url question - extracting (2 types of) domains

[lazy]

Hi,
Im trying to extract the domain name from an url. lets say I call
it full_domain and significant_domain(which is the homepage domain)

Eg: url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod ,
full_domain=en.wikipedia.org ,significant_domain=wikipedia.org

Using urlsplit (of urlparse module), I will be able to get the
full_domain, but Im wondering how to get significant_domain. I will
not be able to use like counting the number of dots. etc

Some domains maybe like foo.bar.co.in (where significant_domain=
bar.co.in)
I have around 40M url list. Its ok, if I fallout in few(< 1%) cases.
Although I agree that measuring this error rate itself is not clear,
maybe just based on ituition.

Anybody have clues about existing url parsers in python to do this.
Searching online couldnt help me much other than
the urlparse/urllib module.

Worst case is to try to build a table of domain
categories(like .com, .co.il etc and look for it in the suffix rather
than counting dots and just extract the part till the preceding dot),
but Im afraid if I do this, I might miss some domain category.

[Gabriel Genellina]

En Tue, 15 May 2007 23:04:02 -0300, lazy <ar******@gmail.comescribió:

Im trying to extract the domain name from an url. lets say I call
it full_domain and significant_domain(which is the homepage domain)
Eg: url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod ,
full_domain=en.wikipedia.org ,significant_domain=wikipedia.org

You'll have to find a better definition of "significant_domain".
A vaguely related concept would be SOA - Start of Authority. You could
issue DNS queries for a SOA record, removing the heading parts until you
get a matching answer. See http://www.dnspython.org/

--
Gabriel Genellina

[Michael Bentley]

On May 15, 2007, at 9:04 PM, lazy wrote:

Hi,
Im trying to extract the domain name from an url. lets say I call
it full_domain and significant_domain(which is the homepage domain)

Eg: url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod ,
full_domain=en.wikipedia.org ,significant_domain=wikipedia.org

Using urlsplit (of urlparse module), I will be able to get the
full_domain, but Im wondering how to get significant_domain. I will
not be able to use like counting the number of dots. etc

Some domains maybe like foo.bar.co.in (where significant_domain=
bar.co.in)
I have around 40M url list. Its ok, if I fallout in few(< 1%) cases.
Although I agree that measuring this error rate itself is not clear,
maybe just based on ituition.

Anybody have clues about existing url parsers in python to do this.
Searching online couldnt help me much other than
the urlparse/urllib module.

Worst case is to try to build a table of domain
categories(like .com, .co.il etc and look for it in the suffix rather
than counting dots and just extract the part till the preceding dot),
but Im afraid if I do this, I might miss some domain category.

The best way I know to get an *authoritive* answer is to start with
the full_domain and try a whois lookup. If it returns no records,
drop everything before the first dot and try again. Repeat until you
get a good answer -- this is the significant_domain.

hth,
Michael

[lazy]

Thanks.
Hmm, the url list is quite huge(40M). I think it will take a lot of
time,for a whois lookup I guess. But yeah,
thats seems to be a good way. Probably I will try it with a smaller
set (10K) and see the time it takes.
If not, I guess I will just build a table of known
domains(.com,.org,.co.il etc ) and then I can find the
root domain(significant_domain) atleast for those and I hope majority
of them fall into this :)
On May 16, 12:32 am, Michael Bentley <[e-mail]>
wrote:

On May 15, 2007, at 9:04 PM, lazy wrote:

Hi,
Im trying to extract the domain name from an url. lets say I call
it full_domain and significant_domain(which is the homepage domain)

Eg: url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod,
full_domain=en.wikipedia.org ,significant_domain=wikipedia.org

Using urlsplit (of urlparse module), I will be able to get the
full_domain, but Im wondering how to get significant_domain. I will
not be able to use like counting the number of dots. etc

Some domains maybe like foo.bar.co.in (where significant_domain=
bar.co.in)
I have around 40M url list. Its ok, if I fallout in few(< 1%) cases.
Although I agree that measuring this error rate itself is not clear,
maybe just based on ituition.

Anybody have clues about existing url parsers in python to do this.
Searching online couldnt help me much other than
the urlparse/urllib module.

Worst case is to try to build a table of domain
categories(like .com, .co.il etc and look for it in the suffix rather
than counting dots and just extract the part till the preceding dot),
but Im afraid if I do this, I might miss some domain category.

The best way I know to get an *authoritive* answer is to start with
the full_domain and try a whois lookup. If it returns no records,
drop everything before the first dot and try again. Repeat until you
get a good answer -- this is the significant_domain.

hth,
Michael