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Beating a dead Horse: Which Language

Hi,

I know that I'm an extreme newb by asking this overly beaten question,
but I am leaning toward C#, becuase the perception is that it is better
to learn than VB.Net. I guess it makes you cooler.:-)

Anyhow, I am a novice programmer, and I will remain one as well...I have
no plans to make programming my life ambition, but I think that it would
be fun to make my databases do some cool tricks and maybe write a
simplistic client to access the database over the LAN, and by internet
as well. My programing will be centered around Data manipulation, i.e.
collecting, sorting, and reporting on this data to myself.....

I want to know which language you find most compelling to accomplish my
mission. It may be that it doesn't have anything at all to do with the
language, from my understanding they are close to equal, but everyone I
come in contact with prefer C# over VB.net
Please, NO FLAMES; just logic
Thank you in advance!
Nov 21 '05
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Languages are passe... Pimp the framework and the rest will fall into place.

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Hi,

I know that I'm an extreme newb by asking this overly beaten question,
but I am leaning toward C#, becuase the perception is that it is better
to learn than VB.Net. I guess it makes you cooler.:-)

Anyhow, I am a novice programmer, and I will remain one as well...I have
no plans to make programming my life ambition, but I think that it would
be fun to make my databases do some cool tricks and maybe write a
simplistic client to access the database over the LAN, and by internet
as well. My programing will be centered around Data manipulation, i.e.
collecting, sorting, and reporting on this data to myself.....

I want to know which language you find most compelling to accomplish my
mission. It may be that it doesn't have anything at all to do with the
language, from my understanding they are close to equal, but everyone I
come in contact with prefer C# over VB.net
Please, NO FLAMES; just logic
Thank you in advance!

Nov 21 '05 #11
Knowing one is nearly to know the other. VB.Net is much closer to C# than it
is to VB "classic". I do agree with you that some people turn up their nose
at the mere mention of anything with "VB" in its name, but thats somewhat
showing their ignorance also. Best just to know both, and not so difficult
to slide across once you know one.

<cf***********@ yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:zZ******** ********@bignew s3.bellsouth.ne t...
Hi,

I know that I'm an extreme newb by asking this overly beaten question,
but I am leaning toward C#, becuase the perception is that it is better
to learn than VB.Net. I guess it makes you cooler.:-)

Anyhow, I am a novice programmer, and I will remain one as well...I have
no plans to make programming my life ambition, but I think that it would
be fun to make my databases do some cool tricks and maybe write a
simplistic client to access the database over the LAN, and by internet
as well. My programing will be centered around Data manipulation, i.e.
collecting, sorting, and reporting on this data to myself.....

I want to know which language you find most compelling to accomplish my
mission. It may be that it doesn't have anything at all to do with the
language, from my understanding they are close to equal, but everyone I
come in contact with prefer C# over VB.net
Please, NO FLAMES; just logic
Thank you in advance!

Nov 21 '05 #12
WJ <Jo*******@HotM ail.Com> wrote:
Correction needed: In .Net, c-sharp is written as c#, not C#. C# is a
musical symbol, it denotes Do Major (in Italian), in English, it is a C
Major !
Now, this case-sensitive thing alone will drive a novice crazy!


Just in case you were serious - C# is capitalised, according to the
language specification.

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Nov 21 '05 #13
"WJ" <Jo*******@HotM ail.Com> schrieb:
but everyone I come in contact with prefer C# over VB.net


Correction needed: In .Net, c-sharp is written as c#, not C#. C# is a
musical symbol, it denotes Do Major (in Italian), in English, it is a C
Major !
Now, this case-sensitive thing alone will drive a novice crazy!


It's actually "C#", 'Visual Basic .NET" ("VB.NET") and ".NET".

--
M S Herfried K. Wagner
M V P <URL:http://dotnet.mvps.org/>
V B <URL:http://classicvb.org/petition/>
Nov 21 '05 #14
Hi,

Seeing as noone seems to have touched the issues I find important ...

If you have no background in C/C++/Java or similar you may find VB.NET easier to understand simply because it has less symbols and more logical words. If you have dabbled in C/C++/Java or similar you may find C# to be easier to do.

There are no real performance differences between C# and VB.NET. With a few minor exceptions they are each capable of doing the same things.

As Malik said, what takes time is learning to know the framework, which is identical for all .NET languages. If you read the questions in these groups you will find that the answers in many cases are language independent, valid for both C# and VB.NET. And in those cases that it is language dependent, translating it to the other language is a simple task.

Go with what you prefer, either is fine.
--
Happy coding!
Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]
Nov 21 '05 #15
I have the same opinion: C# en VB.NET are really close. It just depends on
preferences.
I used to work in VB6, so VB.NET seemed the most logic thing to me. but if
you know VB.NET, you automaticly can work in C# too: it's the same syntax,
they just put it a little bit otherwise on the form, like this:
- VB.NET: "I am a programmer"
- C#: "{A programmer I am}"
One of the things I really dislike about C# is the fact that you have to put
al those {}{}{}{} :-)

"Morten Wennevik" <Mo************ @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:op.ss2hf2v zklbvpo@stone.. .
Hi,

Seeing as noone seems to have touched the issues I find important ...

If you have no background in C/C++/Java or similar you may find VB.NET easier to understand simply because it has less symbols and more logical
words. If you have dabbled in C/C++/Java or similar you may find C# to be
easier to do.
There are no real performance differences between C# and VB.NET. With a few minor exceptions they are each capable of doing the same things.
As Malik said, what takes time is learning to know the framework, which is identical for all .NET languages. If you read the questions in these groups
you will find that the answers in many cases are language independent, valid
for both C# and VB.NET. And in those cases that it is language dependent,
translating it to the other language is a simple task.
Go with what you prefer, either is fine.
--
Happy coding!
Morten Wennevik [C# MVP]

Nov 21 '05 #16

"Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]" <hi************ ***@gmx.at> escribió en el mensaje
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It's actually "C#", 'Visual Basic .NET" ("VB.NET") and ".NET".


"Visual C#" ;-)

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp/
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Nov 21 '05 #17
I agree on this. Languages are only a thin "layer" to learn on top of the
..NET Framework beast.
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Best regards,

Carlos J. Quintero

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You can code, design and document much faster.
Free resources for add-in developers:
http://www.mztools.com
"Sahil Malik [MVP]" <co************ *****@nospam.co m> escribió en el mensaje
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Do both.

Learn the framework and learn both languages. Then become polished in
whichever the first project is on - that is what you will get most
practise with anyway.

- Sahil Malik [MVP]

Nov 21 '05 #18
"WJ" <Jo*******@HotM ail.Com> wrote in message
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Correction needed: In .Net, c-sharp is written as c#, not C#. C# is a
musical symbol, it denotes Do Major (in Italian), in English, it is a C
Major !


No it isn't - C# is the black note between C natural and D natural.
Nov 21 '05 #19
Hi,

I have seen a lot of discussion about this. Only one guy impressed me with
what and how he wrote about this subject.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...cce63bb7?hl=en

I hope this gives an idea.

Cor
Nov 21 '05 #20

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