PyPy for dummies

[Damjan]

... like me.

Ok, this is what I understood why PyPy is important.

Writing programing languages and implementations (compilers, interpreters,
JITs, etc) is hard. Not many people can do it from scratch and create
something comparable to what's available today. But we need people with new
aproaches, exploring new ideas (to boldly go where no hacker has gone
before).

Also, evolving the current Python language and implementation is not easy
either. As it becomes more complex, it's hard for newcomers to comprehend
it as a whole, and as it is still harder and harder to work on details
without understanding the whole.
What PyPy provides is, making this easier, thus allowing for:
*rapid turnaround* of language features and implementation details - this
enables easier experimentation and testing of wild ideas. Most of them will
fail of course, but some will succed and some will succed and suprise
(NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!).

So that's how I see PyPy ... at the same time an interesting - let's call
it - academic experiment, but also something very close to beeing usefull
at the level of the current CPython.

--
damjan

[Paddy]

On Mar 30, 1:10 am, Damjan <[e-mail]:

.. like me.

Ok, this is what I understood why PyPy is important.

Writing programing languages and implementations (compilers, interpreters,
JITs, etc) is hard. Not many people can do it from scratch and create
something comparable to what's available today. But we need people with new
aproaches, exploring new ideas (to boldly go where no hacker has gone
before).

Also, evolving the current Python language and implementation is not easy
either. As it becomes more complex, it's hard for newcomers to comprehend
it as a whole, and as it is still harder and harder to work on details
without understanding the whole.

What PyPy provides is, making this easier, thus allowing for:
*rapid turnaround* of language features and implementation details - this
enables easier experimentation and testing of wild ideas. Most of them will
fail of course, but some will succed and some will succed and suprise
(NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!).

So that's how I see PyPy ... at the same time an interesting - let's call
it - academic experiment, but also something very close to beeing usefull
at the level of the current CPython.

--
damjan

It is also European funding for an open source project with sprints.
I'm sure some eurocrat will be dissecting the project to see if it is
aa good way to fund technical projects.

- Paddy.

[Cameron Laird]

In article <11*********************@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>,
Paddy <pa*******@googlemail.comwrote:

[Georg Brandl]

Cameron Laird schrieb:

In article <11*********************@n76g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>,
Paddy <pa*******@googlemail.comwrote:
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>>It is also European funding for an open source project with sprints.
I'm sure some eurocrat will be dissecting the project to see if it is
aa good way to fund technical projects.

- Paddy.

PyPy-ers, what *are* the prospects in this direction?
Are there write-ups planned that'll be of interest to
computing people?

There is already a whole bunch of reports for the EU at

http://codespeak.net/pypy/extradoc/eu-report/

HTH,
Georg