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Hello,
My previous post was in vain,
so I am sending this post again.

I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help file).

Thanks :)
Nov 20 '05 #1
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"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello,
My previous post was in vain,
so I am sending this post again.

I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help
file).

Thanks :)


Don't you like the stuff started by <F1>? :-)
If you don't have VB.Net/VS.Net, the whole documentation can be found at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
(under .NET development/Visual Studio.NET/...)

BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #2

P: n/a
For VB.NET - full help.
Thanks :)
"Nak" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi there,
I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help file).
A standard tutorial huh? I think you might want to be a little more
specific, VB isn't just VB, what do you want to learn in VB? How to use
common controls? basic OOP programming? advanced OOP programming? how to

use the IDE? how to create reusable objects? etc etc.

Try here, it's good for beginners as it's contributed to mainly by
beginners.

http://www.planet-source-code.com

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ "No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Nov 20 '05 #3

P: n/a
Nak
Hi there,
I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help file).


A standard tutorial huh? I think you might want to be a little more
specific, VB isn't just VB, what do you want to learn in VB? How to use
common controls? basic OOP programming? advanced OOP programming? how to use
the IDE? how to create reusable objects? etc etc.

Try here, it's good for beginners as it's contributed to mainly by
beginners.

http://www.planet-source-code.com

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Nov 20 '05 #4

P: n/a
I was looking in msdn.microsoft/com/library/etc...
I am looking for the list of all functions & objects.
Can I see this list.

BTW, my system date/time/time zone is OK (my current time posting this email
is : 16:12 pm at 20/9/03), and I think that the server that synchronize my
time in newsgroup - time.windows.com, getting wrong conclusions about my
time, so you see not the real time of mine.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:OG**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello,
My previous post was in vain,
so I am sending this post again.

I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help
file).

Thanks :)


Don't you like the stuff started by <F1>? :-)
If you don't have VB.Net/VS.Net, the whole documentation can be found at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
(under .NET development/Visual Studio.NET/...)

BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #5

P: n/a
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.


Are you sure it is wrong?!

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #6

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I was looking in msdn.microsoft/com/library/etc...
I am looking for the list of all functions & objects.
Can I see this list.
C'mon, simply browse the table of contents. :-)

The .NET framework reference:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...etfxanchor.asp

I'm not online currently, so use the link above, from there choose
"Reference" -> "class library". You'll get a list of all namespaces and all
containing classes and everything and all. ;-)

Concerning the VB.NET docs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mingWithVB.asp
From there you should find what you're looking for.

BTW, my system date/time/time zone is OK (my current time posting
this email is : 16:12 pm at 20/9/03), and I think that the server
that synchronize my time in newsgroup - time.windows.com, getting
wrong conclusions about my time, so you see not the real time of
mine.

Thanks :)


Your time zone is set to +2 hours. Is it right? Here (Germany) it is +2
hours (+1 hour local offset to UTC and +1 hour for central european summer
time) and it is *15*:16, not 16:16
Choose one: ;-)
- We are in the same time zone, and your *time* is wrong. (in other words:
if you were in the same time zone as I am, our time would have to be equal)
- We are in different time zones, your time is right, but your *time zone*
is wrong
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #7

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello,
My previous post was in vain,
so I am sending this post again.

I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help
file).

Thanks :)


Don't you like the stuff started by <F1>? :-)
If you don't have VB.Net/VS.Net, the whole documentation can be found at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
(under .NET development/Visual Studio.NET/...)

BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #8

P: n/a
For VB.NET - full help.
Thanks :)
"Nak" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi there,
I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help file).
A standard tutorial huh? I think you might want to be a little more
specific, VB isn't just VB, what do you want to learn in VB? How to use
common controls? basic OOP programming? advanced OOP programming? how to

use the IDE? how to create reusable objects? etc etc.

