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I want to restrict a buttons click/doubleclick event to
firing from the left button only. How do I eliminate the
middle and right button clicks? I am able to trap these
but I'm just not sure how to cancel the event....

thx
Nov 20 '05 #1
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"Kurt" <ks*******@comcast.net> schrieb
I want to restrict a buttons click/doubleclick event to
firing from the left button only. How do I eliminate the
middle and right button clicks? I am able to trap these
but I'm just not sure how to cancel the event....


You can not cancel an event, but you can ignore it.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #2

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-----Original Message-----
"Kurt" <ks*******@comcast.net> schrieb
I want to restrict a buttons click/doubleclick event to firing from the left button only. How do I eliminate the middle and right button clicks? I am able to trap these but I'm just not sure how to cancel the event....


You can not cancel an event, but you can ignore it.
--
Armin

.

Pardon the terminology... So how do I accomplish this?
The following allows me to trap the event. What do I
need to do to have my app ignore it?

Private Sub Flatbutton3_MouseDown(ByVal sender As Object,
ByVal e As System.Windows.Forms.MouseEventArgs) Handles
Flatbutton3.MouseDown

Dim eventString As String = Nothing
Select Case e.Button
Case MouseButtons.Right
eventString = "R"
Case MouseButtons.Middle
eventString = "M"
End Select
If eventString = "R" Or eventString = "M" Then

End If

End Sub
Nov 20 '05 #3

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Hi Kurt,

You need something along these lines:

Private MouseButtonDown As MouseButtons

Sub MouseDown()
MouseButtonDown = e.Button

Sub MouseClick() and MouseDblClick()
If MouseButtonDown <> MouseButtons.Left
Return

Sub MouseUp()
MouseButtonDown = MouseButtons.None

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #4

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Nak
Hi Kurt,

Watch for windows messages, the following shows you how to ignore all
double clicks to a form except for the left mouse button ones. I hope this
helps.

Const WM_RBUTTONDBLCLK = &H206
Const WM_LBUTTONDBLCLK = &H203
Const WM_MBUTTONDBLCLK = &H209

Protected Overrides Sub WndProc(ByRef m As System.Windows.Forms.Message)
Select Case m.Msg
Case WM_RBUTTONDBLCLK, WM_MBUTTONDBLCLK : Return
Case Else
Call MyBase.WndProc(m)
End Select
End Sub

Private Sub Form1_DoubleClick(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As
System.EventArgs) Handles MyBase.DoubleClick
MessageBox.Show("DOUBLE CLICK!")
End Sub

To implement this into a control of your own you just need to override
the WndProc procedure.

Nick.

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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #5

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"Kurt" <ks*******@comcast.net> schrieb
-----Original Message-----
"Kurt" <ks*******@comcast.net> schrieb
I want to restrict a buttons click/doubleclick event to firing from the left button only. How do I eliminate the middle and right button clicks? I am able to trap these but I'm just not sure how to cancel the event....


You can not cancel an event, but you can ignore it.
--
Armin

.

Pardon the terminology... So how do I accomplish this?
The following allows me to trap the event. What do I
need to do to have my app ignore it?

Private Sub Flatbutton3_MouseDown(ByVal sender As Object,
ByVal e As System.Windows.Forms.MouseEventArgs) Handles
Flatbutton3.MouseDown

Dim eventString As String = Nothing
Select Case e.Button
Case MouseButtons.Right
eventString = "R"
Case MouseButtons.Middle
eventString = "M"
End Select
If eventString = "R" Or eventString = "M" Then

End If

End Sub

Sorry, I don't understand. If you delete the code, you are ignoring the
event.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #6

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Hi Armin,

Kurt doesn't want to ignore MouseDown for Mid and Right buttons, he wants
to ignore Click and DblClick. These don't provide the button information which
must therefore be obtained in MouseDown, used in Click and cleared in MouseUp.

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #7

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Nak
> Kurt doesn't want to ignore MouseDown for Mid and Right buttons, he
wants
to ignore Click and DblClick. These don't provide the button information which must therefore be obtained in MouseDown, used in Click and cleared in

MouseUp.

Hi Fergus,

Look at my solution :-)

Nick.

