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# Lists and passing by reference

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I did
>>> a = [5, 7, "7"]
>>> b = [a, 5, 6]
>>> b[0].append(8)
>>> a
[5, 7, '7', 8]

So it seems b[0] and a actually the same object. Does that mean that Python uses pass by reference?
Jun 14 '07 #1
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bartonc
6,596 Expert 4TB
I did
>>> a = [5, 7, "7"]
>>> b = [a, 5, 6]
>>> b[0].append(8)
>>> a
[5, 7, '7', 8]

So it seems b[0] and a actually the same object. Does that mean that Python uses pass by reference?
Yes. Mutable objects, such as lists, are passed by reference.
Not ints and other immutable objects.

It's very cool to see that you are picking this up so quickly!
Jun 14 '07 #2
bartonc
6,596 Expert 4TB
list comprehension? What would it contain?
I mostly threw that in to mess with you. It's a pretty advanced topic, but basically python's syntax allows to to create lists (or virtual lists, called generators) with a for loop all on one line:
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1. >>> integerList = [i for i in range(10)]
2. >>> integerList
3. [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
4. >>> oddIntegerList = [i for i in range(10) if (i%2)]
5. >>> oddIntegerList
6. [1, 3, 5, 7, 9]
7. >>>
are examples of the power of comprehensions.
We'll get into generators another day.
Jun 14 '07 #3
r035198x
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Ok, I went ahead and did

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1. >>> r ="test"
2. >>> def changeString(string):
3.     """ Test"""
4.     string = "56"
5.
6. >>> print r
7. test
8. >>> changeString(r)
9. >>> print r
10. test
11. >>>
So call by value
Then I did

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1. >>> def changeList(list1) :
2.     """list"""
3.     list1.append("appended")
4.
5.
6. >>> b = [3]
7. >>> b
8. [3]
9. >>> changeList(b)
10. >>> b
11. [3, 'appended']
So does Python do call by value reference?
Jun 14 '07 #4
r035198x
13,262 8TB
I mostly threw that in to mess with you. It's a pretty advanced topic, but basically python's syntax allows to to create lists (or virtual lists, called generators) with a for loop all on one line:
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1. >>> integerList = [i for i in range(10)]
2. >>> integerList
3. [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
4. >>> oddIntegerList = [i for i in range(10) if (i%2)]
5. >>> oddIntegerList
6. [1, 3, 5, 7, 9]
7. >>>
are examples of the power of comprehensions.
We'll get into generators another day.
Oh I can do that. See your number 1 is even longer than mine which is
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1. >>> x = range(10)
2. >>> x
3. [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
4.
But I expect there's much more to lists than just playing around with ranges and slices.
Jun 14 '07 #5
ghostdog74
511 Expert 256MB
I did
>>> a = [5, 7, "7"]
>>> b = [a, 5, 6]
>>> b[0].append(8)
>>> a
[5, 7, '7', 8]

So it seems b[0] and a actually the same object. Does that mean that Python uses pass by reference?
you need to do a shallow copy
eg
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1. >>> a = [1,2]
2. >>> b=a[:]
3. >>> b[0]=3
4. >>> b
5. [3, 2]
6. >>> a
7. [1, 2]
8. >>> id(a)
9. -1215364148
10. >>> id(b)
11. -1215363892
12.
if not, they are the same
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1. >>> a
2. [1, 2]
3. >>> b=a
4. >>> b
5. [1, 2]
6. >>> id(b)
7. -1215364148
8. >>> id(a)
9. -1215364148
10.
Jun 14 '07 #6
r035198x
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you need to do a shallow copy
eg
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1. >>> a = [1,2]
2. >>> b=a[:]
3. >>> b[0]=3
4. >>> b
5. [3, 2]
6. >>> a
7. [1, 2]
8. >>> id(a)
9. -1215364148
10. >>> id(b)
11. -1215363892
12.
if not, they are the same
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1. >>> a
2. [1, 2]
3. >>> b=a
4. >>> b
5. [1, 2]
6. >>> id(b)
7. -1215364148
8. >>> id(a)
9. -1215364148
10.
I guess the parameter passing methods are no different from those in Java then. How would you shallow copy a general object not neccessarily a list?
Jun 14 '07 #7
bvdet
2,851 Expert Mod 2GB
I guess the parameter passing methods are no different from those in Java then. How would you shallow copy a general object not neccessarily a list?
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1. import copy
2.
3. x = copy.copy(y)        # make a shallow copy of y
4. x = copy.deepcopy(y)    # make a deep copy of y
Jun 14 '07 #8
r035198x
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1. import copy
2.
3. x = copy.copy(y)        # make a shallow copy of y
4. x = copy.deepcopy(y)    # make a deep copy of y
Great. I'm in danger of beginning to like Python.
Jun 14 '07 #9
Motoma
3,237 Expert 2GB
Great. I'm in danger of beginning to like Python.
You love it! You can't get enough of it!
Jun 14 '07 #10