17

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