Try here, it's good for beginners as it's contributed to mainly by
beginners.

http://www.planet-source-code.com

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ "No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\

Nov 20 '05 #9

P: n/a
I was looking in msdn.microsoft/com/library/etc...
I am looking for the list of all functions & objects.
Can I see this list.

BTW, my system date/time/time zone is OK (my current time posting this email
is : 16:12 pm at 20/9/03), and I think that the server that synchronize my
time in newsgroup - time.windows.com, getting wrong conclusions about my
time, so you see not the real time of mine.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:OG**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello,
My previous post was in vain,
so I am sending this post again.

I need a good help/tutorial for VB, please (I preffer *.chm help
file).

Thanks :)


Don't you like the stuff started by <F1>? :-)
If you don't have VB.Net/VS.Net, the whole documentation can be found at
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library
(under .NET development/Visual Studio.NET/...)

BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #10

P: n/a
I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for summer
clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).

I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be changed from
summer-clock to winter-clock.
That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the site for
fixing the time zone is wrong.
(maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) - because
of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is not
(everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each one who tell
me that.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I was looking in msdn.microsoft/com/library/etc...
I am looking for the list of all functions & objects.
Can I see this list.
C'mon, simply browse the table of contents. :-)

The .NET framework reference:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...etfxanchor.asp

I'm not online currently, so use the link above, from there choose
"Reference" -> "class library". You'll get a list of all namespaces and

all containing classes and everything and all. ;-)

Concerning the VB.NET docs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mingWithVB.asp From there you should find what you're looking for.

BTW, my system date/time/time zone is OK (my current time posting
this email is : 16:12 pm at 20/9/03), and I think that the server
that synchronize my time in newsgroup - time.windows.com, getting
wrong conclusions about my time, so you see not the real time of
mine.

Thanks :)
Your time zone is set to +2 hours. Is it right? Here (Germany) it is +2
hours (+1 hour local offset to UTC and +1 hour for central european summer
time) and it is *15*:16, not 16:16
Choose one: ;-)
- We are in the same time zone, and your *time* is wrong. (in other words:
if you were in the same time zone as I am, our time would have to be

equal) - We are in different time zones, your time is right, but your *time zone*
is wrong
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #11

P: n/a
Cor
Mr. X.
Mr. X.
This sounds realistic and it gives a good explanation from the problem and I
think that it is something to keep in mind for us.
Cor
Nov 20 '05 #12

P: n/a
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.


Are you sure it is wrong?!

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #13

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I was looking in msdn.microsoft/com/library/etc...
I am looking for the list of all functions & objects.
Can I see this list.
C'mon, simply browse the table of contents. :-)

The .NET framework reference:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...etfxanchor.asp

I'm not online currently, so use the link above, from there choose
"Reference" -> "class library". You'll get a list of all namespaces and all
containing classes and everything and all. ;-)

Concerning the VB.NET docs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mingWithVB.asp
From there you should find what you're looking for.

BTW, my system date/time/time zone is OK (my current time posting
this email is : 16:12 pm at 20/9/03), and I think that the server
that synchronize my time in newsgroup - time.windows.com, getting
wrong conclusions about my time, so you see not the real time of
mine.

Thanks :)


Your time zone is set to +2 hours. Is it right? Here (Germany) it is +2
hours (+1 hour local offset to UTC and +1 hour for central european summer
time) and it is *15*:16, not 16:16
Choose one: ;-)
- We are in the same time zone, and your *time* is wrong. (in other words:
if you were in the same time zone as I am, our time would have to be equal)
- We are in different time zones, your time is right, but your *time zone*
is wrong
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #14

P: n/a
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.


Are you sure it is wrong?!


Yes. Our time zone is +02 hours. According to his header line

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:12:24 +0200

he is in the same time zone. Consequently, the system time must be wrong. It
should be 15:12, not 16:12
Or: his time is correct, but his time zone is wrong. In this case it must be
+0300
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #15

P: n/a
I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for summer
clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).

