Good book for an absolute beginner on VB.net or 2005 with databases

[weight gain 2000]

Hello all!

I'm looking for a very good book for an absolute beginner on
VB.net or VB 2005 with emphasis on databases. What would you
reccommend?

Thanks!

[Kerry Moorman]

weight gain 2000,

Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute beginner with the
particular tool, VB2005?

Or have you never written a line of code in any language?

Kerry Moorman
"weight gain 2000" wrote:

Hello all!

I'm looking for a very good book for an absolute beginner on
VB.net or VB 2005 with emphasis on databases. What would you
reccommend?

Thanks!

[weight gain 2000]

Kerry Moorman wrote:

weight gain 2000,

Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute
beginner with the particular tool, VB2005?

Or have you never written a line of code in any language?

Kerry Moorman

The person I'm willing to buy this book for has absolutely no
programming experience (well, maybe he did a bit of fortran as
part of his undergraduate courses but I consider this no
experience at all, and he admits not remembering anything at
all). He just wants to learn an easy way to program database
stuff (hence VB 2005 + databases)...

So, I'm looking for a good introductory book for him.

If your experience suggests something else, feel free to correct
me

[Kerry Moorman]

weight gain 2000,

In my opinion, your friend really needs to take one or two introductory
courses at a community/technical/undergraduate college.

The courses should cover the fundamental concepts of program design and
development that are common to all programming languages:

Algorithms
Variables
Sequence
Selection
Repetition
Code organization using procedures
Elementary data structures, such as arrays and structures
Code organization using classes and objects
Collections

I think an introductory course in database design is also very important,
even for experienced programmers who need to design a database structure as
part of their coding projects.

With this fundamental background as context, it might then be possible to
pick up specific Visual Basic skills from a book.

Kerry Moorman
"weight gain 2000" wrote:

Kerry Moorman wrote:

weight gain 2000,

Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute
beginner with the particular tool, VB2005?

Or have you never written a line of code in any language?

Kerry Moorman

The person I'm willing to buy this book for has absolutely no
programming experience (well, maybe he did a bit of fortran as
part of his undergraduate courses but I consider this no
experience at all, and he admits not remembering anything at
all). He just wants to learn an easy way to program database
stuff (hence VB 2005 + databases)...

So, I'm looking for a good introductory book for him.

If your experience suggests something else, feel free to correct
me

[aaron.kempf]

kerry

are you a fucking idiot or a professor?

teach them 'ACCESS MACROS' they're all multiple choice; no programming
necessary and he would be productive starting in hour 1.

VB 2005 sure isn't flying off the shelves; so I wouldn't invest in YET
ANOTHER LANGUAGE THAT MICROSOFT WILL KILL OFF WHEN THEY GET BORED

-Aaron

Kerry Moorman wrote:

weight gain 2000,

In my opinion, your friend really needs to take one or two introductory
courses at a community/technical/undergraduate college.

The courses should cover the fundamental concepts of program design and
development that are common to all programming languages:

Algorithms
Variables
Sequence
Selection
Repetition
Code organization using procedures
Elementary data structures, such as arrays and structures
Code organization using classes and objects
Collections

I think an introductory course in database design is also very important,
even for experienced programmers who need to design a database structure as
part of their coding projects.

With this fundamental background as context, it might then be possible to
pick up specific Visual Basic skills from a book.

Kerry Moorman
"weight gain 2000" wrote:

Kerry Moorman wrote:

weight gain 2000,
>
Are you an experienced database programmer but an absolute
beginner with the particular tool, VB2005?
>
Or have you never written a line of code in any language?
>
Kerry Moorman

The person I'm willing to buy this book for has absolutely no
programming experience (well, maybe he did a bit of fortran as
part of his undergraduate courses but I consider this no
experience at all, and he admits not remembering anything at
all). He just wants to learn an easy way to program database
stuff (hence VB 2005 + databases)...

So, I'm looking for a good introductory book for him.

If your experience suggests something else, feel free to correct
me

[weight gain 2000]

Kerry Moorman wrote:

weight gain 2000,

In my opinion, your friend really needs to take one or two
introductory courses at a community/technical/undergraduate
college.

The courses should cover the fundamental concepts of program
design and development that are common to all programming
languages:

Algorithms
Variables
Sequence
Selection
Repetition
Code organization using procedures
Elementary data structures, such as arrays and structures
Code organization using classes and objects
Collections

I think an introductory course in database design is also very
important, even for experienced programmers who need to design
a database structure as part of their coding projects.

With this fundamental background as context, it might then be
possible to pick up specific Visual Basic skills from a book.

Kerry Moorman

You are absolutely right there. But what I gathered from him is
that he is not at all interested in learning how to implement a
b-tree but to "just get things done" (VB-style). This will
eventually mean that he will be using the ->sort() function of
some class rather than implementing his own crap like a fawlty
bubblesort. So what he needs to do is learn how to begin
creating an app in which you hit a button and says "hello".
(Just double-click on the button and type MessageBox "Hello" or
something, rather than learning whole stuff about class
inheritance, complex event handling, etc...)