Missing? Class Library Template

[Ed Bitzer]

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New
Project window. Is this not part of Visual Basic .Net Standard? I am
running MS Development Environment 2003 Version 7.1.3088, MS .Net
Framework 1.1 Version 1.1.4322 with VB.Net the installed product. I
have several ASP templates which I can't used because I am running
XP-Home but certainly suspected that I could create Class Libraries.

Appreciate

[Brian Henry]

If i remember correctly standard doesn't let you make dll files? i think, I
can't remember I've been using enterprise edition the whole time...
"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New
Project window. Is this not part of Visual Basic .Net Standard? I am
running MS Development Environment 2003 Version 7.1.3088, MS .Net
Framework 1.1 Version 1.1.4322 with VB.Net the installed product. I
have several ASP templates which I can't used because I am running
XP-Home but certainly suspected that I could create Class Libraries.

Appreciate

[Ed Bitzer]

I fear you are correct; I searched the MSDN Developer Center reading
pages and pages and could not uncover. I tried to reinstall expecting
to see a feature list but there was nothing but VB.Net

I'm retired, got the copy via their free offer (should have
suspected<g>), bought a couple of books and decided to upgrade my brain
from VB5 to Net. Simply program for my own utilities so will have to
access just the extent of the hobble.
Ed

Brian Henry wrote:

If i remember correctly standard doesn't let you make dll files? i think, I
can't remember I've been using enterprise edition the whole time...

[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

Yes this is confirmed, Baisc does not allow this functionality. And frankly
I'm suprised that it doesent, it seems a bit petty to leave it out really.

--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

I fear you are correct; I searched the MSDN Developer Center reading
pages and pages and could not uncover. I tried to reinstall expecting
to see a feature list but there was nothing but VB.Net

I'm retired, got the copy via their free offer (should have
suspected<g>), bought a couple of books and decided to upgrade my brain
from VB5 to Net. Simply program for my own utilities so will have to
access just the extent of the hobble.
Ed

Brian Henry wrote:

If i remember correctly standard doesn't let you make dll files? i think, I can't remember I've been using enterprise edition the whole time...

[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

You really should also upgrade from XP Home to XP pro as well as upgrading
to the professional version of .NET, there are a few other features missing
from the Basic version.

You should look at buying the Microsoft Action Pack ( about 150 quid ) this
not only has the XP pro but also has a heap of other software ( Sadly no
developer products ) which are quite useful.
--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

I fear you are correct; I searched the MSDN Developer Center reading
pages and pages and could not uncover. I tried to reinstall expecting
to see a feature list but there was nothing but VB.Net

I'm retired, got the copy via their free offer (should have
suspected<g>), bought a couple of books and decided to upgrade my brain
from VB5 to Net. Simply program for my own utilities so will have to
access just the extent of the hobble.
Ed

Brian Henry wrote:

If i remember correctly standard doesn't let you make dll files? i think, I can't remember I've been using enterprise edition the whole time...

[Frank]

Yes, standard version does not give u the option to make DLL's. But before u
buy the prof version (some $600 extra!): the only thing u have to change to
make it work is this:
in the vbproj file change
OutputType = "WinExe"
to
OutputType = "Library"

and voila, a DLL is created. I'm using it without any problem and my DLL's
work fine.
Frank
"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New
Project window. Is this not part of Visual Basic .Net Standard? I am
running MS Development Environment 2003 Version 7.1.3088, MS .Net
Framework 1.1 Version 1.1.4322 with VB.Net the installed product. I
have several ASP templates which I can't used because I am running
XP-Home but certainly suspected that I could create Class Libraries.

Appreciate

[Ed Bitzer]

Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many
quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in
prospective) is a bit steep. I will however continue forward and
discipline myself to use the "Add Class" tool to effectively gain the
advantages of encapsulation.

Ed

One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns ) wrote:

You really should also upgrade from XP Home to XP pro as well as upgrading
to the professional version of .NET, there are a few other features missing
from the Basic version.

You should look at buying the Microsoft Action Pack ( about 150 quid ) this
not only has the XP pro but also has a heap of other software ( Sadly no
developer products ) which are quite useful.

[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

I hear ya,

Its just less intuative working like that , personally,I would rather spend
the 600USD.

But thats me :)
--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"Frank" <fr***@frank.com> wrote in message
news:cc**********@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...

Yes, standard version does not give u the option to make DLL's. But before u buy the prof version (some $600 extra!): the only thing u have to change to make it work is this:
in the vbproj file change
OutputType = "WinExe"
to
OutputType = "Library"

and voila, a DLL is created. I'm using it without any problem and my DLL's
work fine.
Frank
"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New
Project window. Is this not part of Visual Basic .Net Standard? I am
running MS Development Environment 2003 Version 7.1.3088, MS .Net
Framework 1.1 Version 1.1.4322 with VB.Net the installed product. I
have several ASP templates which I can't used because I am running
XP-Home but certainly suspected that I could create Class Libraries.

