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Hi

Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb features we
can expect?

Thanks

Regards
Nov 20 '05 #1
20 1389
Nak
> Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb features
we
can expect?


Hi there,

I believe it it's codename is "Project rip-off" and it will include
features such as

* Automatic programming, just say what you want through your pc
microphone
* MSDN code archiving, backups up all of your source code to MSDN
automatically (this feature cannot be disabled)
* Bodge plug-ins, implement those bodges quicker than ever. With just a
few mouse clicks your apps will never have run so well.
* Huge memory leaks
* Strange bugs when strong naming that results in VB loosing an snk
file. The only resolve is to restart VB
* Enhanced common control bugs

And a host of other exciting new features!!!

j/k I couldn't resist!!! ;-)

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Nov 20 '05 #2
Hello,

"John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> schrieb:
Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new
vb features we can expect?


Microsoft Developer Tools Roadmap 2003-2005
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...o/roadmap.aspx

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #3
Hi Guys,
Am I the only one who thinks Nak provided the correct list? :)
Cheers,
Christian

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> wrote in message
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Hello,

"John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> schrieb:
Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new
vb features we can expect?


Microsoft Developer Tools Roadmap 2003-2005
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...o/roadmap.aspx

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet

Nov 20 '05 #4
Yes.

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"Christian Blackburn" <Christian@Damn@Sp**@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: Hi Guys,
: Am I the only one who thinks Nak provided the correct list? :)
: Cheers,
: Christian
:
:
:
: "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> wrote in message
: news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: > Hello,
: >
: > "John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> schrieb:
: > > Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new
: > > vb features we can expect?
: >
: > Microsoft Developer Tools Roadmap 2003-2005
: > http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/pr...o/roadmap.aspx
: >
: > --
: > Herfried K. Wagner
: > MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
: > http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
: >
: >
:
:
Nov 20 '05 #5
Hi John,

The next version of VS is codenamed Whidbey, I don't know when it's due out
but here are some links you may find interesting. The first one has a demo
of VB Whidbey given by Ari Bixhorn at VS Live, the second is a link to .NET
Rocks where you can find a recent interview with two members of the VB.NET
team.

http://www.ftponline.com/reports/vsliveny/2003/whidbey/
http://www.franklins.net/dotnetrocks.asp

--
Rob Windsor
G6 Consulting
Toronto, Canada

"John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Oi*************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi

Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb features we can expect?

Thanks

Regards

Nov 20 '05 #6
Thanks

Regards

"Rob Windsor" <rw******@NO.MORE.SPAM.bigfoot.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Hi John,

The next version of VS is codenamed Whidbey, I don't know when it's due out but here are some links you may find interesting. The first one has a demo
of VB Whidbey given by Ari Bixhorn at VS Live, the second is a link to ..NET Rocks where you can find a recent interview with two members of the VB.NET
team.

http://www.ftponline.com/reports/vsliveny/2003/whidbey/
http://www.franklins.net/dotnetrocks.asp

--
Rob Windsor
G6 Consulting
Toronto, Canada

"John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Oi*************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi

Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb features

we
can expect?

Thanks

Regards


Nov 20 '05 #7
Hi Nick,

Big time LOL :-))

|| * Automatic programming, just say what you want
|| through your pc microphone.

If that fails, try ms.public.dotnet.languages.vb - you don't even have to
form complete sentences.

|| * Huge memory leaks

Thanks - you keep reminding me - must go to the loo...

|| * Enhanced common control bugs

LOL

Regards,
Fergus

Nov 20 '05 #8
Cor
Hi Fergus
Happy to see a message from you
It was so empty
Cor
Nov 20 '05 #9
Hi Cor,

I've been away for a few days.

Nice to see you too :-))

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #10
Nak
> I've been away for a few days.

Nice to see you too :-))


Hi Fergy!!

;-)

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Nov 20 '05 #11
Nak
> http://www.ftponline.com/reports/vsliveny/2003/whidbey/

And comments and ridicule thus insued.

......

1. Now firstly I *was* only joking about the automatic sharing of code.
That makes me quite sick to think that Microsoft are exploiting, or at least
attempting to exploit VB programmers in such a way. I don't program with VB
because it is *easy* I program with it because I like the language, why are
they treating us like "spastic coders" that they feel we *need* these
mundane features.

2. They have added a "make .exe" button in the menu? Wow, I bet that
took them hours to implement, why the hell would you want it now anyway?

3. No, misspelling booleon doesn't "happen to the best of us" it happens
to the incompetent of us, the ones who don't event bother to look at the
screen when they are "pasting snippet's of code". Christ!
4. Code correction??? Why? Soon the program *will* be writing itself
and their will be no need for a programmer. Suggestion the code that you
might have meant to type? And I can imagine that being successful, can't
you? What's the best that the feature isn't in the final?

