Bug in VS 2005 VB "Application Framework"?

[DJ Tuneman]

I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the project for
a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I didn't even notice
it until lately.

If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP just
prior to running the application, the application loads, shows the splash
screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item flashing orange.
If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all windows and try to start any
other program, the program loads fine. After some tests, I've realized that
this only happens when the "Application Framework" is enabled. I thought it
might be just something on my machine, but I tested it on my daughters
laptop and got the same results.

I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone aware
of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?

Thanks

DJ

[Cor Ligthert [MVP]]

DJ,

This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens with
them or solutions,

http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220

I hope this helps,

Cor

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..

I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the project
for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I didn't even
notice it until lately.

If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP just
prior to running the application, the application loads, shows the splash
screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item flashing
orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all windows and try to
start any other program, the program loads fine. After some tests, I've
realized that this only happens when the "Application Framework" is
enabled. I thought it might be just something on my machine, but I tested
it on my daughters laptop and got the same results.

I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone aware
of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?

Thanks

DJ

[DJ Tuneman]

Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to Microsoft.
This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct me to a place
where the answer will come the slowest.


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

DJ,

This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens with
them or solutions,

http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220

I hope this helps,

Cor

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..

I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the project
for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I didn't even
notice it until lately.

If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP just
prior to running the application, the application loads, shows the splash
screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item flashing
orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all windows and try to
start any other program, the program loads fine. After some tests, I've
realized that this only happens when the "Application Framework" is
enabled. I thought it might be just something on my machine, but I
tested it on my daughters laptop and got the same results.

I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?

Thanks

DJ

[CT]

DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help you,
albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for answers,
but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should indeed report
it as suggested. Someone else might have found a workaround and he or she
will then reply to your post, but slacking off Cor doesn't really incite
anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but
they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as recompiling
everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..

Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct me to
a place where the answer will come the slowest.


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

DJ,

This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens with
them or solutions,

http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220

I hope this helps,

Cor

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..

I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the project
for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I didn't
even notice it until lately.

If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP just
prior to running the application, the application loads, shows the
splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item
flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all windows
and try to start any other program, the program loads fine. After some
tests, I've realized that this only happens when the "Application
Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just something on my
machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and got the same
results.

I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?

Thanks

DJ

[DJ Tuneman]

"I don't think that wasn't called for?" Double negative. That actually
means it was called for, and in my opinion it truly was. Maybe you actually
agree with me and it was a "Freudian Slip"

I'm sure Cor was trying to help but its people like him who slow down this
type of forum by not giving actual answers to the questions given. If I
wanted to wait for Microsoft to answer, I would have gone there first.
Experienced programmers who have the answers are supposed to be the ones
answering the questions. I'd be willing to guess that Cor either works for
Microsoft in promoting their feedback site, or has no life and just likes to
hand out links to "other places".

Not all of us programmers are shy nerds with no social life. Sometimes you
will actually hear the brutally honest truth from someone. Deal with it.
God I miss the days of message boards on dial-up BBSes long before people
considered themselves internet police and coined the term "netiquette".

How many more replies of "off topic" conversation does it take these days to
get to the center of the tootsie pop?


"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:eI**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help
you, albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for
answers, but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should
indeed report it as suggested. Someone else might have found a workaround
and he or she will then reply to your post, but slacking off Cor doesn't
really incite anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work
but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as
recompiling everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..

Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct me
to a place where the answer will come the slowest.


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

DJ,

This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens
with them or solutions,

http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220

I hope this helps,

Cor

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..
I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the
project for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I
didn't even notice it until lately.

If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP just
prior to running the application, the application loads, shows the
splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item
flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all windows
and try to start any other program, the program loads fine. After some
tests, I've realized that this only happens when the "Application
Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just something on my
machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and got the same
results.

I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?

Thanks

DJ

[Robert Johnson]

And you really think this attitude will promote others to help you?

Robert

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8******************************@comcast.com. ..

"I don't think that wasn't called for?" Double negative. That actually
means it was called for, and in my opinion it truly was. Maybe you
actually agree with me and it was a "Freudian Slip"

I'm sure Cor was trying to help but its people like him who slow down this
type of forum by not giving actual answers to the questions given. If I
wanted to wait for Microsoft to answer, I would have gone there first.
Experienced programmers who have the answers are supposed to be the ones
answering the questions. I'd be willing to guess that Cor either works
for Microsoft in promoting their feedback site, or has no life and just
likes to hand out links to "other places".

Not all of us programmers are shy nerds with no social life. Sometimes
you will actually hear the brutally honest truth from someone. Deal with
it. God I miss the days of message boards on dial-up BBSes long before
people considered themselves internet police and coined the term
"netiquette".

How many more replies of "off topic" conversation does it take these days
to get to the center of the tootsie pop?