I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be changed from
summer-clock to winter-clock.
That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the site for
fixing the time zone is wrong.
(maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) - because
of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is not
(everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each one who tell
me that.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I was looking in msdn.microsoft/com/library/etc...
I am looking for the list of all functions & objects.
Can I see this list.
C'mon, simply browse the table of contents. :-)

The .NET framework reference:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...etfxanchor.asp

I'm not online currently, so use the link above, from there choose
"Reference" -> "class library". You'll get a list of all namespaces and

all containing classes and everything and all. ;-)

Concerning the VB.NET docs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...mingWithVB.asp From there you should find what you're looking for.

BTW, my system date/time/time zone is OK (my current time posting
this email is : 16:12 pm at 20/9/03), and I think that the server
that synchronize my time in newsgroup - time.windows.com, getting
wrong conclusions about my time, so you see not the real time of
mine.

Thanks :)
Your time zone is set to +2 hours. Is it right? Here (Germany) it is +2
hours (+1 hour local offset to UTC and +1 hour for central european summer
time) and it is *15*:16, not 16:16
Choose one: ;-)
- We are in the same time zone, and your *time* is wrong. (in other words:
if you were in the same time zone as I am, our time would have to be

equal) - We are in different time zones, your time is right, but your *time zone*
is wrong
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #16

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for
summer clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).

I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be
changed from summer-clock to winter-clock.
That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the
site for fixing the time zone is wrong.
(maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) -
because of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is
not (everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each
one who tell me that.

Thanks :)


In your postings it is +2 but as you wrote it should be +3. You also write
that it is summer time, but it seems this setting is ignored. What does

system.TimeZone.CurrentTimeZone.IsDaylightSavingTi me(date.Now.Date)

return? If it returns False, summer time is not set on your PC. I'd enable
it manually (and switch off automatic update via internet).

Now I see: when I select "(GMT +02:00) Jerusalem" in the time zone combo in
the system settings, it does not contain a checkbox "automatically set
winter-/summer time" (or whatever the text is in your language). This should
explain it. Strange.... Does this mean, WinXP does not know that you also
have summer time in Jerusalem??
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #17

P: n/a
Cor
Mr. X.
Mr. X.
This sounds realistic and it gives a good explanation from the problem and I
think that it is something to keep in mind for us.
Cor
Nov 20 '05 #18

P: n/a
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
Yes. Our time zone is +02 hours. According to his header line

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:12:24 +0200

he is in the same time zone. Consequently, the system time
must be wrong. It should be 15:12, not 16:12
Or: his time is correct, but his time zone is wrong. In this
case it must be +0300


Ooops. For some reason _I_ read the wrong date...

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #19

P: n/a
It is in Israel jerusal (+2.00 GMT),
but we are in summer-clock, so it should be (+3.00 GMT), but in windows
there is no declaration that I am in summer clock time.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.
Are you sure it is wrong?!


Yes. Our time zone is +02 hours. According to his header line

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:12:24 +0200

he is in the same time zone. Consequently, the system time must be wrong.

It should be 15:12, not 16:12
Or: his time is correct, but his time zone is wrong. In this case it must be +0300
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #20

P: n/a
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.


Are you sure it is wrong?!


Yes. Our time zone is +02 hours. According to his header line

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:12:24 +0200

he is in the same time zone. Consequently, the system time must be wrong. It
should be 15:12, not 16:12
Or: his time is correct, but his time zone is wrong. In this case it must be
+0300
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #21

P: n/a
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar -> time
zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it should be,
so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is a bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on Saturday),
and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some reason
I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in windows-xp or
in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to another
fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day of the
year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:OV****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for
summer clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).

I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be
changed from summer-clock to winter-clock.
That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the
site for fixing the time zone is wrong.
(maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) -
because of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is
not (everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each
one who tell me that.

