T-SQL in Mngmt Studio Express Doesnt affect change- obvious omission?

[DanWeaver]

I must be doing some daft thing-
In Management Studio Express I have Northwind, Pubs and a db of my
own.
I can create SQL select queries and get results back fine but when I
try to do an insert, update or delete I get the message: (1 row(s)
affected) - making me think all has gone well, however, when I refresh
and look at the relevant table nothing has changed.
Any tips?

ps In learning the basics of SQL server, vs.net, javascript and
vbscript I am often encoutnering a problem that halts me for five
hours or so but has an obvious solution 'if you know how'- I suppose
this is the difference learning on your own vs in an office
environment- "Pete, how do you...?". I am trying to create a
beneficial application under my own steam and with limited resources-
are there any other sources of internet support I might not know about
but could use to get quick answers to sticky techie questions?
D

[Erland Sommarskog]

DanWeaver (da*********@googlemail.com) writes:

I must be doing some daft thing-
In Management Studio Express I have Northwind, Pubs and a db of my
own.
I can create SQL select queries and get results back fine but when I
try to do an insert, update or delete I get the message: (1 row(s)
affected) - making me think all has gone well, however, when I refresh
and look at the relevant table nothing has changed.
Any tips?

Since you say "refresh" I assume that you mean Open Table or the Query
Designer. These are just tools of dubious quality. Better to run a SELECT
statement from a query window.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, es****@sommarskog.se

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[DanWeaver]

Yes, I was using MS SQL Server Management Studio Express. I cannot
believe it! When someone is trying to learn the basics and the table
refresh (or even db refresh as I just tried) doesnt work properly-
this is rubbish!
Thanks very much Erland- I tried a select statement (which didnt occur
to me a couple of nights ago when despairing at my incompetance !! !-)
and all of my statements were working fine.
Well, another 5 hours wasted on systems saying one thing and doing
another- search phrase REFRESH DOESN'T WORK.

Thanks again,
Dan

Since you say "refresh" I assume that you mean Open Table or the Query
Designer. These are just tools of dubious quality. Better to run a SELECT
statement from a query window.

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, [e-mail]

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 athttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books...
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 athttp://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx

[Erland Sommarskog]

DanWeaver (da*********@googlemail.com) writes:

Yes, I was using MS SQL Server Management Studio Express. I cannot
believe it! When someone is trying to learn the basics and the table
refresh (or even db refresh as I just tried) doesnt work properly-
this is rubbish!

I'm curious. I tried Open Table, but I could not find any Refresh
operation. Where exactly did you select Refresh?

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, es****@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
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Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinf...ons/books.mspx

[DanWeaver]

On Feb 17, 3:06 pm, Erland Sommarskog <[e-mail]:

DanWeaver ([e-mail]) writes:

Yes, I was using MS SQL Server Management Studio Express. I cannot
believe it! When someone is trying to learn the basics and the table
refresh (or even db refresh as I just tried) doesnt work properly-
this is rubbish!

I'm curious. I tried Open Table, but I could not find any Refresh
operation. Where exactly did you select Refresh?

In SQL Server Mngmt Express- Object explorer- right click on Databases
or any DB or any table.
D

[Erland Sommarskog]

DanWeaver (da*********@googlemail.com) writes:

In SQL Server Mngmt Express- Object explorer- right click on Databases
or any DB or any table.

I suspected that. I'm afraid that's a misunderstanding on your part.
Refresh there only freshes the list of tables or objects that is
displayed in the Object Explorer. (Keep in mind that a table has dependent
object, such as indexes, constraints etc.) It does not affect what you may
see in other windows.

The way to update the grid in Open Table is simply to press the Exclamation
mark which reruns the query that loaded the grid. (And which you can see
by right-clicking and select SQL under the Pane submenu.)
--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, es****@sommarskog.se

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...ads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinf...ons/books.mspx

[DanWeaver]

On Feb 18, 5:37 am, Erland Sommarskog <[e-mail]:

DanWeaver ([e-mail]) writes:

In SQL Server Mngmt Express- Object explorer- right click on Databases
or any DB or any table.

I suspected that. I'm afraid that's a misunderstanding on your part.
Refresh there only freshes the list of tables or objects that is
displayed in the Object Explorer. (Keep in mind that a table has dependent
object, such as indexes, constraints etc.) It does not affect what you may
see in other windows.

The way to update the grid in Open Table is simply to press the Exclamation
mark which reruns the query that loaded the grid. (And which you can see
by right-clicking and select SQL under the Pane submenu.)

--
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, [e-mail]

Books Online for SQL Server 2005 athttp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/2005/downloads/books...
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 athttp://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/previousversions/books.mspx

You're a star, Erland.
Dan