SQLALCHEMY - Method to have the last word, by Michael Bayer

[Ilias Lazaridis]

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Ï/Ç metaperl:

>>TurboEntity was quite sweet. Supposedly a complete rewrite as a new
product is on its way though.

Ilias Lazaridis:

>>the first major problem of this rewrite:
it happens 'silently' (non-public)

Michael Bayer wrote within:
http://groups.google.com/group/sqlal...7a096a61abfc6f

>django was not available to the public until it was fully functional
(youd go to the site and just get a "coming soon"-style splash
page)..and even then it was already in production use in earlier forms.
they knew that if you release something that wasnt polished and would
lead to user frustration, people would get disinterested and leave.
the strategy seems to have worked for them.

I understand your elaborations.

Possibly "sqlalchemy" should do the same, until it's fully functional
and do not 'frustrate users'.

And "Turbogears", too. And Django, as it's still not fully functional
(mainly due to it's deficient ORM layer).

Or all those projects remain open(!), allowing users and contributors
to review the source(!), in order to be able to contribute
requirements, ideas, patches, sources etc.!

>its not your grandfather's open source community !

Please keep relatives out of discussions.

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Continueing a thread from "sqlalchemy group) within comp.lang.python
(closest public usenet group), because "Michael Bayer" has closed the
thread within google.groups (no reply possible to anyone) prior to
enabling my answer to his message.

http://groups.google.com/group/sqlal...1b3b14d8108ac0

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[Diez B. Roggisch]

I understand your elaborations.

>
Possibly "sqlalchemy" should do the same, until it's fully functional
and do not 'frustrate users'.

And "Turbogears", too. And Django, as it's still not fully functional
(mainly due to it's deficient ORM layer).

Or all those projects remain open(!), allowing users and contributors
to review the source(!), in order to be able to contribute
requirements, ideas, patches, sources etc.!

Except from outrageous demands and feeble default-parameter-alterations I've
yet to encounter anything that is an actual contribution to the half dozen
Python FOSS projects I've observed you "evaluating". How about stop
whining, and start contributing real code? Better yet, start your fabled
ORM layer and see who's willing to join.

>>its not your grandfather's open source community !

Please keep relatives out of discussions.

Please keep discussions that for a good reason have been closed due to your
inability to communicate with fellow human beings where they belong: in the
dark abyss the news and mailing list archives of google are. And stop
hurling them over to c.l.py like a small child complaining that the others
won't play with it anymore, just because it smeared it's poo over their
toys.

You keep too much brain- and virtual-space occupied, space that otherwise
could be used to produce useful stuff.

So - stop it, go away, and please, pretty please with sugar on top: don't
come back. Python doesn't need you, this NG doesn't need you, no FOSS
project needs you. Buy a dog. That needs you. Until it runs away from
being "evaluated".

Diez

[Ilias Lazaridis]

Ο/Η Diez B. Roggisch Î*γÏ�αψε:
.... (several off-topics)

Please control yourself.

�/Ç metaperl:

>>TurboEntity was quite sweet. Supposedly a complete rewrite as a new
product is on its way though.

Ilias Lazaridis:

>>the first major problem of this rewrite:
it happens 'silently' (non-public)

3 projects (TurboEntity, ActiveMapper, and one unpublished) join, in
order to provide an better ORM layer for Python.

How is the project moving on?

How can one contribute?

I don't know - does anyone have more information?

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[Fredrik Lundh]

Ilias Lazaridis wrote:

How can one contribute?

you can't.

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[Hendrik van Rooyen]

"Diez B. Roggisch" <de***@nospam.web.dewrote:

So - stop it, go away, and please, pretty please with sugar on top: don't
come back. Python doesn't need you, this NG doesn't need you, no FOSS
project needs you. Buy a dog. That needs you. Until it runs away from
being "evaluated".

This proves it.

Wearing skull socks makes you mean.

- Hendrik

[Diez B. Roggisch]

Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:

"Diez B. Roggisch" <de***@nospam.web.dewrote:

>So - stop it, go away, and please, pretty please with sugar on top: don't
come back. Python doesn't need you, this NG doesn't need you, no FOSS
project needs you. Buy a dog. That needs you. Until it runs away from
being "evaluated".

This proves it.

Wearing skull socks makes you mean.

Ahh, I guess you're right - that twitching in my feet.... I should get rid
of them, wear cherubim socks instead and take a more relaxed stance towards
Ilias and his kind.

If only I manage to really do this until "they" convince me to keep them,
wearing them even in my sleep...

Diez

[Hendrik van Rooyen]

"Diez B. Roggisch" <de***@nospam.web.dewrote:

Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:

Wearing skull socks makes you mean.

Ahh, I guess you're right - that twitching in my feet.... I should get rid
of them, wear cherubim socks instead and take a more relaxed stance towards
Ilias and his kind.

If only I manage to really do this until "they" convince me to keep them,
wearing them even in my sleep...

Is there some of way of suppressing the deadly information
in this thread before the Spanish Inquisition sees it ?

- Hendrik