Thanks :)
In your postings it is +2 but as you wrote it should be +3. You also write
that it is summer time, but it seems this setting is ignored. What does

system.TimeZone.CurrentTimeZone.IsDaylightSavingTi me(date.Now.Date)

return? If it returns False, summer time is not set on your PC. I'd enable
it manually (and switch off automatic update via internet).

Now I see: when I select "(GMT +02:00) Jerusalem" in the time zone combo

in the system settings, it does not contain a checkbox "automatically set
winter-/summer time" (or whatever the text is in your language). This should explain it. Strange.... Does this mean, WinXP does not know that you also
have summer time in Jerusalem??
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #22

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for
summer clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).

I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be
changed from summer-clock to winter-clock.
That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the
site for fixing the time zone is wrong.
(maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) -
because of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is
not (everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each
one who tell me that.

Thanks :)


In your postings it is +2 but as you wrote it should be +3. You also write
that it is summer time, but it seems this setting is ignored. What does

system.TimeZone.CurrentTimeZone.IsDaylightSavingTi me(date.Now.Date)

return? If it returns False, summer time is not set on your PC. I'd enable
it manually (and switch off automatic update via internet).

Now I see: when I select "(GMT +02:00) Jerusalem" in the time zone combo in
the system settings, it does not contain a checkbox "automatically set
winter-/summer time" (or whatever the text is in your language). This should
explain it. Strange.... Does this mean, WinXP does not know that you also
have summer time in Jerusalem??
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #23

P: n/a
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
Yes. Our time zone is +02 hours. According to his header line

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:12:24 +0200

he is in the same time zone. Consequently, the system time
must be wrong. It should be 15:12, not 16:12
Or: his time is correct, but his time zone is wrong. In this
case it must be +0300


Ooops. For some reason _I_ read the wrong date...

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #24

P: n/a
It is in Israel jerusal (+2.00 GMT),
but we are in summer-clock, so it should be (+3.00 GMT), but in windows
there is no declaration that I am in summer clock time.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
BTW, your system date/time/time zone is wrong.
Are you sure it is wrong?!


Yes. Our time zone is +02 hours. According to his header line

Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 16:12:24 +0200

he is in the same time zone. Consequently, the system time must be wrong.

It should be 15:12, not 16:12
Or: his time is correct, but his time zone is wrong. In this case it must be +0300
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #25

P: n/a
See if the previous post is correct.

If it is correct
(As I think it is, because I see that it has different behaviour - if you
right-click on mouse + properies on the previous e-mail, you'll see the GMT
time (+3.00 GMT) as it should be, and not like my previous post - +2.00
GMT),
then :

What I did is simply change to another country,
(GMT + 02:00) Helsinki, Kyiv, Riga, ...
instead of (GMT + 02:00) Jerusalem.
and the checkbox :
"Automatically adjust clock for daylight ... " is checked.

If it is true that now my clock is seen O.K., then problem is :
Windows XP make invisible the : "automatically adjust clock for daylight "
.... for jerusalem GMT,
when it needs to be, I suppose, visible (so I can check this option)
(problem 1).

Otherwize : time.windows.com should update the correct time, and not hour
less (problem 2).

It is Microsoft forum, so please, if one of Microsoft team see this e-mail,
please check this out, and make a solution for the problem.
See also for times.windows.com, which doesn't set my time to the correct
one.
(Maybe other countries has that problem, and Israel is not the only one).

Now I am changing back to the : GMT +02.0 of Jerusalem, so please be
patient until I change back to winter time when my country does.

That's all folks.

Thanks :)

"Mr. x" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
test time : now it is : 18:32 pm.