"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:eI**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help
you, albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for
answers, but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should
indeed report it as suggested. Someone else might have found a workaround
and he or she will then reply to your post, but slacking off Cor doesn't
really incite anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work
but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as
recompiling everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..

Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct me
to a place where the answer will come the slowest.


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
DJ,

This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens
with them or solutions,

http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220

I hope this helps,

Cor

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..
> I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the
> project for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I
> didn't even notice it until lately.
>
> If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP
> just prior to running the application, the application loads, shows
> the splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item
> flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all windows
> and try to start any other program, the program loads fine. After
> some tests, I've realized that this only happens when the "Application
> Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just something on my
> machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and got the same
> results.
>
> I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
> aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?
>
> Thanks
>
> DJ
>
>
>

[DJ Tuneman]

No, I gave up on that and found the answer elsewhere, but it needed to be
said because with the premise that you have to only say "nice" things in
here, it leads to a situation where the idiots are never being told they're
idiots. Someone's got to do it or we'll end up with a world full of
politically correct "nice" people who have no clue when their being stupid.
Forums we're designed to enlighten people with knowledge, not a test of how
nice you are. The beauty of democracy is that you won't always like what
you hear and it makes you a stronger person because of it. I in fact did
enlighten him with the knowledge of how not to insult peoples intelligence
and to step aside when you don't actually know the answer. If I had to be
constrained by the rule of "niceness", that could have never been
accomplished. Yes, you can be like a politician and always say things in a
nice way but it never really communicates how you truly felt.

God bless honesty. Let's not forget it's root word "honor". There is no
honor in not being honest. People seem to forget that these days. In an
industry that's about 90% males, it's amazing how there's a lack of balls.
The term "nerd" doesn't come from the fact that you're good with computers,
it comes form the fact that most of you are complete wimps. These types of
replies you're giving only solidify that image.



"Robert Johnson" <jo*******@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e6**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

And you really think this attitude will promote others to help you?

Robert

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8******************************@comcast.com. ..

"I don't think that wasn't called for?" Double negative. That actually
means it was called for, and in my opinion it truly was. Maybe you
actually agree with me and it was a "Freudian Slip"

I'm sure Cor was trying to help but its people like him who slow down
this type of forum by not giving actual answers to the questions given.
If I wanted to wait for Microsoft to answer, I would have gone there
first. Experienced programmers who have the answers are supposed to be
the ones answering the questions. I'd be willing to guess that Cor
either works for Microsoft in promoting their feedback site, or has no
life and just likes to hand out links to "other places".

Not all of us programmers are shy nerds with no social life. Sometimes
you will actually hear the brutally honest truth from someone. Deal with
it. God I miss the days of message boards on dial-up BBSes long before
people considered themselves internet police and coined the term
"netiquette".

How many more replies of "off topic" conversation does it take these days
to get to the center of the tootsie pop?


"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:eI**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help
you, albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for
answers, but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should
indeed report it as suggested. Someone else might have found a
workaround and he or she will then reply to your post, but slacking off
Cor doesn't really incite anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work
but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as
recompiling everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..
Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct me
to a place where the answer will come the slowest.


"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> DJ,
>
> This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens
> with them or solutions,
>
> http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220
>
> I hope this helps,
>
> Cor
>
> "DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
> news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..
>> I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the
>> project for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I
>> didn't even notice it until lately.
>>
>> If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP
>> just prior to running the application, the application loads, shows
>> the splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item
>> flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all
>> windows and try to start any other program, the program loads fine.
>> After some tests, I've realized that this only happens when the
>> "Application Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just
>> something on my machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and
>> got the same results.
>>
>> I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
>> aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> DJ
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Bob]

Hey , Just glad you found the answer. I get frustrated too with Ms bs. But
anyways, how about sharing newly acquired knowledge with us DJ?

Bob
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ru******************************@comcast.com. ..

No, I gave up on that and found the answer elsewhere, but it needed to be
said because with the premise that you have to only say "nice" things in
here, it leads to a situation where the idiots are never being told
they're idiots. Someone's got to do it or we'll end up with a world full
of politically correct "nice" people who have no clue when their being
stupid. Forums we're designed to enlighten people with knowledge, not a
test of how nice you are. The beauty of democracy is that you won't
always like what you hear and it makes you a stronger person because of
it. I in fact did enlighten him with the knowledge of how not to insult
peoples intelligence and to step aside when you don't actually know the
answer. If I had to be constrained by the rule of "niceness", that could
have never been accomplished. Yes, you can be like a politician and
always say things in a nice way but it never really communicates how you
truly felt.

God bless honesty. Let's not forget it's root word "honor". There is no
honor in not being honest. People seem to forget that these days. In an
industry that's about 90% males, it's amazing how there's a lack of balls.
The term "nerd" doesn't come from the fact that you're good with
computers, it comes form the fact that most of you are complete wimps.
These types of replies you're giving only solidify that image.