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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #8

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"Fergus Cooney" <fi******@tesco.net> schrieb
Kurt doesn't want to ignore MouseDown for Mid and Right buttons,
he wants
to ignore Click and DblClick. These don't provide the button
information which must therefore be obtained in MouseDown, used in
Click and cleared in MouseUp.


Aaaaahhh... now I got it! :-) He wants to distinguish between different
mouse buttons in the click event - ok.
--
Armin

Nov 20 '05 #9

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Nak
Hmm, maybe I'm imagining things, but I did provide the solution, didn't I?
It prevents all double clicks except the left double click from being
raised, as requested, oh well :-p

Nick.

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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #10

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Hi Nick,

Sorry, mate, I got caught up in all sorts. Yes I tested it (couple of
syntaxes, no worries) and it works a dream. :-) The only downside for me is
the having to hunt around for WM_THISANDTHAT as these don't stay in my brain
(lack of use*).

I've used my technique ever since I found that VB doesn't provide mouse
button info in Click and DblClick. And access to WndProc (what's that) wasn't
available then.

So now the question is - go with trapping multiple events and passing
global mouse button info around (a portable approach) or keep it centralised
in WndProc (an API approach). Decisions, decisions. :-)

I wonder if Kurt will tell us which one takes his fancy?

Regards,
Fergus

* The constants, not the brain :-)
Nov 20 '05 #11

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Nak
Hi Fergus,
Sorry, mate, I got caught up in all sorts. Yes I tested it (couple of
syntaxes, no worries) and it works a dream. :-) The only downside for me is the having to hunt around for WM_THISANDTHAT as these don't stay in my brain (lack of use*).


I see what you mean. Have you tried downloading an API viewer? They come
in quite handy sometimes

http://www.activevb.de/rubriken/apiv...viewereng.html

This one is quite compact, and contains all constanst etc..

Nick.

--
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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #12

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Hi Nick,

I actually downloaded that very one a few weeks back but it won't work for
me. It gives me the language dialogue and then exits when I choose English
(the only option). I've emailed the guy (Christoph) but his suggestion
(regsvr) didn't work out either. :-(

Christoph mentioned having to install it with the VB6 plug-in but I'm not
sure what he means. Do you run it within VB6 or standalone?

Any ideas?

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #13

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Hi Nick,

I actually downloaded that very one a few weeks back but it won't work for
me. It gives me the language dialogue and then exits when I choose English
(the only option). I've emailed the guy (Christoph) but his suggestion
(regsvr) didn't work out either. :-(

Christoph mentioned having to install it with the VB6 plug-in but I'm not
sure what he means. Do you run it within VB6 or standalone?

Any ideas?

Regards,
Fergus

ps. This is a resend. The wierdest thing happened. I sent this about four
minutes ago. Then went to Inbox and back to the group to force OE to load and
show. There was my message and as soon as I clicked it to make it unhighlight,
it got struck out and the message "deleted from the server came up". Is VB6 a
swear word or something?
Nov 20 '05 #14

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Hi Nick,

I actually downloaded that very one a few weeks back but it won't work for
me. It gives me the language dialogue and then exits when I choose English
(the only option). I emailed the guy (Christoph) but his suggestion (regsvr)
didn't work out either. :-(

Christoph mentioned having to install it with the VB6 plug-in but I'm not
sure what he means. Do you run it within VB6 or standalone?

Any ideas?

Regards,
Fergus

ps. This is a resend. The wierdest thing happened. I sent this about four
minutes ago. Then went to Inbox and back to the group to force OE to load and
show. There was my message and as soon as I clicked it to make it unhighlight,
it got struck out and the message "deleted from the server came up". Is VB6 a
swear word or something?

pps. This is the second resend. It happened again so I'm trying a bit further
to the left.
Nov 20 '05 #15

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Nak
Hi Fergus,
Christoph mentioned having to install it with the VB6 plug-in but I'm not sure what he means. Do you run it within VB6 or standalone?


I thought the plug-ins were so that you could use it directly in the IDE
first of all. But after closer inspection I believe them to be just for
copying the declarations, constants etc. into the clipboard for your desired
syntax.

