Purchasing Visual Studio 2005 confusion

[William LaMartin]

Does anyone know when we can actually purchase Visual Studio 2005
Professional or the upgrade and have it shipped immediately?

First Microsoft said that it would be released Nov. 17. When Nov 17th
rolled around, it may have been released, but still couldn't be found for
retail purchase--Amazon, for example, said it would be available on Nov. 28.

Well, today is Nov. 28 and Amazon does indeed say that you can purchase it
for $490--but it also says that it usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks.

At Microsoft you can purchase it for $549, but they say it is on backorder.

So it appears to me that you really cannot purchase it if purchase includes
taking delivery in less than a week.

[m.posseth]

Buy a MSDN subscription , and you get it inmediatly ( and lots more )

Michel Posseth

"William LaMartin" <la******@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eL**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Does anyone know when we can actually purchase Visual Studio 2005
Professional or the upgrade and have it shipped immediately?

First Microsoft said that it would be released Nov. 17. When Nov 17th
rolled around, it may have been released, but still couldn't be found for
retail purchase--Amazon, for example, said it would be available on Nov.
28.

Well, today is Nov. 28 and Amazon does indeed say that you can purchase it
for $490--but it also says that it usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks.

At Microsoft you can purchase it for $549, but they say it is on
backorder.

So it appears to me that you really cannot purchase it if purchase
includes taking delivery in less than a week.

[William LaMartin]

I don't need any on the extras. I did just purchase a new copy of Win XP Pro
for a computer I'm building, so that would have been free with a
subscription--but not enough to justify the extra cost of a subscription
over just an upgrade to VS 2005 Pro for $490

Now if Microsoft Office Professional 2003 came with the Professional
subscription, I would go for it. But to get office, you need one of the
Premium subscriptions, and that is a lot more money.
"m.posseth" <mi*****@nohausystems.nl> wrote in message
news:uP**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Buy a MSDN subscription , and you get it inmediatly ( and lots more )

Michel Posseth

"William LaMartin" <la******@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eL**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Does anyone know when we can actually purchase Visual Studio 2005
Professional or the upgrade and have it shipped immediately?

First Microsoft said that it would be released Nov. 17. When Nov 17th
rolled around, it may have been released, but still couldn't be found for
retail purchase--Amazon, for example, said it would be available on Nov.
28.

Well, today is Nov. 28 and Amazon does indeed say that you can purchase
it for $490--but it also says that it usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks.

At Microsoft you can purchase it for $549, but they say it is on
backorder.

So it appears to me that you really cannot purchase it if purchase
includes taking delivery in less than a week.

[Kent Briggs]

William LaMartin wrote:

Well, today is Nov. 28 and Amazon does indeed say that you can purchase it
for $490--but it also says that it usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks.

I noticed the same thing. I ordered my copy from Amazon last week and
paid for 2-day delivery thinking I'd have it by this Wednesday.
--
Kent Briggs, kb*****@spamcop.net
Briggs Softworks, http://www.briggsoft.com

[m.posseth]

Well you must not buy your MSDN version at Microsoft , buy it from a
reseller and you might have a much better deall

However fact is that a MSDN subscriber may use all software far before you
can buy it in the shops , this is also worth something as it gives you a
hughe advantage to the non subscribing concurency :-)

here it is on stock ( 4 day delivery )

http://shopping.zdnet.co.uk/shopping...255068p,00.htm

"William LaMartin" <la******@tampabay.rr.com> schreef in bericht
news:OM*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

I don't need any on the extras. I did just purchase a new copy of Win XP
Pro for a computer I'm building, so that would have been free with a
subscription--but not enough to justify the extra cost of a subscription
over just an upgrade to VS 2005 Pro for $490

Now if Microsoft Office Professional 2003 came with the Professional
subscription, I would go for it. But to get office, you need one of the
Premium subscriptions, and that is a lot more money.
"m.posseth" <mi*****@nohausystems.nl> wrote in message
news:uP**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Buy a MSDN subscription , and you get it inmediatly ( and lots more )

Michel Posseth

"William LaMartin" <la******@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:eL**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Does anyone know when we can actually purchase Visual Studio 2005
Professional or the upgrade and have it shipped immediately?

First Microsoft said that it would be released Nov. 17. When Nov 17th
rolled around, it may have been released, but still couldn't be found
for retail purchase--Amazon, for example, said it would be available on
Nov. 28.

Well, today is Nov. 28 and Amazon does indeed say that you can purchase
it for $490--but it also says that it usually ships in 4 to 5 weeks.

At Microsoft you can purchase it for $549, but they say it is on
backorder.

So it appears to me that you really cannot purchase it if purchase
includes taking delivery in less than a week.