"Robert Johnson" <jo*******@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e6**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

And you really think this attitude will promote others to help you?

Robert

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8******************************@comcast.com. ..

"I don't think that wasn't called for?" Double negative. That actually
means it was called for, and in my opinion it truly was. Maybe you
actually agree with me and it was a "Freudian Slip"

I'm sure Cor was trying to help but its people like him who slow down
this type of forum by not giving actual answers to the questions given.
If I wanted to wait for Microsoft to answer, I would have gone there
first. Experienced programmers who have the answers are supposed to be
the ones answering the questions. I'd be willing to guess that Cor
either works for Microsoft in promoting their feedback site, or has no
life and just likes to hand out links to "other places".

Not all of us programmers are shy nerds with no social life. Sometimes
you will actually hear the brutally honest truth from someone. Deal
with it. God I miss the days of message boards on dial-up BBSes long
before people considered themselves internet police and coined the term
"netiquette".

How many more replies of "off topic" conversation does it take these
days to get to the center of the tootsie pop?


"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:eI**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help
you, albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for
answers, but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should
indeed report it as suggested. Someone else might have found a
workaround and he or she will then reply to your post, but slacking off
Cor doesn't really incite anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work
but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as
recompiling everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..
> Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
> Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct
> me to a place where the answer will come the slowest.
>
>
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> DJ,
>>
>> This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens
>> with them or solutions,
>>
>> http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220
>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Cor
>>
>> "DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..
>>> I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the
>>> project for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and
>>> I didn't even notice it until lately.
>>>
>>> If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP
>>> just prior to running the application, the application loads, shows
>>> the splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar
>>> item flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all
>>> windows and try to start any other program, the program loads fine.
>>> After some tests, I've realized that this only happens when the
>>> "Application Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just
>>> something on my machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and
>>> got the same results.
>>>
>>> I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
>>> aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> DJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Robert Johnson]

I don't know if I should laugh or cry over your reply.. you mister are a
piece of work.

Robert

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Ru******************************@comcast.com. ..

No, I gave up on that and found the answer elsewhere, but it needed to be
said because with the premise that you have to only say "nice" things in
here, it leads to a situation where the idiots are never being told
they're idiots. Someone's got to do it or we'll end up with a world full
of politically correct "nice" people who have no clue when their being
stupid. Forums we're designed to enlighten people with knowledge, not a
test of how nice you are. The beauty of democracy is that you won't
always like what you hear and it makes you a stronger person because of
it. I in fact did enlighten him with the knowledge of how not to insult
peoples intelligence and to step aside when you don't actually know the
answer. If I had to be constrained by the rule of "niceness", that could
have never been accomplished. Yes, you can be like a politician and
always say things in a nice way but it never really communicates how you
truly felt.

God bless honesty. Let's not forget it's root word "honor". There is no
honor in not being honest. People seem to forget that these days. In an
industry that's about 90% males, it's amazing how there's a lack of balls.
The term "nerd" doesn't come from the fact that you're good with
computers, it comes form the fact that most of you are complete wimps.
These types of replies you're giving only solidify that image.



"Robert Johnson" <jo*******@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e6**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

And you really think this attitude will promote others to help you?

Robert

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:J8******************************@comcast.com. ..

"I don't think that wasn't called for?" Double negative. That actually
means it was called for, and in my opinion it truly was. Maybe you
actually agree with me and it was a "Freudian Slip"

I'm sure Cor was trying to help but its people like him who slow down
this type of forum by not giving actual answers to the questions given.
If I wanted to wait for Microsoft to answer, I would have gone there
first. Experienced programmers who have the answers are supposed to be
the ones answering the questions. I'd be willing to guess that Cor
either works for Microsoft in promoting their feedback site, or has no
life and just likes to hand out links to "other places".

Not all of us programmers are shy nerds with no social life. Sometimes
you will actually hear the brutally honest truth from someone. Deal
with it. God I miss the days of message boards on dial-up BBSes long
before people considered themselves internet police and coined the term
"netiquette".

How many more replies of "off topic" conversation does it take these
days to get to the center of the tootsie pop?


"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:eI**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help
you, albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for
answers, but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should
indeed report it as suggested. Someone else might have found a
workaround and he or she will then reply to your post, but slacking off
Cor doesn't really incite anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work
but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as
recompiling everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
---------
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..
> Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
> Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct
> me to a place where the answer will come the slowest.
>
>
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> DJ,
>>
>> This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens
>> with them or solutions,
>>
>> http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220
>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Cor
>>
>> "DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..
>>> I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the
>>> project for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and
>>> I didn't even notice it until lately.
>>>
>>> If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP
>>> just prior to running the application, the application loads, shows
>>> the splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar
>>> item flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all
>>> windows and try to start any other program, the program loads fine.
>>> After some tests, I've realized that this only happens when the
>>> "Application Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just
>>> something on my machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and
>>> got the same results.
>>>
>>> I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone
>>> aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> DJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Peter Proost]

It's nice to be honest because there's nothing wrong with honesty, but being
honest in a rude way won't get you any honor. Because everyone can offend
someone else and if by your standards it makes me a nerd for not liking to
offend people just for the fun of it, well then you can call me a nerd. I
however always thought that it was called being polite and well mannered.