I installed it with all plug-ins installed in the end, even though I only
use VB.NET. I remember having installation problems to start with too
actually, I couldn't actually get the application to appear after launching
it, so I uninstalled and installed again, and when the first selection
appeared I selected VB6 (or whatever it was, I cant quite remember).

The viewer is quite good, with the exception that you cannot search for
constants by their value, nor does it have descriptions and examples on the
API's, like the one at www.allapi.net.

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #16

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Nak
> pps. This is the second resend. It happened again so I'm trying a bit
further
to the left.


LOL think Outlook is being it's usual unreliable self :-)

Nick.

--
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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #17

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Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
I see what you mean. Have you tried downloading an API viewer?
They come in quite handy sometimes

http://www.activevb.de/rubriken/apiv...viewereng.html

This one is quite compact, and contains all constanst etc..


Yep... Nevertheless the .NET support is really poor and most of the
declares etc. must be corrected by hand. If I have more time I will talk
with Christoph (a "coworker" at ActiveVB) about that.

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #18

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Hi Herfried,

|| Nevertheless the .NET support is really poor ...
|| If I have more time I will talk with Christoph ...

Christoph said to me that if <he> had the time he'd do something about it,
or maybe someone else could?

I think he's too busy reading Terry Pratchett. ;-)

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #19

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Nak
> I think he's too busy reading Terry Pratchett. ;-)

LOL

Do you read Fergus?

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Nov 20 '05 #20

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Hello,

"Fergus Cooney" <fi******@tesco.net> schrieb:
Christoph said to me that if <he> had the time he'd
do something about it, or maybe someone else could?
He sent me a request for helping him to write a .NET add in some days ago...
I think he's too busy reading Terry Pratchett. ;-)


;-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #21

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Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
I think he's too busy reading Terry Pratchett. ;-)
[...] Do you read Fergus?


I think Fergus reads newsgroup articles...

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #22

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Hello,

"Fergus Cooney" <fi******@tesco.net> schrieb:
Christoph mentioned having to install it with the VB6
plug-in but I'm not sure what he means. Do you run
it within VB6 or standalone?


The tool is really good, but it is buggy too... I use the 2002 version
(really old one) and it works perfect for me, but I didn't install the
plug-ins for the VB Classic IDE.

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #23

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Nak
> I think Fergus reads newsgroup articles...

Well thanks for clearing that one up, I was actually referring to books,
story books to be exact. I was going to mention a favourite author of mine
called Robert Rankin, he writes the funniest books around...

Dance of the voodoo handbag
The raiders of the lost car park
The garden of unearthly delights
Snuff fiction

To name but a few classic reads!

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #24

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Nak
> Outlook Express <> Outlook.

Thanks again Herfried, you are being most helpful. Strangely enough I am
fully aware of this, I have both!

Maybe your just having fun correcting me? Whatever turns you on mate ;-)

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #25

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Nak
And also Herfried,

Just for your information, was their any need for me to suffix the word
"Outlook" with the word "Express" when Fergus was referring to a problem
with posting to a newsgroup? "Outlook" does not support newsgroups, only
"Outlook Express" does.

Oh those hairs are splitting!, splitting so much that you're going to
need a wig if your not careful! ;-)

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
Nov 20 '05 #26

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Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
Outlook Express <> Outlook.
Thanks again Herfried, you are being most helpful. Strangely
enough I am fully aware of this, I have both!


;-)
Maybe your just having fun correcting me?


Zzz...

;-)))

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #27

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Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
"Outlook" does not support newsgroups, only "Outlook Express" does.


Yep... That's exactly what I thought, but I was not sure if Outlook 2003
supports ngs.

;-)))

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #28

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Hi Nick,

|| Do you read Fergus?
Most nights I curl up in bed with a good Fergus.
|| Do you read Fergus?

I do, as it happens. I've read all that Plato, Aristotle, Satre,
Kierkegaard, Kant, James, Feynman, Russell, et al have to offer. Now I'm into
Fergus. Heavy stuff. Mind blowing!!
|| Do you read Fergus?

I have very selective tastes - only certain "rare material".

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #29

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Nak
> Yep... That's exactly what I thought, but I was not sure if Outlook 2003
supports ngs.


I'm not sure, I have 2002. I hope that they do introduce it, it would be a
nice complete touch to outlook, then bye bye to OE.