"Mr. x" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:Oq*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar -> time
zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it should be, so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is a

bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on Saturday), and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some

reason
I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in windows-xp or in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to

another
fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day of

the
year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:OV****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
> I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
> My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
> my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for
> summer clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).
>
> I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be
> changed from summer-clock to winter-clock.
> That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the
> site for fixing the time zone is wrong.
> (maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) -
> because of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
> and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
> and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is
> not (everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each
> one who tell me that.
>
> Thanks :)

In your postings it is +2 but as you wrote it should be +3. You also write that it is summer time, but it seems this setting is ignored. What does
system.TimeZone.CurrentTimeZone.IsDaylightSavingTi me(date.Now.Date )
return? If it returns False, summer time is not set on your PC. I'd enable it manually (and switch off automatic update via internet).

Now I see: when I select "(GMT +02:00) Jerusalem" in the time zone
combo in
the system settings, it does not contain a checkbox "automatically set
winter-/summer time" (or whatever the text is in your language). This

should
explain it. Strange.... Does this mean, WinXP does not know that you

also have summer time in Jerusalem??
--
Armin



Nov 20 '05 #26

P: n/a
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar -> time
zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it should be,
so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is a bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on Saturday),
and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some reason
I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in windows-xp or
in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to another
fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day of the
year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:OV****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for
summer clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).

I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be
changed from summer-clock to winter-clock.
That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the
site for fixing the time zone is wrong.
(maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) -
because of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is
not (everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each
one who tell me that.

Thanks :)
In your postings it is +2 but as you wrote it should be +3. You also write
that it is summer time, but it seems this setting is ignored. What does

system.TimeZone.CurrentTimeZone.IsDaylightSavingTi me(date.Now.Date)

return? If it returns False, summer time is not set on your PC. I'd enable
it manually (and switch off automatic update via internet).

Now I see: when I select "(GMT +02:00) Jerusalem" in the time zone combo

in the system settings, it does not contain a checkbox "automatically set
winter-/summer time" (or whatever the text is in your language). This should explain it. Strange.... Does this mean, WinXP does not know that you also
have summer time in Jerusalem??
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #27

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar ->
time zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it
should be,
so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is
a bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on
Saturday), and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some
reason I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in
windows-xp or in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to
another fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day
of the year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)


That's almost the same I was trying to say in my previous post. :-))
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #28

P: n/a
Watch one of my previous post, and see that I have, for my opinion, a good
solution, (after "test time" header) in this group "Tutorial for VB".

Cheers.

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:uN*************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar ->
time zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it
should be,
so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is
a bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on
Saturday), and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some
reason I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in
windows-xp or in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to
another fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day
of the year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)


That's almost the same I was trying to say in my previous post. :-))
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #29

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ON**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It is Microsoft forum, so please, if one of Microsoft team see this e-mail, please check this out, and make a solution for the problem.
See also for times.windows.com, which doesn't set my time to the correct
one.
(Maybe other countries has that problem, and Israel is not the only one).

Now I am changing back to the : GMT +02.0 of Jerusalem, so please be
patient until I change back to winter time when my country does.


Search the MSFT KB and the winxp groups ("time zone jerusalem" should do
it).

For example:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=d...%3Dd%26hl%3Dde
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #30

P: n/a
See if the previous post is correct.

If it is correct
(As I think it is, because I see that it has different behaviour - if you
right-click on mouse + properies on the previous e-mail, you'll see the GMT
time (+3.00 GMT) as it should be, and not like my previous post - +2.00
GMT),
then :

What I did is simply change to another country,
(GMT + 02:00) Helsinki, Kyiv, Riga, ...
instead of (GMT + 02:00) Jerusalem.
and the checkbox :
"Automatically adjust clock for daylight ... " is checked.

If it is true that now my clock is seen O.K., then problem is :
Windows XP make invisible the : "automatically adjust clock for daylight "
.... for jerusalem GMT,
when it needs to be, I suppose, visible (so I can check this option)
(problem 1).

Otherwize : time.windows.com should update the correct time, and not hour
less (problem 2).

It is Microsoft forum, so please, if one of Microsoft team see this e-mail,
please check this out, and make a solution for the problem.
See also for times.windows.com, which doesn't set my time to the correct
one.
(Maybe other countries has that problem, and Israel is not the only one).