Just my thought.

--
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. (Rich Cook)
"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:Ru******************************@comcast.com. ..

No, I gave up on that and found the answer elsewhere, but it needed to be
said because with the premise that you have to only say "nice" things in
here, it leads to a situation where the idiots are never being told they're idiots. Someone's got to do it or we'll end up with a world full of
politically correct "nice" people who have no clue when their being stupid. Forums we're designed to enlighten people with knowledge, not a test of how nice you are. The beauty of democracy is that you won't always like what
you hear and it makes you a stronger person because of it. I in fact did
enlighten him with the knowledge of how not to insult peoples intelligence
and to step aside when you don't actually know the answer. If I had to be
constrained by the rule of "niceness", that could have never been
accomplished. Yes, you can be like a politician and always say things in a nice way but it never really communicates how you truly felt.

God bless honesty. Let's not forget it's root word "honor". There is no
honor in not being honest. People seem to forget that these days. In an
industry that's about 90% males, it's amazing how there's a lack of balls.
The term "nerd" doesn't come from the fact that you're good with computers, it comes form the fact that most of you are complete wimps. These types of replies you're giving only solidify that image.



"Robert Johnson" <jo*******@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e6**************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

And you really think this attitude will promote others to help you?

Robert

"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"I don't think that wasn't called for?" Double negative. That actually means it was called for, and in my opinion it truly was. Maybe you
actually agree with me and it was a "Freudian Slip"

I'm sure Cor was trying to help but its people like him who slow down
this type of forum by not giving actual answers to the questions given.
If I wanted to wait for Microsoft to answer, I would have gone there
first. Experienced programmers who have the answers are supposed to be
the ones answering the questions. I'd be willing to guess that Cor
either works for Microsoft in promoting their feedback site, or has no
life and just likes to hand out links to "other places".

Not all of us programmers are shy nerds with no social life. Sometimes
you will actually hear the brutally honest truth from someone. Deal with it. God I miss the days of message boards on dial-up BBSes long before
people considered themselves internet police and coined the term
"netiquette".

How many more replies of "off topic" conversation does it take these days to get to the center of the tootsie pop?


"CT" <ca******@spammersgoawayintegrasol.dk> wrote in message
news:eI**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
DJ,

I don't think that wasn't called for. Cor was genuinely trying to help
you, albeit not the way you were hoping for. This is indeed a place for answers, but if you feel there is a bug in the MS software, you should
indeed report it as suggested. Someone else might have found a
workaround and he or she will then reply to your post, but slacking off Cor doesn't really incite anyone else to help IMHO.

Just my $0.02 :-)

--
Carsten Thomsen
Communities - http://community.integratedsolutions.dk
---------
Voodoo Programming: Things programmers do that they know shouldn't work but they try anyway, and which sometimes actually work, such as
recompiling everything. (Karl Lehenbauer)
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"DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:TP******************************@comcast.com. ..
> Hope it helps? I don't think so. Any idiot can give me link to
> Microsoft. This is the place for answers, and all you did was direct me> to a place where the answer will come the slowest.
>
>
>
>
> "Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <no************@planet.nl> wrote in message
> news:OI**************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> DJ,
>>
>> This is the website to report bugs and you are attended what happens
>> with them or solutions,
>>
>> http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/co...ContentID=2220>>
>> I hope this helps,
>>
>> Cor
>>
>> "DJ Tuneman" <ru************@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
>> news:Qu******************************@comcast.com. ..
>>> I've noticed that if I enable the "Application Framework" in the
>>> project for a Windows app, there's a bug when the programs load and I>>> didn't even notice it until lately.
>>>
>>> If you click the "Show Desktop" icon on the task bar in Windows XP
>>> just prior to running the application, the application loads, shows
>>> the splash screen and then minimizes itself leaving the task bar item>>> flashing orange. If you use the "Show Desktop" to minimize all
>>> windows and try to start any other program, the program loads fine.
>>> After some tests, I've realized that this only happens when the
>>> "Application Framework" is enabled. I thought it might be just
>>> something on my machine, but I tested it on my daughters laptop and
>>> got the same results.
>>>
>>> I've search Microsofts site and even Googled it to no avail. Anyone>>> aware of this or is this old news? If so, what's the fix?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> DJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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