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #30

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Nak
> > Maybe your just having fun correcting me?

Zzz...


?

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #31

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Nak
Hi Fergus,
Most nights I curl up in bed with a good Fergus.
Oh, I've heard of that "author", I thought he was a publisher of
pornographic magazines or something? Best place to curl up with one I
suppose eh? ;-)
I do, as it happens. I've read all that Plato, Aristotle, Satre,
Kierkegaard, Kant, James, Feynman, Russell, et al have to offer. Now I'm into Fergus. Heavy stuff. Mind blowing!!
:-) Ever heard of Robert Rankin, I feel that you would probably like his
humour (though I may be wrong). Maybe try reading "Raiders of the lost
carpark" or "Dance of the voodoo handbag", 2 of the many Robert Ranking
classics, not to be confused with the psychological author "Ian Rankin" of
course.
I have very selective tastes - only certain "rare material".


Like...

"Bangkok chick babes monthly"
"Famers and their animals"
"Gardeners and their vegetables"
"Geks and their computers" < One of Herfrieds all time favourites ;-)
j/k

;-)

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #32

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Hi Nick, Herfried,

|| Oh those hairs are splitting!, splitting so much that
|| you're going to need a wig if your not careful! ;-)

LOL

|| when Fergus was referring to a problem with posting
|| to a newsgroup? "Outlook" does not support newsgroups,
|| only "Outlook Express" does.

Right on, bro!!

Although in fairness to Herfried. I know where he's coming from. There was
at time when I felt that compulsion to correct and qualify. I still feel it
but now as an urge rather than a compulsion. It has taken time to realise that
pointing out the correct way is actually irrelevant to 90% of people and the
other 10% are only interested to see whether I make a mistake so they can
correct <me>. [I'm playing that game a bit with Herfried at the moment, eh
Herfried? ;-)]

Correctnes is a high value for me and also for Herfried. It does get in
the way sometimes. Herfried will ask for clarification on a point that his
intuition <knows> is right. Aber the need to be klar is sehr stark (v.
strong). There's one thing that's certain, though, Nick. In no way is Herfried
getting at you. It's his need to see and express clarity even to the point of
annoying you. The key point here, Herfried, is that it is <your> need and the
benefit to Nick is marginal at best.

Like I say, I know this because that was me and it took time and time
again for the realisation to overcome the habit - I had to stop feeding the
desire for correctness in all ways at all times. With me it comes through in
my typing. I can't stand to allow typos to get through, and I hate seeing them
in other's postings. But that's <my> issue. I've learnt to impose it on others
only when necessary or when I'm too tired to hold it back.

Herfried, I reckon you'll understand what I'm saying but in the words of
Robert Heinlein - "Waiting is 'til fullness groks".

Regards, both,
Fergus

Nov 20 '05 #33

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Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
I have very selective tastes - only certain "rare material".


Like...

"Bangkok chick babes monthly"
"Famers and their animals"
"Gardeners and their vegetables"
"Geks and their computers" < One of Herfrieds all time favourites ;-)
j/k


ROFL

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #34

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Hello,

"Fergus Cooney" <fi******@tesco.net> schrieb:
Although in fairness to Herfried. I know where he's coming from.
I am coming from Austria...

;-)
There was at time when I felt that compulsion to correct and
qualify. I still feel it but now as an urge rather than a compulsion.
It has taken time to realise that pointing out the correct way
is actually irrelevant to 90% of people and the other 10%
are only interested to see whether I make a mistake so they can
correct <me>.
I am only correcting because I want to be corrected too if I post nonsense.
[I'm playing that game a bit with Herfried at the moment, eh
Herfried? ;-)]
No problem...
Correctnes is a high value for me and also for Herfried.
It does get in the way sometimes. Herfried will ask for clarification
on a point that his intuition <knows> is right. Aber the need to be
klar is sehr stark (v. strong).
ROFL
There's one thing that's certain, though, Nick. In no way
is Herfried getting at you. It's his need to see and express
clarity even to the point of annoying you. The key point here,
Herfried, is that it is <your> need and the benefit to Nick is
marginal at best.
Is Nick really annoyed about that? Sometimes I make a little joke and
forget to mark it as a joke, sometimes I make a correction for my/the
readers' clarity.
Herfried, I reckon you'll understand what I'm saying
but in the words of Robert Heinlein - "Waiting is 'til
fullness groks".