Now I am changing back to the : GMT +02.0 of Jerusalem, so please be
patient until I change back to winter time when my country does.

That's all folks.

Thanks :)

"Mr. x" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
test time : now it is : 18:32 pm.

"Mr. x" <a@b.com> wrote in message
news:Oq*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar -> time
zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it should be, so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is a

bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on Saturday), and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some

reason
I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in windows-xp or in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to

another
fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day of

the
year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:OV****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
> I see your time in newsgroup : 15:17.
> My time zone is +2.0 GMT (See time zone for Israel, Jerusalem).
> my clock is correct (well, I'm not senile), and current clock is for
> summer clock ( so it is + 3.0 GMT).
>
> I think that in the few days in our country, the clock will be
> changed from summer-clock to winter-clock.
> That may be the problem, because I think that the algorithm or the
> site for fixing the time zone is wrong.
> (maybe it is time.windows.com, or something wrong on the ISP site) -
> because of that my time isn't synchronize with yours,
> and you should wait few days for correction on ISP etc...
> and please - I get a lot of feedback about my wrong time, which is
> not (everyone in Israel does this problem), so I cannot answer each
> one who tell me that.
>
> Thanks :)

In your postings it is +2 but as you wrote it should be +3. You also write that it is summer time, but it seems this setting is ignored. What does
system.TimeZone.CurrentTimeZone.IsDaylightSavingTi me(date.Now.Date )
return? If it returns False, summer time is not set on your PC. I'd enable it manually (and switch off automatic update via internet).

Now I see: when I select "(GMT +02:00) Jerusalem" in the time zone
combo in
the system settings, it does not contain a checkbox "automatically set
winter-/summer time" (or whatever the text is in your language). This

should
explain it. Strange.... Does this mean, WinXP does not know that you

also have summer time in Jerusalem??
--
Armin



Nov 20 '05 #31

P: n/a
I am sending this e-mail, after running TZEdit.
I'll see the time,
but I don't think this is the ideal solution
- windows should solve the problem, anyway.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ON**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It is Microsoft forum, so please, if one of Microsoft team see this e-mail,
please check this out, and make a solution for the problem.
See also for times.windows.com, which doesn't set my time to the correct
one.
(Maybe other countries has that problem, and Israel is not the only one).
Now I am changing back to the : GMT +02.0 of Jerusalem, so please be
patient until I change back to winter time when my country does.


Search the MSFT KB and the winxp groups ("time zone jerusalem" should do
it).

For example:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=d...%3Dd%26hl%3Dde

--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #32

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar ->
time zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it
should be,
so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is
a bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on
Saturday), and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some
reason I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in
windows-xp or in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to
another fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day
of the year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)


That's almost the same I was trying to say in my previous post. :-))
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #33

P: n/a
Watch one of my previous post, and see that I have, for my opinion, a good
solution, (after "test time" header) in this group "Tutorial for VB".

Cheers.

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:uN*************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb
Hello again,

I also searched for the checkbox :
"automatically set winter-/summer time", but this checkbox isn't.
(If there was - there was not a problem at all).
If I get syncronize from times.windows.com
- I get a wrong time (1 hour less, like winter time).
(not everyone know this - but double click on the time in task bar ->
time zone -> internet time -> automaticly synchronize ....
-> check this on will cause my time to be an hour less then it
should be,
so something is wrong in times.windows.com,
and perhaps also in windows-xp, which I am not suprised that it is
a bug
there).
I think, because now it is Saturday (In Isreal we don't work on
Saturday), and now we on summer time,
but in a few days we'll be in winter-time, windows-xp thinks for some
reason I am in winter time (maybe there is a fixed day out there in
windows-xp or in times.windows.com),
but there is nothing I can do about it, unless I change my clock to
another fictive country -
A thing I don't want to do.
It seems that summer-winter time is not always at the exact same day
of the year - this may be changed.

