Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a
huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As
System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click
Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB)
NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing)
End Sub
Private Sub AxB()
Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply)
Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing,
Nothing)
Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted
For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString
Loop
C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult)
do other stuff with C
End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a
hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the
program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) -
is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The
threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then
returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix?
--
mark b 11 1320
Hello Mark ,,,
This aproach will only work on a MP system , you could possibly acomplish
what you want ( responsive gui ) by using threading and create the worker
threads as lower prio background threads
Ofcourse will this result in longer processing time ( takes longer before
you app is finished )
regards
Michel Posseth [MCP]
"mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BB**********************************@microsof t.com... Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) End Sub
Private Sub AxB() Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing, Nothing) Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString Loop C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) do other stuff with C End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) - is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix? -- mark b
The acronym MP is multiprocessor? If so, do you think dual core processors
can do it. I have considered the posibility that memory access is the problem
as my Matrix_multiply sub is multiplying arrays.
--
mark b
"m.posseth" wrote: Hello Mark ,,,
This aproach will only work on a MP system , you could possibly acomplish what you want ( responsive gui ) by using threading and create the worker threads as lower prio background threads
Ofcourse will this result in longer processing time ( takes longer before you app is finished )
regards
Michel Posseth [MCP] "mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BB**********************************@microsof t.com... Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) End Sub
Private Sub AxB() Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing, Nothing) Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString Loop C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) do other stuff with C End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) - is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix? -- mark b
The answer to both is yes ,
MP is multi processor system , and yes the multicore architecture that AMD
and Intel are now shipping ( where in my opinion the AMD implemetation is
far superior ) would perform as a true MP system and so solve this
bottleneck problem .
Although if it is the responsiveness you want then using the background
thread option might still be a good idea ( although the processing time
might take a lot longer )
regards
Michel Posseth [MCP]
"mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:64**********************************@microsof t.com... The acronym MP is multiprocessor? If so, do you think dual core processors can do it. I have considered the posibility that memory access is the problem as my Matrix_multiply sub is multiplying arrays.
-- mark b
"m.posseth" wrote:
Hello Mark ,,,
This aproach will only work on a MP system , you could possibly acomplish what you want ( responsive gui ) by using threading and create the worker threads as lower prio background threads
Ofcourse will this result in longer processing time ( takes longer before you app is finished )
regards
Michel Posseth [MCP] "mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:BB**********************************@microsof t.com... > Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI > while a > huge process takes place: > > (declare delegates) (A B and C all global) > > Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As > System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click > Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) > NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) > End Sub > > Private Sub AxB() > Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) > Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, > Nothing, > Nothing) > Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted > For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString > Loop > C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) > do other stuff with C > End Sub > > Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources > with > a > hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I > run > the > program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is > double(,) - > is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The > threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a > loop > then > returns a string. > > What's wrong? How fix? > -- > mark b
Mark,
The first thing I noticed was that you're accessing a Control on a
thread other than the one it was created on. This will cause
unpredictable problems on the 1.1 framework and an exception on the 2.0
framework. You need to use Control.Invoke to marshal the execution of
a delegate onto the UI thread so that you can access controls and forms
safely within that delegate.
Another thing I noticed is that you're spinning in a loop waiting for
the Matrix_Multiply method to complete. That will certainly consume a
lot of CPU time and make the UI somewhat unresponsive.
However, it doesn't appear that the UI would be completely unresponsive
since the UI thread isn't blocked by any of the code you posted.
Brian
mark wrote: Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) End Sub
Private Sub AxB() Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing, Nothing) Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString Loop C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) do other stuff with C End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) - is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix? -- mark b
Mark,
The keywords you have to look at for what you are doing are
Threading.thread.sleep(milliseconds) http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/d00bd51t.aspx
Queue class. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ons.queue.aspx
And for version 2005
Backgroundworker http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/c8dcext2.aspx
It will probably make your application a lot easier.
I hope this helps,
Cor
"mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:BB**********************************@microsof t.com... Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) End Sub
Private Sub AxB() Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing, Nothing) Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString Loop C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) do other stuff with C End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) - is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix? -- mark b
Brian
Re: accessing a Control on a thread other than the one it was created on
Do you mean the Button3 control?
--
mark b
"Brian Gideon" wrote: Mark,
The first thing I noticed was that you're accessing a Control on a thread other than the one it was created on. This will cause unpredictable problems on the 1.1 framework and an exception on the 2.0 framework. You need to use Control.Invoke to marshal the execution of a delegate onto the UI thread so that you can access controls and forms safely within that delegate.