5. Any comments on their vast MP3 collection on the demo PC?? And I
even have a nice story of "old Microsoft". I have developed control systems
touch panel designs for "Bill Gates" private yacht called "The Meduse"
(Which doesn't appear to have a web site now, or so I have noticed). And
onboard this boat there were servers of MP3's, I'm talking about thousands
upon thousands of MP3's, strange how that can be classed as legal
considering the boat was hired out to the rich and famous, that doesn't seem
to be a "personal music collection for personal use" to me!!! Ar5ehole5!

6. Did anyone else think that the print preview dialog looked rather
like a badly bodged hard coded VB form? Hmm, I think so..

7. "Exception helper", yet another code to attempt to put VB programmers
in a wheel chair, it seems quite similar to the paper clip in Office, can
anyone picture this..

"It seems like your developing a multi media management application,
what would you like me to do?"

* Automatically paste "helpful code snippets" for you in random
locations?
* Notify Microsoft of all your "rare materials" that your testing the
application with by uploading them to MSDN
* Just fu*k off and leave you alone?

8. Is it just me but does anyone else feel that databases are over used
in Microsoft demos? I mean for Christ sake there are a very small
percentage of "Windows applications" that actually use databases. I feel
that this is just a really poor way to base a development system, I agree
that the database utilisation is an important one, but only for specific
applications, and a media player is NOT one of them!!

9. Points on the XP theme? Is this just to try to make VB look new and
special?

10. And I totally love the loop of exceptions that were raised in their
heavily prepped demo!

10. Does anyone here find the placement of controls on a Windows form
difficult enough to require "snap lines"? Or is this an accessibility
feature for the blind? I can't wait until they have the neural programming
implemented so that dying programmers can finish off their applications
while their brain is kicking out the last electrical impulses.

11. "Whidbey"?

"Where do you want to go today?"

Not where you're going you bunch of fu*ckpigs!

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Nov 20 '05 #12
Hello,

"John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> schrieb:
Doesn't say when it is due out.


Bug it gives information about the language changes.

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #13
Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
6. Did anyone else think that the print preview dialog looked rather
like a badly bodged hard coded VB form? Hmm, I think so..


ROFL

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #14
I think it will only run in India and Russia, even more incentive to
outsource jobs.

Iguana
"Nak" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb features we
can expect?


Hi there,

I believe it it's codename is "Project rip-off" and it will include
features such as

* Automatic programming, just say what you want through your pc
microphone
* MSDN code archiving, backups up all of your source code to MSDN
automatically (this feature cannot be disabled)
* Bodge plug-ins, implement those bodges quicker than ever. With just

a few mouse clicks your apps will never have run so well.
* Huge memory leaks
* Strange bugs when strong naming that results in VB loosing an snk
file. The only resolve is to restart VB
* Enhanced common control bugs

And a host of other exciting new features!!!

j/k I couldn't resist!!! ;-)

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ "No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Nov 20 '05 #15
I was made redundant due to outsourcing, then I started on my own and now I
am outsourcing too. :)

"Iguana" <dm*****************@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:uG**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
I think it will only run in India and Russia, even more incentive to
outsource jobs.

Iguana
"Nak" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb
features we
can expect?
Hi there,

I believe it it's codename is "Project rip-off" and it will include
features such as

* Automatic programming, just say what you want through your pc
microphone
* MSDN code archiving, backups up all of your source code to MSDN
automatically (this feature cannot be disabled)
* Bodge plug-ins, implement those bodges quicker than ever. With just a
few mouse clicks your apps will never have run so well.
* Huge memory leaks
* Strange bugs when strong naming that results in VB loosing an snk
file. The only resolve is to restart VB
* Enhanced common control bugs

And a host of other exciting new features!!!

j/k I couldn't resist!!! ;-)

Nick.

--

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ "No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\


Nov 20 '05 #16

"John" <jo**@nospam.infovis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Oi*************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi

Does anyone know when next version of vs is due and what new vb features we can expect?


It will target the version 2 of the .NET framework which will need a dual
processor system and 1GB of RAM to open a form.

;-)
Nov 20 '05 #17
Hello,

"Ed Crowley" <cu******@pacbell.net> schrieb:
It will target the version 2 of the .NET framework which will
need a dual processor system and 1GB of RAM to open
a form.


The release after Whidbey will include Avalon forms (these forms can be
rotated by 360° and use graphics acceleration)...

;-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #18

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> wrote in message
news:#A*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Hello,

"Ed Crowley" <cu******@pacbell.net> schrieb:
It will target the version 2 of the .NET framework which will
need a dual processor system and 1GB of RAM to open
a form.


The release after Whidbey will include Avalon forms (these forms can be
rotated by 360° and use graphics acceleration)...


Cool! Maybe one day it will be as fast as VB6! ;-)
Nov 20 '05 #19
Hi Herfried,

|| after Whidbey .. forms can be rotated by 360°

LOL.

Regards,
Fergus

Nov 20 '05 #20
Hello,

"Ed Crowley" <cu******@pacbell.net> schrieb:
Cool! Maybe one day it will be as fast as VB6! ;-)


Visual Basic .NET Significantly Outperforms Visual Basic 6.0
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vbasic/pro...fo/benchmarks/

SCNR

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #21

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