[Kent Briggs]

Kent Briggs wrote:

I noticed the same thing. I ordered my copy from Amazon last week and
paid for 2-day delivery thinking I'd have it by this Wednesday.

Looks like December 27. Apparently it takes Microsoft 50 days to burn a
CD and throw it on a box:

11/28/2005 03:37:16PM Enter Session CUS (Kent Briggs)
11/28/2005 03:37:16PM Message Sent "Welcome to the
Microsoft Shop Personal Shopper Service"
11/28/2005 03:37:21PM Session Accepted CSR (Microsoft
Care Team)
11/28/2005 03:37:21PM Enter Session CSR (Microsoft
Care Team)
11/28/2005 03:37:21PM Message Sent CUS "When will
Visual Studio 2005 be available for sale, either online or in retail
stores?"
11/28/2005 03:37:25PM Message Sent CSR "Thank you
for your interest in Microsoft online. I would be happy to help you today."
11/28/2005 03:37:30PM Message Sent CSR "Hello Kent."
11/28/2005 03:37:40PM Message Sent CUS "hello"
11/28/2005 03:38:50PM Message Sent CSR "You can
order Visual Studio 2005 software from our website right now."
11/28/2005 03:39:13PM Message Sent CSR "I will
check the estimated ship date of this product. One moment please."
11/28/2005 03:39:22PM Message Sent CUS "it stills
says backorder, when will the stores have it?"
11/28/2005 03:40:31PM Message Sent CSR "Which
version of the software did you want Kent?"
11/28/2005 03:40:45PM Message Sent CUS "standard
upgrade"
11/28/2005 03:42:02PM Message Sent CSR "Ok, I will
see when the estimated ship date is. The estimated ship date will
likely be the same date the software is made available in retail stores."
11/28/2005 03:42:22PM Message Sent CUS "ok"
11/28/2005 03:44:50PM Message Sent CSR "The
estimated ship date is not until 12/27/05."
11/28/2005 03:44:57PM Message Sent CUS "yikes"
11/28/2005 03:45:00PM Message Sent CUS "ok, thanks"
11/28/2005 03:45:12PM Message Sent CSR "You are
very welcome."
11/28/2005 03:45:16PM Message Sent CSR "Thank you
for using Microsoft Online Chat."
11/28/2005 03:45:26PM Leave Session CSR (Microsoft
Care Team)
--
Kent Briggs, kb*****@spamcop.net
Briggs Softworks, http://www.briggsoft.com

[Sam Marrocco]

William,

I've been trying to get an accurate ship date since November. I've
spoken to MS, who told me (on Nov. 8) shipping was Dec. 1st. Every
vendor I've spoken to has said they would have it in a few days. They
are all guessing. Latest I heard from MS was Dec. 7th.

Yes, yes, everyone says "just buy MSDN", but for those of us that don't
want to spend the extra money, this is silly. If this product does not
ship until 2006 it will be ridiculous given it's name.

[William LaMartin]

The more you look into it, the worse it gets.

"Kent Briggs" <kb*****@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Kent Briggs wrote:

I noticed the same thing. I ordered my copy from Amazon last week and
paid for 2-day delivery thinking I'd have it by this Wednesday.

Looks like December 27. Apparently it takes Microsoft 50 days to burn a CD
and throw it on a box:

[Andrew Morecomb]

What makes it even more infuriating for me is that there is absolutely no
reason why a licence cannot be bought and the software downloaded the same
as an MSDN subscription (or any other software for that matter). Especially
given that MS are suppose to be embracing the internet (Yes I know they are
very very slow company these days).

I am having to un-install the Express Edition sand move back to the VS 2005
Beta 2, as the Express editions are a pile of doggy doo:-(, even for use as
stop gap while I get the Pro Version (if it ever ships)

I too do not want to buy an MSDN subscription. I had an MSDN subscription
for a year so have all the software I need for testing purposes already.

Come on MS Embrace the internet for once...

Andrew

"William LaMartin" <la******@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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The more you look into it, the worse it gets.

"Kent Briggs" <kb*****@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:Ht******************@tornado.texas.rr.com...

Kent Briggs wrote:

I noticed the same thing. I ordered my copy from Amazon last week and
paid for 2-day delivery thinking I'd have it by this Wednesday.

Looks like December 27. Apparently it takes Microsoft 50 days to burn a
CD and throw it on a box:

[Kent Briggs]

Kent Briggs wrote:

Kent Briggs wrote:

I noticed the same thing. I ordered my copy from Amazon last week and
paid for 2-day delivery thinking I'd have it by this Wednesday.

Looks like December 27.

Or not. Amazon just shipped my VS 2005 Standard. The Pro version still
says "4 to 5 weeks", however.
--
Kent Briggs, kb*****@spamcop.net
Briggs Softworks, http://www.briggsoft.com