Thanks :)


That's almost the same I was trying to say in my previous post. :-))
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #34

P: n/a
Hello,

"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb:
Test Jerusalem time. now it's my time : 21:42 pm


My newsreader shows that your posting arrived at 20:42 (GMT +01:00).

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #35

P: n/a
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ON**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It is Microsoft forum, so please, if one of Microsoft team see this e-mail, please check this out, and make a solution for the problem.
See also for times.windows.com, which doesn't set my time to the correct
one.
(Maybe other countries has that problem, and Israel is not the only one).

Now I am changing back to the : GMT +02.0 of Jerusalem, so please be
patient until I change back to winter time when my country does.


Search the MSFT KB and the winxp groups ("time zone jerusalem" should do
it).

For example:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=d...%3Dd%26hl%3Dde
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #36

P: n/a
I am sending this e-mail, after running TZEdit.
I'll see the time,
but I don't think this is the ideal solution
- windows should solve the problem, anyway.

Thanks :)

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ON**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It is Microsoft forum, so please, if one of Microsoft team see this e-mail,
please check this out, and make a solution for the problem.
See also for times.windows.com, which doesn't set my time to the correct
one.
(Maybe other countries has that problem, and Israel is not the only one).
Now I am changing back to the : GMT +02.0 of Jerusalem, so please be
patient until I change back to winter time when my country does.


Search the MSFT KB and the winxp groups ("time zone jerusalem" should do
it).

For example:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=d...%3Dd%26hl%3Dde

--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #37

P: n/a
Hello,

"Mr. x" <a@b.com> schrieb:
Test Jerusalem time. now it's my time : 21:42 pm


My newsreader shows that your posting arrived at 20:42 (GMT +01:00).

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #38

P: n/a
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
Hello,

"Tom Spink" <th**********@ntlworld.com> schrieb:
Herfried, is Austria +0200?

I'm obviously +0000, but yet in my posts header, it says
+0100... odd.


In my post header it says +0200, but Austria is +0100. Odd.


+1 for summer time
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #39

P: n/a
Hi Armin,

Of course. I understand now. Silly Tom.

England's on BST, which is GMT +1.

--
HTH,
-- Tom Spink, ‹ber Geek

Please respond to the newsgroup,
so all can benefit

"Chaos, Panic, Disorder, my work here is done"
"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:eH**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
: > Hello,
: >
: > "Tom Spink" <th**********@ntlworld.com> schrieb:
: > > Herfried, is Austria +0200?
: > >
: > > I'm obviously +0000, but yet in my posts header, it says
: > > +0100... odd.
: >
: > In my post header it says +0200, but Austria is +0100. Odd.
:
: +1 for summer time
:
:
: --
: Armin
:
Nov 20 '05 #40

P: n/a
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
In my post header it says +0200, but Austria is +0100. Odd.


+1 for summer time


Agrgsrdf... I should take more sleep.

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP ∑ VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #41

P: n/a
"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
Hello,

"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
In my post header it says +0200, but Austria is +0100. Odd.


+1 for summer time


Agrgsrdf... I should take more sleep.


Hibernation is coming soon. :-))
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #42

P: n/a
My computer won't hibernate. It bluescreens.

--
HTH,
-- Tom Spink, ‹ber Geek

Please respond to the newsgroup,
so all can benefit

"Chaos, Panic, Disorder, my work here is done"
"Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> wrote in message
news:#V**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: "Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi*******@m.activevb.de> schrieb
: > Hello,
: >
: > "Armin Zingler" <az*******@freenet.de> schrieb:
: > > > In my post header it says +0200, but Austria is +0100. Odd.
: > >
: > > +1 for summer time
: >
: > Agrgsrdf... I should take more sleep.
:
: Hibernation is coming soon. :-))
:
:
: --
: Armin
:
Nov 20 '05 #43

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