:-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #35

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Nak
Hi Fergus,

I do agree with everything you just wrote, 100%. I just feel that I have
used the newsgroup long enough now to not recieve any flak from the
"die-harders" just for asking a question. But fair enough, if he feels that
he needs to correct me, do not get me wrong, I am in no way *personally*
offended, I do not know Herfried *personally* to get so.

I have obsevered quite a cocky attitude from Herfried lately, one
springs to mind quite clearly...

N: Thanks Herfried :-)
H: I hope it helped. I searched for "URLUnencoded" in the MSDN libarary.
Maybe you can do that yourself in future.

I mean, what was the point in that one? I thought it was unneccsarry,
Herfried did appologise, which I didn't actually acknowledge, mainly because
I felt that my integrity was being questioned, so I thought it best to let
it lie. Fair enough, but I have got some pretty clear points to make about
this.

* I program as much as I can each day and always attempt to complete
"tasks" myself
* If I find someone elses code that would come in useful, or
essential, I rewrite it from the ground up so that I can learn how it works,
I don't just copy and paste, I refuse to.
* I search Google for answers to my questions first
* I even consult the VB documentation, which is by no means the best
of documentation!
* I now use the newsgroup as a last resort

I'm thinking to myself that things have got a little too personal here
and I would have preferred them to have stayed professional, I have noone
else to ask the *serious* questions to as I don't even know anyone else that
can program at the precise moment in time. So I will continue to use this
newsgroup as I have always done, if Herfried thinks that I am over using it
then he need not reply to my questions, just remember Herfried, you started
somewhere too.

There was a saying I heard once which I always thought was pretty true,
it went something like

"Those who can, do"
"Those who can't, teach"

This by no means is a reference to anyone here, just one of my
*personal* beliefs. I appologuise if *I* have upset or offended anyone
recently, including you Hefried, my problem tends to be that if I am bitten,
I *almost* always bite back, I just can't help it. Now I'm going to take my
knackered eyeballs to bed, my eyesight is getting quite poor! :-p

Nick.

--
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #36

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Hi Nick,

|| Oh, I've heard of that "author", I thought he was a
|| publisher of pornographic magazines or something?
|| Best place to curl up with one I suppose eh? ;-)

Lol. My first fortune wasn't in computers, but you seem to know that
already. ;-))

|| Ever heard of Robert Rankin,

The name rings a bell (and I don't just mean from your other post). But I
don't think I've had the pleasure yet. Definitely to be checked out. :-)

|| "Raiders of the lost carpark"

Sounds highly promising.

|| "Geeks and their computers"

I've got some really hot back-issues from the days before the prudish
modern fashion for covering up with cases. Just the bare minimum of a couple
of knobs on the panel. Pure raw exposed circuitry - wide open with all the
wiring dangling free. Power supplies throbbing (well on the video anyway).

Regards,

Fergus J. Cooney Esq, BSc, DIT
Managing Director,
FergusPorn,
A member of the
Fergus Group of Companies
Nov 20 '05 #37

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Hi Nick,

<rant>
Yes, and then it can be automated to seek out my own posts, download them
and mark them as read. It's <such> a pain. And my post to the Outlook groups
about same issue - not even a "sorry, can't help you"!!
</rant>

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #38

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Hi Nick,

|| "Those who can, do"
|| "Those who can't, teach"

Grrr. I ripped into Jeremy because he had a footer very similar to this.
It's a personal hated saying of mine. I don't know why, maybe something to do
with both my parents having been teachers and of the offspring, I, despite not
being a teacher by profession *, am <very much> a teacher. It's in the blood
and needs to be expressed.

However, I like you too much to take offense from your belief, I just
think it's a shame. There <are> teachers who let the side down and are clearly
in the profession as a refuge. I think the funding issue has its part in the
scheme of things too. But we won't get into all that.

I do understand, though, that nearly 50% of teachers are below average.
It's a shocking statistic. Something should be done about it.