Appreciate

[Chris Dunaway]

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many
quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in

You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products.
They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be inexpensive.
Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what
you need.

Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary
system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a crown,
etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
somewhere. I am just curious.

Cheers

--
Chris

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[Chris Dunaway]

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:27:09 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New

I posted above before I saw the thread. But check out the Express version
of VB.Net that Microsoft is offering. You can download it now in beta for
free. As I understand it is designed for the hobbyist programmer and
supports the creation of Class Libraries. It might be what you need.

--
Chris

dunawayc[AT]sbcglobal_lunchmeat_[DOT]net

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[md]

Don't mean to but in, but in England (I didn't catch where the original
poster was from) they use the word quid the same way we use bucks for
dollars. It's just slang for a pound. The shilling and crown are old english
money before they went to decimal money (with cents [pence]). I *think* a
shilling is something like 1/12th of a pound or something like that.

Matt

"Chris Dunaway" <"dunawayc[[at]_lunchmeat_sbcglobal[dot]]net"> wrote in
message news:18*****************************@40tude.net...

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many
quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in
You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products.
They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be

inexpensive. Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what
you need.

Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary
system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a crown,
etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
somewhere. I am just curious.

Cheers

--
Chris

dunawayc[AT]sbcglobal_lunchmeat_[DOT]net

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[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

Abso Ding Dang DiddleOOdly

We do indeed. Quid is the first major Note. We also have fivers and
tenners etc as you do. Mind you our original Major note was a 'Ten Bob
Note", this meant ten shillings or half a quid."

Other slang sayings are

Bob="Shilling or Five new pence"
Tanner = Sixpence or 2.5 New Pence.
Monkey = £500 (Quid)
Poney = £25 (Quid)
Squid = (Quid)
Plum = £100
Score = £20
Sovs = Short For Sovereigns loosely translated to Pound ( monetory value not
the same, was very old coin )
Shrapnel = ( Loose Change )

HTH

--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"md" <so*****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Don't mean to but in, but in England (I didn't catch where the original
poster was from) they use the word quid the same way we use bucks for
dollars. It's just slang for a pound. The shilling and crown are old english money before they went to decimal money (with cents [pence]). I *think* a
shilling is something like 1/12th of a pound or something like that.

Matt

"Chris Dunaway" <"dunawayc[[at]_lunchmeat_sbcglobal[dot]]net"> wrote in
message news:18*****************************@40tude.net...

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many
quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in

You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products.
They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be

inexpensive.

Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what
you need.

Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary
system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a crown, etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
somewhere. I am just curious.

Cheers

--
Chris

dunawayc[AT]sbcglobal_lunchmeat_[DOT]net

To send me an E-mail, remove the "[", "]", underscores ,lunchmeat, and
replace certain words in my E-Mail address.

[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

Well, Ive been working with the Alpha version of VS2005, I have not yet seen
the Beta Version so I cant comment on it's stability, but I really hope its
'A LOT' better than Alpha.

It depends if the OP is willing to chase his bugs as well as MS bugs, for me
personally, I would simply buy the professional version and upgrade when the
time comes.

Mind you, I will say, from a feature point of view, it's looking good.
--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"Chris Dunaway" <"dunawayc[[at]_lunchmeat_sbcglobal[dot]]net"> wrote in
message news:1t*****************************@40tude.net...

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:27:09 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New

I posted above before I saw the thread. But check out the Express version
of VB.Net that Microsoft is offering. You can download it now in beta for
free. As I understand it is designed for the hobbyist programmer and
supports the creation of Class Libraries. It might be what you need.

--
Chris

dunawayc[AT]sbcglobal_lunchmeat_[DOT]net

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replace certain words in my E-Mail address.

[Ed Bitzer]

Thanks Chris - will check out Express; had seen reference but never
checked thoroughly.

I am in and from the US. Terry introduced the Quid and to convert I
checked out the following site - it is a lot of beer:
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch...ons/money.html

Ed

Chris Dunaway wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many
quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in

You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products.
They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be inexpensive.
Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what
you need.

Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary
system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a crown,
etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
somewhere. I am just curious.

Cheers

[Ed Bitzer]

Great - will certainly try this. My VB5 experience was not broad. I have
to admit not too much of .net is "intuitive" so making this change to a
file sure does not bother me.

Ed

rank wrote:

Yes, standard version does not give u the option to make DLL's. But before u
buy the prof version (some $600 extra!): the only thing u have to change to
make it work is this:
in the vbproj file change
OutputType = "WinExe"
to
OutputType = "Library"

and voila, a DLL is created. I'm using it without any problem and my DLL's
work fine.
Frank
"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

I apologize for this obvious neophyte question but why do I not see the
templates for Class Library and Windows Control Library in my New
Project window. Is this not part of Visual Basic .Net Standard? I am
running MS Development Environment 2003 Version 7.1.3088, MS .Net
Framework 1.1 Version 1.1.4322 with VB.Net the installed product. I
have several ASP templates which I can't used because I am running
XP-Home but certainly suspected that I could create Class Libraries.