Another thing I noticed is that you're spinning in a loop waiting for the Matrix_Multiply method to complete. That will certainly consume a lot of CPU time and make the UI somewhat unresponsive.
However, it doesn't appear that the UI would be completely unresponsive since the UI thread isn't blocked by any of the code you posted.
Brian
mark wrote: Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) End Sub
Private Sub AxB() Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing, Nothing) Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString Loop C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) do other stuff with C End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) - is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix? -- mark b
Cor,
Do I use the sleep function in the do loop to wait for
asyncresult.IsCompleted?
What do I do with Queue?
--
mark b
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" wrote: Mark,
The keywords you have to look at for what you are doing are
Threading.thread.sleep(milliseconds)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/d00bd51t.aspx
Queue class.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ons.queue.aspx
And for version 2005
Backgroundworker
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/c8dcext2.aspx
It will probably make your application a lot easier.
I hope this helps,
Cor
"mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht news:BB**********************************@microsof t.com... Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI while a huge process takes place:
(declare delegates) (A B and C all global)
Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) End Sub
Private Sub AxB() Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, Nothing, Nothing) Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString Loop C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) do other stuff with C End Sub
Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources with a hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I run the program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is double(,) - is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a loop then returns a string.
What's wrong? How fix? -- mark b
mark wrote: Brian
Re: accessing a Control on a thread other than the one it was created on
Do you mean the Button3 control?
Yes.
mark wrote: Cor,
Do I use the sleep function in the do loop to wait for asyncresult.IsCompleted?
You can use the IAsyncResult.AsyncWaitHandle.WaitOne method to block
the current thread until the asynchronous operation is complete. If
you want the current thread to be doing something then yes, you can use
the Thread.Sleep method to yield CPU time to other threads until
IAsyncResult.IsCompleted returns true. What do I do with Queue?
I'm not seeing how the Queue helps in your situation either.
Mark,
The Queu is the most easy collection class to pass information in
assynchronous situations.
You fill it at the bottom in thread B, C, etc and you get what is in the
queu (can be more) from the top in Thread A
Your other question in your reply is already answered by Brian,
I hope this gives an idea
Cor
"mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
news:F4**********************************@microsof t.com... Cor,
Do I use the sleep function in the do loop to wait for asyncresult.IsCompleted?
What do I do with Queue?
-- mark b
"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" wrote:
Mark,
The keywords you have to look at for what you are doing are
Threading.thread.sleep(milliseconds)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/d00bd51t.aspx
Queue class.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...ons.queue.aspx
And for version 2005
Backgroundworker
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/c8dcext2.aspx
It will probably make your application a lot easier.
I hope this helps,
Cor
"mark" <ma**@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht news:BB**********************************@microsof t.com... > Please consider the following thread setup intended to free-up the UI > while a > huge process takes place: > > (declare delegates) (A B and C all global) > > Private Sub AB_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As > System.EventArgs) Handles AB.Click > Dim NoArg1 As New NoArgs(AddressOf AxB) > NoArg1.BeginInvoke(Nothing, Nothing) > End Sub > > Private Sub AxB() > Dim mult As New TwoArgs(AddressOf solver.Matrix_Multiply) > Dim AsyncResult As IAsyncResult = mult.BeginInvoke(A, B, > Nothing, > Nothing) > Do Until AsyncResult.IsCompleted > For i = 1 To 1000000 : Next : Button3.Text = Rnd().ToString > Loop > C = mult.EndInvoke(AsyncResult) > do other stuff with C > End Sub > > Matrix_Multiply is the class solver and consumes 50% of CPU resources > with > a > hyperthreading P4. It is floating point arithmatic intensive. When I > run > the > program the UI is unavailable until the final C result - which is > double(,) - > is obtained. Button3.text initially shows activity but then stops. The > threading logic works fine with a local function that simply runs a > loop > then > returns a string. > > What's wrong? How fix? > -- > mark b
It looks like the Control.EndInvoke method will also block the thread.
--
mark b
"Brian Gideon" wrote: mark wrote: Cor,
Do I use the sleep function in the do loop to wait for asyncresult.IsCompleted?
You can use the IAsyncResult.AsyncWaitHandle.WaitOne method to block the current thread until the asynchronous operation is complete. If you want the current thread to be doing something then yes, you can use the Thread.Sleep method to yield CPU time to other threads until IAsyncResult.IsCompleted returns true.
What do I do with Queue?
I'm not seeing how the Queue helps in your situation either.
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