Regards, (and I <do> mean regards),
Fergus

ps. No offense taken, so no apology required. :-)
Nov 20 '05 #39

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Nak
> I do understand, though, that nearly 50% of teachers are below
average.
It's a shocking statistic. Something should be done about it.


Yup, I actually went to the worst school in the country at the time, which
was nice, probably why I have no faith in teachers, but yes I agree that
there are some exceptional ones out there, my uncle teaches maths in the
Bahamas, very intelligent guy. Good that you took no offence, as none was
meant and so on and so fourth and such like.

I won't quote it again, don't worry, just because I said it was something I
believed does not mean it is something that I will *always* believe, I have
just had the wrong exposure to teachers unfortunately. But I'll easily
change my opinions, I'm not a dinosaur, but saying that I was wondering
where that huge egg came from :-\

Nick.

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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #40

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Hello,

"Fergus Cooney" <fi******@tesco.net> schrieb:
<rant>
Yes, and then it can be automated to seek out my own posts,
download them and mark them as read. It's <such> a pain.
And my post to the Outlook groups about same issue - not
even a "sorry, can't help you"!!
</rant>


You want to mark your postings as "read" automatically? I am missing this
feature too.

;-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #41

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Hello,

"Fergus Cooney" <fi******@tesco.net> schrieb:
Fergus J. Cooney Esq, BSc, DIT
Managing Director,
FergusPorn,
A member of the
Fergus Group of Companies


LOL

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #42

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Hello,

"Nak" <a@a.com> schrieb:
I have obsevered quite a cocky attitude from Herfried lately, one
springs to mind quite clearly...

N: Thanks Herfried :-)
H: I hope it helped. I searched for "URLUnencoded" in the
MSDN libarary Maybe you can do that yourself in future.

I mean, what was the point in that one?
I was frustrated because lots of questions written by others (not you) could
have been solved by taking a closer look at the documentation. It was a
general hint, I didn't address it to you only.
I thought it was unneccsarry,
;-)
Herfried did appologise, which I didn't actually acknowledge,
mainly because I felt that my integrity was being questioned,
No, I didn't want to question your integrity...
so I thought it best to let it lie. Fair enough, but I have got some
pretty clear points to make about this.

* I program as much as I can each day and always
attempt to complete"tasks" myself
* If I find someone elses code that would come in useful, or
essential, I rewrite it from the ground up so that I can learn how
it works, I don't just copy and paste, I refuse to.
* I search Google for answers to my questions first
* I even consult the VB documentation, which is by no means
the best of documentation!
* I now use the newsgroup as a last resort
You are a professional and I know you did recherche before asking the
question.
recently, including you Hefried, my problem tends to be that if I
am bitten, I *almost* always bite back, I just can't help it. Now
I'm going to take my knackered eyeballs to bed, my eyesight is
getting quite poor! :-p


:-)

--
Herfried K. Wagner
MVP VB Classic, VB.NET
http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
Nov 20 '05 #43

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Nak
> Fergus J. Cooney Esq, BSc, DIT
Managing Director,
FergusPorn,
A member of the
Fergus Group of Companies


BIG LOL, sorry, I hadn't notced that one :-)

Nick.

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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #44

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Nak
Hi Herfried,

Fair enough, if you didn't actually mean it to come across as it did,
then it's not your fault, it's electronic mail that's at fault, messages are
*always* being misinterpreted. I wasn't going to mention it again anway,
but I'll just assure you that I'm not taking any offence in your comment at
all, thanks for clearing it up.

I had better rush off again, more crap to program.... Where's my
previously archived version of code, to modify and compile... hmmm....
(Crestron "quotage"). ;-)

Nick.

--
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"No matter. Whatever the outcome, you are changed."

Fergus - September 5th 2003
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Nov 20 '05 #45

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Hi Nick,

I wish I'd had your uncle for maths. My class had <seven> teachers in the
two years for O level maths. I didn't do very well. (But I and a friend got
very good a chewing our pages up and making a moon-surface on the ceiling).

|| I do understand, though, that nearly 50% of teachers are
|| below average. It's a shocking statistic. Something should
|| be done about it.

50% of everything is below average!!
Twas a joke. ;-)

Regards,
Fergus
Nov 20 '05 #46

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