History of "True"

[Abubakar]

Hi,
I want to know when was the True and False first included in Basic llanguage? Was it the work of Microsoft or some other company? And who decided the value of true to be -1?

Regards,

Abubakar.

[Anand[MVP]]

AFAIK, it has been there since VB3. And True has always been -1. The supposed logic was False had all bits 0 and True had all bits 1, which gives it an value -1.

Rgds,
Anand
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"Abubakar" wrote:

Hi,
I want to know when was the True and False first included in Basic llanguage? Was it the work of Microsoft or some other company? And who decided the value of true to be -1?

Regards,

Abubakar.

[Charles Law]

Hi Abubakar

There was a long (very long) thread on this subject not so long ago, which
you may wish to look up, but to summarise:

The definition of True arises from the definition of False. False is defined
as 0 (zero); no bits set. True is logically defined as Not False, i.e. the
direct opposite: all bits set. In signed arithmetic this is always -1.

HTH

Charles
"Abubakar" <Ab******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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Hi,
I want to know when was the True and False first included in Basic llanguage? Was it the work of Microsoft or some other company? And who
decided the value of true to be -1?
Regards,

Abubakar.

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "=?Utf-8?B?QWJ1YmFrYXI=?=" <Ab******@discussions.microsoft.com> scripsit:

I want to know when was the True and False first included in Basic
llanguage?
I don't know, but 'True' and 'False' can be seen as simple constants, so
it was not hard to add them to BASIC dialects that did not include them
and provided the possibility to define constants.
Was it the work of Microsoft or some other company? And who decided the
value of true to be -1?

'False' = 000...000 (16 bits set to 0), 'True' is, for example, the
binary complement (111...111) (16 bits set to 1). If you interpret the
111...111 with 'Int16' semantics (signed 16-bit integer), then its
value would be -1.

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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
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[Cor Ligthert]

Hi Abukar,

As far as I remember me where Basic programmers not the same as programming
language we know now. It was a kind of scripting which was forever
interpreted.

There was no need to compile, however a lot of companies have made compilers
for it, so I think it will be difficult to say where it started to use this
as it is now.

Cor

[Chris Dunaway]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:51:01 -0700, Abubakar wrote:

Hi,
I want to know when was the True and False first included in Basic llanguage? Was it the work of Microsoft or some other company? And who decided the value of true to be -1?

Regards,

Abubakar.

I know that in VB, True has evaluated to -1, but IMHO, True has only one
value: True

You should not use True as a numeric value.

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[Cor Ligthert]

Hi Chris,

You should not use True as a numeric value.

Are you sure this is true?

Could not resist do not take it serious?

:-)

Cor

[Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]]

* "Cor Ligthert" <no**********@planet.nl> scripsit:

You should not use True as a numeric value.

Are you sure this is true?

That's what
<URL:http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/vblr7/html/vadatboolean.asp>
is saying...

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