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VB.NET, you must be desperate if you use it

Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs,
good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...

Nov 20 '05 #1
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Oh hell, I'll bite...

And what appears to be your problem peter?

-CJ
"Peter" <pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:%d*******************@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs, good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...


Nov 20 '05 #2

"Peter" <pe****@mail.net> wrote in message news:%d*******************@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs,
My last one is 48k, and thats the debug version
good luck with the distribution of your applications,
they are not any harder to distribute than a VB6 app?
good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!
Umm, you do reallize that every single version of VB so far has had a new runtime to go along with
it? If they released a VB7 version of VB, it would have a VB7 runtime. Not much different
really.

Some people never learn...


Some people will never understand......

Nov 20 '05 #3

"Rick Mogstad" <ri**@NOSPAM.computetosuit.com> wrote in message
news:On*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

"Peter" <pe****@mail.net> wrote in message news:%d*******************@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+

programs,
My last one is 48k, and thats the debug version
good luck with the distribution of your applications,
they are not any harder to distribute than a VB6 app?
good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!


Umm, you do reallize that every single version of VB so far has had a new

runtime to go along with it? If they released a VB7 version of VB, it would have a VB7 runtime. Not much different really.

Some people never learn...


Some people will never understand......


this is a true statement...

Nov 20 '05 #4
* "Peter" <pe****@mail.net> scripsit:
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs,
good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...


Go back to the Java groups.

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
Nov 20 '05 #5
I definitely know your frustration.
Microsoft doesn't seem to be to dedicated to keeping their stuff--whatever
you learn can be
gone in minutes with them.

Vb.net is a great improvement in many ways. The runtime is aggravating in
one way but
all Windows systems will soon have it anyway.. so no big deal.

Also, this make programs pretty small.

And distributing patches by just sending a new .EXE--no setup...
is wonderful!

I don't think they will kill the old framework when they put out a new one.
That would be stupid! If they do then we will all have to look for new
lanugages, OS's etc, from people who actually care about their developers.
I really doubt they will do that. There are so many classes, what would
they need to change?

Add a few things maybe (definitely) that still require API calls..
that's all I can imagine.

Shane

"Peter" <pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:%d*******************@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs, good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...


Nov 20 '05 #6
LOL!

SPLITTER!

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi***************@gmx.at> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
* "Peter" <pe****@mail.net> scripsit:
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs, good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...


Go back to the Java groups.

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>

Nov 20 '05 #7
Why, THANK YOU !! I appreciate all your good wishes. But, most of my
programs are far smaller than 21MB. That is except if you are counting the
..NET Framework install. Which, after the first time it is installed, is no
problem. Then all my programs attached to that particular version of the
framework, are really quite small.
And I am looking forward to the NEXT version of the Framework. More
functionality and much better for me and my users. And you are correct, some
people never learn.......................
And it sounds like you never will with your apparent attitude.
james

"Peter" <pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:%d*******************@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs, good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...


Nov 20 '05 #8
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP] wrote:
* "Peter" <pe****@mail.net> scripsit:
Good luck learning quite a new language, good luck with your 21MB+ programs,
good luck with the distribution of your applications, good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!

Some people never learn...

Go back to the Java groups.

*sigh*
Nov 20 '05 #9
I must be desperate, because I'm lovin .NET, especially the more I use
it.

Try distributing and setting up a Progress application, if you want to
have some fun.

*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***
Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!
Nov 20 '05 #10
My last one is 48k, and thats the debug version
Funny how people ignore runtimes and framework...
good luck with the distribution of your applications,


they are not any harder to distribute than a VB6 app?


No, not harder, just as hard

good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!


Umm, you do reallize that every single version of VB so far has had a new

runtime to go along with it? If they released a VB7 version of VB, it would have a VB7 runtime. Not much different really.


No, not much difference, just the same problems.
Every thought of having several customers to program for... I guess not
Some people never learn...


Some people will never understand......


....why people never learn
Nov 20 '05 #11
Some people never learn...


Go back to the Java groups.


I feel sorry for you to think that Java is a language LOL

But then again, you have that same confusion with VB
Nov 20 '05 #12
Do you really think that all the retailers in your town care if it's vb or
vb.net???

Some of them have a web page and some database and office software and
that's it. The world is not just about big multinationals you know....

It's the .NET is don't get.

But hey, if you wanna follow the leader all the time, go ahead
Nov 20 '05 #13
Another example; I can write programs that work on every operating system I
want and that are incredible small and are only one exe, no runtimes needed,
no frameworks. That gives me enormous flexibility!

vb.net is nice for some things, but be honest... do you really want to base
all of your business administration on VB.NET? LOL

You're funny!

Nov 20 '05 #14
* "Peter" <Pe****@mail.net> scripsit:
Some people never learn...


