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vote for Python - PLEASE

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Hey everybody,

MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary
programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick
in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs
more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts...

(I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, but
I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python
development work!)

Thanks!
Monty
Oct 18 '07 #1
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On Oct 18, 6:12 pm, Monty Taylor <mo...@inaugust.comwrote:
Hey everybody,

MySQL has put up a poll onhttp://dev.mysql.comasking what your primary
programming language is.
But it doesn't ask that, it asks what your
primary programming language is FOR DEVELOPING
MYSQL APPLICATIONS.

In my case, there is no such language (even though
I primarily use Python) BECAUSE I DON'T USE MYSQL.

Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick
in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs
more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts...

(I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest,
There is dishonestly and there's outright lying
but
I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python
development work!)
Maybe the Python community doesn't need your help.
>
Thanks!
Monty

Oct 19 '07 #2

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On Thursday 18 October 2007 22:59, me********@aol.com wrote:
but
I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python
development work!)

Maybe the Python community doesn't need your help.
He did try to help, in a morally questionable way, but still in good faith (I
believe). I wouldn't treat him so harshly, even though I didn't like being
asked to lie.

Anyway, I went to vote. I do use python with mysql.
Python seems to be winning by a 16% margin, more or less. Impressive... but
now I have to wonder how many people lied.

--
Luis Zarrabeitia (aka Kyrie)
Fac. de Matemática y Computación, UH.
http://profesores.matcom.uh.cu/~kyrie
Oct 19 '07 #3

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Monty Taylor wrote:
MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your
primary programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL -
please go stick in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks
that Python needs more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our
butts...
If the MySQL developers base their support decision on a
non-representative web vote, I'll really use a different project if
I needed one ...

Regards,
Björn

--
BOFH excuse #297:

Too many interrupts

Oct 19 '07 #4

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On 2007-10-18, Monty Taylor <mo***@inaugust.comwrote:
MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary
programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick
in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs
more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts...

(I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, but
I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python
development work!)
What makes you think that faking a poll will send that message?

Even though Python is way ahead, you've probably ruined it for
us. I suspect the folks at MySQL will ignore or discount the
results when they find out you've solicited fradulent votes
from the Python community.

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at bumper sticker ... But now
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is ...
Oct 19 '07 #5

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Monty Taylor wrote:
MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary
programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick
in a vote for Python.
I agree with others that voting here if you don't use MySQL is *not* a
good idea. That said, I still appreciate the notice - I have used MySQL
occasionally, and I've *always* used the Python bindings. But I don't
pay any attention to the MySQL homepage, so I never would have known
about the poll.

Next time, simply posting the URL and letting us know that it's targeted
at people using MySQL should be sufficient.

STeVe
Oct 19 '07 #6

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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:45:42 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
Even though Python is way ahead, you've probably ruined it for us. I
suspect the folks at MySQL will ignore or discount the results when they
find out you've solicited fradulent votes from the Python community.
It's an Internet poll. By definition, the results are meaningless.
--
Steven.
Oct 20 '07 #7

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Steven D'Aprano wrote:
It's an Internet poll. By definition, the results are meaningless.
Regrettably, there are many people that don't share your definition.

Also, why would there be telephone votings in TV if they were
meaningless to the default watcher? :)

Regards,
Björn

--
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It's those computer people in X {city of world}. They keep stuffing
things up.

Oct 20 '07 #8

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On 10/19/07, me********@aol.com <me********@aol.comwrote:
On Oct 18, 6:12 pm, Monty Taylor <mo...@inaugust.comwrote:
Hey everybody,

MySQL has put up a poll onhttp://dev.mysql.comasking what your primary
programming language is.

But it doesn't ask that, it asks what your
primary programming language is FOR DEVELOPING
MYSQL APPLICATIONS.

In my case, there is no such language (even though
I primarily use Python) BECAUSE I DON'T USE MYSQL.

Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick
in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs
more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts...

(I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest,

There is dishonestly and there's outright lying
but
I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python
development work!)

Maybe the Python community doesn't need your help.
I do use mysql with python bindings, but it was a pleasant surprise to
see python was ahead of other languages. Though i too doubt the
meaning and genuineness of such internet polls. But may be there are
similar people in every community who would try to spread the word and
get more votes for 'their' language, hence actually helping to
normalize the results !

However even if the poll results do not accurately reflect the
intended purpose, they may be, just may be, give an idea of size of
community and just how much that 'one' lie they will live with to see
'their' language ahead ;-) !

cheers,
--
--
Amit Khemka
Oct 20 '07 #9

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Monty Taylor wrote:
Hey everybody,

MySQL has put up a poll on http://dev.mysql.com asking what your primary
programming language is. Even if you don't use MySQL - please go stick
in a vote for Python. I'm constantly telling folks that Python needs
more love, but PHP and Java are kicking our butts...

(I know the world would be a better place if the poll were honest, but
I'd rather that people got the message that they should do more python
development work!)

Thanks!
Monty
well I did vote as we use python+mysql; I dispute the value of "kicking
our butts" though. When I voted python was running at 39.8% about equal
to java+php (41.4%).
--
Robin Becker
Oct 20 '07 #10

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Bjoern Schliessmann schrieb:
Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>It's an Internet poll. By definition, the results are meaningless.

Regrettably, there are many people that don't share your definition.

Also, why would there be telephone votings in TV if they were
meaningless to the default watcher? :)
Because it costs 50cent to call, which makes a useless and most of the
time heavily biased poll a nice source of income. Or why do you think
even the larger TV-stations show call-in-TV-shows at night?

Diez
Oct 20 '07 #11

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Diez B. Roggisch wrote:
Bjoern Schliessmann schrieb:
>Also, why would there be telephone votings in TV if they were
meaningless to the default watcher? :)

Because it costs 50cent to call, which makes a useless and most of
the time heavily biased poll a nice source of income. Or why do
you think even the larger TV-stations show call-in-TV-shows at
night?
You're partially right. But those are mostly no polls but lotteries
(often with tricky or ridiculously simple questions). Simple polls
are quite rare, comparatively.

Regards,
Björn

--
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appears to be a Slow/Narrow SCSI-0 Interface problem

Oct 20 '07 #12

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