Appreciate

[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

BTW, the Quid was our first major note, now its a Fiver, sorry, I must be
getting old :)

--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"Ed Bitzer" <ed******@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Thanks Chris - will check out Express; had seen reference but never
checked thoroughly.

I am in and from the US. Terry introduced the Quid and to convert I
checked out the following site - it is a lot of beer:
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch...ons/money.html

Ed

Chris Dunaway wrote:

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many
quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in

You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products.
They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be inexpensive. Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what
you need.

Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary
system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a crown, etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
somewhere. I am just curious.

Cheers

[The Grim Reaper]

Thank you for making me feel young again :D I'm 25, and bearly remember a
shilling being 10 pence??
I have no clue what a crown was!!
While we're on the subject... anyone know where Pieces of Eight derived
from!?!?
_______________________________
The Grim Reaper

"One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns )" <news.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OB**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Abso Ding Dang DiddleOOdly

We do indeed. Quid is the first major Note. We also have fivers and
tenners etc as you do. Mind you our original Major note was a 'Ten Bob
Note", this meant ten shillings or half a quid."

Other slang sayings are

Bob="Shilling or Five new pence"
Tanner = Sixpence or 2.5 New Pence.
Monkey = £500 (Quid)
Poney = £25 (Quid)
Squid = (Quid)
Plum = £100
Score = £20
Sovs = Short For Sovereigns loosely translated to Pound ( monetory value not the same, was very old coin )
Shrapnel = ( Loose Change )

HTH

--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"md" <so*****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Don't mean to but in, but in England (I didn't catch where the original
poster was from) they use the word quid the same way we use bucks for
dollars. It's just slang for a pound. The shilling and crown are old

english

money before they went to decimal money (with cents [pence]). I *think* a

shilling is something like 1/12th of a pound or something like that.

Matt

"Chris Dunaway" <"dunawayc[[at]_lunchmeat_sbcglobal[dot]]net"> wrote in
message news:18*****************************@40tude.net...

On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:

> Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that many > quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in

You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products.
They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be

inexpensive.

Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what you need.

Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a

crown, etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
somewhere. I am just curious.

Cheers

--
Chris

dunawayc[AT]sbcglobal_lunchmeat_[DOT]net

To send me an E-mail, remove the "[", "]", underscores ,lunchmeat, and
replace certain words in my E-Mail address.

[One Handed Man \( OHM - Terry Burns \)]

I was seven when decimal currency came in, so I just about remember playing
with threepence peices and sixpences.

Still, I feel incredebly old even at that !

--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"The Grim Reaper" <gr*********@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:cc**********@sparta.btinternet.com...

Thank you for making me feel young again :D I'm 25, and bearly remember a
shilling being 10 pence??
I have no clue what a crown was!!
While we're on the subject... anyone know where Pieces of Eight derived
from!?!?
_______________________________
The Grim Reaper

"One Handed Man ( OHM - Terry Burns )" <news.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:OB**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Abso Ding Dang DiddleOOdly

We do indeed. Quid is the first major Note. We also have fivers and
tenners etc as you do. Mind you our original Major note was a 'Ten Bob
Note", this meant ten shillings or half a quid."

Other slang sayings are

Bob="Shilling or Five new pence"
Tanner = Sixpence or 2.5 New Pence.
Monkey = £500 (Quid)
Poney = £25 (Quid)
Squid = (Quid)
Plum = £100
Score = £20
Sovs = Short For Sovereigns loosely translated to Pound ( monetory value not

the same, was very old coin )
Shrapnel = ( Loose Change )

HTH

--

OHM ( Terry Burns )
. . . One-Handed-Man . . .

Time flies when you don't know what you're doing

"md" <so*****@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Don't mean to but in, but in England (I didn't catch where the original poster was from) they use the word quid the same way we use bucks for
dollars. It's just slang for a pound. The shilling and crown are old

english

money before they went to decimal money (with cents [pence]). I *think* a

shilling is something like 1/12th of a pound or something like that.

Matt

"Chris Dunaway" <"dunawayc[[at]_lunchmeat_sbcglobal[dot]]net"> wrote

in message news:18*****************************@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 06:04:00 -0400, Ed Bitzer wrote:
>
> > Thanks Terry, As noted programming as a hobby and retired, that

many > > quid (which I converted to dollars and then cases of beer to put in >
> You should go to the VS2005 site and check out the "Express" products. > They are designed for hobbyist programmers and I think will be
inexpensive.
> Plus, VB Express allows you to create class libraries. It might be what > you need.
>
> Off Topic: Being from the US, I don't know anything about your monetary > system. Could you explain what a quid is? and also a shilling, a

crown,

> etc? I have always wondered but have been too lazy to look it up
> somewhere. I am just curious.
>
> Cheers
>
> --
> Chris
>
> dunawayc[AT]sbcglobal_lunchmeat_[DOT]net
>
> To send me an E-mail, remove the "[", "]", underscores ,lunchmeat, and > replace certain words in my E-Mail address.