Go back to the Java groups.


I feel sorry for you to think that Java is a language LOL

But then again, you have that same confusion with VB


Sorry, why is a .NET Framework "confusing"?!

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
Nov 20 '05 #15
This is bordering stupidity...

You can write programs that work on every operating system and that work on
every operating system and only use one exe eh?

You realize that nullify's your entire argument of being a super being of
programming? Only one major operating system vendor uses the exe format...

Microsoft...

Hmmmm.... I dunno, I don't hold much credibilty to your business knowledge.

-CJ

"Peter" <Pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:kw*****************@news20.bellglobal.com...
Another example; I can write programs that work on every operating system I want and that are incredible small and are only one exe, no runtimes needed, no frameworks. That gives me enormous flexibility!

vb.net is nice for some things, but be honest... do you really want to base all of your business administration on VB.NET? LOL

You're funny!

Nov 20 '05 #16
Waiting with baited breathe for the revalation of the most supreme language
on the planet.

Is it REXX?
"Peter" <Pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:De*****************@news20.bellglobal.com...
Some people never learn...


Go back to the Java groups.


I feel sorry for you to think that Java is a language LOL

But then again, you have that same confusion with VB

Nov 20 '05 #17

"Peter" <Pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:dd*****************@news20.bellglobal.com...
My last one is 48k, and thats the debug version
Funny how people ignore runtimes and framework...


Don't forget the operating system. Don't want a requirement as important as
that...
good luck with the distribution of your applications,
they are not any harder to distribute than a VB6 app?


No, not harder, just as hard


Yes...those wizards are a real bit**...
good luck when
Microsoft releases another new version of Framework!
Umm, you do reallize that every single version of VB so far has had a new runtime to go along with
it? If they released a VB7 version of VB, it would have a VB7 runtime. Not much different
really.


No, not much difference, just the same problems.
Every thought of having several customers to program for... I guess not


Of course we never thought of it.. The customer doesn't know what they want,
you can ask any programmer that.
Some people never learn...


Some people will never understand......


...why people never learn


.... insert incessent rhetoric comment here... [don't forget elipses to
further prove your superior intellect]

....

....

...
..
....
..

Nov 20 '05 #18

"Peter" <Pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:6t*****************@news20.bellglobal.com...
Do you really think that all the retailers in your town care if it's vb or
vb.net???
Yes, my software is such a hot "local item". We have our own seal that we
put on our non-existant "packageing" called "Illinois Grown", people see
that and are like "Well, we have to get that... it's written in Illinois."

Some of them have a web page and some database and office software and
that's it. The world is not just about big multinationals you know....

Well... the people with all the money are...
It's the .NET is don't get.

Oh, this must be some incredibly deep statement that only ye of super genius
sense and magic will get eh? Please enlighten us all on the mystifying
views of why you don't "get" .NET.

But hey, if you wanna follow the leader all the time, go ahead

Well... It doesn't seem very wise to follow the guy "not winning", now does
it?

Nov 20 '05 #19
CJ and everybody else... we have had so few trolls in this newsgroup. If
you feed them they will return. The only thing that has a hope of working
is to ignore them. Don't disagree, don't agree, it just doesn't matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
"CJ Taylor" <yo**************@itsoneverylistintheworld.com> wrote...
This is bordering stupidity...

Nov 20 '05 #20
Whoops.. take out one of the work with every operating system... The phone
rang in the middle of a thought... what is one to do...
"CJ Taylor" <yo**************@itsoneverylistintheworld.com> wrote in message
news:WsWXb.329893$na.487086@attbi_s04...
This is bordering stupidity...

You can write programs that work on every operating system and that work on every operating system and only use one exe eh?

You realize that nullify's your entire argument of being a super being of
programming? Only one major operating system vendor uses the exe format...
Microsoft...

Hmmmm.... I dunno, I don't hold much credibilty to your business knowledge.
-CJ

"Peter" <Pe****@mail.net> wrote in message
news:kw*****************@news20.bellglobal.com...
Another example; I can write programs that work on every operating
system I
want and that are incredible small and are only one exe, no runtimes

needed,
no frameworks. That gives me enormous flexibility!

vb.net is nice for some things, but be honest... do you really want to

base
all of your business administration on VB.NET? LOL

You're funny!


Nov 20 '05 #21
Tom,

* "Tom Leylan" <ge*@iamtiredofspam.com> scripsit:
CJ and everybody else... we have had so few trolls in this newsgroup. If
you feed them they will return. The only thing that has a hope of working
is to ignore them. Don't disagree, don't agree, it just doesn't matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll


Thank you for posting the link.

In other words:

"
Dilbert's words of wisdom #18: Never argue with an idiot.
They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
"

--
Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]
<http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
Nov 20 '05 #22

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